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Date: 05/26/12 03:33 PM

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    May 26, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Link: Kind Of Deep And Sort Of True - Less business could mean less violence, right?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    May 26, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    Would some poor person please explain, exactly, what Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Larry Ellison and the Koch brothers have stolen from you.

    Did one of them steal your bike?
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    May 26, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    I`d amend this slightly to the following:

    When the rich rob the poor, it`s called "The Free Market"; when the poor fight back, it`s called "class warfare."
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
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    May 26, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    How do rich people steal from the poor exactly? Now, I kind of understand the argument when you`re talking about government bailouts and things, but that`s only happened a handful of times. For the most part, poor people willingly hand their money over to the rich. It`s really easy to stop doing, actually. Stop smoking so many cigarettes, stop drinking so much booze, and stop buying so much fast food. Go support your local farmer`s market, or, better yet, go grow your own food!
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    Megrendel, you just don`t know, man. You just don`t even know!
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    jerdboy Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    If one day I came up with a sweet idea for a game or a piece of software or a machine, and i became a billionaire, then that money is MINE. I earnt it. Its not stolen.

    This poster is generalising to the point of being offense. Personally I`m poor as hell but to say "The rich steal from the poor" is just rude. And when the poor steal from the rich, its called stealing. Violence is violent by definition, stealing is not.

    Damn hippies and their "messages" trying to make us "think".
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    Keyh Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    The only entity that has the ability to "steal" from the poor, is the government.

    So no, not deep, not true. Less business would result in more violence and theft, not less, because the less competition there is, the higher the prices, and the lower quality the goods.
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    lemonhatred Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    A few benefit from the work of many, and privilege begets privilege, as in rich parents will have rich children who are more likely to have high power/status/earning jobs.

    So no, as many of you have pointed out, you invent something and make a lot of money out of it then you have stolen from no-one. Then your children (who benefit from your wealth and status) are more able to get into high power jobs than children born to the less wealthy. These are the thieves and parasites that get into say a board of a company or somesuch and then be extremely unlikely to ever be removed or punished regardless of poor performance (look at how few got fired in the investment sector crisis proportional to how many lower paid workers did).
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    lemonhatred Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    Furthermore, the entire market capitalist system is a pretty bad method for rewarding success. The fact that investment banking (shifting money around until everyone is convinced you`ve created more) is one of the best paid jobs you can get whereas being a nurse (who cares for people) or a teacher (who helps raise or young) or a sewer cleaner (who ensures we aren`t all waist high in poo) are all poorly rewarded in comparison.
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    lemonhatred Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Furthermore, the entire market capitalist system is a pretty bad method for rewarding success. The fact that investment banking (shifting money around until everyone is convinced you`ve created more) is one of the best paid jobs you can get whereas being a nurse (who cares for people) or a teacher (who helps raise or young) or a sewer cleaner (who ensures we aren`t all waist high in poo) are all poorly rewarded in comparison.
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    lemonhatred Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    Furthermore, the entire market capitalist system is a pretty bad method for rewarding success. The fact that investment banking (shifting money around until everyone is convinced you`ve created more) is one of the best paid jobs you can get whereas being a nurse (who cares for people) or a teacher (who helps raise or young) or a sewer cleaner (who ensures we aren`t all waist high in poo) are all poorly rewarded in comparison.
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    lemonhatred Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    I`m so sorry, it just keeps posting
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
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    May 26, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    lemon, keep saying it. Still not true.
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    RAGEMONSTER Male 18-29
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    May 26, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    STFU lemon! You have no face! Also, everyone knows that poor people are stupid....
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    May 26, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    When the poor steal from the rich to give to the poor its called stealing.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6267 posts
    May 26, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    lemonhatred-"A few benefit from the work of many"

    Bill Gates benefitted from his ideas, and the work of the `many` (which he paid) and sold his product to the `many` (which they paid for).

    In creating his products and services, he directly created hundreds of thousands of jobsa and indirectly it probably numbers in the millions.

    Again, what did Bill Gates steal from the poor?

    If any of those `many` don`t feel like contributing to Gates, they can: a) refuse to work for him and b) refuse to buy his products.

    Don`t get me wrong, I don`t like Gates, but that does not negate the facts.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    May 26, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    Sort of true as in being not true at all, being just ignorant communist propaganda?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 26, 2012 at 9:26 pm
    ic.
    When a person starts a business, hires some `poor` people and pays them a fair, agreed upon wage, he`s STEALING FROM THEM!
    Of course!
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    May 26, 2012 at 10:40 pm
    "5Cats:When a person starts a business, hires some `poor` people and pays them a fair, agreed upon wage, he`s STEALING FROM THEM! Of course!"

    It`s kind of a long story but you need to look at how the economical system works and notice that money is only a tool to dictate who does what in our society. In a way the rich are stealing our lives and our freedoms on a daily basis.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    May 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    If we each put $20 in a box, And I sell you the box for $30, you make a $10 profit. Infinite money?
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    May 26, 2012 at 11:14 pm
    Kleptocracy hypocrisy.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    May 26, 2012 at 11:52 pm
    Groogle:
    So if I put out $20 PLUS pay you $30 and get back $40, I`M making money?! Seems to me you put in 20 and got back 30... hmmm...
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    May 27, 2012 at 4:02 am
    When the rich make could business decisions to increase their wealth they are called thieves. When the poor rob from the rich they are called hero`s.

    WTF is the point in robbing the poor anyway? Thats like going to the desert when you want a drink.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    May 27, 2012 at 4:03 am
    No idea how I managed to get the words "could" and "good" mixed up. I`m very hungover ... Irish on a Sunday.
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    mykunter Male 40-49
    2424 posts
    May 27, 2012 at 5:58 am
    Everybody steals from me. The poor rob me through taxes for public assistance programs. The rich rob through their inflated goods and services and profiting from my labor.

    I COULD start my own business, work for myself and not buy STUFF. But I would still have to pay taxes and I have absolutely no say in how that money is spent. That is the greater offense to me...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6267 posts
    May 27, 2012 at 7:11 am
    Groogle-"In a way the rich are stealing our lives and our freedoms on a daily basis."

    "BAAAA"

    mykunter-"profiting from my labor"

    If YOU`RE not profiting from your labor, you`re a pitiful worker.

    Of course the business owner(s) who employ you are profiting from your labor, otherwise you wouldn`t be worth employing.

    Please remember: The sole purpose of a business is to make a profit for the owner(s) and investor(s) (you know, the people who invested and risked their very own wealth, without who`s risk you`d not have a job) is to make money. In order to do so, you reach an agreed upon amount of wage to complete tasks for them.

    If you`re not happy with the amount you`re being paid, then you`re obviously not worth that much to them. (hint: if you`re 40 and your only job skill is flipping burgers, it`s not McDonald`s fault you can`t make a living wage).
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    7068 posts
    May 27, 2012 at 7:47 am
    `WTF is the point in robbing the poor anyway? Thats like going to the desert when you want a drink.`

    Numbers. If you get the system working right the rich can rob millions of poor people simultaneously with little effor and no risk. In fact, once you have set the system up it runs itself.

    And I am not talking about people who have started their own business using their own money, skill and hard graft. Good luck to them. But the people at the top of insurance companies, utility corporations etc did not do that.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    May 27, 2012 at 8:16 am
    There is truth to this.....
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    May 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    I think you`re confusing the word "deep" for the word "cliche". Or maybe just "boring".
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    OutWest Male 50-59
    546 posts
    May 27, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    Ah.... the Poor Poor
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    May 27, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    So true!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm
    When liberals call business robbery, it`s called fascism.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
    316 posts
    May 27, 2012 at 11:38 pm
    Dollars equal votes. Keep voting for rich peoples products and they remain rich. Simple enough?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2012 at 8:35 am
    When a person starts a business, hires some `poor` people and pays them a fair, agreed upon wage, he`s STEALING FROM THEM!
    This is a typical argument. "Just...start a business, and all your problems will be solved!" Ridiculous on the face of it. Most people don`t want to "start a business", they just want to work a job. No, the business owner is not *necessarily* stealing, but let me give you an example from my own life:

    I used to work at screening at an airport. Before 9/11 we were paid $6.85/hr (minimum wage at the time was $6.60/hr). The janitors started at $7.00/hr, which doesn`t exactly seem to suit the importance of my job vs. theirs. There was a private security company that got a tender to do the general security, and their employees started at $7.00/hr as well. After 9/11, our wage was upped to $11.00/hr, and many of the private security people were applying to work with us...
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    May 28, 2012 at 8:37 am
    ...in order to compete, the airport authority offered that private security company extra money on their contract, with the stipulation that the money go directly to the employees so that they would effectively make $9.50/hr. The security company TURNED DOWN FREE MONEY, because they didn`t want to give it to employees, they wanted to keep it for themselves. THAT business owner is robbing his employees of that "fair" wage you mentioned.
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    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
    294 posts
    May 28, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    Actually, I don`t know if I agree. Maybe rich, unscrupulous big business owners or the politicians who`s pockets their lining call it business, but if what they`re doing is really considered unfair by the majority of people who know about it usually said people refer to said `business` by far more appropriate titles.

    If what they`re saying is that business in and of itself means stealing from the poor, then that`s just plain silly.

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