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    Junq Male 18-29
    81 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 7:23 am
    Link: Louisiana Is Now The World`s Prison Capital - `Money is always the motive.`
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 21, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Yes, we imprisson too many people, but the "Rehabilitation" idea of prisons has failed. They`ve been trying for 200 years without success. Why don`t we just face up to and stop wasting money.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:21 am
    We don`t need inmate rehab to prevent crimes, we need to start public hangings again. Kill someone? Hang in public after standing there for the entire morning and letting people throw rocks at you. Kill someone and go to jail? Go hang out in the library, have your sheets and clothing sent to be washed by someone else, go work out and improve yourself, go work and make a little spending money, have a phone call chat with your buddies on the outside. Then they get released and you actually have to wonder why they kill again?? To get back in the gd hotel room they just left! It`s that or go back to their empty trailer in the park! But you all keep on pushing to make jail even more comfortable for the criminals~
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33124 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Bisaed article is biased.

    @Gerry1 is correct, the concept of "rehabilitation" is a fairytale. The ONLY person who can change a prisoner`s attitude is that person him/her self.

    So moving prisoners to avoid `overcrowding` is BAD? You`d rather they were released early? yeah that`s a great idea!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Yes, we imprisson too many people, but the "Rehabilitation" idea of prisons has failed.

    The Scandinavian countries seem to make the concept of "rehabilitation" work just fine. Of course, there`s no monetary profit in it, so the private companies that run US prisons would never go for it. And the US politicians that like to appear tough on crime would like it even less.

    We don`t need inmate rehab to prevent crimes, we need to start public hangings again. Kill someone? Hang in public after standing there for the entire morning and letting people throw rocks at you.

    For all you Americans claim to hate Iran`s despotic, repressive regime, it sounds like some of you at least would love it. Course you`d need to put those tits away if you were going to live there; you can`t have public lynchings to satisfy your immature revenge fantasies *and* feminism - you only get to live one dream at a time.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    7066 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:49 am
    Gerry,

    Do you seriously believe that prisons have been
    trying rehabilitation for more than 200 years? I`d be fascinated to hear about Louisiana`s rehabilitation programs from the 1830`s.
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    frenchroast Male 30-39
    446 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:52 am
    Businesses exist to make money. For profit prisons and war contractors make money the only way they can. The incentives should be for the for overall good of society, not the business owners. The states is in downward spiral till they make major changes to their policies. Getting rid of hard time for drug possession would be a good start.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:53 am
    leesah

    first off it is disturbing that you actually want public killings...I suspect you have never actually watched someone die a violent death.

    secondly, study after study has proven the death penalty is NOT a deterrent not matter the method of execution.



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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:54 am
    a) We wouldn`t have so many people in prison if we didn`t have senseless drug laws and three strikes penalties.

    b) States without capital punishment consistently have lower murder rates than states with capital punishment. The Death Penalty is not a deterrent. Link
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 9:59 am
    "For all you Americans claim to hate Iran`s despotic, repressive regime, it sounds like some of you at least would love it."

    Yes, compare the treatment of jury condemned criminals to total deprivation of basic human rights. Obvious Democrat diversion tactic incoming!!

    PS: Feminism is as outdated and useless as unions now are. They both do nothing but the exact opposite their original founders intended them to.
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    8jdb28jdb2 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:00 am
    well, I had no idea that the states had become this corrupt. For profit prisoners supported by draconian and oppressive laws? Just plain disgusting.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:05 am
    "I suspect you have never actually watched someone die a violent death."

    BZZZZTTTT!! I`ve seen two friends and one family member shot in the head/face by two different groups of black men. :] Luckily, one of them managed to live, although she no longer has an eye.

    Your studies fail to address the population difference in states with vs w/o the death penalty.

    States With:
    California
    Texas
    Arizona

    States Without:
    Alaska
    Hawaii
    Iowa

    Gee, I wonder why there are less capital punishment crimes in Alaska than in California... then you look at Illinois, a state without the death penalty, what`s our crime rate? Didn`t we JUST go our first full 24 hours without a murder reported? A one day winning streak, if I recall.
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    frenchroast Male 30-39
    446 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Hey you crafty kids! BTW this could be a great online game, "Prisoner Tycoon". Nose to the digital grindstone.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:20 am
    >>>Yes, compare the treatment of jury condemned criminals to total deprivation of basic human rights.<<<


    OK. The jury system: It`s not like judges with biases ever let clearly-guilty police officers off in the American courts, or judges ever intimidate jurors as in the Laura Kriho case (where a Juror was initially convicted of Contempt of Court daring to come to a `free` verdict that the judge disagreed with, before her conviction was quashed on appeal). And it`s not like lowly citizens can be locked on a mere judge`s say-so for *14 years* in a *civil* divorce case, without a jury ever even being consulted or anything.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:20 am
    No, your system is *so* much fairer than Iran`s. Or at least it is designed to give the appearance of fairness, whilst actually regularly circumventing juries to deliver startlingly-unfair verdicts.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:20 am
    Course you`d need to put those tits away if you were going to live there

    Now now now who ever said anything about covering up glorious boobies!! Embrace the boobies MacGuffin EMBRACE THEM!!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Embrace the boobies MacGuffin EMBRACE THEM!!


    No thanks. And I honestly don`t mind a real set well presented on a woman with brains in her head and kindness in her soul.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:32 am
    "No, your system is *so* much fairer than Iran`s."

    Apples to oranges, yes, we`ve got a few corrupt people in a sea of those trying to be fair, but they`ve got a few scared activists in a sea of corruption vastly greater than what we face here. It`s not even slightly comparable so you might as well give up trying.
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    Shufdog Male 30-39
    137 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:37 am
    "I honestly don`t mind a real set well presented on a woman with brains in her head and kindness in her soul."

    HA!!! There is no shuch thing!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:40 am
    Apples to oranges, yes, we`ve got a few corrupt people in a sea of those trying to be fair, but they`ve got a few scared activists in a sea of corruption vastly greater than what we face here. It`s not even slightly comparable so you might as well give up trying.No, you`re right, they`re not comparable. Iran doesn`t start nearly as many wars as you do, and their politicians and intelligence services at least don`t have the brass neck to attempt to publicly justify their crimes against humanity such as the torture that is waterboarding on the grounds of "necessity".

    It never fails to amaze me the total disconnect that exists between Americans like you (whom I`d like to think are in the minority, but honestly, I don`t know), the way you see your own political and judicial systems, and the way everyone else around the world sees you.

    We see hypocrites on a massive scale. For some bizarre reason, you see freedom, bravery, democracy and tolerance
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Oh god, now the bleeding heart liberal is starting up with the torture arguments again. Please, I simply can not allow you to further embarrass yourself by letting this go where it`s going.
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    tatervent Male 18-29
    373 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 11:05 am
    lol MacGuffin thinks she knows what she is talking about... its cute.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    7066 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 11:08 am
    `Yes, compare the treatment of jury condemned criminals to total deprivation of basic human rights.`

    Yeah, but that was you advocating public torture, wasn`t it? So I`m assuming that when you use the term `human rights` you follow it up by spitting out of the side of your mouth.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 11:15 am
    @leesah: Run out of logical arguments and ability to argue for your position, I see? You do surprise me. :)
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 11:26 am
    The reason why Illinois has so many lifers w/o parole is because several years ago one of our governors commuted all the death row inmates to life w/o parole. People were really upset about that.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    That was Governor Ryan, a Republican, who did it because he was concerned about innocent people being put to death.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    @MacGuffin: You`re back! Where were you? Inquiring squirrels want to know.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Somones jealous of booooobies!! :-p
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    Local prisons? Oh you mean county jail! Every country in every state has them....

    Here`s a tip: Don`t do bad poo in Louisiana. If you wanna commit crime, go to California.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    @MacGuffin: You`re back! Where were you? Inquiring squirrels want to know.

    Oh, you know, just trying to pretend I have a life outside the internet and all that. :)
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    mzacur Male 18-29
    112 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    As someone who works in the prison healthcare system: dont go to jail. thats extra work for me...jerks.
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    VirtualParty Male 18-29
    787 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    Possibly life in prison for only drug crimes..
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    Quackor Male 18-29
    2856 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    awww poor excons, they are forced to commit crimes because no one rehabilitated them *tear*
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    @MacGuffin: Well, welcome back! =^.^=
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    May 21, 2012 at 10:13 pm
    "awww poor excons, they are forced to commit crimes because no one rehabilitated them *tear*"

    When you get out of your 12 year sentence for writing bad checks I`ll remind of this quote when you`re being denied welfare.
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    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
    294 posts
    May 22, 2012 at 12:14 am
    We may be falling behind elsewhere, but we`re damn good at locking peeps up. We have, what, 25% of the world`s prison pop. and only 10% of the world`s pop.?

    Between our wonderful war on drugs(I`ve never been more sarcastic in my life) and the fact that everything is becoming designed to put money in the right pockets, no wonder.

    Plus there are those like quackor; he doesn`t get why some ppl do what they do and doesn`t want to since that would mean showing compassion and not nursing his ego by telling himself he`s better than everyone else.

    I hear a lot about what`s wrong with the world; Imo what`s wrong is we don`t accept, or even tolerate, others nearly enough. I thoroughly believe most of our issues would fix themselves if we ignored who`s right or better or our enemy and accepted we`re all just humans and aren`t that different. It`s far easier for little problems to grow big when we`re busy fighting rather than watching each other`s backs.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 22, 2012 at 6:37 am
    @MacGuffin: Well, welcome back! =^.^=

    Thanks. :)
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    May 22, 2012 at 7:50 am
    >We have, what, 25% of the world`s prison pop. and only 10% of the world`s pop.?<

    You actually only have 5% of the world`s population. Not only that, but whilst you`ve got a 1-in-106 chance of being in prison if you`re a white male, that rises to a staggering 1-in-15 for black males. Info here. Considering that only 1-in-44 Presidents have been black males (with the rest *all* being white males) that ought to tell the American people something about the way their government is deceiving them. It`s mind-blowing that there are American citizens serving life sentences for non-violent drug offences, when there are US soldiers and police officers serving as little as 1-to-10 years for crimes such as torturing civilians to death, murder of American citizens on American soil, and the rape and murder of an Iraqi schoolgirl. And none of them are black.
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    Palfas Male 30-39
    411 posts
    May 22, 2012 at 7:59 am
    If the Sheriff is going to make money from prisoners, and he`s also going to create prisoners, you bet there`s going to be a problem.

    Welcome to the free market utopia.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    May 22, 2012 at 9:12 am
    We don`t need inmate rehab to prevent crimes, we need to start public hangings again.
    Typical right wing reactionary policy. How about being PROactive and addressing the issues that instigate most crimes, i.e. substance abuse, poverty, etc.? Naw, it`s just easier to hang`em.

    This is also another great example of all the benefits of things that are privatized that never should be.

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