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38 Responses to Bill Gates Wants Depopulation Through Health Care

  1. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    May 15, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    Link: Bill Gates Wants Depopulation Through Health Care - Bill Gates suggests we can reduce the population with vaccines and healthcare. Crazy radical thinking or is this good?
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    GlockPants Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:12 am
    Would`ve liked to see the rest. Time to fire up the Google machine.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:20 am
    Bill Gates has now entered full on `Crackpot` status now.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:27 am

    Huh? With better health care people live longer, and the infant mortality rate drops. How does that reduce population?
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:28 am
    My guess is that he meant raise, not lower. Just a slip of the tongue.
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    GlockPants Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:33 am
    http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates.html

    Here is the whole video, it isn`t about eugenics. If you notice when he explains his equation, there are arrows showing how these variables will behave in the equation. Population is going up...so...yeah.
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    ecstacy911 Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:34 am
    That`s it? What he`s saying makes complete sense. Educate people (more specifically women, even though men should also take responsibility for birth control and reproductive health) and provide waaaaay more access to that health care, and our populations will stop rising so rapidly. It`s not innovative, it`s what people have been saying for years, and it`s been proven many times over in developing countries.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:54 am
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    simbha Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:02 am
    I didn`t look at the video, but I`m guessing he`s referring to the reduction in birth rates which tends to offset the reduction in mortality rates. Countries with better healthcare access do tend to have lower population growth rates. But, the mechanism for this is complex and it`s not obvious that extrapolation from `developed` to `more developed` is appropriate.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:04 am
    Gerry1of1: "Huh? With better health care people live longer, and the infant mortality rate drops. How does that reduce population?"

    Because in poorer countries like India, the higher the infant mortality rate, the more kids they have to insure that someone will be there to care for them when they get old. The lower the mortyality rate, the fewer kids they have, therefor reducing population growth.
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    beternal Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:07 am
    Still, healthcare is probably one of the biggest contributors to the world`s environmental decline. Better health = longer life = overpopulation = more food/ resources needed = deforestation/ increased CO2...

    Lets face facts... people will use oil/ gas until it runs out... once it`s gone it`s gone... same with all the animals, agricultural land and other resources. Mankind will burn themselves out and serves them right.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:20 am
    beternal: Here, have a hug. You seem to need it.

    *HUG*
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:24 am

    I get it.
    Better health care leads to increased population.
    Increased Population leads to Political strife
    Political strife leads to war.
    Yes, war could definately reduce the population.

    Brilliant!
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    bucksteeth Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:40 am
    @Cajun247

    Couldn`t have said it better man.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:47 am
    "The lower the mortyality rate, the fewer kids they have, therefor reducing population growth."

    Short term. As health and money become stable, people start to focus on building a family. Instead of having five babies and hoping one lives they`re having three babies that they know will survive. So that occasional +1 turns into a guaranteed +3.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 7:58 am
    It is simple and not a new idea at all. Developed countries that have health care and education available are seeing a decrease in reproduction. Uneducated, unhealthy, third world countries have very very high reproductive rates.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 16, 2012 at 8:48 am

    "The lower the mortyality rate, the fewer kids they have, therefor reducing population growth."
    It didn`t work out that way here in USA.
    As people got better health care and better food, we had the BABY BOOM.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Because in poorer countries like India, the higher the infant mortality rate, the more kids they have to insure that someone will be there to care for them when they get old. The lower the mortyality rate, the fewer kids they have, therefor reducing population growth.
    In theory this sounds correct, but you`re assuming that these countries will just stop what they`ve been doing for decades. They won`t just stop having as many kids, it`s a part of their culture now. They would just have MORE kids because less would die.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 8:54 am
    @cajun: You get one free internet for the pic of Fillion.

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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 9:13 am
    So that all you confused people can get on the same page.
    Here`s a world map, overlayed with population growth data.



    Source: Wikipedia.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 9:56 am
    And Bill Gates gives money to Africa mabey we should air drop them contraceptives along with food.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Does anyone care about nitrogen and nitrogen compounds?
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    Frankii Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 10:38 am
    I thought he meant that we could reduce population growth, not the actual population
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 16, 2012 at 11:18 am
    He`s nutz. All that money and power has rotted his brainz completely.
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    wolladude Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 11:24 am
    This is why same sex marriage is good for the planet!
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    May 16, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    Not a new idea at all. If you have high infant mortality people have loads of kids, reduce that so people have less children and those people will be wealthier. Continue that trend and people will die off faster than they are born- even with good healthcare.
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    I think we should reduce the population by giving vasectomies and hysterectomies to anyone not deemed worthy of breeding. Eugenics is a great idea.
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    taelmx Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    I think he meant would could bring down the growth through educating the public about stuff like...how not to accidentally reproduce.
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    Makes sense.
    6.5 billion is too many people.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    The "experts" say the earth can only support half of it`s current population. So what is doing right now? Oh! That`s right. It`s not supporting it`s current population with exponential growth. No. Wait. If it can`t support us then how can we be growing so fast? Stupid experts.
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    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    @RytWing - If you think the planet is currently supporting the population you might want to get outside a little more.
    When we reach critical mass it isn`t like a switch will be flipped and we all die off. It will be a slow process as millions starve, species disappear, the climate changes, etc.
    Oh wait, that`s going on right now.
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    RytWing Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2012 at 9:27 am
    @cynicalgamer. How much food does this country throw out every day? The problem isn`t that there isn`t enough it`s getting into the right places at the right time. There is plenty to go around there isn`t enough money in the right places to get it there.
    @honkeylips. Who gets to be on the eugenics committy? I`ll tell you, rich old white people. Still a good idea? bye bye brown people.
    No man should tell another man he can`t reproduce. This from the people that believe in natural selection. Let nature take its course and quit trying to kill each other.
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    The population is suppose to peak in the next few decades, (close to 2050 and close to 9 or 10 billion people, i think). The growth comes from underdeveloped countries and the slow down comes from just the opposite. When you give women education and a means to have a carrer and make their own decisions, birth rates decrease.
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    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
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    May 17, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    We can`t just put this on women. Men need educated as well.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    Incorrect assumptions:

    1) Global CO2 is rising
    2) Rising CO2 leads to rising temperatures
    3) Rising temperatures are bad

    None of the above has been proven.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 17, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    Hey, Bill, do you REALLY want to reduce the population? Why don`t you start by killing your three kids? Then you can kill yourself.

    Before you do, though, could you please, for f***`s sake, fix the bugs in Office 97?
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    photomstr Male 50-59
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    May 17, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    He is dead on. There are too many people (to, too, two)7 billion starving people. Hungry people will kill for food. War, world war, world wide famine. But who has all the babies? Primitive superstitious religions that`s who. We must grow up and cast off the primitive shackles or all mankind is doomed . . .
  38. Profile photo of CynicalGamer
    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
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    May 19, 2012 at 10:08 am
    @RytWing - If you think the planet is currently supporting the population you might want to get outside a little more.
    When we reach critical mass it isn`t like a switch will be flipped and we all die off. It will be a slow process as millions starve, species disappear, the climate changes, etc.
    Oh wait, that`s going on right now.

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