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62 Responses to Extortion By Police Is Legal & Encouraged In TN

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    May 23, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    Link: Extortion By Police Is Legal & Encouraged In TN - Policing for profit? A NJ man loses $22,000 even though he had committed no crime while traveling through Tennessee.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    This happens in the UK too. Makes you think, doesn`t it?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    That`s just totally f*cked up.
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    OddNumber Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    I just love that long pause the officer had.... AMURRICA
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    Gortrok Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:52 pm
    Jeez, that`s just daylight robbery :/ Except that it`s legal -.-
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    jops360 Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    transporting large sums of money across a border is a crime. they dont know what the money is being used for but the up side is he has a chance of getting it back if he can prove how he got it. a slim chance but still a chance.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    This has been happening a long time. Differant states differant rules. In Texas they kept a mans money, held him for 3 days on "suspicion" and put his 2 kids who were traveling with him in foster care. It took him 3 months to get his kids back.

    Other states the sherrif`s office gets to keep a cut of money confiscated to buy equipment.

    Google `Civil Asset Forfeiture` and you`ll get a lot of examples of this. They can also take your car, boat, anything. One sherrif used forfeiture money to pay for his re-election campain.

    Mini Video on Civil Asset Forfeiture
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    Fancysucksss Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    Corruption corruption, Wherever you go. When it stops nobody knows. This is horrible. I never thought that this kind of thing could happen without sufficient evidence.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    sincere thanks for posting this. in the last 2 or 3 years we`ve bought a few vehicles and some large construction equipment off ebay, so far without any problem. but this news report will be discussed when i get home tonight. he and i work too hard for our money for some little insect to think he can take it away.

    and i would be curious to find out if there is any incentive paid to these `officers`, like maybe a finder`s fee????
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    This is horrible. I never thought that this kind of thing could happen without sufficient evidence.

    You think that`s bad? Or new? Back in the 30`s, when America was coming out of the Great Depression and was trying to re-stabilise its currency, it was even illegal to keep certain forms and quantities of currency *in banks*, never mind keep it about your person. American citizens that owned over a certain quantity of gold, even gold held in banks overseas, had to sell their gold to the US Government for a set (lower-than-market) fee. The US government then re-valued all of said gold once it was in its own reserves, thereby artificially enriching the state. Some US-based banks even illegally broke into US citizens` `secret` bank deposit boxes, and confiscated the illegally-hoarded gold of owners that had missed the deadline to sell their assets to the USG.
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    To be fair, TN is one of the worst states in the nation when it comes to drugs. This law was no doubt written with that ib mind. Also, TN is hardly alone. Seems like there is another state (at least one) that allows police to confiscate property that they even suspect is used in a crime, also without due process. So a police officer could potentially say "I believe this vehicle has been used to transport drugs" and confiscate your vehicle.

    However, police officers should not be able to confiscate property without due process. Period.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    That`s why I keep my money buried in the back yard in jars, and I`ll go do something with that money as soon as I can find that damn map.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:32 pm
    No surprise Tennessee is a solidly republican state.
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    Dover78 Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    Can anyone logically explain (and I really do want to know) why the burden of proof seems to have shifted so wholly onto the accused in situations like this? Laws like this directly contradict the idea of innocent until proven guilty, not to mention the fourth and fifth amendments to our Constitution. The assumption of guilt and taking of action upon it until the accused provides proof of innocence. It`s an insane line of thought, I can`t saunter up to a policeman like this:
    Me:"I say, Officer, you look to be a burly fellow, and not lacking of body hair I believe you pass your nights in the forest sodomizing a grizzly bear."
    Policeman:"No I don`t."
    Me:"Do you, Sir, have on your person, at this moment, the evidence to prove me wrong?"
    Policeman:"No."
    Me:"BEAR-dratER!"
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    meh....
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    the only problem i see is that he 1. admitted to having money (do not lie, just give no response), and 2. he allowed the police to search his car without cause. this is not the officers fault, it is his own. the officer just followed protocol. it is also not the officers job to presume if the person is innocent or guilty, that is a courts job.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 6:26 pm
    It took 4 minutes for them to say he had a previous running into the law, dealing with cocaine possession. Yeah it was 15 years ago but I could see the cop being suspicious with his cash. Anyway, he got his money back...
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 6:29 pm
    I`m curious if they take large sums of cash from people with no record.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    May 23, 2012 at 6:32 pm
    Anybody defending this officer or the state here needs to have their head examined. This is obviously about scamming people out of their dough plain and simple.
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    blobby5 Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    "He couldn`t prove it was legitimate..."

    Whaaaa?
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    May 23, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Time to practice with my sniper rifle...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 23, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    I swear, the state this country is in, I am just one AK47 away from a clock tower!
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Paperduck, he was arrested and never convicted and it was actually 27 years ago. How does that in any way at all make him a suspicious person if he says he`s buying a car? Come on, dude.

    drat the PO-LICE!

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    Otto67 Male 40-49
    438 posts
    May 23, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    This isn`t surprising in the least. It is all part of the RICO statutes passed in the 80`s. Property that is SUSPECTED to be part of a crime is forfeited. Now the law uses this to help supplement their budgets. The
    "land of the free " indeed.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    At what point does mass execution of government officials become morally justified? I think we`re just about there.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 23, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @ intrigid - about 12 years ago.
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    Mad_Gremlyn Male 30-39
    512 posts
    May 23, 2012 at 9:17 pm
    Red state. Full of idiots. That accent should be grounds for self defense. "He had a southern accent so I shot him, your honor." Case dismissed. I know you don`t like that but it`s getting there. I can`t wait! Brains will win, rednecks will be extinct!
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    keith2 Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 9:25 pm
    Come on now, the police have every right to take anything you have at any time. You know you are presumed guilty (by the police) until somebody (definitely not the police) can prove your innocence.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 9:55 pm
    Nah. Sorry anyone else defending this but that`s blatantly unconstitutional. He`s still an absolute, absolute moron for giving the officer permission to search his car without a warrant, I would almost say he shares the blame.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 9:55 pm
    this is what America really is.

    make NO MISTAKE, EVERY state has a version of this law and VERY state uses it.

    the federal government also has a law that does the same thing.

    This is why I am voting for Ron Paul. this and a million other abuses of our rights by a gov that it totally out of control.

    it is time to tear it down people.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    Was it painfully obvious to anyone else that the reporter reading the story was trying to hide an accent?
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    May 23, 2012 at 10:43 pm
    This is typical of the problems the USA has with its tendency to place lawmaking in the hands of individual states. It comes up when gun laws are examined: in one state, any driver`s license gets you a handgun on the spot, but go across the state line and it`s a record check, waiting period, etc. In Canada (and, I expect, other countries) serious legal matters (death penalty, gun laws, police behaviour limits, etc.) are in the hands of the federal government.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2012 at 11:07 pm
    wow drat america
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    May 23, 2012 at 11:17 pm
    Again the South - WTF !!
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    Izaq Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 11:32 pm
    ".. again he couldn`t prove that the money was legitimate!"

    Nice to hear that the police has a firm grasp of the concept "Innocent until proven guilty".

    Can you prove, that you are not going to stab your boss with a knife at lunch? No? Better eat with your bare hands then. In TN that is ;)
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    Izaq Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2012 at 11:40 pm
    Extra bonus: To get his money back he has to agree not to sue the state.

    Isn`t that some sort of extortion?
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 1:31 am
    It`s starting to look more and more like a third world country over there. Luckily you still have thousands of nukes...... -.-
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 24, 2012 at 2:00 am
    madest: You really can`t help yourself from trolling can you?
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 3:29 am
    USA, Land of the free!
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 4:13 am
    No, it`s:

    America, the land of the people who think they are free.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    May 24, 2012 at 5:53 am
    No, it`s:

    America, the land of the people who think they are free.

    Pretty sure the USA is correct. Turns out there`s more to America than just the USA, go figure.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 5:56 am
    It`s starting to look more and more like a third world country over there. Luckily you still have thousands of nukes...... -.-

    Possibly corrupt police in one place of a large country make us a third world country riiiigght...
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    May 24, 2012 at 6:09 am
    This is typical of the problems the USA has with its tendency to place lawmaking in the hands of individual states. It comes up when gun laws are examined: in one state, any driver`s license gets you a handgun on the spot, but go across the state line and it`s a record check, waiting period, etc. In Canada (and, I expect, other countries) serious legal matters (death penalty, gun laws, police behaviour limits, etc.) are in the hands of the federal government.

    I`m sorry but have you seen our federal government? They want 3 committees and nine departments to accomplish any one task. Keep in mind none of those groups would interface or otherwise communicate with each other.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:14 am
    Again, this is why we have the second ammendment.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:14 am
    Possibly corrupt police in one place of a large country make us a third world country riiiigght...

    Possibly? In one place? Are you high right now?
    Tanking economy, corrupt government, and oppressive police forces. Sounds a lot like a start to third world to me. You keep drinking the kool-aid and telling yourself everything is peachy, champ.
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    o_cantiflas Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:22 am
    I just... `Cause... Could you possibly...

    "Possibly corrupt police in one place of a large country make us a third world country riiiigght..."

    In terms of legislation, the US are a third world country. Oldfashioned, primitive country
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:29 am
    with liberty and justice for some
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    Willowwatch Female 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:52 am
    step 1. don`t get pulled over
    step 2. work to change the policies that don`t work for you
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:53 am
    Again, this is why we have the second ammendment.
    Is it really? Because I don`t think that particular amendment helped him all that much in this case.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 6:57 am
    @PinkRhoid

    You just described every government on the planet. I guess I`m not cool enough to be anti US. He was arrested for dealing cocaine at one point making the police suspicious and did he not get his money back?

    @o_cantiflas
    Tell me where you`re from and I`ll point out your flaws mudslingings simple.
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    notorious98 Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 7:13 am
    @Willowwatch

    Kinda hard to get policies changed in a state that you don`t live in.
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    notorious98 Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 7:14 am
    He should have told the officer, "Yes, I do mind if you search my vehicle. Warrant MFer."
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    notorious98 Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 7:17 am
    @jamie76

    Wait, you`re voting for Ron Paul because state`s have laws like this? You do realize he`s a state`s rights activist, right?
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 24, 2012 at 8:17 am
    @Willowwatch
    I would expect something that naive of a teenager but you’re in your 30s
    I thing you need to learn how laws are passed in this country
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 8:24 am
    He should have told the officer, "Yes, I do mind if you search my vehicle. Warrant MFer."
    I`m not exactly well-versed in state law, but since he already told the officer how much money he has, would he even need a warrant?
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    May 24, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Highway robbery!
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    viperjason Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 10:10 am
    A) He let him them search his car.
    B) He answered the question of having cash. You do NOT have to answer any questions.
    C) He gave them the cash.
    D) He was speeding

    Never talk to the police. It will never help you...but showing your tits might :)
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 24, 2012 at 10:41 am

    WHAT!!!!! Are you implying our state officials and constabulary are corrupt?

    I`m shocked! SHOCKED I SAY!
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    May 24, 2012 at 11:43 am
    @ patchgrabber: The second ammendment was added to ensure the people`s ability to use force to fight back against an oppresive government.

    When cops strat getting shot by otherwise law abiding citizens for abusing the authority granted to them and otherwise operating in a corrupt manner, all hell will break loose then when the smoke clears, they will have learned a lesson. An armed citizenry is a free citizenry. (unless they are pansies and choose to be sheeple instead)
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    Theyoyoguy Male 18-29
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    May 24, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Its a good thing im never ever going to Tennessee for as long as I live.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    May 25, 2012 at 5:22 am
    Nobody is shocked. This is TN, not Singapore, FFS.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    May 25, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    The root of this problem is that drugs are illegal. Ron Paul 2012!

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