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31 Responses to Fracking Hell: The Untold Story

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    blackcatseye Female 30-39
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    April 12, 2012 at 11:28 am
    Link: Fracking Hell: The Untold Story - Fracking is dangerous, learn some facts, also watch the film Gasland.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 15, 2012 at 9:06 am
    Lost me in the first minute. TONS of stuff have "radioactive" elements in them. Like dirt for example.

    Every form of energy is dirty. Even the greenies` precious "wind farms" ok? It`s ALL bad, get over it already!
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    April 15, 2012 at 9:14 am
    So is crossing the street. Is fracking as dangerous as endless foreign war? What`s smarter, working to find relatively safe ways to extract natural resources on our own soils, or pursuing a disastrous policy of spending trillions and killing hundreds of thousands trying to hold an entire region together so we can continue to buy their oil?
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    April 15, 2012 at 9:35 am
    Watch Gasland for facts? You do realise how comical that looks? There are no facts in Gasland - and when the director was challenged about this he bullied the reporter.
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    Arcval Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Fracking can produce water issues if done carelessly. So regulate and monitor properly and it works ok, like pretty much any other industry.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:12 am
    Just move your stupid family because you`re getting in the way of progress
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:15 am
    Good report; I got a lot out of it.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:25 am
    5Cats

    wind farms don`t make the water flammable. fracking does.
    fracking is a form of oil production that in the past was considered too dangerous and costly to bother with. it is now being used out of desperation and because without folliwing the regs strictly, oil companies can rape it out of the land for less money.

    the way it is being done now is terrible for the environment and yes wind farms can harm local animals but they do not leave the area filled with toxic chemicals. yes we need energy, no w do not need to wreck the place to make it.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:26 am
    I watched a news report on this one time and they were able to actually light water on fire right out of a families faucet....

    yea progress...sure.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:41 am
    "Fracking can produce water issues if done carelessly. So regulate and monitor properly and it works ok, like pretty much any other industry."

    This. People are so knee-jerk when it comes to issues like this, for example Germany is currently phasing out all nuclear power thanks to fudgeashima, despite the fact that nuclear power has resulted in far less deaths and monetary damage per capita than coal and gas power generation. Yes, it`s horrible when it goes really wrong like Chernobyl, but countless miners have been injured, or died as a result of their work, and the water table can get ruined as a result of those as well.

    Like Arcval said, just regulate it with safety and environmental standards, and it`s fine.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 10:51 am
    It comes down to environmental regulations and proper municipal water and wastewater treatment. That`s all.

    I don`t see a problem with the core principle. It`s the execution that sucks.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 15, 2012 at 11:46 am
    jamie: Wind farms have been killing rare birds like falcons, hawks, eagles, vultures and condors. The sound they make is awful and most people have resisted having them anywhere near where they live.

    Even the Kennedys wouldn`t allow them on Cape Cod.

    Fracking is not as dangerous as environuts would have you believe, they just hate oil and gas so much they`ll say anything to end it`s exploration.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    April 15, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    Crakr- sometimes I swear you are trolling. how can you possibly think fracking is okay? Why do you think is is a good idea to use all fossil fuels just because you can? It is bad housekeeping no matter what else....
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    April 15, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    Conservationism is ashamed to share a root word with Conservatism.
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Humanity is a cancer on this planet
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 15, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    madduck: The sooner we get ourselves off from being dependent on foreign oil the better. That means we must explore and utilize our own domestic sources now.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31761 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    @FoolsPrussia: Yeah, Germany`s Not Doing So Well eh?

    @jamie76: You forget one CRITICAL issue: Wind Farms Don`t Work All The Time! Every kilowatt of `wind power` needs a BACKUP! So you pay once for the `backup` and then pay TRIPLE the price for the `wind power`.
    Sanity would suggest: only pay for the `backup` and save billions of dollars, BUT NO!
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
    1586 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    I live in Ohio and they`ve recently had to stop fracking near me because we had a record 14 earthquakes in the past year. None were very major, but it was a giant increase in seismic activity for our area.
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    eovogt Male 18-29
    197 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Just as bad as Canada`s Oil sands, but they wont stop doing this...
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    Mantistador Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    someone do a TL;DW for me
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    @Mantistador
    It`s about how much d*ck you suck a day so they made a documentary on it.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    I saw the film Assland, as I like to call it, and then found a follow up video of him explaining something`s such as the family whose water could be lit on fire was flammable BEFORE they started fracking, and he left that part out of his movie. Of course he`s slanting the movie to fit his agenda.

    Other things, the people idiodically sold their mineral rights for cash and have to accept that fact.

    Go nuclear. That is all.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3144 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    I have submitted the video I was reffering to.
    If it doesn`t get approved in about 12-16 hours I shall post the link here.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    April 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    Awesome!
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    NOCASH Male 18-29
    423 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    @madduck, we dont use fossil fuels simply because we can. The fact of the matter is we were stupid enough to design a world that runs off fossil fuels and non-renewable resources.............not such a great idea in hindsight but here we are now anyways.
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
    307 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    Here in North Texas, we have the Barnett Shale which is considered by most to have the largest potential natural gas production in the United States.

    With over 100,000 leases for fracking currently listed, we are lucky that the shale sits several thousand feed below the aquifers and main sources of water so this "leakage" really isn`t possible (unless the injections can travel against gravity upwards) - but here is a little story from the Dallas Observer to give you more willies on a UT Study that shows the greater dangers of fracking...

    Potential Pollution...
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    April 16, 2012 at 5:45 am
    Wind farms have been killing rare birds like falcons, hawks, eagles, vultures and condors.
    True. They do kill a lot of birds.

    The sound they make is awful
    Not true. At least, not true of Whitelee Wind Farm, Europe`s second largest wind farm and just a few miles from where I live. I`ve gone cycling in amongst the pylons quite a few times, they`re very quiet until you get right up close. You certainly can`t hear anything from more than a hundred yards or so.
    It`s quite unnerving actually, you can go and stand right under the blades and look up as they fly down towards you and look like they`re going to take your head off, cool but a bit scary :P


    But there are other big problems with over-reliance on wind. Chiefly that you can`t rely on the wind.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    April 16, 2012 at 5:58 am
    I have submitted the video I was reffering to.
    If it doesn`t get approved in about 12-16 hours I shall post the link here.
    It`s approved and queued. But just for future reference, 12 hours is a bit quick to expect unless you happen to catch a mod online at the time like on this occasion :P
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    blackcatseye Female 30-39
    685 posts
    April 16, 2012 at 7:27 am
    Sosueme, why is your initial reaction to ask about war/oil? There are other ways of producing/providing energy without using fossil fuels, or are you still in the last century? One of the major investors in the Gulf Wars/Afghanistan: Halliburton, one of the major investors in fracking: Halliburton. Oh yeah and what do we do with all the methane gas? Got an answer for that? And do you think it`s OK to just extract all the gas from the Marcellus Shale and then come back in fifty years time and complain there is nowhere safe for people for live, no wildlife, no clean water? Maybe next time one of those wells in the Gulf of Mexico goes pop you should spend a little time on the nearest beach to get some perspective.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3144 posts
    April 16, 2012 at 11:15 am
    Ah yes, almightybob1. I do realize it usually takes longer, I was just stating that to keep the discussion going in case it didn`t get approved.

    And then even if it then did get approved, people could still talk about it.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
    1811 posts
    April 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    In the areas where fracking is done, what will things be like (ground water, seismic, etc) 25 years from now ??? No one really knows, or can give any definitive answers, can they ?

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