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226 Responses to Monday, April 9: Natl Day For Trayvon Martin [Pic]

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    fancylad Male 30-39
    18853 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Link: Monday, April 9: Natl Day For Trayvon Martin - No school, no work, no shopping. Organized by the New Black Panthers. The cross hairs on Zimmerman concerns me.
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
    606 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:20 am
    drat that. Trayvon Martin wasn`t a civil rights leader, he wasn`t a humanitarian, he wasn`t even a particularly decent human being. (ex. his "Gangsta" facebook pictures) On April 9th, go about your day as usual. The world will keep on turnin`.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Gawd, we are a stupid, stupid people.
    The downfall of the U.S. is obviously the "survival of the fittest" theory in action. We don`t deserve to continue.
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    rncotton Male 30-39
    417 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:23 am
    So it would be a good day for me to go shopping without having to deal with the crowds. Yay.
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    Beauxner Male 30-39
    68 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:23 am
    So a bunch of african americans won`t be working or going to school that day. How will this be different from any other day?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:26 am
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:26 am
    Going to be a rough day for the spinning rim and chicken wing industries.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:27 am
    I`m not on Zimmerman`s side on this, but this poster goes too far. It`s tantamount incitement to violence and fancy and IAB should be prosecuted for it.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:27 am
    "Going to be a rough day for the spinning rim and chicken wing industries."

    ok this is racist and stereotyping, that being said it was funny as hell
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:27 am

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    Apexs Male 30-39
    355 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:27 am
    I am so sick of this.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:32 am
    What gets me is why the black panthers havent been arrested yet? Anyone else would have been prosecuted by now.

    And i love how theyre using a very old pic of zimmerman, who looks NOTHING like that anymore.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:34 am
    so if you stereotype a people that is not a racist act?...damn this is confusing, can we just make up a new word that covers everything? I will try to use that word more responsibly in the future.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:36 am
    The Black Panthers need a better graphic artist.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:40 am
    The Black Panthers have a pretty good graphic artist on staff, but he was busy airbrushing dollar signs on his bright purple 1997 Crown Victoria.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:41 am
    New Black Panthers are stupid.

    But guys, stop calling Trayvon Martin a "gangsta thug." He was a kid. There are plenty of teens who act that way in their pics, but it doesn`t mean they`re in a gang. I remember kids acting that way when I was Trayvon`s age.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:42 am
    >>>I`m not on Zimmerman`s side on this, but this poster goes too far. It`s tantamount incitement to violence and fancy and IAB should be prosecuted for it.<<<

    LOL! I mean, it`s ridiculous, but yeah, it could really happen these days in the "Land of the Free". I mean, if a legal system is corrupt enough to lock up a human rights lawyer for holding a press conference, meanwhile that same legal system lets child-murdering war criminals go free, who knows what other abuses it`s capable of?
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:42 am
    "The Black Panthers have a pretty good graphic artist on staff, but he was busy airbrushing dollar signs on his bright purple 1997 Crown Victoria."

    I don`t have to feel bad for laughing at this because it is not racist.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:46 am
    Look out. The KKK squad of IAB have donned their hoods and are about to start burning crosses.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:47 am
    I make jokes about white people too. Usually about margarine and Volvos.

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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:47 am
    Wait a sec. Where the drat did my post go?

    Someone`s deleting perfectly okay posts again. I wonder who it could be?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:48 am
    No Yusuk. It`s stereotyping, and that is OKAY! lol
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:48 am
    hmmm.. think I`m gonna go head and reserve the other 364 days for other `justice days.` I`m gonna make june 13th a justice day for my friend who was so viciously assaulted in high school. Reason, the color of his skin. Yep. He was white.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:49 am
    "I remember kids acting that way when I was Trayvon`s age."

    ...and they were thugs!
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
    598 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:50 am
    so are we suppose to shoot the latino guy to help protect our minorities?
  26. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:54 am
    ok this is racist and stereotyping, that being said it was funny as hell
    Lets remember you said that, a bit later on in the thread when you`re trying portray yourself as a reasonable, impartial observer rather than the racist moron that you actually are.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:54 am
    The crosshairs are over the line. Demand a trial--that`s fair and just. But don`t suggest more violence as a salve for Zimmerman`s actions.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
    3338 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:54 am
    people die very day
    so how cares any more about Trayvon
  29. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:55 am
    "Lets remember you said that, a bit later on in the thread when you`re trying portray yourself as a reasonable, impartial observer rather than the racist moron that you actually are."

    laugh at something funny and you are a moron? I bet your home life is just full of smiles.
  30. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:56 am
    "...and they were thugs!"

    No, acting gangsta in front of a camera is something that kids do when they reach that age. Seriously, I can`t believe you guys are attacking a dead kid`s character because he tried to act gangsta in a few pictures. That is just despicable.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:57 am
    The crosshairs are over the line. Demand a trial--that`s fair and just. But don`t suggest more violence as a salve for Zimmerman`s actions.

    Violence is what happens when a large body of people don`t get the justice they were promised. If the authorities want to prevent sentiment like this, they should get off their arses and investigate this alleged offence properly. And that investigation should start with the person accused of this very serious offence being detained on remand.
  32. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:57 am
    Would this be a really bad time to suggest a dance line ala Soul Train?
  33. Profile photo of tedgp
    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:57 am
    Change the word promised with wanted macguffin
  34. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:58 am
    I would just like to point out to the people who always complain on these threads that black people are never prosecuted for hate crimes, that 7 black teens here in California were arrested on hate crimes charges the other day.
  35. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:58 am
    @boredfrank, you are ON FIRE!!!
  36. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 8:59 am
    laugh at something funny and you are a moron? I bet your home life is just full of smiles.
    Actually, I believe it was something that, in your own words, was "racist and stereotyping" that you were laughing at. I bet your home life is full of white sheets and burning crosses. Idiot.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:00 am
    @fools you do know he was a small time dealer right?
  38. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:00 am
    Zimmerman put the cross hairs on Trayvon and that didn`t concern you? Some wanna-be cop with a gun claiming to protect the neighborhood became judge, jury and executioner and walks the earth free as a bird but cross-hairs on him "concern you"? I wouldn`t care one whit if Zimmerman received the punishment he doled out, at least it would be justified.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:02 am
    To be honest, im not surprised this happened with a country FOUNDED on racism and violence.
  40. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:02 am
    MacGuffin, are you also incensed that implied a more than casual relationship between caucasians, margarine, and Volvos?

    If so, I`m glad I didn`t mention mayonnaise!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:02 am
    Change the word promised with wanted macguffin

    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    I don`t remember anyone saying "please" or mitigating the demand for justice with "if that`s OK with you" in the above legally-promised statement of intent.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:03 am
    A pacifist approach to protest their views is great but it`s so conflicting with the $1m bounty and cross-hairs. I don`t see how a bounty isn`t illegal as a direct threat since it involves paying someone to abduct an otherwise free man (atm). That is directly funding crime and vigilantism which is supposed to be what they are mad about. Humans are so good at turning a blind eye in their interests one moment and calling for blood the next.
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    fancylad Male 30-39
    18853 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:04 am
    "Draculya: I`m not on Zimmerman`s side on this, but this poster goes too far. It`s tantamount incitement to violence and fancy and IAB should be prosecuted for it."

    What the F are you talking about? I didn`t design that poster nor did I organize this protest. Jesus, shoot the messenger, why don`t you. I pointed out that the cross hairs were excessive.
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    greencantina Male 30-39
    28 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:04 am
    It`s only a lynch mob if the target is black.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:05 am
    @macguffin. NOBODY in power takes heed of the constitution unless it suits them for a purpose. I mean c`mon, when a politician doesnt agree with it, they call it an amendmant. Not to mention that each state can make its own laws.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:06 am
    "Actually, I believe it was something that, in your own words, was "racist and stereotyping" that you were laughing at. I bet your home life is full of white sheets and burning crosses. Idiot."

    genius,moron,idiot racist, you can tell all of this from a few posts, wow, why are you not in charge of everything again?
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:09 am
    tedgp: If you`re referring to one of the details hacked by the white supremacists, I probably have not paid attention to it. But again, small time dealing could mean selling pot to your friends. Again, that`s kid stuff. So are you saying that kids deserve to get shot by some random guy because they mug gang signs at a camera and sell pot? How many of you, your friends, or your kids would be subject to that thinking?

    Come on guys, none of that has any bearings on this case. He had a legitimate reason to be in the community. It`s not like he was there to sell drugs or steal TVs.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:09 am
    @madest, oh I see, you`re playing Liberal Media! I`ll play Conservative Media and say "Well-respected business man with a gun, nominated by his peers to be the head of Neighborhood Watch, helped out again by keeping an eye on a suspicious character until said character became aggressive and violent and Zimmerman was forced to take lethal action in self defense." Then we can all continue the IAB circlejerk and speculate about a situation where details both make the case and are something we do not posses.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:10 am
    I don`t see how a bounty isn`t illegal as a direct threat since it involves paying someone to abduct an otherwise free man (atm). -----------
    We had a bounty on OBL and he was free for 10 years. You never said a word about bounties being illegal then. This is justified because it took a public outcry for officials to step in and replace the seeming racist actions of Florida justice. If there was no outcry an invisible murderer would walk amongst us knowing he could get away with it.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:12 am
    If madest is the Liberal Media and leesah is FOX News, can I be Saturday Night Live?
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:13 am
    "If there was no outcry an invisible murderer would walk amongst us knowing he could get away with it."

    Wait -- the dude is INVISIBLE? Holy crap!
  52. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:14 am

    If we are wondering why the police arent taking action,
    Then how about why they havent arrested the men who ON NATIONAL TELEVISION solicited the kidnapping of George Zimmerman when they offered a $1,000,000 bounty for his "capture".

    Let`s see an arrest there. Oh, it`s a black leader, i.e. immune.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:17 am
    Zimmerman put the cross hairs on Trayvon and that didn`t concern you? Some wanna-be cop with a gun claiming to protect the neighborhood became judge, jury and executioner and walks the earth free as a bird but cross-hairs on him "concern you"? I wouldn`t care one whit if Zimmerman received the punishment he doled out, at least it would be justified.

    You`re so pathetic. You refuse to wait for the whole story, you cry murder on the man, then call for murder of your own instead of seeking justice through the accepted system of law. All under the claim that the system has failed despite the fact it hasn`t concluded. They are investigating the DA who left to make sure there wasn`t foul play and everything. It`s at work and the system takes time. I get he distinct feeling it wouldn`t matter if someone came out with a video of the whole thing that clearly showed Zimmerman within the law you would simply say the law itself is wrong and call for blood all the
  54. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:17 am
    "if madest is the Liberal Media and leesah is FOX News, can I be Saturday Night Live?"

    you got my vote

    "What the F are you talking about? I didn`t design that poster nor did I organize this protest. Jesus, shoot the messenger, why don`t you. I pointed out that the cross hairs were excessive."

    might be wrong, but i took draculya`s comment to be sarcastic

    "US
    5458 Posts Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:10:48 AM
    I don`t see how a bounty isn`t illegal as a direct threat since it involves paying someone to abduct an otherwise free man"

    change "free" to "not charged" I want to see how madest plays that one
  55. Profile photo of PinkRhoid
    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:19 am
    same.
    Why I try I try to take the time to reason with a person or persons who would condemn murder and then justify it in the same statement is beyond me, it`s clear what kind of person you are.

    I for one hope the blind truth is found and that justice is served based on it instead of picking sides and rooting for your favorite team as it seems is happening here.
  56. Profile photo of tedgp
    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:19 am
    @fools. Its not hacked when his friends were asking on his private facebook and one of his "friends" also sent a text message from him to the press, which was investigated and found to be true.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:20 am
    "Wait -- the dude is INVISIBLE? Holy crap!"

    this is speculation and stereotyping of invisible people as wanton killers(not racist or invisibilitist though) and i do not find this funny so i can continue to represent myself as impartial
  58. Profile photo of tedgp
    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:20 am
    @leesah that has got to be the most level headed comment on here!
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    ilurk Female 18-29
    220 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:21 am
    I also heard of "Black Friday" where every friday they propose that not a single thing is bought until Zimmerman is in jail. I am a small business owner and think that is complete poo.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:22 am
    We had a bounty on OBL and he was free for 10 years. You never said a word about bounties being illegal then. This is justified because it took a public outcry for officials to step in and replace the seeming racist actions of Florida justice. If there was no outcry an invisible murderer would walk amongst us knowing he could get away with it.

    I guess the part about "otherwise free man" eluded you. As of yet they haven`t felt they have the evidence to hold Zimmerman. OBL was a wanted fugitive and war criminal with overwhelming evidence. A private bounty not backed by an authority of some type on a man not yet convicted or proven guilty is different just a hair but I guess I wouldn`t expect you to see that either. You`re seriously scary the way you judge absolutely and yet justify so haphazardly your own idea of justice.
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    drifter2000 Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:23 am
    no school, no work... Sounds like any other day to most of the people supporting this crap cause.
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    MattyP Male 18-29
    197 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:23 am
    I just like how shopping is up there with school and work.



    And how self righteously butt hurt everyone gets over racial topics.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:23 am
    I see right through your pretense of impartiality, yusuk!

    You`re as transparent as an Invisible. Damn, that was stereotyping. Okay, um, something about pronouncing the letter L and being Chinese. No harm in that, surely.
  64. Profile photo of FoolsPrussia
    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:26 am
    @tedgp: Again, that`s not the point. It still doesn`t provide justification for a homicide.
  65. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:27 am
    "I see right through your pretense of impartiality, yusuk!

    You`re as transparent as an Invisible. Damn, that was stereotyping. Okay, um, something about pronouncing the letter L and being Chinese. No harm in that, surely."

    damn!! there is just no fooling an IAB commenter!

    I humble concede to your otherworldly powers of observation and intuitiveness.
  66. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:28 am
    MacGuffin, are you also incensed that implied a more than casual relationship between caucasians, margarine, and Volvos?

    I have literally no idea what you are on about. Are margarine and Volvos typically white products now???
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    fancylad Male 30-39
    18853 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:29 am
    yusuksomuch: Oh, OK. I didn`t read that way, but I`ll take your word for it.

    Anyhoo, I just editorialized that the `cross hairs concern me` because I really don`t want to see another Rodney King-like full-scale riot that started in Los Angeles and carried over throughout the States. I dealt with my town going on full-alert once already, I don`t want to have to deal with it again.

    I understand the rage and the need for street justice, but by making a flyer with cross hairs on anyone sends a message of murder. As much as I hate people, I rather not have to navigate my way to and fro work amidst looting and rioting and if this situation gets any further out of hand, that`s where it`s headed.

    Then again, if there is a riot, it gives me an excuse to avoid the office and work from home in my underwear.

    Yep, you read that right. If there is a Zimmerman/Martin riot, I-A-B WILL CARRY FORTH!
  68. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:30 am
    "I have literally no idea what you are on about. Are margarine and Volvos typically white products now???"

    LMFAO!
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Pardon me, MacGuffin. I was unaware the humor was alien to your species.

    0111010111101010101111

    Better?
  70. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:32 am
    "Yep, you read that right. If there is a Zimmerman/Martin riot, I-A-B WILL CARRY FORTH!"

    lol, this is by far the funniest martin/zimmerman thread yet.
  71. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:32 am
    Pardon me, MacGuffin. I was unaware the humor was alien to your species.

    0111010111101010101111

    Better?

    No, it just wasn`t funny, and didn`t make sense.
  72. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:34 am
    "0111010111101010101111"

    cannot believe you went THERE!!! you sir are technoist? computerist? idk some freakin "ist"
  73. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:35 am
    You chose not to see the humor because you`re too busy being strident, Macguffin. Which is cool, it`s your time. Be outraged and superior all you want -- you`ll have every bit as much effect on the matter as I will with my flippant don`t-give-a-crap.

    But it was funny.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:35 am
    Sorry, yuk, but when she said 0110101111 I was forced to respond. 0111010111, you know how it is, my 101101.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:37 am
    01000100 01110101 01100100 01100101 00101100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101110 01100101 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100011 01101000 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100001
  76. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:40 am
    did pinkrhoid just insulted my mom?
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:41 am
    *insult*
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:41 am
    @fancylad: the MSM is already "walking back" from this story, now that facts are coming out that they can`t ignore.

    @madest: invisible? Shirt tucked in? You`re just beyond the pale...
  79. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:51 am
    You chose not to see the humor ...But it was funny.


    A little tip: if you need to *tell* people something is funny, it`s not. I didn`t choose not to see anything. I`m just being honest here - what you said literally doesn`t make any kind of sense to me. You might as well have said Ford Crown Victorias and french fries in relation to white people, with the same tone of expectation that other people would know WTF you were on about, and the effect would have been the exact same. Maybe it`s an American thing. Or maybe you`re just an unfunny douchebag. I know which I think it is.

    Meanwhile, here`s Ricky Gervais to tell you what he thinks of your sense of humour:

  80. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
    2346 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:51 am
    Ah, MacGuffin, that`s better! For a moment there I was afraid you`d lost your righteous indignation.

    Please continue, because (gasp) there`s something on the Internet with which you do not agree!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Ah, MacGuffin, that`s better! For a moment there I was afraid you`d lost your righteous indignation.

    Please continue, because (gasp) there`s something on the Internet with which you do not agree!

    I`m sorry, were you being funny again? Maybe you should tickle me so I know when to laugh.

    You`ve confused Will Ferrell too now:

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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:56 am
    This shameless flirting must stop, MacGuffin. Although no one can blame you. I work out.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:58 am
    Well this seems a little much.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Funny is relative. What one finds funny another does not. For example, I don`t find either of you funny. That doesn`t mean I`ll try and stop you though so please stop fighting before Fancy turns IAB around and goes straight home.
    (See, I can be unfunny too!)
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:04 am
    "funny is relative. What one finds funny another does not. For example, I don`t find either of you funny. That doesn`t mean I`ll try and stop you though so please stop fighting before Fancy turns IAB around and goes straight home.
    (See, I can be unfunny too!)"


    I laughed at this does that mean I am wrong? I need a rule book or something.....
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:04 am
    Oh, okay, Pink.

    I have to go back to writing copy for `FOX and Friends` anyway.

    Ciao, babies!
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:06 am
    You`re not even going to point out that I claimed I wouldn`t try to stop you and asked you to stop in the same sentence? I was trying to understand Madests perspective on debates.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:07 am
    "You`re not even going to point out that I claimed I wouldn`t try to stop you and asked you to stop in the same sentence?"

    I would, but I just took an arrow to the knee.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:07 am
    This shameless flirting must stop, MacGuffin. Although no one can blame you. I work out.
    Bitch, please. If you`re going to pull the "stop flirting with me" line you`ve got to at least be fit or funny, otherwise you`re just embarrassing yourself, and as we`ve already established you`re a middle-aged man that needs to explain his jokes.

    No, wait a minute though, there is someone that `gets` your dinosaur humour:

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    Smutleybutt Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:08 am
    AH the old MacGuffin
    we know and love is again filling IAB threads with her special brand of crazy poo.



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    April 3, 2012 at 10:09 am
    "You`re not even going to point out that I claimed I wouldn`t try to stop you and asked you to stop in the same sentence?"

    this wasn`t the funny part!? I am not good at this.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:10 am
    I have little interest in either of your twin sisters, MacGuffin. Although I must say they have excellent teeth, for Europeans.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Actually I`m finding the pictures, well not the pictures themselves maybe, but the discriptions and bad puns just a hair below his humor.
    They`ve got a desperate feel.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:11 am
    I can see how the one looks like her a little but why insult Hillary?

    I kid, I kid.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:12 am
    Thanks for the seizure Smutley! :P
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:14 am
    I *really* have to go this time.

    MacGuffin, call me...
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Ahh good old I-A-B. The thread descends into pointless name calling and personal insults yet again.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:17 am
    I have little interest in either of your twin sisters, MacGuffin. Although I must say they have excellent teeth, for Europeans.
    Now, that one I did at least see some semblance of rationale in, even if you forgot to hold up a "laughter" card to let me know you were attempting humour. Although, isn`t it *British* people rather than Europeans per se that are meant to have bad teeth? And isn`t Hillary Clinton an American?

    Sorry - there`s me going and expecting your jokes to actually make sense and have funny bits at the end again. Look, you`ve made Billy Connolly dry up now:


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    April 3, 2012 at 10:17 am
    PinkRhoid
    sorry for the strobing but it is a new therapy we have been using, trying to get MacGuffin to get down off her high horse and act like a not so crazy human. We are hoping it works.....IF she IS human! 10000001 (that should cover it)
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
    @Smutley and PinkRhoid: Guys, please, get a room. Adults are talking.
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:25 am
    MacGuffin yes adults are talking, and maybe if you shut up and listened you might learn something from us.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:27 am
    MacGuffin yes adults are talking, and maybe if you shut up and listened you might learn something from us.

    Shhhhhh!!
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    Smutleybutt Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:30 am
    MacGuffin has officially won the WORST COMEBACK EVER! in IAB history! Congratulations, enjoy your prize!

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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Shhhhhh!!
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:34 am

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    April 3, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Macstuffin, come at me bro!

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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:39 am
    @patchgrabber: Now *that`s* funny.

    Meanwhile, here is Frank`s younger more attractive brother telling a joke to the Dalai Lama in the family`s trademark style.
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:42 am

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    sweatpeanis Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:47 am
    No shopping, ok
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:48 am
    Don`t they realize that at that close a range that`s not even going to be a head shot?

    Seriously though. This poo`s gotta stop. The Zimmy/Marty stuff, not you guys..
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:55 am
    Maybe some of you that still believe GZ is racist should read this open letter to NAACP Seminole county president Turner Clayton.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:56 am
    GZ may not be racist but he is a murderer. The "F-ing coons" remark doesn`t help but you`re welcome to come to his defense since you know him so well.
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    hauswyfe Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 10:58 am
    You guys are so funny.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:09 am
    so stupid
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:15 am
    madest: Killing someone in self-defense, after getting a broken nose and a bashed head, is not murder.

    I know you love to cling to your liberal rhetoric, but eventually you`ll realize you`re wrong about this man who`s a democrat that voted for Obama.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Argue with the dictionary not me.

    Oh and since you brought that up you are aware that the republicans on the Supreme Court now allow prison officials to strip search you for minor offenses. That`s republican for: "looking out for your rights"
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    stk5m Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:20 am
    No work, no school, and no shopping? That already sounds like typical day in the hood.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:22 am
    Quick update: MacGuffin and I just married, after a whirlwind romance in Derbyshire. We will be honeymooning atop the Eiffel Tower, and afterward will settle down to our quaint faux-cabin double-wide trailer, where I will work the midnight shift at the potted meat plant and she will toil in the kitchen, preparing an endless stream of sammiches for our seven unruly hellspawn.

    We are registered at Home Depot under the name `Booger.`
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:30 am
    @SadFrank: I don`t know what your problem is, old timer, but I bet it`s hard to pronounce.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:32 am
    I don`t believe Zimmerman is a racist, but I do believe that killing an unarmed person who just happened to kick your ass when you got into an altercation with them is not self defense.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:39 am
    She really can`t stay away from me, can she?

    I curse this irresistible charm with which I am imbued!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:39 am
    "allow prison officials to strip search you for minor offenses."

    What`s the problem with this?

    Don`t go to drating prison.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 11:54 am
    I have to agree with auburnjunky on this one. Who cares if convicts get strip-searched? It`s *prison,* not a trip to a day spa.
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    We-Go Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    This whole Trayvon thing is blown WAY out in left field. The media shows pictures of Trayvon when he was 12. They should be broadcasting current photos...6`1" & 200 lbs. People would certainly have a different perspective on this. Has anyone seen the pictures that he had posted on his facebook? The family removed the twitter posts because it definitely wasn`t what a boy going to the store to get skittles would do. Oh...and skittles?? It`s street slang for MDMA or Ecstasy.
    Was Trayvon Dealing Drugs?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    We`re not talking about "convicts" we`re talking about Americans stopped for minor offenses. Don`t you people read the news? This was a supreme court decision that will affect your life. How can something this fresh and this controversial be ignored by Americans?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    She really can`t stay away from me, can she?

    I curse this irresistible charm with which I am imbued!
    Is now a good time to tell you I was born male?
  127. Profile photo of BoredFrank
    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    madest, your quote:

    "...the Supreme Court now allow prison officials to strip search you for minor offenses."

    So did you mis-state your point, or are you suggesting prison officials will start popping up on street-corners, demanding to strip-search random pedestrians? You`re the one who said `prison officials.`
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Male, female, end table, igneous rock -- none are immune to my boundless charm.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    We`re not talking about "convicts" we`re talking about Americans stopped for minor offenses. Don`t you people read the news? This was a supreme court decision that will affect your life. How can something this fresh and this controversial be ignored by Americans?
    Not only that, but thanks to Bush, Jail and Prison staff are now exempt from prosecution for any crime they commit against any person in custody. There have been cases of women being illegal strip-searched by men, and tazered when they insisted on their right to be searched only by women. If they were actually convicts in prison, that would still be bad enough, but these are people arrested and *suspected* of minor offences we`re talking about here.

    Most Americans seem incapable of the sort of imaginative intelligence to realise that these abuses could easily be inflicted on them, though, and prefer to believe that since it`s "only happening to prisoners" that`s somehow OK.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    Excellent link @We-Go! Welcome to IAB!

    Yes Trayvon had multiple tattoos, at 17! And was suspended from school for grafitti and drugs.

    He was 6`2", 160 at least. Zimmerman was 5`9" 170 NOT 250 as the media bleats endlessly! Look at the video, is that a 250 pound person?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    Male, female, end table, igneous rock -- none are immune to my boundless charm.
    Whatever, dude, now get your decrepit arse over here and suck my boner, bitch.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    I think we all saw that coming, MacGuffin.

    Isn`t love grand?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    Not only that, but thanks to Bush, Jail and Prison staff are now exempt from prosecution for any crime they commit against any person in custody -----------
    Not only that but the move to corporate owned prisons in the 1980s has led us into a world where corporations profit with more prisoners. The silence about the whole situation is scary. People should be screaming from their rooftops. Sadly they`d be ignored like a Louisianan during Katrina.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    What is it about men whose eyes are too close together that they`re always troublemaking cowards that pick on people half their size only to get their arses kicked?




    They`re nearly always called George too.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    I think we all saw that coming, MacGuffin.

    Isn`t love grand?
    Don`t talk with your mouth full, bitch.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    Not only that but the move to corporate owned prisons in the 1980s has led us into a world where corporations profit with more prisoners. The silence about the whole situation is scary. People should be screaming from their rooftops. Sadly they`d be ignored like a Louisianan during Katrina.
    I couldn`t agree more. FWIW, US prisons policy is one of the things that American citizens should be screaming blue murder about. But then, `criminals` are always the first victims of fascist regimes, aren`t they?, because those in power figure "who`s going to stand up and care about prisoners"?
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    Zuriel Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Zimmerman cleared by police..

    ... nuff said
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    No school, no work, no shopping, tight pussy, loose shoes, and a warm place to $#!+. Sounds like the promised land.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    madest: Jails and Prisons have had the right to strip search everyone coming into their facility, for at least 20 years now.

    It`s done to help combat the influx of drugs, weapons, and other contraband into the corrections system.

    Then again you liberals love defending criminals and their `rights` to do drugs and shank rivals and snitches in prison.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    China has 1/4 the people we have in jail and they have 4 times the population. We have more people in jail now than Stalin had in gulags. Where`s the outrage? Jails need to be reserved for the thief`s and people who hurt others. We set the bar for jail too low and the 1% cashes in.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    I`d better leave MacGuffin alone for a while. I think she`s actually foaming at the mouth, judging from the rapid decay of wit and elegance in her rebuttals.

    I gladly accept the accolades as victor of this round of one-upsmanship. MacGuffin, you need to work on your impulse control. No one is terribly impressed with your rooster.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    See what I mean? CJ is a typical republican who is willing to throw away his civil rights because his team approved it. If the republican party poops on on the constitution one more time my heads gonna friggin explode. If National Healthcare is government overreach yet getting strip searched for walking your dog without a leash is not. Then I have news for you. Your positions are bankrupt of originality. You`re told what to think and you obey like a well trained dog. You disgust me.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    madest: You`re beginning to sound like a person whose currently on, or has been on, parole or probation.

    The only `raging` about it is you and that`s telling.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    @madest Please go look up the word `murder` in the dictionary.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    madest: ...yet getting strip searched for walking your dog without a leash is not.

    Are you saying that`s how your latest arrest went, is that coming from personal experience ?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    I`d better leave MacGuffin alone for a while. I think she`s actually foaming at the mouth, judging from the rapid decay of wit and elegance in her rebuttals.

    I gladly accept the accolades as victor of this round of one-upsmanship. MacGuffin, you need to work on your impulse control. No one is terribly impressed with your rooster.

    What, no more pillow talk? I am disappointed. No really. Now feck off, you pathetic gobshyte.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    madest: You`re beginning to sound like a person whose currently on, or has been on, parole or probation.

    The only `raging` about it is you and that`s telling.
    I`m an ex-employee of the police service in a civilised country, I`ve never been arrested, and I agree with everything madest has said thus far about the shocking state of human rights abuses in US Prisons.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    Forget all the genocide in other countries, the second we have one dead black kid is the second the dratin race war starts >.>
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    MacGuffin: The `human rights` abuses in US prisons come mostly from the inmates toward other inmates and the guards. The gang problems in American prisons are epic, and new controls and procedures are only put in place to keep inmates and guards safe.

    If you can`t do the time, don`t do the crime.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Yep. Definitely foaming at the mouth.

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    April 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    MacGuffin: The `human rights` abuses in US prisons come mostly from the inmates toward other inmates and the guards. The gang problems in American prisons are epic, and new controls and procedures are only put in place to keep inmates and guards safe.
    Most of the human rights abuses I`ve read about have been from staff towards inmates. I`ve read about girls as young as twelve being stripped and beaten by cowardly men hiding behind prison uniforms, all the while your equally-cowardly populace does nothing to protest the appalling abuse in its midst, because such victims are "only prisoners". The parallels between America 2012 and Germany 1939 are staggering when it comes to the abuse you turn a blind eye to in your society, and the disparity of treatment you tolerate between the privileged few and the oppressed many.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    Yep. Definitely foaming at the mouth.
    Poor sad old man, you always have to have the last word, don`t you?
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Irony, thy name is MacGuffin.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    No. Never been arrested. Part of the reason for being concerned about a law like this is that perfectly rational people like you would jump to conclusions about someone like me without any evidence what-so-ever. Slap handcuffs on me, charge me with some trumped up BS like "Disorderly Conduct" and get ordered to strip by some high-school dropout / community watch-wannabe failure that got a minimum wage job at a prison? Just so they could teach a guy with an attitude a lesson and in the end simply drop the charges? To give the police unchecked power is asinine and the rulings supporters retarded.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    MacGuffin: I`ve read about girls as young as twelve being stripped and beaten by cowardly men hiding behind prison uniforms..

    Show a link or it didn`t happen.

    The parallels between America 2012 and Germany 1939...

    Really ? Show me where we`ve segregated Jews, or any other race, marked them and their stores, threatened our neighbors with invasion, or elected a dicta.. er wait.. you might have me on that last part.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    Irony, thy name is MacGuffin.
    See?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    madest: You`re using the word `Me` way to much to just be talking about a hypothetical case. You seem to fear the police to the point of phobia.

    This seems to me, to be the kind of paranoia that comes with frequent drug abuse, but it could also be schizophrenia or other mental instability.

    It`s natural to be wary of police, but you are writing like you`d run if one stared at you too hard.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    MacGuffin says: See?

    I do indeed. But you may have the last word in this instance, because the power is about to fail here.

    Revel in your one small victory during this exchange.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    >>>Show a link or it didn`t happen.<<<

    Certainly

    Some quotes:

    "The report documents that Lansing and Tryon staff frequently restrain girls violently, seizing them from behind and pushing them to the floor, then pulling their arms up behind them to hold or handcuff."

    "Incarcerated girls may also be at risk of sexual abuse. Human Rights Watch and the ACLU documented three cases in the past five years of staff having intercourse with their wards."

    "The majority of girls in the Tryon and Lansing facilities are 15 or 16 years old, although some are as young as 12. Almost 73 percent are African American or Hispanic, and many come from poorer neighborhoods in New York City."
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    That`s what you stand for, America - you`re uncivilised state abusers of children.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    madest: You`re using the word `Me` way to much to just be talking about a hypothetical case. You seem to fear the police to the point of phobia.
    You should give up the amateur psychology, Dr Freud, because clearly you`re not that good at it.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    MacGuffin: Being `restrained` `handcuffing and shackling the girls`, when it warrants it, is not `stripping and beating`.

    The article is also 6 years old.

    Next time read your own link more carefully and not cite made up bullsh|t.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    MacGuffin: Take your elitist european condescension and fix your own problems first, like the riots, the strikes, the economic collapse, the continuous bailouts, etc...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    MacGuffin: Take your elitist european condescension and fix your own problems first, like the riots, the strikes, the economic collapse, the continuous bailouts, etc...
    What, nothing intelligent to say on the actual story that you actually asked me for and I actually provided you with? You do surprise me.

    Then again, it is pretty indefensible, cowardly behaviour, isn`t it? Beating up and sexually abusing children.

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    StellaT Female 13-17
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    You know, I don`t comment much on IAB threads cause I enjoy reading them more than I enjoy commenting. But I have to say, you guys are sooooo entertaining.

    As for this Trayvon thing, I admit to my ignorance. And judging by the constant flow of opposing info, I will never know the truth. So I`ll keep my mouth shut. I hope others in my position will do the same.

    Ignorance truly is bliss.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    MacGuffin: You cited an old and non-referenced article from a well known liberal website.

    If I were to post a link to Foxnews citing equally repugnant behavior in Europe, I`m sure you would dismiss it as `crap` as quickly as I dismissed your link.

    So get your nose out of the air and come back to reality.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    How odd.
    I called the number for "more information"
    and got the voice mail of some cracker named Robert Hart.

    And yes, I could tell he was white by his accent.
    I expected the Black Panthers or something but I don`t think he`s a member.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    In case anyone might be tempted to conclude that it was only my "European condescension" that`s offended by the cowardly way that US Prison staff behave, here`s the US`s own Department of Justice report into the same facilities.here`s the US`s own Department of Justice report into the same facilities

    Some quotes again:

    "Our investigation revealed that staff use excessive force to control youth`s behaviour"

    "...in many of the incidents we reviewed and observed during the tour, the team`s actions actually intensified the tension to the point where a restraint was employed. As a result, a behaviour such as pouring sugar into a glass of orange juice is just as likely to result in restraint as initiating a fist fight."
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    "A youth alleged that she was restrained for taking a cookie without permission during evening snack time. The investigator concluded that the YDA who `hooked up` the youth, did so unnecessarily, and noted that the YDA had `several disciplines relating to the inappropriate handling of residents`"

    "A youth alleged that a YDA had dragged her from her bed and restrained her, causing her to sustain lacerations, bruises and welts. The investigation found the YDA used unnecessary force.....the YDA employee remained employed at the facility"
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    CrakrJak, prisons in Europe (properly referred to as `salons`) are havens of enlightenment and healing. Each inmate -- pardon me, `patron,` is given daily aromatherapy sessions, holistic healing, and of course Yoga until their personhood is actualized in a safe and nurturing environment free from American industrial negativity and hurtful verbal triggers.

    In Europe, there is no injustice, no inequality, and no domination of any one group by another. White togas are worn by all, as they stroll down streets of gold and engage in lofty discourse, the meaning of which is lost upon troglodytes such as you and I.

    <Lights scented candle, hums mantra for universal peace>
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    MacGuffin: You cited an old and non-referenced article from a well known liberal website.
    I`m way ahead of you, Crakr. See below. How did I know implausible denial was your next refuge, I wonder?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    meh.....
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    CrakrJak, prisons in Europe (properly referred to as `salons`) are havens of enlightenment and healing. Each inmate -- pardon me, `patron,` is given daily aromatherapy sessions, holistic healing, and of course Yoga until their personhood is actualized in a safe and nurturing environment free from American industrial negativity and hurtful verbal triggers.

    No, we just don`t send kids as young as twelve off to be abused by paedophiles in uniform, and call that justice.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    Rather be me than a lap dog like you. Grow an opinion you can support.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    madest: Grow out of your infantile paranoia. The police are not hiding behind the next bush waiting to arrest you.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    China has 1/4 the people we have in jail and they have 4 times the population
    Because China kills prisoners to harvest & sell their organs?
    We have more people in jail now than Stalin had in gulags.
    Because the gulags were death camps? Some had annual fatality rates of 90%? That millions died in them?

    Wait, you actually prefer China`s "legal system" to the USA`s? LMAO! I know for a fact you`d prefer Stalin was in charge... after Obama`s done of course.
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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    No thanks.
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    StellaT Female 13-17
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    Well damn, Madest, I didn`t do anything to you. I do have an opinion, but I don`t know enough to fully stand by it.

    You see, this is why I don`t comment; my blood pressure is already rising.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    would jump to conclusions about someone like me without any evidence what-so-ever.

    OH! The hypocracy!

    and the rulings supporters retarded.
    I knew he`d get to his favorite word eventually!
    Hey @madest! Obama re-signed many of those laws you`re carping about, is HE retarded too? Oh I know, the Republicans FORCED him to do it! Oy vey!

    @MacGuffin: I saw a docco on a British `women`s prison`. It was like hell on earth, seriously.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    @StellaT: @madest was attacking @CrakrJak, again, not you.
    As soon as @madest runs out of `proof` for his opinions, which is usually 1 or 2 sentences, he starts with the insults.
    Not just "yo momma so fat..." but GRAPHIC, PERSONAL insults. So far `below the belt` your knees are in danger!
    And he won`t stop! He `doubles down` and will not give one single inch! It`s the same... poo... every... time...

    Then he bans you! Or deletes your suggestions...
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    StellaT Female 13-17
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Oh, okay then. Blood pressure back to normal. Sorry, Madest.
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    i bet if a black guy killed a white guy, no one would give a poo because it happens so often. let alone have it`s own day...
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    Well, I hope we`ve all learned something here today.

    Allow me to summarize:

    * In America, all 12 year olds are randomly strip-searched for walking their dogs in prison.

    * By contrast, in enlightened Europe, juvenile inmates are taught useful life-skills, such as rioting in France or looting shops in downtown London.

    * Everyone in any American prison is there for petty offences incurred when they failed to return a library book on time. Yes, Big Library and Big Prison have formed an unholy alliance, and the innocent masses must pay.

    I think we can all agree the discussion was fruitful and, above all, an agent of real change in this, our troubled world.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    >>> MacGuffin: Fix your problems first.

    Link 1
    Link 2 <<<

    "My" problems?. Well, your first link appears to pertain to a youth jail. In the Philippines. I knew that Americans were generally dumb about world geography, but I would have thought that even you`d know that the Philippines was in the Western Pacific, and not in the UK (or indeed Europe).

    Your second link is from the extremely right-wing Daily Heil (pfft! - and you`ve gfot the cheek to question my sources!?), and is about how a whole third of inmates at a youth prison in London are Muslim. My point was about the s
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    ...My point was about the sexual and physical abuse of young girls in US custody? What is your point, dear? Because honestly it`s not at all clear how which religion prisoners in the UK are relates to girls in US custody being sexually abused.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    @MacGuffin: I saw a docco on a British `women`s prison`. It was like hell on earth, seriously.

    Really?, which prison was that then, 5cats? I`ve been in several detention facilities in the course of my work, and, whilst they weren`t pleasant, and the were by no means perfect, they were by and large very, very safe. So, which one did you see exactly that was "hell on earth"?
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    I believe 5cats was referring to the notorious Azkaban facility, for which there is simply no excuse.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    I believe 5cats was referring to the notorious Azkaban facility, for which there is simply no excuse.
    You know, even though fellatio may be finished for the evening, somehow there always still seems to be yet more bollocks to come out of your mouth.
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    MacGuffin, can you make any statement at all that doesn`t involve mouths and balls?

    Really, you`re becoming tiresome and predictable.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    MacGuffin, can you make any statement at all that doesn`t involve mouths and balls?
    When talking about or to you? No. Deal with it.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    I have no school on mondays so I`m participating by default :P Not quite sure how this turned into an 8 page discussion o.o
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    It`s funny to me that this is the day after easter when most schools are off and a lot of businesses are closed too.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    Do people really care this much about someone they`ve never met? I must be a robot.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    ...this is the day after easter...
    OMG! I totaly didn`t notice that @honkeylips! THAT is extra-funny!

    @MacGuffin: It`s closed now. Highcastle? Highgate? Had some ominous sounding name. Built in the early 70`s (iirc) as a `model` prison, it was truely hell on earth for both inmates and guards. I`m fishing around to find it, it was a moving docco about how wrong things can get when `beurocrats` run the show.
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    Gottamgear Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    People who are feeding that troll macnuthin: She is not worth the effort. Here she is in a nutshell:
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    Yea sadly I`m on spring break that day. I`m almost tempted to go break into the school and work just to protest this protest. Instead I`ll go shopping somewhere that`s open.
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    syke22 Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    They claim they want to arrest Zimmerman but his picture has a crosshair over it? What?
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
    519 posts
    April 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    I`m so glad the members of the black panthers have taken a month from their busy schedules to focus all their time and energy on one black man killed by a hispanic guy. Meanwhile, in the weeks since this has occurred, dozens of young black men across the country have been killed by other young black men, without so much as a passing reference.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    They claim they want to arrest Zimmerman but his picture has a crosshair over it? What?
    You know, I think I remember Sarah Palin at one point using crosshairs targeting Democrat areas...

    I think the argument went "They`re not actually gun sights, they`re just pointers! You know, like pointing out a target! It`s not violent rhetoric at all!"

    So obviously, according to that logic, the BP aren`t trying to incite violence against Zimmerman, of course, they`re just pointing at him with non-violent rhetoric that means nothing except that he`s the person the justice system should be targeting.

    (Just poking fun at conservative logic, I`m not actually trying to draw genuine parallels here.)
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    Blacks only get upset when a non-black kills another black. Black on black is perfectly acceptable.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm
    Altaru

    What kind of idiot are you?

    Palin was using a normal piece of political rhetoric, which many others including democrats used. Her symbol was also not actually crosshairs, but a surveyor`s symbol although that is not especially relevant.

    The NBPs have used threats and incited violence against a man who was not even been charged with a crime when in custody. They have offered a reward for his "capture", which is a felony, considering his capture would be kidnap.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    macguffin

    You`re a fool too. Martin was 10-20 lb lighter than Zimmerman, not "half his size". Oh, and being beaten by him, suffering serious bruising, a broken nose and a massive gash to the head.
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    dognose82 Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    I was actually going to buy a new Glock 19 tomorrow. I think I`ll wait until the 9th.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    What a bunch of crap!!!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    To all those saying MacGuffin should be quiet because she`s eurotrash... I mean European, I say "Be Silent."

    As much as all of us here in U.S. & Canada make fun of europe, she has every right to comment on things happening in the U.S.. I have checked the the IAB rules and nothing says her comments have to informative, intelligent, or coherant.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    I think I remember Sarah Palin at one point
    Yeah @Altaru: you "think you remember" that.
    IN FACT: they were photographic sights.
    Meanwhile, several Democrats had ACTUAL "crosshairs" in thier ads... un-noticed by the MSM of course!

    So: You remember lies, and the truth escapes you.
    Yup! You`re a liberal through and through!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    Good on you @dognose82!

    @Gerry1, I`m liking you more and more each day!
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    April 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    Million hoodlums?
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    h2oxy Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    The Black Panthers are the black KKK
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    buttsdowhat Female 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    I like how people think they`ll make a difference if they don`t shop/work/go to school for one day.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 8:00 pm
    The more I read of MacGuffins posts, the more convinced I am that (s?)he is a troll.

    It`s one thing to be displeased and upset with a government, and I think it`s important to voice those concerns, but to rattle off statements such as, and I quote,
    "I knew that Americans were generally dumb about world geography"
    "I know you can`t help being uncouth - you`re American, after all."
    is not just unnecessary and insulting,it portrays yourself as a simple minded and ignorant bigot who buys into stereotypes.

    We`re a big country with a large population, we`re going to have stupid people. Every single country is going to have stupid people.

    Saying the things that you do really just makes you sound like an elitist prick, which I suppose doesn`t bother you, since you continue to do it, but I cannot possible fathom how the poor people feel who have to interact on a daily basis with such an unpleasant sounding person such as yourself.
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    thecurt Male 18-29
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    April 3, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    How much longer till this is forgotten?
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    DL_ski Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2012 at 12:28 am
    i will not take part of this nonsense... and will be naked all day to void the hoody idea, i hope others will join...(just tryin to have a good time)
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    Jury1of1 Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2012 at 1:21 am
    I don`t the work thing will be much of an issue for the majority of people who attend that thing.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    April 4, 2012 at 2:10 am
    That`s Carey Virellas birthday. Can`t we use a day in the winter that nobody gives a sh*t about?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 4, 2012 at 7:44 am
    The more I read of MacGuffins posts, the more convinced I am that (s?)he is a troll.

    It`s one thing to be displeased and upset with a government, and I think it`s important to voice those concerns, but to rattle off statements...

    No, I`m not a troll. Whatever you or anyone else may think about my opinions, I believe I`ve made it abundantly clear by backing up my opinions with reports from independently-verifiable sources such as the US Department of Justice that they`re based on truth. Trolls by comparison don`t care about the truth - they`ll just say anything to get a reaction; that`s the difference.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 4, 2012 at 7:44 am
    I`m glad that my views upset you, however. That`s sometimes what it takes to confront conventional opinion or wilful ignorance. Just to clarify something, though, it`s *not* just your government`s actions that I object to – it is you, "ordinary" Americans. Another similarity between USA 2012 and Germany 1939 is that you both freely elected the governments that have gone on to do terrible things. Unlike the Soviet population under Stalin, or the North Koreans under Kim Jong-Il, you actually *chose* the successive governments that have engaged in torture and other human rights abuses, including as I`ve pointed out abuses directed towards your own children in custody.

    ...
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    April 4, 2012 at 7:44 am
    You were right about one thing, though: it was pretty unfair of me to criticise all Americans, and attribute characteristics to you as a whole based on the actions of the select few I`ve met on here and in the real world (although, Crakr was asking for the "dumb about geography" observation by stating that the Philippines was a UK/European problem, and 5Cats wasn`t making North America seem too clever either by claiming that a UK women`s prison was "hell on earth", then not even being able to name the prison he was talking about – WTFingF??). I note with interest, though, that whilst you leapt immediately to defend Americans against such stereotyping, there`s been precious little criticism from any of you concerning the many, many equally-offensive comments on here that have attributedf stereotypical characteristics to groups like blacks and women. Think about it.

    Love, Mac. x
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    Neoptolemos Male 30-39
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    April 4, 2012 at 7:47 am
    Enough already... I absolute abhor hate crime but the aftermath is just as annoying. Geez!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    April 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    Altaru-"I think I remember Sarah Palin at one point using crosshairs targeting Democrat areas..."

    You remember incorrectly, her election did not use `crosshairs`. In actually they were closer to a Surveyor Symbol or a publisher`s crop/registration marks.

    Compare a surveyor symbol:


    and a registration mark:

    with Palin`s map:


    Now, look at the TARGETS on the DEMOCRATIC map, that no news organization ever complained about:


    But, don`t let facts slow down your Rhetoric.
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    clancy54 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    You might be stupid if...you think that a surveyor`s mark and cross hairs aren`t similar. Don`t let common sense slow down your rhetoric. Hypocrisy at its finest. While I do not know the caption to the Palin map, with the Bush map the targets made sense because of the caption went with it. And in conclusion, who the drat cares if they used a cross hair, surveyor symbol or target?
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    Dover78 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2012 at 5:21 pm
    I may be wrong, but if black people don`t want to be thought of as separate from other races, then why do they keep forming organizations only they`re allowed to join?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2012 at 6:36 pm
    @clancy: They identified locations on a map... using symbols that identify places on a map. How does that mean they`re hypocrites?
    The MSM however, ignored actual targets & crosshairs on DEM ads, but attacked Palin for NON-crosshairs.
    THAT is hypocracy.

    But, you know: Don`t let common sense slow down your rhetoric...
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    clancy54 Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    @ 5cats: I think you missed my point. I was saying that both are the same thing. They are both marking locations. However, the reasons used by Grendel were nothing but stretched meanings. Thus being a part of the rhetoric making him a hypocrite through his statement. I do not care which politically party used which. My "pro" Bush -he`s an idiot- part of my post was merely using an actual fact given to me by Grendel`s picture. Yes, my first post may have been confusing, my apologizes.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 4, 2012 at 9:43 pm
    Hummm, I`ll let you off with a warning this time @clancy...

    LOLZ! Look at me! The IAB Police!

    I think @Grendel`s point is that Palin didn`t use actual "crosshairs" and the MSM went berzerk, while several Democrats used ACTUAL crosshairs! And the MSM said nothing, even after it was pointed out.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    April 5, 2012 at 1:32 am
    If I didn`t just graduate I would be sure to go to school on that day. Let`s wait until we get all the facts before we make accusations.
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