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Date: 05/28/12 10:30 AM

33 Responses to A Rare Look At Apple`s Production Line In China

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2012 at 10:22 am
    Link: A Rare Look At Apple`s Production Line In China - If it`s made so cheaply and is so expensive, where do you think all your money goes?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 28, 2012 at 10:43 am

    It`s a brilliant product well worth the cost.
    I don`t see any problem at that factory.
    Lebratard whiners don`t like it but it
    doesn`t take much to set them off.
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    Wibble4321 Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2012 at 10:50 am
    A fascinating look into Chinese manufacturing. This is the absolute pinnacle - th every top of the top of manufacturing processes in China, and it is all still mostly manual labour.

    As staffing costs rise, China becomes less economically viable. Western countries are beginning to be able to compete again in some manufacturing spaces due to improvements in automated engineering - it starts to become more sensible to have machines make the things locally where there are no shipping costs, short lead times and better quality consistency. I look forward to it - however does anyone have a clue what 1bn Chinese will do when we have machines to make our socks instead of a Chinese person earning $1/hour?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2012 at 11:00 am
    It is refreshing to still see actual journalism this day and age.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2012 at 11:07 am
    "If it`s made so cheaply and is so expensive, where do you think all your money goes?"

    Really? Do you think that maybe most of it goes to the people that come up with the product? The people that design the parts. The people that make it work.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2012 at 11:17 am
    "If it`s made so cheaply and is so expensive, where do you think all your money goes?"

    So dumb. Well it goes to R&D and design with a huge portion going to the most valuable company in the history of the world. So what? Prices aren`t set by cost, they are set by demand. You think a $3,000 purse costs that much because the fabric is so nice? Or because they are paying the factory workers $500 an hour? If I developed a product that people were willing to spend $500 on and it only cost me $1 to make I`d still sell it for $500.
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    jacos27 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2012 at 11:26 am
    @Gerry...this was a horrible, biased report. He even admits to it. That was supposed to be some sort of transparency, but do you think that stops him from biased reporting? This wasn`t fair reporting. You heard nothing from anyone other than Foxconn workers and an Apple hired auditor. I bet you that their supervisors were behind camera so they wouldn`t say anything bad. Also, it`s been reported (though I don`t know the source off hand) that when they expect outsiders (reporters and auditors) that they don`t have their younger underage workers working that day. No mention of that. This was an absolutely HORRIBLE report to base your "i don`t see any problem at that factory" response.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2012 at 11:31 am
    "If it`s made so cheaply and is so expensive, where do you think all your money goes?"

    Did someone not hear about $100,000,000,000 in liquid assets?
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2012 at 11:34 am
    Well, these are factory- workers doing repetitive labor, like factory- workers all over the world do, while thinking of home and that they are tired.

    As in any media report, the press is only shown the "sunny" sides, so we can be sure that all Apple- products in China are not assembled under these conditions.

    However, ask any Greek, Spanish, American or Italian jobless family man if he could choose - any job is better than no job. That`s indisputable.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
    626 posts
    May 28, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    I don`t know why people get so upset about this kind of thing. The same thing happened in America and Europe a century ago, but people got tired of it and forced the companies/government to make working conditions better. Eventually the Chinese and Indians will do the same.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Mmm - shareholders.
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    simbha Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    HolyGod: "So dumb. Well it goes to R&D and design with a huge portion going to the most valuable company in the history of the world."

    I agree with most of what you`ve said, but AAPL is not the most valuable company in the history of the world. It`s not even the most valuable publicly traded company in the history of the world. That title (likely) goes to MSFT, which reached a market cap of nearly $850 billion in today`s dollars. Maybe AAPL will reach that valuation, but it hasn`t yet.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Wow no union in a communist country? The labor union is the epitome of Communism
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    May 28, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    What was wrong with that? Safe, clean, regular work that won`t cripple you. I used to work night-shift on a powdered soup production line, got home and into the shower and I was ankle-deep in minestrone. Bloody Royco.

    If there is anything outrage-worthy going on it wasn`t apparent from this.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    dm2754: Labor unions, Student activists, Reporters and Socialist politicians are what Lenin called `Useful idiots`. Why? Because once communism takes hold completely, they eliminate those `Agents of Influence`, send them to gulags and prisons, or just kill them. Once the realization sets in that they are loosing all their freedoms, they`ll attempt to stop it, but by then it`s too late. The counter-revolutionary threat is eliminated before it begins to grow in strength.

    Putin is already arresting protestors, crushing the free press, doing what he was trained to do by the KGB. If Russia doesn`t rid itself of him soon they`ll slip right back into a dictatorship.

    A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have. - Thomas Jefferson
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    May 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    CrakrJak

    Re: Putin, can`t argue with that. Russia has never really tasted freedom (you can`t really call a violent kleptoctracy freedom) and doesn`t seem likely to any time soon.

    But the student activists, journalists etc. who are protesting Putin, are they useful idiots for someone?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    @dm2754 - "The labor union is the epitome of Communism"

    If it wasn`t for labor unions you wouldn`t enjoy most of the paid holidays, paid vacation, and paid sick leave you get every year. Most of the negative bullsh*t you hear about them is thrown out there because whatever non-union company it is you work for enjoys getting away with paying you peanuts while the ones at the top of the food chain rake in millions.

    After going through a four year apprenticeship with the IBEW as a journeyman, depending on the type of job, I can expect to be paid anywhere from $30-$55/hr. I have a friend with the exact same training and experience who makes around $18-$20/hr in a non-union shop. Sure we pay dues to the local, but that`s nowhere near what the difference in pay is between union/non-union shops, plus a nice pension & healthcare plan after retirement.
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    are7era Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    what a bunch of stupid pro-apple propaganda. We should all love apple now because their exploits of the Chinese has resulted in these Chinese people not being AS exploited as they could be.
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    uatme Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    No such thing as a bad job
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
    674 posts
    May 28, 2012 at 5:07 pm
    Suicide nets! Threatening to jump off the roof of the building in protest!

    Sounds like a perfectly normal place to me.

    Lets face the truth together: Publicly traded corporations are inherently evil. The bottom line IS the bottom line. Quality of life, welfare and the environment mean nothing.
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    miasmaat Female 18-29
    298 posts
    May 28, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    Propaganda. You are still exploitative bastards apple.
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    uatme Male 18-29
    1068 posts
    May 28, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    Yup Apple is exploiting everyone who buys their products
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    I don`t see what`s so bad about this, looks way better than my old job at Tim Horton`s
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 28, 2012 at 8:07 pm
    If Apple made all their iCrap in America, 90% of their customers couldn`t afford it.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    What`s the problem? Seems like a better gig for untalented uneducated tweens than joining the military. I mean, really, compare this to some guy working the flight deck on a US naval carrier.

    I mean, I understand the importance of manual labor to the psyche. The amount of it required on a flight deck is probably the reason the suicide rate is no where near what these chinese are suggesting at their plant. That said, just as repetitive, same shifts, comparable wages, isolation, grievance resolution, and risks to ones health.

    Big whoop.
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    ryan99 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2012 at 12:52 am
    Maaan. $2 per hour. That`s unreal.
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    thenedman Male 18-29
    294 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 2:03 am
    @ryan99 Not that I am defending Apple or the low pay, as honestly Apple are dicks, but that $2 a hour will go a lot further in China. I lived in Beijing for 2 months and if you looked around you could get a equivalent 3 course meal for $2. Though it was then another $1 for a coke as they have some weird soda tax that makes them expensive.
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    New_Guy Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2012 at 3:23 am
    propaganda
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    May 29, 2012 at 5:07 am
    Stopped at 11 minute mark. I don`t see any worse then a lot of third world country working conditions. Yes workers are not paid enough & yes they work like robots for way longer then the brain & body can cope but it`s completely voluntary!
    The suicides are management issues not Applea responsibility.
    Don`t see anything that will stop me from buying apple products.
    What this situation needs is local labour law activist.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
    878 posts
    May 29, 2012 at 6:16 am
    People close to me worked in a cube as a contractor for 10 years at HP. They did the same job as employees, but got no benefits, couldn`t use any corporate facilities, couldn`t attend company social events, were forced to take unpaid vacation every year, and weren`t even allowed to drink the company coffee. They were given red name tags so they could be easily identified.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2012 at 7:00 am
    The money goes to feed Steve Jobs empty soul for future world dominationz!!!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2012 at 8:42 am
    @burbclaver: He worked on this cube? :O


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    PopCap Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    It`s not much different from slave ownership. More like slave contractorship.

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