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66 Responses to Zimmerman Free – Black Woman Convicted On SYG Law?

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    April 25, 2012 at 9:35 am
    Link: Zimmerman Free - Black Woman Convicted On SYG Law? - Same law, same state, but different consequences. Did she `Stand Your Ground`? If so why was she arrested & convicted?
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:11 am
    so she shot at his kids too?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:16 am
    Just like the Zimmerman/Martin case, we don`t know all the details.

    Did she hit him first?

    We don`t know.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:16 am
    How about the whole story fist.....wait, she fired at his children?
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:18 am
    `first`
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    Reaper171 Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:18 am
    Dem blacks, still leaning on their colour, but no, a domestic case against a violent case on the street? pretty sure domestic violence is not an issue for police to resolve aslong as it isnt life threatening, shooting the guy she should be put in jail.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:21 am

    HEADLINE FAIL - zimmerman is not `free`, the trial hasn`t even started yet.

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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Well, she shot her weapon at her (current?) husband AND his two children?

    Because she was afraid, not because he actually tried to harm her?

    Limited information in that link, eh?

    More Information Here

    It seems that the presence of the children has influenced the case, which it probably should not.
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    aburrido2 Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:27 am
    None of us here were there so we really can`t comment. Either way this seems like yellow journalism (which means any form of journalism whose techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism) before any of you liberals cry racist. Both sides are guilty of it and we need to start thinking on our own.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:31 am
    She got the same thing as Zimmerman. The only difference is,she can`t afford bail. So? Yeah it`s equal.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:35 am
    I think whoever made the YT video truly thinks GZ is white...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:42 am
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:43 am
    AMUUUUUUUUUUURICA!
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:43 am
    ummmm.. first of all it was her husband.. so this is totally diff situation all together.. if he was abusive she could have called police long time ago and had his ass put in jail.. but no she decides to wait tell he beats her good then shoot him.. right..
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    skytz1337 Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:47 am
    because she didnt kill anyone shes in jail...america...never disappoints in stupidity
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:50 am
    ` pretty sure domestic violence is not an issue for police to resolve aslong as it isnt life threatening...`

    What part of Europe are you from? It`s certainly a police matter in the UK.

    auburnjunky,

    Exactly. How can you form an opinion from a four minute clip?
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    I`m pretty sure Zimmerman won`t live 5 years.Suicide,drugs,or murder... Just saying
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    Story in a nutshell (mostly from her point of view):
    She cheated on husband.
    Husband finds out thru texts on her phone.
    Husband threatens to kill her.
    She goes in garage to get gun.
    Comes back inside and fires a shot at husband (and kids).
    Husband grabs kids and runs out.

    -Not at all like Zimmerman case.
    -She has already been convicted.
    -I`m sure this isn`t the whole truth.
    -I may have acquitted her, but I didn`t hear the whole trial.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Skytz-Europe-The Crusades,Nazis,Skinheads,Muslim terrorists....Yeah. And you lost 2 world wars. America says "Good luck on your future endevors."
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    Their argument is what?
    Stand Your Ground law didn`t work and let this poor women get convicted solely because she`s black and not on the merits of her case?

    Just more race-baiting to me. But that`s easy for me to say, I wasn`t there.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    @greenbastard

    You sir, are the idiots, of all idiots who will idiotically poo on this website today. I am extremely unlikely to run across anybody who says anything more idiotic than what you just said.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    There are a lot of conflicting statements in her case, the husband supports her story initially then recants. She fired at him and didn`t fire at him. She remembered her gun but forgot her keys ? She`s charged with assault yet didn`t hurt him at all.

    That case is so full of weirdness that I believe she does deserve another trial. I`m not even sure if an aggravated assault charge is even appropriate considering she was trying to prevent a another crime, namely further assault on her.
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    Reaper171 Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    Is her husband black? How big is her husband? Is he bigger than her? Ive read about alot of cases in which a women claims not to be able to fight back against abusers, in which the women is one hella fatty that cant possibly be weaker than her husband, if she didnt fight back physically, or through the police its her own fault, and being beaten up is never an excuse to shoot someone and possibly kill them.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    Wow golden quote from 5cats article from the husband...

    When Alexander`s defense attorney asked him what he meant by "put my hand on her," Gray replied, "probably hit her. I got five baby mammas and I put my hands on every last one of them except for one

    She certainly knows how to pick a winner and then decides to breed not one but 5 women did this!! Humanity we`re f**ked!!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    That in itself should be a felony!
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    cops racist much?
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    @8bithero-Yea, Amuuuurica. Its a big place, so of course we got a some turds. We send them to florida and texas. But at least we aren`t a nation of limey, fog breathin, judgemental ass hats. Suck it Europe. Screw the Queen. USA, USA, USA!
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    dont bother turdburglar, there is a group here that uses every thread to bash the US, mostly european and canadien with few exceptions.
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    kingdomCome Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    same state, same law...different circumstances.
    >nothing of interest to see here
    Court Report
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    CrakrJak, just for the sake of discussion, "assault" in many states, is the causing of fear due to threatening actions. "Battery" is the touching and causing harm. So, you can assault someone by waving a knife at them in a threatening manner, aiming a gun at them in a threatening manner, etc., even without hurting them.
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    syke22 Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    I thought Zimmerman was convicted. Probably should follow this but it`s just another Casey Anthony or OJ
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    April 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    turdburglar

    We got that fog thing sorted ages ago. Good old pea-soupers, those were the days, what?
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    watched the first vid, at the end it says `justice for trayvon justice for Marrissa` well, if you believe that both cases are identical (which i don`t btw) then they both go free or are both convicted. You can`t have justice for both d*ck head.
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    tedbomb Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    that court report is good info kingdomcome. she also broke her no contact order after posting bail initially and attacked her husband. if i was on the jury and saw that i`d have voted guilty too
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    I really hate hearing about battered women, however in video 2 the ex said it was to prevent another beating. There is where my sympathy ran out. Any woman or man in an abusive relationship stays, he or she should get no sympathy. The 2 cases are different. she stayed in an abusive relationship and knew her husband was violent, Z didnt know who T was or what he was capable of. With that said, F off to all this poo and everyone involved to it
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    Another slow news day I presume.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    April 25, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    7 out of 10 women are battered. And here I`ve been eating mine plain all this time!
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    April 25, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    `You can`t have justice for both d*ck head.`


    What?
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    Armauld Female 30-39
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    April 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    Som-Tam, right now it`s the opposite way. I agree that the cases aren`t the same, but assuming they were Zimmerman is out walking around (and wasn`t arrested until the case got national attention) and this woman is jailed so that`s equally unfair.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    "Any woman or man in an abusive relationship stays, he or she should get no sympathy."

    It`s extremely easy to say this, but actually doing it is another story. Some people are naive enough to think they won`t do it again, and they become so emotionally and physically abused that they don`t feel like they actually can leave. Others don`t know what they`ll do if they leave because perhaps the abuser is the bread winner and they feel like they wont be able to support their kids. Or maybe they`re so afraid of the abuser that they`ll think it`ll get worse if they try to leave. etc
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    April 25, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    Stop talking about this zimmerman case bulltits! i don`t even know what it is!!
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    Ant0n Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    wait wait wait....she fired the gun at him AND his CHILDREN???? I think i`ve found your problem....
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 25, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    @Kingdomcome: OUTSTANDING report! Tons of yummy information there!

    @Armauld: She DID get bail! And the next day violated it, beat up her husband and got re-arrested. THAT is why she`s in custody, not race.

    Her "the garage door didn`t open" has not been duplicated, it worked before she ran there AND afterwards too.

    Yes it`s tragic that victems of spousal beatings (married or dating, male OR female) have such trouble leaving their abuser. However, shooting at him is one thing, his kids in the room is another, and violating your probation on DAY ONE to beat him up?

    Psycho-woman, cest ke say?
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    "I think whoever made the YT video truly thinks GZ is white..."

    hes white AND hispanic...how many times does this need to be said? white people are too racist or too ashamed to just admit he`s white...hispanics dont claim him cuz they don`t want that stain on their community...

    pick your balls off the ground and stop trying to avoid what you, as human beings love. drama.
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm
    @Zeegrr60: "Skytz-Europe-The Crusades,Nazis,Skinheads,Muslim terrorists....Yeah. And you lost 2 world wars."

    Wow. Just wow. Not sure if trolling, or just undereducated and ignorant.

    Crusades? Guess what, your ancestors may have fought in them. 11th to 13th century, long before Europeans set sail and colonized America.

    Skinheads do not equal Nazis. Read about their origins, there are tons of skinheads who stayed true to their roots and openly oppose nazism, fascism, racism etc.

    Muslim terrorists? Are you kidding me? No, seriously. Are you bloody kidding me? Do you seriously think muslim terrorists originate from Europe?

    "Yeah. And you lost 2 world wars." Where to begin...
    1. Europe is not a single country, genius. The Axis (Germany, Italy) lost the war. Rest of Europe won the war. That would be like saying USA lost the civil war.

    Continued:
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
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    April 25, 2012 at 10:11 pm
    Continued rant:

    2. Hey, guess who openly supported and supplied both sides (yes, Nazis as well) for profit?

    3. Can you count how many conflicts in the last 100 years alone has your nation started, provoked or got involved in? How many of them have you actually won? With how much civilian blood has it been paid for?

    @turdburglar: Again, Europe does not equal a single nation and by far not the UK.

    Although you get plus points for the idea of ushering idiots into one location. (were I a prick, I`d suggest you stole that idea from us as we`ve successfully done so in the 15th century ;) Meant pnly as a joke, but I kind of doubt it would be perceived as one.. )
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 10:18 pm
    SmagBoy: I noticed that in the court report, that was linked to below, that there was no mention of the `victim` strangling her. There was also information that she could`ve exited the house in other ways and that the `garage door didn`t work` excuse was false.

    Later she violated a court order of protection by going to the victims house.

    So her explanation, saying she was afraid for her life because of her husband, didn`t hold water with the judge.

    Thing is though, she shouldn`t be charged with 3 counts of aggravated assault, she only shot the gun once and even then she shot it into the ceiling, even though the victim claimed it was aimed at him.
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    PoopNoodle Male 40-49
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    April 25, 2012 at 11:10 pm
    He is free on bail you tool
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    patticakes Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2012 at 1:17 am
    Why, I am shocked. Shocked! Where is Jessie Jackson? Where is Al Sharpton?
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    April 26, 2012 at 1:59 am
    Not free, bail.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2012 at 5:18 am
    CrakrJak, she caused three people to fear death or significant harm. Thus the three-times charge of assault. No physical harm required. I wasn`t speaking to this case, only to the specificity and difference between "assault" and "battery" and why should be charged with assault without physically hurting anyone. :-) No argument from me, just talking about legal definitions. :-)
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2012 at 5:43 am
    hahaha i love the "your ancestors may have fought in them " argument, it makes the rest of your spew look almost logical
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2012 at 7:09 am
    It`s real easy to play Armchair Quarterback when you only have information on one side of the story. Of course the media knows the prosecutor cannot comment on the case so they know it`s going to be a one sided report.
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2012 at 7:59 am
    @yusuksomuch: Seeing as the crusaders comprised of Roman Catholics from all over Europe, that statement is not as unlikely as you`d have it seem.

    Other than that, go ahead and make my day. Disprove my statement.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2012 at 8:37 am
    God the left-wingers on I-A-B tend to be rather thick. Trayvon Martin`s killing has nothing to do wi8th "stand your ground".
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2012 at 8:57 am
    Zimmerman is "free"? Um...he`s been charged with murder. In case you missed that.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2012 at 8:59 am
    SmagBoy: The guy in the robbery prank caused "three people to fear death or significant harm."

    So why isn`t he being charged with 3 counts of aggravated assault? If all it took was the "fear of death or dying" then how the hell would a haunted house ever be able to operate?

    Since only one shot was fired, there should only be one charge, by my reckoning.

    Otherwise by your reckoning if she had fired 3 shots she`d be facing 9 counts.
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2012 at 11:52 am
    wait.. i`m confused. So she `stood her ground` but fired a shot in the air? did she actually shoot at the guy or just fire her gun randomly in the air?
    firing a warning shot isn`t standing your ground.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 26, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    For those who keep "missing it" the main reasons the SYG Law didn`t apply were:
    #1 She returned to the house, pistol in hand. The man did not stop her from leaving.
    #2 She DID get bail! And promptly violated it to assault & batter the man she `was terrified of`.
    #3 There were 3 charges, she cannot claim the children were also attacking her (depending on their ages).

    K-k? Completely different from ZvsM.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    well originlemming, what i find funny is that in your frenzy to bash all things American, you use examples of dbaggery that happened before America existed, by your logic you surely have relatives that fought for the US in vietnam and therefore it was a european act. Also you might take notice of the little"where from" areas next to the avi`s, they dont say germany or sweden or france, they say EUROPEAN you drating self righteous douchebag. so we are FORCED to lump you all together on this site so if you want to be recognized by a more detailed geography you should post it on your bio. all drating lemmings can suck big fat American balls. and drat you and whatever country you are from specifically.
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    @yusuksomuch: Not sure if trolling but I shall indulge you. Before you start calling names, go check your facts. I was quoting Zeegrr60 and giving him a response to his blatantly ignorant comment.

    I am not bashing as you insisted, I merely corrected his misconceptions. In your frenzy to bash everything European, you missed the fact I was not bashing in the first place.

    Act your age.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    whatever lemming boy, if what i quoted you didn`t say, then why did you respond to it? again, big sweaty American balls on you fragile hairless chin.
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2012 at 10:55 pm
    Wow. As you would say, obvious troll is obvious. Nope, not going to sink to your level, thank you for your time.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2012 at 3:19 am
    wait dont go, tell me more about how Americans caused the dark ages! what about how Americans killed jesus!!??? now i will never know :(
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    ExtraCredit Male 50-59
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    April 27, 2012 at 5:01 am
    SYG only works when you shoot and kill. Warning shots are for pussies.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2012 at 10:54 pm
    SYG only applies to light skinned people.

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