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96 Responses to Mormons On Science And The Big Bang Theory

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    April 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    Link: Mormons On Science And The Big Bang Theory - Mormon Apostle Russel M. Nelson on the origins of life.
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    i love these people and people like them try and use inanimate objects in comparison to biological life
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    frenchroast Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    To the creationists: if wondrous and complex entities need to be created by a specific creator, then who created this creator? It didn`t arrive by chance, did it? Saying it was always there, defeats the foundation of the need of a creator.
    Just say you don`t know, it`s humbling.
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    Doorman Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm
    The problem of this world rests in religion.. unfortunately.. or not..
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm
    Uh oh science, watch out!
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    forestq Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    I hate when I-a-b posts things like this only to mock. Where`s your accepting behavior when it comes to religion. I thought the whole point of being liberal was to be more open minded, yet when there`s something you disagree with, you refuse to tolerate it at all. Yeah, lets mock anyone who believe`s something different than us and see where that gets us in the future...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    As much as I know these "creationists" are utterly wrong, I still have to wonder:

    @frenchroast: Where did the `big bang` come from?

    What happens after we die?

    Science has yet to answer those questions, eh?
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    Well, if you were gonna vote for Rick Sanitarium, this`ll make it a tough choice. (unless you`re "sanctity of marriage" voter, then of course, Newt`s your guy)
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    forestq Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    It was fun i-a-b, but I`m done here. Not that anyone cares, just letting you know that not everyone follows the crowd aimlessly.
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    frenchroast Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    @5Cats
    Big Bang - I don`t know, but very smart people are working on it.
    Once you die - so far it looks like the same as before you lived; nothing. I`ve accepted that. Enjoy your life while it`s here!
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    forestq: "I thought the whole point of being liberal was to be more open minded,"

    I`ll only speak for myself, but I`m very open-minded about God, and faith. I have felt His guidance, and have witnessed miracles. However, I do take offense at those that claim that either they`re religion is better than others, or that it belongs in government. We are not some third-world Theocracy. Also, how is it not p[ossible that God created the "big bang"? There is certainly no evidence to confirm that we on Earth are the only creatures of God.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    ugh kill me
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 1, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @ forestq - I don`t think IAB has ridiculed anyone with this. I think it quite literally "speaks for itself". If you found it rediculous, well that`s the result of what he was saying, not IAB.

    Other times, yes there have been posts just to poke fun at religion. This wasn`t one though.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    5cats: "Science has yet to answer those questions, eh?"

    True that, but they`ve tried. There are people who have essentially "died" ( on the operating table, etc) who were revived, and stated that the basically saw "the light". Some scientists claim it`s just a series of dynapes or whatever misfiring (or something like that) as a natural part of dying, while others acknowledge the possibilty of the afterlife, or Heaven. I`m willing to accept the latter, but I do find it interestinf that you never hear of anyone saying they thought they were on their way to Hell. Hmmm....that lack of testimony can`t be good for the fundies.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    Wow, as an agnostic I`d never considered that. You win.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    forestq, there`s a difference between being tolerant of different beliefs, and letting people spew nonsense and corrupt the masses without questioning. Believe whatever you want, but when you bring real science into the picture, it only makes sense for your "beliefs" to be challenged. They are free to say and believe whatever they want, just like we`re free to refute their claims.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    5Cats, I don`t know enough about the big bang to answer your first question, but scientists do know what happens after we die. We rot and decompose. :P
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:06 pm
    Oh...and one more thing...science has theories based on facts and numbers. Religion has theories based on personal accounts and...well, pure faith.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    Ok, now that religion and the big bang theory has come up...who else feels like a big dube is in order?
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    frenchroast Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:16 pm
    jtrebowski....are you ....Bill Maher?!!
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    I see your doobie and raise you a bong
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    We rot and decompose. :P
    Um, thanks?

    @jt: It`s bedtime for me. I thought you said: big DUDE...


    (All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku)
    (I hope to dream of her ;-))
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    perviggo Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    what, does he believe in the invisible cloud people?
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    @jtrebowski
    "I do find it interestinf that you never hear of anyone saying they thought they were on their way to Hell."

    Well you just haven`t been paying attention. There are a lot of people who have described going to hell after dying and coming back.

    Here are just a few of them that are on YouTube:

    Atheist Professor desibes going to hell

    Heart Attack victim describes hell

    Gunshot victim describes hell
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    DinVen Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:41 pm
    Wouldn`t it be interesting if Romney won?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    Religion is neither excuse from, nor the solution for, ignorance.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    I hate when I-a-b posts things like this only to mock. Where`s your accepting behavior when it comes to religion.

    I accept things that are harmless to others. Religion isn`t one of those things.

    I might still mock things I would accept as someone else`s personal beliefs, if they are very silly beliefs that contradict evidence and reasoning. So religion qualifies on that count too.

    Why should religion uniquely be exempt from mockery for its silliness and condemnation for the harm it causes?

    Why should religion automatically be granted respect?

    We don`t respect, for example, a person who believes that the Twilight books are a true account of reality and that they are in telepathic communication with the vampires who have chosen them as part of their plan to come out into the open, blah blah blah.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    @frenchroast: Nope. Believe it or not, he`s an even bigger prick than I am.

    AgentSmith: All in.

    5cats: Pleasant dreams. I believe I`ll now have some as well :-)
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    Mr. Peabody: I wish i could comment on your links, but it`s just too damn late for me to read them now, so check back tomorrow morning. I`m intrigued tho.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm
    Where did the `big bang` come from?

    I don`t know.

    What happens after we die?

    I don`t know.

    Look at that - I admitted that I don`t know something. Twice. It didn`t kill me. It isn`t dreadfully difficult. It isn`t necessary to bend over backwards to avoid it by calling your lack of knowledge "god" and worshipping it.

    Science has yet to answer those questions, eh?

    And scientists don`t claim they have answered them. They are looking for answers that explain the observed evidence and acknowledging the scope of their knowledge.
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    EbScrooge Male 18-29
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    Don`t be so quick to dismiss this man as an idiot. He is a cardio-thoracic surgeon who helped develop the first heart-lung device and performed it`s first successful usage in Utah. He is definitely not ignorant of the sciences.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    Mormons are mostly harmless.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 9:59 pm
    There are people who have essentially "died" ( on the operating table, etc) who were revived, and stated that the basically saw "the light" I do find it interestinf that you never hear of anyone saying they thought they were on their way to Hell.

    What people "see" in those circumstances is based on their socialisation. Our brains always stitch inputs together to match preconceived patterns - it`s how they`re wired. Very few people think, deep down in their subconcious, that they are evil. So the inputs from oxygen deprivation and impending death are interpreted into a pattern that matches what they`ve been told is a better afterlife. Either that or it`s just stimulation of the optical centre of the brain, which of course results in "seeing" light.

    It`s not evidence either way.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:02 pm
    jtrebowski: Actually there have been a few people that`ve claimed to have claimed afterlife experiences in which they were sent to hell.

    Needless to say, they are believers now and at least one has written a book about their experience. haven`t looked it up or know the title, it`s been awhile since I heard of it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm
    Oh...and one more thing...science has theories based on facts and numbers. Religion has theories based on personal accounts and...well, pure faith.

    And they`re using *completely* different meanings for the same word - `theory`.

    It`s deceptive to use the same word that way. Religious beliefs cannot ever in any way be theories in the scientific (original) meaning of the word, because they are irrational, unrepeatable and non-falsifiable. Any one of those three would be enough to exclude them.
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    Giardia Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm
    My brain is overloaded with "what? what? what????" after hearing this clip. This man has a pedigree as a cardiac and thoracic surgeon a mile long that goes back over a 50+ year career.

    Whatever. His beliefs, and he is welcome to them.
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    deathcab4aj Female 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    How old is this video? I have to say I know a lot of Mormons (maybe 20 or so) and all of them say they believe in evolution...never asked about the big bang theory. I can`t say that I agree with everything about the mormon church, but the mormons I do know are very nice,open-minded,non-judgmental people.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:43 pm
    At his age, I`ll bet he goes for a new (different) `flu shot every year. And so he should.

    Cognitive dissonance your way out of that one, old-timer.
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    mon360 Male 13-17
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:50 pm
    how do we know the big bang actually happened? i don`t think we have proof of anything in our existence so there is no use in arguing!
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    Giardia Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 10:53 pm
    I agree with you, Deathcab. I was born and raised in the LDS Faith. I also attended BYU for a year (I was forced into it by my parents. They pay, but you go there). Yes, many of LDS members are as you describe.

    However, it was the constant drivel like this that drove me off from all organized religion. Well, that and the particular Ward (aka local church) my family went to. It was basically the Ward where the Elders (church leaders) would dump off their problematic families, and Elders.

    Gee... this sounds vaguely familiar to .... hhhmmm... I can`t put my finger on it. (*sarcasm*)

    Not all LDS members or Churches are bad/crazy/hypocritical. Maybe I had the bad luck to be in a horrid Ward. IDK, and I do not care. I am happy now in my own beliefs.

    It just blows my mind that the LDS Church has leaders with massive professional pedigrees in technical fields still parrot the same thing I heard 25 years ago before I split for good.

    TL:DR = Think fo
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 11:21 pm
    The fact that so many people have a conscience and the desire to do or be "good" is reason enough to consider the idea that there is more to our world than what we can prove.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    April 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm
    I wish people would stop saying "believe in evolution." It`s like confirming that you believe in gravity or believe in the electromagnetic spectrum. There`s no "belief," no faith involved. They, like evolution, are facts that require only your learning and comprehension.
    Creationism requires your absolute belief in something that has no tangible basis whatsoever.
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    PvtDeth Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 11:38 pm
    Not noteworthy.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 1, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Near death experiences are not `dead`. It`s `NEAR`.
    Life and death are absolutes.
    "Near Death" is like "Near Pregnant".

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    April 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm
    Gerry, if there was a "like" button, I`d be hitting yours right now buddy.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 12:02 am
    LOL @ the Atheist Teacher link Mr. Peabody posted! SO DAMN FAKE AND SET UP!

    I watched the other 2 and I gotta say -- the gun shot victim was hilarious. It`s a retard on a local christian cable program telling a horribly fake story.

    The Heart Attack Victim - MY time was up. I knew my time was up. You never know when your time is up. It will be up. I just knew my time was up.
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 12:08 am
    But with trillions upon trillions of explosions, your bound to end up with something, maybe not a dictionary, probably more like a Dr. Seusse book.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 12:14 am
    "Mormons are mostly harmless."

    Unless you are gay.
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 12:24 am
    Any healing comes from obedience of God. And paracetamol. And penicillin. And vaccines. And antibodies. And the immune system.

    Through the prayer of vaccines and the repent of tetracyclines God will remove all your problems! It`s simple logic!
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    eovogt Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 1:24 am
    very primitive
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    youlikeicecr Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 1:57 am
    Morons on science. There fixed that for you.
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    youlikeicecr Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 1:58 am
    "Near death experiences are not `dead`. It`s `NEAR`. " -- and often not near enough!
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    youlikeicecr Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 2:02 am
    @mon360

    here, let Dr Yan explain for you ...
    How do we know the big bang happened?
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 2:18 am
    what morons...uh Mormons...no wait I had it right the first time.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 2:58 am
    I`m I supposed to be shocked because a Pastor used a crappy analogy? I`m pretty sure this isn`t the first time it`s happened.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 3:14 am
    Religion thrives on the ignorance of believers.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 3:27 am
    Moron mormon.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 3:30 am
    "What happens after we die?

    Science has yet to answer those questions, eh?"

    Faith gives no answer either.
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 3:32 am
    idiot... religion is a funny thing and attracks a lot of clowns...
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 3:56 am
    I like Tyson`s reported quote. "The great thing about science is, whether you believe in it or not, it`s true."
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    skytz1337 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 4:39 am
    this is funny ..cuz i call my man-part god =)
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 4:41 am
    Wonder if they prefer sheldon or leonard.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 5:09 am
    CrakrJak: "jtrebowski: Actually there have been a few people that`ve claimed to have claimed afterlife experiences in which they were sent to hell. "

    And after hearing so many stories of people claiming to "see the light", I suppose if that happened to me, I`d become quite the zealot. lol.
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    10Bears Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 am
    @carmium "...They, like evolution, are facts that require only your learning and comprehension."

    It`s this dogmatic unrelenting view that religious people are accused of, yet most atheists these days are going down the same path. Let`s be honest about this, nobody was there when the universe was created, so everything we propose is nothing more than a proposition. All parties in any discussion of this nature would do well to remember this.
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    10Bears Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 5:33 am
    I don`t quite understand why this video is worth ridiculing...
    "Man stands up and says he finds it hard to believe that such complexity could have come from nothing".
    Every well read evolutionist feels exactly the same way. We are insanely complex beings, and whether by God, or by evolution, or by any other method, we should still remain in awe of our complexity. Don`t let the simplicity of the evolution theory take this away from you.
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    youlikeicecr Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 5:36 am
    "Every well read evolutionist feels exactly the same way. We are insanely complex beings, and whether by God, or by evolution, or by any other method, we should still remain in awe of our complexity. Don`t let the simplicity of the evolution theory take this away from you."

    Not true, many who believe that evolution is far too simple an explanation for the complexity we see all around usually cannot comprehend the vast scale of time that this simple process occurs within.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 6:45 am
    I have to wonder if we don`t have two groups of humans on this planet. Those who have evolved to be intelligent and aware and those who remain incapable of that level of awareness. A group who`s comprehension of scale is so drastically limited that it`s just beyond their capacity to understand it.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 6:50 am
    Sigh. Unless you religious ass-clowns are physicists, why don`t you STFU about the Big Bang and the origins of the universe. Intelligent people don`t give a drat what you believe about your magic invisible sky-man.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 2, 2012 at 6:54 am

    You could use that a lot of ways.

    Could an explosion in a pizza parlour produce a calzone?
    Could an explosion on a ranch produce a hamburger?
    Could an explosion in a Lego factory produce BatMan?

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    003067 Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 7:16 am
    Just because we can`t comprehend something, or we don`t know how something came to be, it doesn`t automatically mean that it was of divine power, God, Allah, or whatever. It means we need to go read a book and learn something about said subject.
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    Toomuchcoffe Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 7:21 am
    I believe in the holy mother board, and that we are all just a computer simulation.
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    Wundt Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 7:43 am
    This doesn`t bother me, it is sad, but what he says in church is his business.

    What does bother me is that EVERY Republican presidential candidate says they do not believe in evolution. If you cannot accept 100 years of science as fact, and if you do not have the balls to tell your conservative base they are wrong on an issue, how can we expect you to make good decisions as our president.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 7:52 am
    I`m not sure what the problem is here.

    He was not trying to convert you to his way of thinking, he is preaching to other Mormons on what they believe.

    You don`t have to agree with everything and other people don`t have to agree with you.

    He said nothing wrong here for the audience he was talking to, why is this posted?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 8:17 am
    Why is it that these preaching fools assume that immediately after an explosion there are fully formed people walking around a planet with habitable atmosphere? Hint: they don`t think the Earth is billions of years old.
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 8:23 am
    "He said nothing wrong here for the audience he was talking to, why is this posted?"

    Same reason every other stupid person being stupid is posted here. Because he is using stupid logic, in glorious high-fi. It`s time people preaching stipidity to the stupid be ridiculed openly.

    If society is ever to move forward instead of constantly backwards from the laws these kinds of people force down our throats.
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    jsnider81 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 8:53 am
    I think he knows something about science:

    Positions and awards
    President of the Thoracic Surgical Directors Association
    President of the Society for Vascular Surgery
    President of the Utah State Medical Association
    Director of the American Board of Thoracic Surgery
    Chairman of the Council on Cardiovascular Surgery for the American Heart Association
    Chairman of the Division of Thoracic Surgery at the LDS Hospital
    Vice-chairman of the board of governors at the LDS Hospital
    "Citation for International Service", American Heart Association
    "Heart of Gold Award", American Heart Association
    "Golden Plate Award", American Academy of Achievement
    "Distinguished Alumni Award", University of Utah

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._... rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold; color: " target="_blank" href=
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    FAKEBACON Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 8:56 am
    BILL NYE!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 9:08 am
    @jsnider: Heart surgeon =/= scientist. He would have biochemistry courses under his belt, but those would not have dealt with abiogenesis.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 9:57 am
    This whole video gets automatically discredited after the word "Mormon"
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 9:57 am
    I`d say everyone`s body has come from a "big bang."

    If you get my drift.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 10:09 am
    an explosion in a print shop could produce a book if, over millions and millions of years, the groups of letters that don`t form words are thrown away (die out). The main thing creationists can`t understand is the power of millions and millions of years. All their arguments are only valid if there is too little time for something complicated to happen.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 10:15 am
    "The fact that so many people have a conscience and the desire to do or be "good" is reason enough to consider the idea that there is more to our world than what we can prove.`

    All of those realizations are simply a higher level of survival instincts. Animal families protect each other so are they religious or do they recognize that it`s to their own best interest to protect their numbers?
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 10:17 am
    "Don`t be so quick to dismiss this man as an idiot. He is a cardio-thoracic surgeon who helped develop the first heart-lung device and performed it`s first successful usage in Utah. He is definitely not ignorant of the sciences."

    would you let an astronomer or a physicist operate on you? The sciences aren`t interchangeable and a doctor doesn`t necessarily know more than a plumber on this subject.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    April 2, 2012 at 10:57 am
    I`ve not seen many cancer patients being cured by a quick bible read lately.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 10:59 am
    did he rule out the big bang? he said it would be highly unlikely for that to happen. still leaving a small margin of possibility. What he was talking about was the random healing of damaged things.
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    JDplaysFF Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 11:04 am
    I don`t know, with things like cancer and auto-immune diseases, it seems to me that if an all-powerful divine being designed the human body, he really didn`t give it his all. But then, it was his last day before his vacation.
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    TheShmoo Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 11:13 am
    As a guy who works in a printers i`m accustomed to causing massive explosions, and granted no dictionaries have come about from this. But having said that I haven`t worked in the printers for 14 billion years I`m not going to dismiss the chances of me creating a walking, talking, thinking dictionary if I had the time.x
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 11:27 am
    The printing reference is a terrible analogy since all the very early universe had was simple elements.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    April 2, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    I hate the all!!!!!!!!!! So stupid and closed minded
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    April 2, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    meh... science, religion, all the same arguements.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    April 2, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    Correction: There is only one M in "Mormon".
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    kittilia Female 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 9:01 pm
    Does this guy listen to himself?
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    EbScrooge Male 18-29
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    April 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    lauriloo
    I agree with you completely, but I think I was misunderstood. It`s obvious from these comments that people hear this speaker and quickly dismiss him as an idiot. Clearly, a cardio-thoracic surgeon as decorated as him is not an idiot. I didn`t mean to imply that the sciences are interchangeable, only that he is not ignorant of them.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    April 3, 2012 at 6:36 am
    An explosion in a print factory would not produce a dictionary. That`s true. Nor would a hurricane in a scrap-yard produce a 747, a commoner analogy.

    But evolution works through random mutation and natural selection. Either this guy does not know this and he is, at best, ignorant or he does know it and is being dishonest. We have established that he has a sound career in medicine, so dishonest is looking likely.
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    aikiman Male 40-49
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    April 4, 2012 at 11:38 am
    @Nooni: Read up on Constructal Law; evolution is not exclusive to life.

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