Extortion By Police Is Legal & Encouraged In TN

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 4 years ago

Policing for profit? A NJ man loses $22,000 even though he had committed no crime while traveling through Tennessee.
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Male 1,511
The root of this problem is that drugs are illegal. Ron Paul 2012!
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Male 14,773
Nobody is shocked. This is TN, not Singapore, FFS.
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Male 462
Its a good thing im never ever going to Tennessee for as long as I live.
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Male 1,229
@ patchgrabber: The second ammendment was added to ensure the people`s ability to use force to fight back against an oppresive government.

When cops strat getting shot by otherwise law abiding citizens for abusing the authority granted to them and otherwise operating in a corrupt manner, all hell will break loose then when the smoke clears, they will have learned a lesson. An armed citizenry is a free citizenry. (unless they are pansies and choose to be sheeple instead)
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Male 37,888

WHAT!!!!! Are you implying our state officials and constabulary are corrupt?

I`m shocked! SHOCKED I SAY!
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Male 68
A) He let him them search his car.
B) He answered the question of having cash. You do NOT have to answer any questions.
C) He gave them the cash.
D) He was speeding

Never talk to the police. It will never help you...but showing your tits might :)
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Female 2,549
Highway robbery!
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Male 5,811
[quote]He should have told the officer, "Yes, I do mind if you search my vehicle. Warrant MFer."[/quote]
I`m not exactly well-versed in state law, but since he already told the officer how much money he has, would he even need a warrant?
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Male 3,577
@Willowwatch
I would expect something that naive of a teenager but you’re in your 30s
I thing you need to learn how laws are passed in this country
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Male 151
@jamie76

Wait, you`re voting for Ron Paul because state`s have laws like this? You do realize he`s a state`s rights activist, right?
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Male 151
He should have told the officer, "Yes, I do mind if you search my vehicle. Warrant MFer."
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Male 151
@Willowwatch

Kinda hard to get policies changed in a state that you don`t live in.
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Male 14,330
@PinkRhoid

You just described every government on the planet. I guess I`m not cool enough to be anti US. He was arrested for dealing cocaine at one point making the police suspicious and did he not get his money back?

@o_cantiflas
Tell me where you`re from and I`ll point out your flaws mudslingings simple.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Again, this is why we have the second ammendment.[/quote]
Is it really? Because I don`t think that particular amendment helped him all that much in this case.
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Female 734
step 1. don`t get pulled over
step 2. work to change the policies that don`t work for you
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Male 3,577
with liberty and justice for some
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Male 13
I just... `Cause... Could you possibly...

"Possibly corrupt police in one place of a large country make us a third world country riiiigght..."

In terms of legislation, the US are a third world country. Oldfashioned, primitive country
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Male 1,239
[quote]Possibly corrupt police in one place of a large country make us a third world country riiiigght...[/quote]

Possibly? In one place? Are you high right now?
Tanking economy, corrupt government, and oppressive police forces. Sounds a lot like a start to third world to me. You keep drinking the kool-aid and telling yourself everything is peachy, champ.
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Male 1,229
Again, this is why we have the second ammendment.
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Male 1,239
[quote]This is typical of the problems the USA has with its tendency to place lawmaking in the hands of individual states. It comes up when gun laws are examined: in one state, any driver`s license gets you a handgun on the spot, but go across the state line and it`s a record check, waiting period, etc. In Canada (and, I expect, other countries) serious legal matters (death penalty, gun laws, police behaviour limits, etc.) are in the hands of the federal government.[/quote]

I`m sorry but have you seen our federal government? They want 3 committees and nine departments to accomplish any one task. Keep in mind none of those groups would interface or otherwise communicate with each other.
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Male 14,330
[quote]It`s starting to look more and more like a third world country over there. Luckily you still have thousands of nukes...... -.-[/quote]

Possibly corrupt police in one place of a large country make us a third world country riiiigght...
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Male 1,239
[quote]No, it`s:

America, the land of the people who think they are free.[/quote]

Pretty sure the USA is correct. Turns out there`s more to America than just the USA, go figure.
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Male 1,623
No, it`s:

America, the land of the people who think they are free.
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Male 1,178
USA, Land of the free!
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Male 17,512
madest: You really can`t help yourself from trolling can you?
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Male 1,471
It`s starting to look more and more like a third world country over there. Luckily you still have thousands of nukes...... -.-
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Male 173
Extra bonus: To get his money back he has to agree not to sue the state.

Isn`t that some sort of extortion?
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Male 173
".. again he couldn`t prove that the money was legitimate!"

Nice to hear that the police has a firm grasp of the concept "Innocent until proven guilty".

Can you prove, that you are not going to stab your boss with a knife at lunch? No? Better eat with your bare hands then. In TN that is ;)
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Male 1,558
Again the South - WTF !!
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Male 2,384
wow drat america
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Female 6,381
This is typical of the problems the USA has with its tendency to place lawmaking in the hands of individual states. It comes up when gun laws are examined: in one state, any driver`s license gets you a handgun on the spot, but go across the state line and it`s a record check, waiting period, etc. In Canada (and, I expect, other countries) serious legal matters (death penalty, gun laws, police behaviour limits, etc.) are in the hands of the federal government.
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Male 2,034
Was it painfully obvious to anyone else that the reporter reading the story was trying to hide an accent?
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Male 2,345
this is what America really is.

make NO MISTAKE, EVERY state has a version of this law and VERY state uses it.

the federal government also has a law that does the same thing.

This is why I am voting for Ron Paul. this and a million other abuses of our rights by a gov that it totally out of control.

it is time to tear it down people.
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Female 1,566
Nah. Sorry anyone else defending this but that`s blatantly unconstitutional. He`s still an absolute, absolute moron for giving the officer permission to search his car without a warrant, I would almost say he shares the blame.
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Male 2,592
Come on now, the police have every right to take anything you have at any time. You know you are presumed guilty (by the police) until somebody (definitely not the police) can prove your innocence.
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Male 512
Red state. Full of idiots. That accent should be grounds for self defense. "He had a southern accent so I shot him, your honor." Case dismissed. I know you don`t like that but it`s getting there. I can`t wait! Brains will win, rednecks will be extinct!
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Male 37,888

@ intrigid - about 12 years ago.
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Male 914
At what point does mass execution of government officials become morally justified? I think we`re just about there.
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Male 438
This isn`t surprising in the least. It is all part of the RICO statutes passed in the 80`s. Property that is SUSPECTED to be part of a crime is forfeited. Now the law uses this to help supplement their budgets. The
"land of the free " indeed.
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Male 1,754
Paperduck, he was arrested and never convicted and it was actually 27 years ago. How does that in any way at all make him a suspicious person if he says he`s buying a car? Come on, dude.

drat the PO-LICE!

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Male 37,888

I swear, the state this country is in, I am just one AK47 away from a clock tower!
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Male 2,143
Time to practice with my sniper rifle...
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Male 144
"He couldn`t prove it was legitimate..."

Whaaaa?
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Male 2,362
Anybody defending this officer or the state here needs to have their head examined. This is obviously about scamming people out of their dough plain and simple.
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Male 1,745
I`m curious if they take large sums of cash from people with no record.
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Male 1,745
It took 4 minutes for them to say he had a previous running into the law, dealing with cocaine possession. Yeah it was 15 years ago but I could see the cop being suspicious with his cash. Anyway, he got his money back...
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Male 612
the only problem i see is that he 1. admitted to having money (do not lie, just give no response), and 2. he allowed the police to search his car without cause. this is not the officers fault, it is his own. the officer just followed protocol. it is also not the officers job to presume if the person is innocent or guilty, that is a courts job.
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Male 25,416
meh....
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Male 224
Can anyone logically explain (and I really do want to know) why the burden of proof seems to have shifted so wholly onto the accused in situations like this? Laws like this directly contradict the idea of innocent until proven guilty, not to mention the fourth and fifth amendments to our Constitution. The assumption of guilt and taking of action upon it until the accused provides proof of innocence. It`s an insane line of thought, I can`t saunter up to a policeman like this:
Me:"I say, Officer, you look to be a burly fellow, and not lacking of body hair I believe you pass your nights in the forest sodomizing a grizzly bear."
Policeman:"No I don`t."
Me:"Do you, Sir, have on your person, at this moment, the evidence to prove me wrong?"
Policeman:"No."
Me:"BEAR-dratER!"
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Male 7,378
No surprise Tennessee is a solidly republican state.
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Male 3,061
That`s why I keep my money buried in the back yard in jars, and I`ll go do something with that money as soon as I can find that damn map.
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Male 187
To be fair, TN is one of the worst states in the nation when it comes to drugs. This law was no doubt written with that ib mind. Also, TN is hardly alone. Seems like there is another state (at least one) that allows police to confiscate property that they even suspect is used in a crime, also without due process. So a police officer could potentially say "I believe this vehicle has been used to transport drugs" and confiscate your vehicle.

However, police officers should not be able to confiscate property without due process. Period.
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Female 2,602
[quote]This is horrible. I never thought that this kind of thing could happen without sufficient evidence.[/quote]

You think that`s bad? Or new? Back in the 30`s, when America was coming out of the Great Depression and was trying to re-stabilise its currency, it was even illegal to keep certain forms and quantities of currency *in banks*, never mind keep it about your person. American citizens that owned over a certain quantity of gold, even gold held in banks overseas, had to sell their gold to the US Government for a set (lower-than-market) fee. The US government then re-valued all of said gold once it was in its own reserves, thereby artificially enriching the state. Some US-based banks even illegally broke into US citizens` `secret` bank deposit boxes, and confiscated the illegally-hoarded gold of owners that had missed the deadline to sell their assets to the USG.
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Female 4,086
sincere thanks for posting this. in the last 2 or 3 years we`ve bought a few vehicles and some large construction equipment off ebay, so far without any problem. but this news report will be discussed when i get home tonight. he and i work too hard for our money for some little insect to think he can take it away.

and i would be curious to find out if there is any incentive paid to these `officers`, like maybe a finder`s fee????
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Male 1,048
Corruption corruption, Wherever you go. When it stops nobody knows. This is horrible. I never thought that this kind of thing could happen without sufficient evidence.
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Male 37,888

This has been happening a long time. Differant states differant rules. In Texas they kept a mans money, held him for 3 days on "suspicion" and put his 2 kids who were traveling with him in foster care. It took him 3 months to get his kids back.

Other states the sherrif`s office gets to keep a cut of money confiscated to buy equipment.

Google `Civil Asset Forfeiture` and you`ll get a lot of examples of this. They can also take your car, boat, anything. One sherrif used forfeiture money to pay for his re-election campain.

Mini Video on Civil Asset Forfeiture
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Male 689
transporting large sums of money across a border is a crime. they dont know what the money is being used for but the up side is he has a chance of getting it back if he can prove how he got it. a slim chance but still a chance.
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Male 772
Jeez, that`s just daylight robbery :/ Except that it`s legal -.-
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Male 201
I just love that long pause the officer had.... AMURRICA
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Male 17,512
That`s just totally f*cked up.
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Female 2,602
This happens in the UK too. Makes you think, doesn`t it?
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Female 8,044
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