This Is What You`re Missing On TV, Part 309 [Pic]

Submitted by: eugenius 5 years ago in

Really? Wow.
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Male 1,737
....and the other 32% goes where?
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Female 2,602
I give up - it`s like trying to post on the first ever page on the internet.
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Female 2,602
@Fancylad: this website needs work. It`s incredibly easy to break the page when posting.
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Female 2,602
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MacGuffin: "I think I`d made the mistake that, because you`re gay, I somehow had you down as tolerant"

5Cats: "See @MacGuffin? EVERYBODY uses `racial` profiles every single day!"<<<


Let me get this right, 5cats. So, because *I* drew a conclusion about Gerry`s probable level of tolerance based on the fact he`s stated he`s *gay*, in your head that must mean that "everybody" uses racial profiles "every single day". Wouldn`t that statement only hold true if the small sample that is me could be extrapolated to draw conclusions about everyone else on the planet`s behaviour? And wouldn`t it also only hold true if being gay were equivalent to being part of a race?

Honestly, the sheer lack of coherence in some of your, Gerry`s and Crakr`s comments beggars belief. The lack of intelligence and logic in your comments, and the unsupportable nature of the conclusions you draw reminds me of
Male 37,815



Oh look: Bush years: under 30 million.
Obama years? OVER 40 million!
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Male 37,815
[quote]I think I`d made the mistake that, because you`re gay, I somehow had you down as tolerant[/quote]
See @MacGuffin? EVERYBODY uses `racial` profiles every single day!

[quote]I think the biggest oppressor of the black community is the black community.[/quote]
I totally agree @Draculya! And who commits most of the crime against blacks? Other blacks, that`s who!
So perhaps there`s 5X as many black men in jail because they commit 5X as many crimes? Food for thought, eh?
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Male 84
wow this statistic is very alarming, the fact that such a small minority represents such a high user of food stamps is a horrible statistic for african americans, its almost double the average of other races
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Male 39
now, go by basis of percentage of the population fitting each of the categories you see in this posting...
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Male 38,491


@ MacGuffin


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Female 1,478
Draculya, I agree with your second comment.

For my own comment.. I think.. that maybe.. employers are so often hiring a lot of people of races other than Caucasian.. to show that they don`t discriminate. Just saying.
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Female 2,602
Compare your opinion that there is no material racism in the USA today with your view that:

[quote]I`m a gay man who has been, more than once, the target of hate crimes. I`ve lived in places where it is illegal for me to exist.[/quote]

"Illegal to *exist*"? Really? Did they vapourise you, or did you just not get caught?

Or have you lived in Saudi Arabia, perhaps? Because I can`t find the US statute that makes it illegal to exist and be gay - show it to me, if *it* exists. If I were gay and reading your comments, I would be embarrassed that someone was misrepresenting my position in the way that you have done.

Talk about being a drama queen - "illegal to exist", FFS!! The only place it`s been illegal to exist recently in the US is in the sights of George Zimmerman`s gun if you`re a black child.
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Female 2,602
[quote]I haven`t said their isn`t racism.[/quote]

Yes you have:

[quote] Yes there is racial inequity in prison populations and people with educations. But you cannot assume that is due to racism. In my view it`s more of a cultural problem.

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As for "white privelage". A black man and I would start at the same salary at a Home Depot or any other company. Where`s the oppression?[/quote]
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Female 2,602
[quote]"United Negro College Fund is a private body" okay.. so is the KKK, are you okay with them?[/quote]
Honestly, Gerry, the crap points you make aren`t even worth commenting on, because they`re so unbelievably stupid. If you really need someone to tell you the difference between a private organisation that engages in *legal* activities like helping under-represented groups like black women get a college degree, and a private organisation that engages in *illegal* activities like racially-motivated murder and gun-running, you`re beyond debating with.

[quote]So you resort to name calling when you disagree with someone`s opinion and can`t make a logical case?[/quote]
No, I resort to describing what you are - a sexist and racist - based on your opinions. I stand by how I`ve described you (and I doubt any sane person reading your comparison of the KKK to the United College Negro Fund above could disagree).
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Male 14,835
I think the biggest oppressor of the black community is the black community. They call each other names that we can`t even type here, they perpetuate the stereotype of good uneducated, for nothing, criminal low-lifes at every opportunity. Even terms such as `brother` create a class barrier by creating a them-and-us mentality.
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Male 14,835
"What about the other 32%?"

Not the Asians or the Jews, I`d wager. They`re the ones paying for all the whites, black and latino`s stamps.
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Male 675
What about the other 32%?
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Male 38,491

@ faaaaq - yes, I have been. But up until the late 80s and early 90s it was still illegal in many states. Sodomy Laws.

@ everyone - I haven`t said their isn`t racism. Nor that it`s always an easy road. But if we`re holding out for universal acceptance we`ll be holding out breath a long time.

There will always be people that hate other people. But I don`t see it as an ingrained societal behavior anymore the way it used to be. That`s all I`m saying.
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Male 934
By the way, props to Gerry, and anti-props to MacGuffin.
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Male 934
Food for thought, white people account for 70% of the population, whereas black people account for 13%, so it`s not really surprising to people with brains and the ability to do basic math. Those are two things the average cable news viewer does not possess however.
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Male 694
Gerry1of1, im going to assume you have been out of the US, because nowhere in America is it illegal to be gay...
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Male 38,491
MacGuffin [quote] "you do just come across as a embittered sexist racist, angry at black people and women for daring to demand the same basic human rights as white males have enjoyed for a very long time" [/quote]
So you resort to name calling when you disagree with someone`s opinion and can`t make a logical case? You must have studied at the Jessie Jackson School of LIBERAL ARTS.

As for your sobbing over "white privelage"... I`m a gay man who has been, more than once, the target of hate crimes. I`ve lived in places where it is illegal for me to exist. So I have some insight into what constitutes "Oppression" and what doesn`t.

Are there racists...yes.
Is it institutionalized into a system of oppresion against People of Color?... No

I belive the black community needs to assess what is wrong within it`s own community that 50% of their young men will not graduate, but it`s not Whitey`s Fault anymore.
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Male 38,491
@MacGuffin - so many points to cover, I`ll be brief.

"United Negro College Fund is a private body" okay.. so is the KKK, are you okay with them? No? I don`t see any differance. Each organization is dedicated to promoting the advancement of a person based on their skin color.

Your interation marriage arrest example: You had to go back 45 years to find and example of oppression. So how is that oppression TODAY ?

I already discussed earlier the dispropotionate prison populations. You provide no evidence of racism or oppression.

As for me being gay, I am still tolerant. I am happy to live beside/work beside people of other races and faiths. That does not mean I have to buy into every liberal biased dumb idea. There was a huge problem in this country. Those times have changed. Is there still a problem? Sure, but it is not an ingrained system of oppression.
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Male 626
I meant 32%, sorry.
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Male 626
Is this what percentage of the population gets them, or the demographics of who gets them? If it is the latter, then who gets the other 42%?
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Male 554
racial inequity is a myth
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Female 2,602
As for the United Negro College Fund that you mentioned. That`s a privately-funded body. It can do what it likes – that`s not the state discriminating against whites.

You know, Gerry, I dread to say it, because I used to quite like reading your comments back when I was just a reader of IAB. I think I`d made the mistake that, because you`re gay, I somehow had you down as tolerant, even when you regularly made offensive comments about women and made me raise my eyes quite a bit with your seemingly closed-minded views on the Trayvon Martin shooting. Quite honestly, though, the more I read of what you write, you do just come across as a embittered sexist racist, angry at black people and women for daring to demand the same basic human rights as white males have enjoyed for a very long time.
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Female 2,602
I dread to even bring up the fact that a thug with a gun can apparently kill an unarmed black teenager, after being on record as pursuing that teenager rather than the teenager having approached him, then the police have the cheek to call it "standing his ground".

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Female 2,602
[quote">Now, back at you. Do you have evidence of oppression? Are there any parts of town blacks are not allowed to live in? Any businesses they must enter through the back door? Please... I`d love to see an example of actual, real "oppression".[/quote">

You mean evidence such as the fact that, in your lifetime, mixed race couples have been arrested and prosecuted in the USA under blatantly racist miscegenation laws? Or evidence such as the fact that black males are imprisoned in the USA at more than five times the rate of white males? :



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Female 220
@Vodoo, I agree 100%.
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Male 38,491

MacGuffin [quote"> "Have you any evidence that race and not need is a factor" [/quote">
NAACP ... the "CP" part
United NEGRO College Fund ... let me guess who the target recipient would be
The fact the State of California uses the phrase "People of Color"
Affirmative Action has no minimum employment % for white people

Here`s a link if you`d like to apply for a college grant Only Available to Black Women
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Now, back at you. Do you have evidence of oppression? Are there any parts of town blacks are not allowed to live in? Any businesses they must enter through the back door? Please... I`d love to see an example of actual, real "oppression".
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Male 25,416
meh.... i am not amused
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Female 2,602
[quote]@ MacGuffin - being `race based` at all is the very definition of `racist` isn`t it?[/quote]
No, "being race based" isn`t racist. Otherwise the World Cup would be racist. So would the Olympics, Britain`s NHS and the separate queue for American passport holders and the rest of the world at JFK. Like most situations in life, it`s only when you take context and intent into consideration that you can conclude whether something is or isn`t racist/sexist/homophobic. (E.g., if I used the word "n1gger", I`d be a racist; if a black rap artist used that same word in a lyric, they`d be being ironic).

[quote]How about education and financial assistance being based on economic need and not race instead of offering it to "people of color" ?[/quote]
Aren`t they? Have you any evidence that race and not need is a factor in the types of assistance you mentioned?
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Male 38,491

@ afanasei - Yes there is racial inequity in prison populations and people with educations. But you cannot assume that is due to racism. In my view it`s more of a cultural problem. Why is it half the black male teenagers in LA will not graduate. Their white counterparts will and it`s the same school system...the same books.

Can you blame white people as racist when hispanics and blacks join violent gangs or is more likely their own culture or community that lead them to that path?

No, I`m not saying they all end up that way. But statistically they`re more likely to than a white kid... Is it because CrakrJak and I oppressed them? No.

Or is it only themselves to blame? Time to own up and face our own responsability for our lot in life and stop blaming every other person.

As for "white privelage". A black man and I would start at the same salary at a Home Depot or any other company. Where`s the oppression?
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Male 450
I hate the term "African American". You are Black American if you must have a hyphen. My family is white from Africa they just call them selves American i am just American my friends who are from Kenya they are just American and they get upset when Black Americans call them selves African
@afanasei your full of bull
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Male 645
The second biggest group seems to be other at 32%. I say we should first get rid of the "other" problem. Then more foods stamps for us.
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Male 5
From the figures in the NAPR reports by the USDA in 2010 that this news article is based on and the population demographic figures from 2010
It can be seen that the percentage of each group that are in receipt of food stamps breaks down as follows
White 2.8%
African American 10.4%
Hispanic 6.9%
It should be noted that the racial group of 26% of the recipients are unknown and 6% falls in to other groups
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Male 2,737
How many whites are there in the US compared to blacks and hispanics?And four years of Obama,are you surprised?Go back to 2001 and lets see what the stats where.
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Male 1
@Gerry1of1
African-Americans and other people of color living in the US are absolutely living under a system of oppression -- it`s just a lot more subtle than the oppression of 40 or 50 years ago. The fact remains that, whether you or I like it or not, being born white in this country confers a certain, unearned privilege in daily interactions and in institutional interactions. Being born black, or as another ethnic minority, confers certain disadvantages in the same situations.

Affirmative action does not automatically provide a job for people of color, nor does it have a place in promotions, performance, or work ethic. What it does is open the door to people who have historically been shut out of certain industries and institutions.

If we truly had racial equality in the US, the racial makeup for a given institution should match the national average. As we see in work, schools, and prisons, this is seldom the case. There is a system of oppression running strong
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Male 3,842
Meaningless without base rate of the general population. If 40% of the population is white and 36% of the food stamp recipients are white, that is not a significant difference. Likewise if about 20% of the general population are black.

And the other 32% are "other" = Asian, Pacific Islander, Native American, etc.
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Male 37,815
[quote]Tell me that`s not racist.[/quote]
It IS RACIST @Gerry1! Against white folks that is!
Since now they`d be eligible for all those yummy hand-outs and special favours, but NO! They change the law so they can`t get them? Racist.
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Male 37,815
MSNBC: no facts allowed!

What does this `infographic` actually mean? Nothing! Zero! I hope the discussion about it provided some context for it, as @MacGuffin said: is it % of that population OR % of all food stamp users? I`d guess the latter, but the numbers seem way off.
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Female 2,549
Facts are inconvenient.
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Male 38,491

@ MacGuffin - being `race based` at all is the very definition of `racist` isn`t it?

How about education and financial assistance being based on economic need and not race instead of offering it to "people of color" ?
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Female 2,602
Back on the subject of the thread, these percentages really don`t mean very much unless you clarify what`s meant by the percentages. Is it 36% of Whites that get food stamps? Or is it 36% of the people who get food stamps that are White? Big difference.
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Male 3,445
"For now..."

I`m white and I don`t give a poo. Stop seeing the world that way.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Tell me that`s not racist.[/quote]
That`s not racist. That`s just finding a new label for a group once `minority` had been deemed to have become misleading. Not racist, but kind of dumb, because Hispanics must still have been a minority after they became the "largest percentage of the population", just the *biggest* minority, just like the Caucasians once were.
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Male 347
wow, that`s so suss..
I mean, they say "white" rather than the proper word, but then they say "african american"?

All this separating of people by their race is really counter-productive, IMO. (looking at the media, not you guys in the comments)
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Male 423
Gerry hit the nail on the head in his posts, only thing I think is counter-productive are the certain ethnicity or race schools, all they`re doing is segregating themselves from the rest of us.
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Male 1,803
What about the other 32% even
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Male 1,803
What about the other 42%
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Male 38,491

[quote]it won`t be much longer before whites are the minority. [/quote]
In California hispanics are the largest percentage of the population. When that happened, the California Assembly banned the use of the word "minority" from government use as it now applied to whites. They now use the phrase "people of color" instead. Which means anyone-but-white-people. Asians, hispanic, blacks, indians are all "people of color" but caucasians are not.

Tell me that`s not racist.
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Male 1,586
I`m with Gerry it has gotten to the point where being a middle class white man in America is a detriment. Also I think it won`t be much longer before whites are the minority.
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Male 1,399
Oh, well that`s okay then!

As long as most of the people hoovering up my tax dollars are WHITE, well then I`m perfectly fine with that.

Please.
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Female 1,566
"remember that the are more whites in the US, "

For now...
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Male 163
+1 @Gerry
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Male 38,491

"Blacks are oppresed" .... WERE oppresed, not `are`

Blacks in the US will receive race based assistance with;
-Housing with welfare and HUD
-Education with Blacks Only Colleges, the NAACP and other race based grants and low/no interest loans not available to whites
-Employment with affirmative action and "minority" hiring preferances.

Where is this oppression? "Oppression" is the opposite - denying employment or education based on their skin color.

If you mean some people won`t like you because of your skin color, then that`s not oppression. EVERYONE faces that. There are plenty of black men who don`t like white people. [cough]black panthers[cough]

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Male 3,612
remember that the are more whits in the US, so yes they are in the hightest percent of everything
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Male 536
Gerry got there first - but the point here isn`t that blacks have been and are oppressed - it is that this report was designed to skew statistics for a certain effect. What I think we are pointing out (can`t really speak for Gerry, though) is that this is a load of poo.
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Male 536
This isn`t saying that 36% of white people are getting food stamps, it is saying that 36% of food stamps portioned out are going to white people.

However, 72.4% of the country is white (63.7 white non-Hispanic), 12.6% black, and 16.3% Hispanic.

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Male 3,322
Gerry, of course a higher percentage of blacks are on welfare than whites. Blacks are still, to this day, oppressed because of the color of their skin. If you treat someone humanely, give them an education, and the resources to succeed from birth, they will be less likely to be on food stamps than someone you treat like a second class citizen and deprive them of the opportunities and resources they need to succeed. It has nothing to do with color or race.
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Female 357
Point: Gerry.
We have a weiner!
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Male 38,491

That`s percentage of recipients, but how does that reflect on per capita?

Whites 72% of population
Blacks 13%
Hispanit 16%
according to 2010 US Census

So in a 1-1 racio, then blacks should only be 13% of welfare recipients instead they are almost twice as likely to receive welfare at 22%.

Hispanics receive a lower racio at only 10% receiving welfare. The Census only counts bodies, not legal status so I`d guess they aren`t eligable to receive welfare in many states. California {where I live} of course doesn`t care about such petty things as breaking immegration law. Which is why 51% of those on welfare in California are hipanic. Accoding to US Dept of Health.
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Female 836
I know many, many, MANY white people on food stamps. No "Hispanic" about it.
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Female 836
Yep.
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Female 357
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Male 1,620
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