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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:46 am
    Link: Jesus On Homosexuality According To The Bible - ...
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    LexiLeet Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:50 am
    ...

    Stupid.
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    lordfoobar Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:56 am
    Clearly drawn by someone who have absolutely no idea of what he/she is drawing about. Here would be a somewhat more appropriate sermon : http://goo.gl/a1Vf1
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:57 am
    This is bull-crap.

    http://www.seafox.com/homo.html
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:58 am

    To all the christians who face a gay rights vote in the future, take direction from the Bible...

    "What business is it of mine to judge those outside of the church"
    - 1 Cor. 5:12
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:59 am
    he looking in the erong book
    look at the old testament
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:59 am

    TruTenrMan - no it`s not crap. Yes the Bible addresses homosexuality, but Jesus never said a word about it. THAT`s the point the cartoon is making.
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    lordfoobar Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:03 am
    @Gerry1of1 : read John 3:34; Jesus may not have spoken this himself, but prophets did, and it is the same; Jesus did not say anything against this teaching, therefore it is in effect regardless who taught it.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:06 am
    Gerry1of1, it`s our business when homosexual couples are trying to force the government into making churches marry them when it is clearly against our religious teachings.

    Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, true. He also never said a lot about things in the Old Testament because he was a Jew, and already followed the Jewish laws and customs. It was understood at that point. He only came to establish a new covenant between God and his church.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:16 am

    TruTenrMan, "it`s our business when homosexual couples are trying to force the government into making churches marry them when it is clearly against our religious teachings"
    That is propaganda. No one is forcing churches to marry same sex couples. Many churches don`t do interfaith marriages even though a jewish/christian marriage is legal. And no one is requiring those churches to do so.

    When hiperbole is used, it usually means the group using it doesn`t have a case to argue so they go for an emotional response, rather than a thinking one.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:17 am
    I don`t think Jesus said anything about beastiality either... just sayin... or furries...

    Anyhow, back to trolling Christians eh?
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:19 am
    if you consider that Jesus and God are the same entity, then technically anything written in the old testament is also Jesus` words.

    and if you take that God wrote the bible, then Jesus said, "you shant lay with another man" (paraphrase)
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:21 am
    Gerry: "What business is it of mine to judge those outside of the church"
    - 1 Cor. 5:12


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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:22 am
    force the government into making churches marry them when it is clearly against our religious teachings.
    Whoa, whoa, whoa. I`ve never heard of that. Up here in Canada where gay marriage is legal it`s a church`s discretion whether they want to marry someone or not.
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    jerezo2000 Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:29 am
    New discovery documents that Jesus did address the issue of homosexuality after all:

    www.JesusOnHomosexuality.com
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:34 am

    lordfoobar, "Jesus may not have spoken this himself, but prophets did, and it is the same"
    No, it`s not. Those were men - falible. The point is that the topic is of such little importance that Jesus never mentioned it. He spoke about the importance of kindness and charity. And he spoke on hypocracy and fait. But the fact he ignored it implies the importance of it.

    It`s time christians realised the rules of your religion only apply to you, not to everyone. I am sure you would not want some muslim cleric telling your women what they can and cannot do. Well no one wants you up in their business either.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:35 am
    it`s a church`s discretion whether they want to marry someone or not.
    There are several litigations trying to force Canadian churches to do same-sex marriages.

    A Marriage Commissoner, liscenced by the Province, will be instantly fired for refusing a same-sex couple.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:43 am



    Yes, I image-searched "furry Jesus" so you don`t have to! Really, don`t do it.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:58 am
    There are several litigations trying to force Canadian churches to do same-sex marriages.
    I couldn`t find these cases you`re referring to, but remember that any idiot can sue someone, but the law is quite clear on the matter and if a gay couple is suing a church it likely will and should be thrown out.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:00 am
    A Marriage Commissoner, liscenced by the Province, will be instantly fired for refusing a same-sex couple.
    A marriage commissioner is hired by the government, not the church. That`s apples and oranges, buddy.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:03 am
    Yes, I image-searched "furry Jesus" so you don`t have to! Really, don`t do it.
    Why does it bring up a picture of gonorrhea?!
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    nosecret Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:07 am
    i wonder how many i-am-b ers have actually read the bible to actually argue any topic related to it.

    i already know some reactions to this post: the bible is bs, why would i waste my time?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:13 am

    @ nosecret - Studies show athiests are more familiar with the bible than christians.
    LINK
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:22 am
    I`m still trying to wrap my mind around why people care whether or not homosexuality is forbidden or ignored or encouraged by the bible in the context of public discourse. Religious argumentation has no bearing in the American court system. All such arguments have long been found to be unmeritorious. It is for this reason that arguments favoring Prop 8 in the courtroom have not included `because it says so in the bible.` The furthest the issue can go is impacting personal choices on behavior and how to guide moral lessons in the home.

    Arguments such as `but we`re a Christian nation!` hold sway on soapboxes and internet forums, but not in courtrooms.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:34 am
    @Altaru: I tried to warn you! lolz! yes a bunch of weird images showed up in my search too. Eww!

    @Patchy: Yes I know that, but I honestly think most Canadian political parties would have no problem forcing churches to do things.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:45 am
    @5cats: I`m not sure political parties would want to open that can of worms. Churches can be quite political and their supporters are vehement. I don`t think a church should be forced to marry a gay couple, that`s just meddlesome. But I also think that a government employee has to follow the rules, even if their views contradict the law or rules of the institution. I`m not too happy about what`s going on with the institution I work for, but I still have to do what they tell me to.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:45 am
    Why should it matter what a religion has to say on a subjuct UNLESS you are a member of that religion.

    Churches should not be forced to recognize any marriage, heck the Catholic church does not recognize divorce unless they annul it themselves and that is their right, but it is every citizens right to keep religious belief out of gov`t.

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:47 am

    evanbartlett - technically you are correct about religion and law. But the reality is the religious conservatives relable their faith as a some other platform. Example, they can`t teach the Bible`s creationism in public schools so they invented "Intelligent Design" which is the same damn thing.

    The only arguement they have agains gay marriage is faith-based so they have to label it `morality` and `tradition` but it`s still their religioius ideologies with a differant wrapper.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:57 am
    Silence is golden.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:17 am
    but...there ARE passages in the bible where homosexuality is condemned...

    PLEASE FFS IF YOU ARE GOING TO ARGUE SOMETHING KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING...
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:18 am
    Not going to get into this one.

    But lol@furry jeebus.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:31 am
    but...there ARE passages in the bible where homosexuality is condemned...
    Red herring. The point of contention is that Jesus HIMSELF didn`t say anything about it. That there are passages in the Bible condemning it are irrelevant unless they are the explicit words of Jesus.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:39 am

    but...there ARE passages in the bible where homosexuality is condemned...
    Yes, just before the passage that condems shell fish but after the one that condems mixing fibers in your garments. {Poly-Cotton blend? SINFUL!}

    Funny how the New Testament is for christians but
    the Old Testament is for the rest of us.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:49 am
    patchgrabber: Touche. I have been slain! It`s growing ever so dark...tell my ma...I love her...

    for the record if you are gay then suck on :| idgaf either way.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    there are squares missing
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    Yes I know that, but I honestly think most Canadian political parties would have no problem forcing churches to do things.

    ...and yet you say Canadian politics is boring?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    there ARE passages in the bible where homosexuality is condemned

    You have no idea how those passages have been deliberately misinterpreted and mistranslated.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm
    Soooo much to say on this topic. But it is a complete waist of time to convice anyone of faith that they may be wrong. They don`t need proof to believe what they believe. Keep fightin the good fight Gerry10f1...but like I said, the religous fools (organized religon, that is)have their mind made up, and for some reason they feel the need to make everyone follow and believe the same.
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    SapphireHart Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    This is funny. To clarify to Christians and non Christians alike I don`t know of Jesus ever condemning being gay. However one passage that, for lack of a better word "condemns" the acts of homosexuality (note that it doesn`t condemc being gay itself, just acting on it) is: Romans 1 v26-27 (or for the whole section 20-30). No it wasn`t Jesus who said it, but it`s in the bible. Now can we stop arguing about it?
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    SapphireHart Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Just to clarify I think the general consensus is that Paul (good friend and follower of Jesus wrote it as part of a letter).
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    This is true, but it also should be kept in mind that neither did he say anything for it either, so as not to give weight to one side or another.

    Jesus said "Love one another, as i have loved you", and a good example of him is in John 7:53-8:11
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    @SapphireHeart: Actually Paul came after the Ressurection, eh? He `met Jesus on the road` and turned from persicuting Christians to being one... except a lot of people at the time thought he was full of poo...

    John 13:21-28
    Read this! And tell me Jesus doesn`t SEEM a little bit gay in the Bible?
    There is much talk of "the disciple whom Jesus loved" but WHO was it? Anyone know?
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    "but it also should be kept in mind that neither did he say anything for it either, so as not to give weight to one side or another. "

    In the OT, eating shellfish was called an abomination. As far as I know, Jesus did not say anything about shellfish being an abomination or not, and yet Christian`s will say that shellfish rule was wiped out by Jesus. But when the same thing happens to being gay (condemned in OT, then not mentioned by Jesus at all) people still act like it`s wrong.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    @LillianDulci: I seem to recall that Jesus said all foods were OK now, but am too tired to look it up. It`s iirc.

    For Jews of that era, there were Laws (Don`t murder people!) and `rules` (don`t eat pork!). The arguement goes:

    "Jesus changed the rules, but you still have to follow God`s laws".
    SO: Animal sacrifice? A rule that Jesus amended.
    No gay sex? A Law we still have to obey.

    (not saying I believe this, it`s what some people believe! Not me!)
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm
    Forgive me for paraphrasing from the Gospel, I too have had a long day, but, as I recall, Jesus spoke to the issue of marriage in the manner of "A man shall leave his parents, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh". Man joins woman = marriage, and this union takes precedence over previous family allegiances. In regards to same-sex marriage, well, its like the cartoon, right ?? Nothing in the New Testament ascribed to Jesus...
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    There is much talk of "the disciple whom Jesus loved" but WHO was it? Anyone know?

    I`ll throw another cat amongst the pigeons and suggest Mary.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:00 pm
    The funny thing is, that Jesus had very definite things to say about divorce. According to Mark 10:11-12 Jesus said, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery." (Also Matthew 5:31-32.)

    Funny how Christians are willing to overlook the words of Jesus in that case though, eh?

    @LillianDulci: Regarding the shellfish and Jesus thing, in Mark 7:18-19 and Matthew 15:10-11 Jesus declares that food will not make you unclean.

    @5Cats: The one Jesus loved appears to be Lazarus. See John 11:3 and 11:36. (This gets even more homoerotic if you read the version of Lazarus` resurrection in the Secret Gospel of Mark, which may be the basis for John`s account.)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    Ah! Thanks @HiEv and @Angilion!
    You know, I`ve quarreled with both of you before, but I consider you to be nice guys! I`m glad the interwebs have made it possible for distant peoples to come together.
    Mushy = me!

    Back to the topic at hand:
    YES! I for one believe Jesus was married, probably to Mary but possibly to Martha, and John 11 is one of the reasons why.
    IF MARY (and Martha) were sitting shiva (performing the death rituals) for Lazarus, they`d be forbidden to leave the house, yet Martha goes out to greet Jesus?
    The ONLY person a woman sitting shiva can go out to greet is her father OR her husband.
    #2: There was a Nazarine Ritual (Jesus of Nazareth, remember?) whereby a person was "dead and buried" and a "holy man" would "ressurect him" after 3 days (apx).
    Really, I don`t make this stuff up!
    Many of Jesus`s "miracles" have common sense explainations.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
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    May 3, 2012 at 11:42 pm
    superstitious feelings, runnin` round in my head . . .
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    May 4, 2012 at 6:26 am
    @HiEv. The Catholics are fairly strict regarding divorce, if I`m not mistaken....
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    Being gay is an abomination in the bible so...
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    HiEv Male 40-49
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    June 1, 2012 at 1:26 am
    @lawndartsftw: My dad is Roman Catholic. And divorced. And remarried. To someone else who divorced her husband.

    So... yeah.

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