If Guns Kill People...[Pic]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in

Spoons kill people. Simple logic.
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Male 371
Guns are the best.
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Male 1,360
The less guns there are the better .
This comparaison is moronic like 5cats
and FascismYeah.
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Male 40
Why is it always europeans that try to get us to get rid of our guns? Keep walkin you socialist weirdos.
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Male 1,059
"Aw, three day waiting period?! But I`m angry now!"
--Homer Simpson
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Male 626
People who own guns legally should be proud that they`re held to a higher standard than someone who buys off the street. Maybe the standards in place right now aren`t perfect, but I`ve always thought it odd that so many gun owners don`t seem to want SOME policies in place that prove their legitimacy.

I don`t want to take good people`s guns away, I just want to know that you did your homework.
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Male 40,764
[quote]If guns weren`t allowed then at best he would have a knife.[/quote]
Not how it works @Canoas: The criminals all over the world continue to have guns regardless of how many laws are enacted.

The further the gov`t cracks down? The higher the price of black-market guns gets, the more incentive there is to smuggle or steal them.
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Male 427
@PhantomGhost
But the other guy would have a gun too. So he would shoot you first and then your family would have no one to protect them. Also, they could get killed by a stray bulled even if no one wanted to kill them. If guns weren`t allowed then at best he would have a knife. He can`t accidentally kill your children with a knife.
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Male 261
It is not a matter of needing guns to keep safe... it is a matter of if I may need the gun to keep safe.

Rather be safe than sorry. Anybody breaks into my home I would take it as them threatening my family; they will have their head(s) blown off. I will not put my families lives at danger by trying to be honorable and bowing to the person and fist fighting, sword fighting or whatever the hell you feel is a legitimate honorable fight to defend your family from a criminal.
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Male 3,908
The only thing that happens when you have strict gun laws is that it makes it harder or lengthens the waiting period for someone to LEGALLY obtain a gun. I live in NY and have a concealed carry permit, it`s a lot of paperwork, background checks, you have to have references, etc and it took a few months for it to be processed. Then, license in hand, I was able to purchase a handgun. You can`t even touch one in a gun store if you don`t have a license, you ask the clerk if you can take a look at one and the first thing they ask is "Can I see your permit?" Same goes for buying pistol ammo, gotta have the permit. However, if I wanted to get my hands on one right away it`s illegal to buy off the street but it`s actually pretty damn easy!
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Male 40,764
@Buiadh: How many cities in your country have ghettos? How many race-based gangs are there?
A LOT of gun violence and crime in Canada and the USA is gang-related. MOST gangs are race-based. Blacks, Latinos, Asians, Natives, you got plent of those in Scotland, right?
Now WHY those races gravitate towrds violent gangs is a completely different story! We`re dealing with one aspect of that, a side effect...
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Female 1,324
@trickroom

Chill out, geez. Some of us don`t spend all of our times looking at various websites with various pictures that may or not be the same. I`m noticing a disturbing amount of people who complain but are still here, hrmmm.
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Male 10,855
[quote]you`re making crappy points today[/quote]

Point out the flaws and lets talk.

[quote]Gun crime here is much lower than in the US, yet our societies are quite similar in many respects. (Sadly(!))[/quote]

Correlation does not imply causation.
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Male 6,737
@Cajun247 - I thought you were an intelligent guy - you`re making crappy points today!

Actually take a look at the stats if you don`t believe me. Gun crime here is much lower than in the US, yet our societies are quite similar in many respects. (Sadly(!))
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Male 40,764
@trickroom: Does Reddit generate ALL ORIGIONAL material? Or do THEY get their stuff from somewhere else too?
Think about it...

@Buiadh: I just said that MASSIVE spending on gun laws do ZERO to affect `gun crime` and you call it "spin"? I call it fact.

In Canada: gun use in crimes and murders remained largely unchanged before, during or after "gun registration" was in effect.
Spend those BILLIONS on, say, more cops? More prisons? And ALL CRIME would have been lowered!
Not spin: fact.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Your country has far more crime (and prisoners) than ANY other country in the world.[/quote]

The whopping majority of those are drug crimes, not violent ones. So your point is moot.
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Male 10,855
[quote]It is much much more difficult to get guns here and your average criminal, unless he`s some big shot, doesn`t have access to firearms.[/quote]

Well the Pacific Ocean separates USA and Afghanistan, yet somehow opium manages to go from latter to former.
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Male 5,413
No it isn`t don`t be a retard. - OK prove me wrong then.

Your saying I need a gun to burn your home or steal your car or burglarize a store? - Stay on topic

I mean there are a lot of crimes that do not involve weapons. - Like what you just mentioned? Give me some statistics "Lots and lots" - oh

But look at any society where everyone owns a gun. - Is looking

There is far less crime because you don`t want to take the risk of anyone who sees you shooting you before the police arrive and shoot you. - What!? Your country has far more crime (and prisoners) than ANY other country in the world. The hell are you on about!?

Get the picture? - Yes, you`re the retard. Some yank gun-tooting "retard". It`s a weapon for killing.
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Male 6,737
LOL@5Cats. Only you could spin that round.

Fair play on the spin. It`s bulpoo and I`m not going to argue further, but fair play.
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Male 40,764
@Draculya & @Buiadh: So we all agree, it is more CULTURAL than `guns` right? Because Switzerland has assault rifles in nearly every household, and a LOW gun death ratio, right? You saw that on your (un-linked) stats too, @Drac?

Canadian criminals were smuggling & stealing rifles long before the Registration, and continued unabaited by the "law"... Your Island may help slow it, but the crooks can still get guns, correct?
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Male 15,271
I looked at some stats. Ignoring the countries that America has recently invaded, the biggest shthole in the world is South Africa with 74.5 gun homicides per 100,000 population per year, (no surprises; you`re probably more likely to get shot to death than get run over unless guns are also involved), then comes everywhere that supplies drugs to the US and then the US itself (4.14 homicides, 10.27 total deaths).

North Asia is the safest place for gun crime. They look like a rounding error on US gun crime: Japan 0.02, South Korea 0.04, Hong Kong 0.12 (no stats for China, N Korea and Mongolia) because they are on the other side of the world from America and also don`t sell oil to them.
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Male 6,737
It`s easy as pie to get guns form the US to Canada, @5Cats. In the UK we`re an island. Your gun crime is not comparable to ours. It is much much more difficult to get guns here and your average criminal, unless he`s some big shot, doesn`t have access to firearms.

Even those crimes that are commited at gunpoint are uneventfull, a shop owner gets told to fill the bags, they do it. Shop owner lives and, providing they have CCTV which most do, the criminal gets caught. The problem is in America, criminals are on edge because they know so many people have firearms so will be more trigger happy because of it, everyones a potential danger to them.

The US has got itself into this mess, and they cannot go back on it now.

As a neutral, I pity you guys that need guns to "keep safe".
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Male 40,764
Rocco and his gang: Planning the hiest:

Rocco: Ok boys, here`s what we`re gonna do: we break into this family`s house, they go money in the safe! We torture the guy until he opens it!
Gang: Ya!
R: Then we rape his wife!
G: Ya! Ya!
R: Then we rape him!
G: Ya! Ya! Ya!
R: Then we rape his kids!
G: Ya! Ya! Ya! Ya!
R: Then we rape the dog! The Cat and the hamster!
G: YA!
R: Then, we MURDER all of them!
G: YAAAAAAA!
R: Ok boys, who`s got a shotgun?
G: -silence-
R: Rifle? Pistol?
Gang: But BOSS! Using a firearm to commit a crime is ILLEGAL! We could get in trouble!!!

Seriously.
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Male 10,855
[quote] "poverty causes crime" is a liberal fairytale...[/quote]

Your negation is too strong. If people have to steal to feed themselves they most likely will. Poverty is a factor.
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Male 40,764
@Selous: Poverty makes crime? Oh give me a break! Are you saying rich people NEVER commit crimes? Bernie Madoff?

Greed causes crime, period.
Followed by drugs & alcohol.
"poverty causes crime" is a liberal fairytale...

@Buiadh: Here in Canada, pistols have been restricted & registered since 1936. Long Rifles were registered by the Liberals a decade or so ago, that law was overturned last year! Hooray!
So for all the BILLIONS of dollars spent by Federal, Provinical and local police & governments, how many crimes were prevented?
ZERO.
BILLIONS spent and not one good thing to show for it.
The criminals STILL have all the guns they want, but the citizens are defenseless.
All the laws you can imagine do nothing to stop a determined criminal, get it?
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Male 6,737
@PhantomGh0st - Yeah that`s why gun crime is so horrifically high here in the liberal UK.

LOL!
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Male 1,197
guns make crime more deadly, they dont make crime, that is poverties job
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Male 261
Yeah America would be a lot better off without guns for you non-nice individuals outside the US who would love to see us have less protection.

Most gun crimes are not committed by people who buy guns legally. If they are bought legally they tend to be stolen by you liberal motherdraters.
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Male 5,872
Nearly everybody owns a spoon. It is easy to confuse a gun with a spoon. Look at the needless number of alleged gun-in-mouth suicides. Remove guns, suicide rate falls. (fatuous asinine comment not to be taken seriously)
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Male 928
"Guns are a weapon and giving it to everyone is what causes crime in the first place"

No it isn`t don`t be a retard. Your saying I need a gun to burn your home or steal your car or burglarize a store? I mean there are a lot of crimes that do not involve weapons. Lots and lots. But look at any society where everyone owns a gun. There is far less crime because you don`t want to take the risk of anyone who sees you shooting you before the police arrive and shoot you. Get the picture?
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Male 5,413
@Beternal
Because everyone is helpless in every other part of the world that doesn`t have guns. Guns are a weapon and giving it to everyone is what causes crime in the first place.
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Male 390
All the things you can do with a gun, so many purposes.

I am pretty sure guns were initially created for 3D modellers to have solid reference for modelling virtual guns.
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Male 1,442
TL;DR: F*** guns, they make killing too easy.
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Male 1,442
If we look at this homicide per person chart here...

We can see the top 6 are all places where guns are legal. Jamaica is the highest where guns are illegal at number 7... however they are close enough to places where they are legal, so it is not hard to smuggle.

Russia is the highest outside the gun filled American Continent that is on the list, at place number 24. Russia have legal guns, but not as wide a legal range as America.

The highest murder rate in Europe, where guns are not legal at all, is Estonia. That comes 28th (also the 2nd highest outside of the American Continent).

At place number 34 is the good old USA, the highest A class credit rating country.

And at 41 is Israel! The people you fear for violent tendencies! (I admit, goverment killing is not counted.)
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Male 2,586
Can of worms has already been opened. Fact is, all Americans have guns, if a law was passed to ban them, all the good people would hand them back, all the criminals would still keep them/ get them somehow. So the good people would suffer and become helpless
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Male 452
@paddy215

It sounds so simple in your mind doesn`t it?
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Male 1,678
OK, so its not guns who kill people, its the people who are allowed guns, therefore, these people shouldn`t be allowed guns.
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Male 1,178
rappers do, call the police woo woo woo!
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Female 2,927
meh, i prefer blades anyway.
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Male 462
All I know is under the 2nd Amendment to the constitution, we have the right to bear arms. Gotta distribute them somehow no?
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Male 15,271
America would be a lot better off without guns, but first you have to fix a lot of things, such as the wealth imbalance and crime culture. There`s a lot of things wrong about America and sadly their arrogance prevents them from looking objectively at the wider problems of their society. This means that America will become more and more violent, even as their civil liberties are quietly stripped by the government. In the past arrogance was balanced, if not justified, by economic dominance, but as the fundamentals that drive their economy are rapidly disappearing, I see the majority of them becoming both poor and ridden with violent crime before they reach a steady state like much of the Old World has become.
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Male 16
I would say that guns never go off on accident, they go off accidentally due to ignorance. If a loaded gun is just laying around, it will not accidentally discharge. Improper use and handling causes that. Hence the military now using the proper term "negligent discharge" instead of the old term "accidental discharge".
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Male 174
Yeah, I remember some kid playing with his daddy`s spoons and killing himself. And there are dozens of cases where people use spoons in a blind rage and kill innocents. Also, a spoon might go off by accident and hurt others...
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Male 15,832
[quote]Snopes on the Aussie Gun Ban/Crime Increase[/quote]
Snopes is run by a guy and his wife out of their house, and they`re both liberals. They cannot be trusted for accurate information on ANY issue with a political element. They ALWAYS come down on the side of the left.

For Bigfoot sightings or email hoaxes, they`re fine, but for political stuff, you`ll get nothing from them but liberal spin.
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Male 1,440
I was always taught, "Don`t point a gun at someone, unless you were going to shoot" (in self-defense of course).
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Male 626
I had a guy pull this gun on me once... Raging Bull Model 444

turns out he just wanted to show off his new toy, but he didn`t mention that before whipping it out and pointing it at me. I damn near squirted my organs out of my skin like a sea cucumber.
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Male 626
@viking I think they should go one better. In order to own a gun you should also have to know its history, as well as of its mechanics and proper maintenance.

I base this opinion on my experiences with bad gun owners. I worked in a convenience store for some years. I still get a little sick to my stomach thinking about all the guns that were in my store, and a couple that were pointed at me, by legal gun owners who didn`t mean me any harm because they didn`t know any better.
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Male 1,810
@botfly. Lolz !!
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Male 3,445
Male 40,764
@HolyGod: What you said is true, a SINGLE gunman can kill lots of people.
BUT there`s been plenty of multiple killings with knives, usually less than 10 victems though.
You get groups of people? You can kill a LOT of folks with a band of machette-armed men. Rwanda? Most of the 800,000+ were killed with knives.

[quote]I don`t blame 5Cats keyboard for the stuff he says!
@ 5Cats - BAZINGA![/quote]

OUCH! I can`t help it @Gerry1, it`s in my DNA! Genetic! I was born this way, eh? (lolz!)

@Piperfawn: The weak (and innocent!) need guns to protect themselves and their families. The MSM rarely covers the story of "single mom frightens knife-armed thug away" BUT it happens a LOT.
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Male 1,449
I think before you are allowed to own a gun, you should be required to go through a proper handling class. I love guns but I also know how to handle them, too many people don`t.
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Male 98

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Male 3,649
piperfawn: "Guns are a tool that allow also the coward and weak to kill"

If being a coward means that I, and my intelligence, lives, than I`d rather be a coward.

Alive and a coward > dead and brave
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Male 1,252
"Remember kids...Guns don`t kill people, I dooo" UHF.
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Male 626
Sadly, we`re screwed. The culture of guns in this country is way, way worse than the guns themselves.

You can`t change that by banning guns, and you can`t change the way people think with more laws. In fact you just make them more polarized on the issue. About all you can do is nothing, and then hope that everyone mellows the drat out in a couple generations.

That`s my opinion, anyway. But I`ve worked in convenience stores for a significant portion of my life, so I occasionally see guns used in the manner they`re not supposed to be used in polite society.
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Male 261
I think his sign was just to prove how ridiculous the other guys sign was to also put something ridiculous on a sign.

He used the same argument by using a tool that people can use.

A gun can be a tool used in crime. And a spoon can be used as a tool to eat and get fat (over eating)
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Male 616
Guns don`t kill people, well placed shots do.
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Male 628
A more accurate analogy would be `mcdonalds made me fat` or even `fast food made me fat`. Sure you can eat it and not get fat, but still a lot of people manage to eat themselves into a junk food ladened grave.
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Female 1,566
I never hop on this argument train because you all have the same exact gun control argument every single time. Down to the words. Over and over and over. Many times repeating in the same thread! Why.
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Male 39,948

piperfawn - I get what you`re saying, I`m saying it`s "pie in the sky" thinking. Outlawing guns has had no effect on crimes committed with guns.

Look up the gun history of Australia, when they banned guns Gun Crime shot through the roof.
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Male 5,167
Gerry "You could be a hunter who eats the deer he shot."
So the rifle is created for kill!!!!
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Male 658
Guns make killing people a hell of a lot easier.
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Male 261
Found this on a very reliable and honest website

Pencil Deaths
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Male 5,167
Well ok, keep your mind i keep mine. No reason to go further more.
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Male 261
I always thought the main purpose of a gun was to shoot not to kill. How many people have actually died to a gun on its own? Probably less than have died to pencils.
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Male 5,167
PhantomGh0st ohh wow what a great example of evolution!!!
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Male 261
It is true... saw it on World`s Dumbest Rednecks 4

They cut some limbs off a tree hanging over their house with their rifle.
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Male 5,167
Gerry1of1 what i`m tryng to say is that a gun have just one function and is designed for a specific purpose. A kitchen knife is created for cutting food, man can use it also for kill, but is not the reason for what the kitchen knife was created. Guns are created to offend and kill. I`m talking about specific functions of tools. Mans can kill also with naked hands or fap, is a choice given from the versatility of the tool. Honestly i can`t see so many function in a gun if not to kill or destroy. Ohh well i`ve just learned from PhantomGh0st that a gun can be useful also for gardening. C`mon people be honest with yourself.
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Male 261
Hey I am about to go to Toys R Us and Office Depot... anybody want some killing supplies while I am there?
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Male 39,948

piperfawn, [quote]"Do you want to clean your ear with a gun?" [/quote]
You could be a hobbyist who does target practice.
You could be a hunter who eats the deer he shot.

With your logic we`d have to ban all kitchen knives because someone was stabbed once. You cannot blame the tool because the user has no brain. For example, I don`t blame 5Cats keyboard for the stuff he says!

@ 5Cats - BAZINGA!
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Male 261
Yup I can even take a picture with a gun.
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Male 523
"is making reductio ad absurdum argument"
Not exactly right, but I got your point and most people here won`t know the difference anyways.
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Male 5,167


I cut down trees!!!
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Male 261
Sir If fill your office building with carbon monoxide you will die.
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Male 261
I can also scratch my back, my balls, my face. I can pick my nose. I can melt it down for the metals. I can spin it on my finger. I can practice shooting with it at a shooting range. I can shoot discs. I can drop it on the ground. I can pretend I am a thug. I can dance with it. I can put it in a holster. I can tuck it into my pants. I can put it in a drawer. I can put it in a suitcase. I cannot take it to the airport. I can conceal it if my state allows (and it does).
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Male 9,769
OK. I think this is a solid point. Correct me if you disagree.

Spoons are used by people to make THEMSELVES fat. Guns are used by people to kill OTHER people. I have no problem with guns used in suicide.

As far as the people saying everything kills or can be used to kill. Guns and bombs are really the only things capable of taking out a large number of people at once. Nobody is taking out a park full of people or an office building with a knife.
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Male 261
With my .45 I can cut down trees. Trim their limbs. I can fire blanks to start a race. I can never put ammo in it and use it for display. I can scare the poo out of people.

What is your point about the pencils? You can list a bunch of things the pencil may be used for right?
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Male 261
As a matter of fact yes.

They actually use a gun to flush your ear out.
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Male 261

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Male 5,167
Gerry1of1 with pencil i can misspell or not words,i can draw, i can clean my ears (ewww) or scratch my back. Pencil have multiple functions, how many multiple function have a weapon? Do you want to clean your ear with a gun?
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Male 261
Hey libs... can you keep your MSNBC, ABC, and CBS news running for the terrorists they love it.
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Male 39,948

Guns are designed to kill people as pencils are designed to misspell words.
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Male 261
It is amazing. I own many guns, and I have yet to kill anything with one. Just what the drat am I doing wrong?

Where is my logic. Just because one purpose of something is to kill, it automatically means I have to use it to kill. Where are my liberal friends when I need them to help me come up with great logic like that.
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Male 261
Yup designed to kill.

I do not think anything ever created was not designed to kill.
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Male 5,167
PhantomGh0st
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Male 261
It is true... brains are designed to think... which apparently it shows when a liberal begins to think they automatically resort to crime or suicide.
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Male 261
Stun gun.

Designed to kill? NO

Taser gun.

Designed to kill? NO

Water gun.

Designed to kill? No

Many guns are not designed to kill.

If you own a gun you do not have to go kill.
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Male 5,167
PhantomGh0st yes also your brain seem designed to kill...logic.
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Male 5,167
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Male 261
Damn even air

Too much O2 can kill you.
Too much Co2 can kill you.
Too much N2 can kill you.

EVERYTHING IS DESIGNED TO KILL!
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Female 8,043
Who said spoons aren`t a weapon?

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Male 10,440
[quote] Guns are not designed to kill people. [/quote]
Yes they are, you moron.
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Male 261
Yup. It is crazy, everything is designed to kill, even things made by nature.

Alcohol- Poisonous
Hand Sanitizer- Contains alcohol
Salt- Causes Heart attacks
Water- Kills people if too much is consumed.
Drinks- Same thing as water.
Bags- If placed over head they may suffocate you.

It is never ending, I just cannot get away from all of these weapons designed to kill.
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Male 5,167
Oh yes sorry guns are designed to hold papers sheets on the desk. Right?
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Male 1,377
It had to be done.

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Male 261
Guns are not designed to kill people. So your idiotic argument is invalid. Guns do not kill people.

I guess toothpaste was designed to kill people because it is poisonous and poison was designed to do harm.



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Male 261
I would be willing to bet that more crimes involving guns are committed by people who would consider themselves apart of the liberal party.
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Male 5,167
Guns are invented, created and developped just for a reason, to kill. So the idiot argument that say people kill people not guns is invalid. Guns are a tool that allow also the coward and weak to kill. So not only a gun kill but also give more possibility to kill for everyone also for people incapable to fight in a melee combat.
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Male 12,365
Neither extreme really makes sense (although the spoons guy presumably doesn`t mean it and is making a reductio ad absurdum argument).

But while it`s true that guns are tools and therefore don`t do anything themselves(*), they are tools designed solely for the purpose of killing efficiently. So they`re really very unlike spoons. Also, eating is very unlike shooting bullets. For that reason, I think that controls over guns should be more stringent than controls over spoons.



* I know that there are automated guns, but that`s a tool controlling a tool - the action still rests with a person.
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Male 1,810
People kill people. If you dont have a gun to do it, you can use a knife, a hammer, a piece of lumber, etc, or even your bare hands. A gun is just a tool.....
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Male 39,948

Never take a gun to a spoon fight.
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Male 2,694
Does the teacher blame the student for misspelled words? Or does she blame the student`s pencil?

People kill people. You take the most dangerous gun, load it and set it down you can watch it for 200 years and it won`t kill anybody.
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Male 4,242
almost no-one ever; has been killed by guns.
bullets on the orther hand
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Male 1,218
I see you`ve played knifey-spoony before.
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Female 1,743
If spoons were designed with the sole purpose of killing, his argument would be valid.

Guns are designed to harm flesh (whether human or animal). So the whole "guns don`t kill people, people kill people" argument was always a stupid one, imo.. not that I`m 100% against gun ownership.. I just hate that argument.
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Male 14,331
Ya criminals buy guns legaly to then break the laws with them.........
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Male 1,832
Yes, because gun sellers tell you to go out and commit crimes with your bitchin` new gun.
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Male 40,764
Lolz!
@kitteh9! Spoons don`t kill people, people WITH spoons kill people!

@uatme: A valid point, but I personally don`t want the government to decide either FOR me...
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Male 1,084
some people shouldn`t be allowed to have guns and some people shouldn`t be allowed to have spoons..
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Male 144
His point is taken, but his metaphor is a little off...
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Female 8,043
Link: If Guns Kill People...[Pic] [Rate Link] - Spoons kill people. Simple logic.
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