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    fancylad Male 30-39
    18502 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Link: How To Make Obama Budget Spending... - ...look small.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
    1803 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:27 am
    Eventually the US will go bankrupt. It can`t go on like this forever. China will offer to write off almost all of it, in exchange for Taiwan. The end.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Meh, flamewar post in order to increase some clicks
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2012 at 9:31 am
    I was generally surprised this wasn`t a 5cats sub. Another trick Obama could use is not putting war on the books, that`s never been done before...
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:33 am
    Fairly interesting. I`m sure there`s some BS in this too, though.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2012 at 9:34 am
    Let the flame wars commence..
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    eddy666 Male 30-39
    523 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:34 am
    "Meh, flamewar post in order to increase some clicks"

    That`s all this site is these days.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2105 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:45 am
    Yeah,Yeah,Yeah. 2 lies,2 wars. Trillion-TRILLIONS for war. You Bush folks say whatever you want-there are thousands of dead Americans because G.W.Bush lied his arse off. Let`s see you deny that.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
    1310 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:49 am
    You mean... a president and his cabinet tricked the American People? No way!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 9:55 am
    And Obama`s answer? SPEND MORE! lolz!

    Of course his lap-dogs at the MSM will never show things like this clearly and easy to understand, eh?
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 10:01 am
    Yay. More republican propaganda from fancylad.
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    Mikeoxsbiggg Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2012 at 10:02 am
    I could care less about just the money. Its about lives and the States loves taking lives for money.
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    canusuck Male 30-39
    777 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 10:18 am
    people can use stats to prove anything-9 out of 10 people know that
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2012 at 10:23 am
    The silver lining to this post is that now the Conservatives will stop complaining about a "liberal bias" on this site.

    Actually they won`t, because they have a persecution complex.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 10:28 am
    Actually Bush did pass a stimulus, but Obama`s was far larger.
    Then there was the Republican approved NCLB and Prescription Drug coverage. So Bush isn`t completely innocent.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2012 at 10:43 am
    don`t care
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 10:49 am
    "there are thousands of dead Americans because G.W.Bush lied his arse off."

    Based on intelligence AT THE TIME given to us by the BRITISH, we had every reason to invade Iraq.

    Also, OBL was in Afghanistan when we invaded. You cannot rationalize us NOT going after his ass.
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    ssalty Male 60-69
    228 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Your figures don`t take into account all the mo0ney Bush spent. Also, remember it sometimes takes a lot of money to clean up a mess. If the Bush administration had nailed the bankers down to repayment plans instead of just handing them the checks.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    May 29, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Well, some of the words were really big, so I am convinced about something.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
    1933 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 10:57 am
    Both sides manipulate numbers to suit their needs.

    All I know is that Obama got us out of two pointless wars, and caught Osama bin Laden. He also is the first president to successfully pass any major change to health care.

    He gets my vote.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:05 am
    "and caught Osama bin Laden"

    HAHAHAHAH!

    HE DIDN`T DO poo!
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:06 am
    "there are thousands of dead Americans because G.W.Bush lied his arse off."

    Based on intelligence AT THE TIME given to us by the BRITISH, we had every reason to invade Iraq.

    Also, OBL was in Afghanistan when we invaded. You cannot rationalize us NOT going after his ass.

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    You need to check your facts there bud. The intelligence was gained by the CIA, then passed to MI6 as factual evidence. This was then passed to the Prime Minister, who agreed with G W Bush about the contents.

    Bush then conviened his joint chiefs, and decided he would go to war. Since The UK`s prime minister agreed with the details ( because he had been told they were true and absolute fact) , he had to go with them as well, or run the risk of the UK being outcast.

    Again, at least get your facts from a real source, and not fox news. Oh wait, you`re a republican. WHat was i thinking.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:07 am
    "and caught Osama bin Laden"

    HAHAHAHAH!

    HE DIDN`T DO poo!
    ----

    Really? His government and intel found someone who G W bush and his numerous military personal and cohorts, couldnt find in 8 years.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:08 am
    You might not like Osama, for whatever reason pops into your head, but theres no need to lie about what he has or hasnt done.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:09 am
    Yeah ted. I can tell you, I don`t like Osama.

    Does anyone here like Osama? I for one will predict that nobody on this site likes Osama.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:12 am
    Actually, Ted. The intel that was gathered to find Osama, was gathered during Bush`s presidency, through waterboarding, and other nefarious interrogation techniques. We monitored him for quite a long time, based off that intel, and acted after a proper plan of attack was formulated.

    That being said, Bush had nothing to do with it either. It was 100% the responsibility, and actions of the US Military and CIA that found, and executed the operation to bring Osama to justice.

    Any president, would have done the same thing Obama did. All he did was said "Well yeah. No duh. Go ahead with the mission!"
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:14 am
    I can guarantee you. More people like osama than liked bush.

    Bush dragged your country into multiple wars.
    Bush gave orders that killed thousands of US soldiers and innocent civilians.
    Bush drove your Economy from a surplus to a record deficit.

    Those are just 3 points, but im pretty sure, people could find much more.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:17 am
    You say it was the CIA`s fault. Really?

    Who was the person who gave the executive order to invade a foreign country and start a major war.

    Who was the person who was meant to make sure that ALL documents were suppossed to have been vetted properly and ensure it had been done so, before dragging their country into a war. Before sacrificing his own economy. Before killing thousands of people.

    But regardless of what i say here, or what actually happened, you will believe whatever you want to believe, and thats fine.

    Just dont run around spreading rumour and conjecture as concrete fact when history, and what actually happened says different.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:26 am
    (Keep in mind, I`m not a fan of Bush)

    Bush`s maximum deficit = 8 trillion.

    Obama`s maximum deficit = 16+ trillion.

    How is Bush`s deficit a record deficit?
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Obama only has a huge deficit now because of the recent Recession ( that was caused by American Bankers and was authorised under bush), and the snowball effect of the despondant economy. It`s the same in pretty much every economy around the world right now.

    The ONLY ways you can revive the economy now is to increase taxes ( which the US NEEDS to do to be viable), or to stop spending, which would effectively turn the states into a third world country.

    So you see, theres no real way out of it. The smart people, including leading economists saw this coming for a long time, and said that taxes needed to be raised.

    But guess who shot the tax rise idea down, every single time? Thats right. Republicans.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 11:45 am
    We already have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world as it stands. That`s why businesses go overseas to manufacture. Why raise them?

    As far as personal taxes go. Ours are middle of the road. The highest would be France. They tax people who make over 100k @ 75%. They are doing very well because of it aren`t they? lol.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    We already have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world as it stands. ----------
    Another "economist" that`s never traveled outside his trailer park. You get your tax info from SIMs too?
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    llaa Male 30-39
    1664 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    Lovely

    It fails to list the $7 trillion blank check the puppet-boy Geitner convinced the Bush administration to allow the Fed to write in order to get the banks to lend money again.

    Obama came into office with the understanding that the Banks Robbed Everyone. I`m surprised we got this far unscathed... (I say that injest)...

    This all can`t be blamed on one individual country or ruler... The Banks ROBBED EVERYONE.

    I do like Iceland though, at least they forgave all mortage debts in their country...
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    Catx Male 18-29
    189 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    What people aren`t considering is that not enough profit from American industry is being recycled into the businesses that make the money and jobs. If the business men that run the industry don`t reinvest more of their own profits into American industry the nations economic value falls. Money reinvested into the industries creates more and better products which creates more American jobs which puts more money into the hands of American consumers to be spent on American products. It is the cycle of business. The answers will not be found in taxing the rich or the poor. To keep our economy from failing we need to FORCE big business men into revitalizing industry. Then instead of selling jobs to other countries, we can sell products.
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    @auburnjunky no we dont!! They go overseas because they can pay people $.50 a hour for labor...they make more profit.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    No matter how you spin it more people going into the polls blame Bush for the mess we are in.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    Catx the lack of reinvestment would be the reason for raising the taxes on the rich so the government can force reinvesting it into job opportunities. As is, the massive bonuses they give themselves become stagnant liquid assets that aren`t generating more revenue and depreciate the value of the entire system due to inflation.
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    Hellsh Male 30-39
    86 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    @auburnjunky, did you pull the 75% out of your arse or did you throw dice to come up with it?

    French income taxes
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    nope, don`t care.
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
    661 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Since when is government spending the source of all problems?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    Tax-Men in Black: Higher Taxes are Bad For Will Smith and the Poor

    Sorry. It`s a proposed tax by the new president.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Here you go Madest.

    I`m pretty sure you won`t respond, since I owned you, again.....
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    OutWest Male 50-59
    546 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    ever see that iphone animation, click here where facts about another phone is met with "I don`t care".... that`s what I expect to read after seeing this. Sub BO for iphone, and you are there!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    You cannot rationalize us NOT going after his ass.

    I CAN rationalize against sending ENTIRE CORPS into the region.
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 6:44 pm
    I honestly cannot believe some people still think raising taxes is the way out of this mess. (After all, it`s worked so wellfir Europe, right?)

    The government has to trim the fat. That`s the only way. If the US government was a person and was spending the way he currently is, I think someone would have taken his checkbook away by now.

    You don`t get out of debt by spending more. You don`t even get out of debt by raising income, because the government spends money like a redneck who just won the lottery (every financial expert in the world will agree that if you pay off every single debt of someone who doesn`t know how to handle money, they`ll be back in poor financial shape in no time).. You get out of debt by tightening your belt, making sacrifices, and spending the money you do have wisely.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 3:39 am
    EmagehtmaI, We got enough money for endless wars. We got enough money to subsidize fortune 500 corporations. We got enough money for tax breaks for the wealthy. In fact we have enough money to rescue the worlds economy on the heels of wall street stealing everyone`s retirement and homes but grandmas social security check is too expensive?
    Democrats are talking about raising taxes on the wealthy to levels comparable to when Clinton was in office. Just a mere 3% on those earning over a million. Many of those people including Romney, don`t work. They earn their income with their money and for doing so are given tax breaks. This nonsense needs to end. Exxon can afford Exxon. Romney can afford Romney. They don`t need my grandmas SS check or CJ`s disability check to stay afloat. Romney wants more military spending, more war and an end to grandmas check so she can live on the street in her final days because she costs too much...
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 4:20 am
    Madest: you`re talking about the buffet rule, correct? People lime warren buffet who earn their incomes exclusively through capital gains?
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 4:38 am
    If so, it`s irrelevant. Just something the Obama administration uses to stir up class warfare. I hate to sound like an idiot like Rush Limbaugh, but it`s true. According to figures released by our own government, the buffet rule would apply to 1% of the 1%, resulting in an increase in tax revenue of (if my memory serves correctly) somewhere around 60 billion. Or, put another way, one day of government spending.

    Tax breaks for the wealthy? Sure, they get some. But remember, the top 30% of income earners in this nation pay 60% of the income taxes, compared to the bottom 50% pay none at all.

    I agree it`s a good thing to end the wars in the middle east. But the simple matter is that government spending is out of control. I agree Bush was a big part of that. I don`t think anyone can deny that. But Obama is worse.
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 4:45 am
    Again, the only way we will ever get out of the huge amount of debt we are in is by cutting spending. Raising taxes is just an issue used to divide people, because the truth is even if we DOUBLED the income tax rates (for everyone) the government wouldn`t say "hey, I just doubled my income, let`s keep living like were were and use the excess income to pay some debt off." No, they would say "I just doubled my income, I`m going to double my spending." And within a year or two, you`d have people wanting to raise taxes yet again, because the government would be spending even MORE money. That`s how our government works. Raising taxes isn`t the answer. Cutting spending is.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 5:14 am
    We won`t get out of debt by continuous war, tax breaks for rich people and subsidies for fortune 500 companies. I wasn`t solely concentrating on the Buffet rule. Don`t worry, your taxes won`t change.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 7:16 am
    My 2 cents... Even if the amount raised is not significant, it`s not a reason to not raise taxes. The reason really is to have equality and justice. Those super rich are a few, they certainly aren`t job creators, on the contrary, they want fewer people on their payroll. Fewer employes, more profit. I still can`t understand anyone who stands for inequality, they must be just evil people who think inside their head that poor and sick should be shot.

    The way i see the current goverments all around the world are trying to give the biggest and richest the most freedom and take everything away from common people. It`s reversed, the way isee it is that goverments should stop meddling with the individual freedoms and start protecting us from the huge multinational corporations who have so much power that they can do what ever they want.

    Once the next too-big-to-fail cycle begins, we all are drated..
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    May 30, 2012 at 7:46 am
    Republican logic dictates that the amount received in taxes outweighs the percentage because republicans don`t care to know math...

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