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138 Responses to Daniel Radcliffe On Being An Atheist [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Link: Daniel Radcliffe On Being An Atheist - If Harry Potter wasnt banned in your right wing Christian household, it will be now.
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    Trillian42 Female 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Certainly not, in fact I`d host him for dinner. Why should I ban his movies? Silly left wing, atheist.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    Until something gets stolen from him.

    Thou shalt not steal was a commandment, and anti-theft laws are derived from it. All of them.

    Also, thou shalt not kill.

    Also, thou shalt not commit adultery.

    etc. etc.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm
    I feel like so many more people are atheists but they pretend to be "christian" or "spiritual" to avoid being judged. So many deists can`t fathom morality without faith.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    @AJ This > Your Christian laws I think.

    You`ll find your laws are based on Iraqi ones.
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    fatex52986 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    Amen Mr. Potter
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    WorldOfJames Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    good on him
  8. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    auburnjunky

    That is just asinine. So you think all laws about theft and murder are derived from the bible? Laws against theft or murder predate the bible and exist in places that have no relation to the bible. Not to mention the hundreds of "rules" in the bible that are in no way laws, like adultery.

    Comments like this are frequently the reason that it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with most theists.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Trudat!
  10. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    @HolyGod - Yes, in America they do. Athiests are persecuted by many and people hide behind a faux faith that they themselves question in private but darenot make public. I`d wager there`s a number of people that are athiest on the internet but aren`t "out of the faith closet" IRL.

    Source: Books and US friends.
  11. Profile photo of OutWest
    OutWest Male 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Right wing Christians don`t ban books.

    Like all parents, religious or not, they want to approve of what their children, read, watch or listen to. That is not unique to the right wing. As a left wing parent, I screened for my children, until they got old enough to screen for themselves.

    Why start a post with such hateful rhetoric?
  12. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    He`s an actor. Who gives a poo about what he thinks regarding legislation and religion?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    @HolyGod: A deity certainly gave the people that created the first laws the inspiration to do so.

    Also, Adultery is a crime. You can go to jail for it, and lose rights for it, in certain situations.

    Women can die over it in some less developed/less intellectual countries.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    @HolyGod What the hell do deists have to do with anything? `So many deists` - this statement made me laugh. You do realize there aren`t really a whole lot of us these days, right?
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Christians don`t get in a fluster over Harry Potter?
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Missed my post AJ? They`re not the first laws.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    what can I say, being an atheist is pretty awesome where I`ve lived (Mexico and Canada), aside from the obvious "holy sh*t you`re an atheist? Why?" and the endless tirade about my reasons and somebody else`s that inevitably ensue after they discover you don`t follow any religion at all, specially in Mexico where about 83% claim to be catholic, and the rest strictly adhere to christianity, with some traces of other religions.

    But all in all, can`t complain... it`s fantastic having to live by the rules of men of today, instead of those from the rules of men thousands of years ago.

    I do however wish one thing changed: if we were making laws based on religion, we wouldn`t have to worry about freedom in the internet, as there`s nothing written about it in any holy book.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    I was about to refer to that code Budiah, but I wasn`t talking to you.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    @Buiadh Your `source` is invalid, and, as someone living in the south where religion is EXTREMELY prominent, I`m disagreeing with you. Atheism is NOT persecuted down here, so I highly doubt it is elsewhere in America. You are just trying to play the role of the victim to get attention and make people feel sorry for you. I have atheist friends, and, seriously, no one gives a flying drat. Stop whining and go do something productive.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    auburnjunkey

    OK, well if you just give a deity credit for everything that has ever been done, there really is no point in talking about it.

    Adultery is not illegal. Not in this country anyways. Nor is eating meat on friday, working on sunday, wearing cloth of mixed fabric or any of the other retarded rules in the bible. In fact read your ten commandments. Most of them are ridiculous. Are those really the 10 rules you think we should live by?

    "Women can die over it in some less developed/less intellectual countries." I find that interesting. So you are saying that the countries that actually follow the bible are "ess developed/less intellectual"?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    Yeah. Down here in the South, if an atheist is noticed by an evangelical, they just bless him, and go on about their day.

    That`s pretty much par for the course.
  22. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    @HolyGod Would you stop making poo up? He said none of that. He was saying that laws have been derived from religious beliefs and laws. That DOES NOT mean that he believes all religious beliefs should be put into law.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    The countries I was referring to, are not Christian.

    Also, who brought the bible into this? The bible is written by men, therefore fallible.

    Just because I believe in a deity, does NOT mean I believe in a bible or some such.

    I will say the bible is a good tool for living, but shouldn`t be taken as concrete truth by any means.
  24. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    ivran

    religioustolerance.org/atheist8.htm

    Highlight:
    University of Minnesota researchers conducted a telephone survey of over 2,000 households in early 2006. 4 They found that: "...Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in `sharing their vision of American society.` Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow their children to marry."
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    "He`s an actor. Who gives a poo about what he thinks regarding legislation and religion?"

    So was Ronald Reagan
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    no ivran. He specifically said anti theft laws are derived from the ten commandments which is just completely untrue. He also said adultery is illegal, which is also not true.
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    thubanstar Female 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    Dan Radcliffe. I like the guy.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    auburnjunky

    I am aware they are not christian countries but that doesn`t change the fact that they are doing what the bible says to do.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    @HolyGod Herp Derp. I can use a weak source too!

    here ya go

    I think my first-hand experience trumps your pooty student-conducted survey.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    @Steelgrid What does Reagan have to do with this?
  31. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    So, if athiests aren`t persecuted to any degree (by the way @AJ as an athiest, if someone tried to bless me I`d take offence) why can no athiest ever become a US president?

    That`s right, because they`re persecuted. Looked down upon.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    A deity certainly gave the people that created the first laws the inspiration to do so.
    I would say the inspiration actually came from an interaction that went something like this:

    P1 to P2: "WTF, you stole my sheep? I`ll kill you!"

    P3, brother of P2, to P1: "WTF, you killed my brother? I`ll start a blood feud between my family and yours, starting with me killing you!"

    P17, sick of all the death and killing caused by a single sheep: "WTF, all this killing needs to stop. Maybe some authority figure should step in and punish the people who cause harm to others, so we don`t have to start killing each other..."

    Parties involved: "Oh, hey, that`s not a bad idea. I`m sick of watching my brothers die over a stupid sheep anyway. Let`s make rules against stealing stuff and killing people without good cause, and have these guys enforce them."
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    HolyGod:

    The bible, and the Quran, and two different texts okay?
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    @Buiadh
    Oh my, we`re just full of logical fallacies today, aren`t we?

    I`m gonna step down to your level:
    Nobody from Alaska has ever been US president either! ALASKANS ARE BEING PERSECUTED! THIS IS A BUNCH OF UNFAIR BULLpoo! WE`RE LOOKED DOWN UPON IN SOCIETY BECAUSE WE`VE NEVER BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT!
    You see how silly you sound?
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    lol @auburnjunky, forgive everybody for confusing your kind of christianity with the kind that`s readily advertised.

    Maybe you should start by saying: "I`m a christian, but I don`t believe in the bible or what the spiritual leaders usually interpret from christianity, and I specially don`t believe in all the parts of christianity that make it seem like it was made up 2000 years ago by people who needed food and rain".

    It`ll avoid confusing people, as you should be aware that when somebody says "I`m a christian", it is associated with: "I believe in the bible as the word of god".

    Perhaps find another name for your creed? It`ll make it easier to dialog with you
  36. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    @Altaru Actually, it is more likely to have been derived from some sort of religious belief. Go take a look at history and see how much religion religion played a role in ancient cultures` laws and customs.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    ivran

    So linking to several university studies is "herp derp" and trumped by your personal opinion? Cool. You are now no longer worth engaging in any sort of discourse.
  38. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    More religion arguements? IAB has become rather predictable in this department...

    Oh well, better than `celeberty gossip` I suppose.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    @jendrian I don`t even understand what the drat you`re argument is. Where did he say he didn`t believe the bible?
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    @Steelgrid What does Reagan have to do with this?
    Probably because Reagan was an ACTOR that ended up as the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, making his opinions rather important, which refutes your claim that actors` opinions are irrelevant because they`re actors and no one cares what they think.
  41. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    @HolyGod Once again, making poo up. I said "personal experience" "personal experience" != "personal opinion".
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    @Altaru Yes, but his opinions were important AS A POLITICIAN not AS AN ACTOR.
  43. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    @HolyGod
    Also, in the realm of logic, my personal opinion would be just as valid as that pooty survey you linked to, meaning neither of them are valid.
  44. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    Actually, it is more likely to have been derived from some sort of religious belief.
    Which is, more than likely, based on practicality.

    Most religions are full of fluff and BS, but in the end, most of their rules are based on the practicality of "if I do something that causes harm, it will probably come back to haunt me."
  45. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    @5Cats I just like arguing. Although, I would prefer if the Z-Booty and T-thugz arguments would return. Those were funny.
  46. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    @Altaru Yes, but his opinions were important AS A POLITICIAN not AS AN ACTOR.
    But his opinions didn`t just suddenly develop as a politician, retard.

    So you`re saying that if Radcliffe decides to go into politics, this opinion will suddenly be more relevant than it is now?
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    "@Steelgrid What does Reagan have to do with this?"

    I would have answered this, but it seems someone brighter than you beat me to the punch....
  48. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    @Altaru That is true, but it also doesn`t invalidate what auburnjunky stated, which is what this whole sub-argument was about.
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    Zach82 Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:48 pm
    Thus revealing that Harry Potter is a bigot. As a Christian, I am happy to find common cause with atheists on issues of social welfare, religious freedom, etc.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    @ivran: here:
    auburnjunky
    Male, 30-39, Southern US
    6267 Posts Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:32:03 PM
    The countries I was referring to, are not Christian.

    Also, who brought the bible into this? The bible is written by men, therefore fallible.

    Just because I believe in a deity, does NOT mean I believe in a bible or some such.

    I will say the bible is a good tool for living, but shouldn`t be taken as concrete truth by any means.
  51. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    @Steelgrid
    Read this and this before attempting to argue again.
  52. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:50 pm
    `Although, I would prefer if the Z-Booty and T-thugz arguments would return."

    AGREED! Those were awesome times, so long ago.
  53. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    @Oh, okay. Then AJ is not a Christian, but I never heard him claim to be. There are more religions and faiths than Christianity and atheism, you know?
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    I can understand his point even though I`m Christian because in England:
    "The Anglican Church of England is the established church of England holding a special constitutional position for the United Kingdom."
  55. Profile photo of jendrian
    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    @ivran: Admittedly this is from another thread (this one)
    but he is quoting the bible in this post, defending its place in law-making, and more importantly in the other post he does admit to being a christian.

    [quote">auburnjunky
    Male, 30-39, Southern US
    6269 Posts Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:14:34 PM
    <---- This Christian believes Evolution is a tool of God. As is Science.[/quote">
  56. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    No I am a Christian. I believe Christ was the son of God. That, in it`s basic form, makes me so.

    I do not attend Church, because I believe you do not have to commit to some building with a bunch of fake, well dressed people to be spiritual.

    I do not conform to any certain sect of Christianity, because some of each sect has its parts that disgust me. The gay thing for instance. To each his own you know? Some Christians would have them wiped out.

    That being said, Jesus loves you all, and so do I.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    drat yea, Harry! Good for him. And how does this make him a bigot?
  58. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    @swoop408 I believe it`s the phrase "militant atheist"
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    Thank you auburnjunky, that was precisely my point. Maybe there needs to be another name for it, because when arguing that you`re a christian, people will inevitably group you with the group that advertises church going in a sunday suit, homosexuality being a sin, and belief in the bible as the word of god.

    That`s just what "being christian" entails, so don`t be offended if you dress yourself like the band, recite all the lyrics and like all the songs, but when people confuse you for part of the band you have to explain that oh, you`re not actually part of it.
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    username3415 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    looks like he just got done masturbating
  61. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    I`m not offended.

    I don`t mind explaining my position.

    I only ask that you respect it.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Then I`m a bigot as well.
  63. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    @jendrian Regardless, he should be able to label himself as whatever he wants without being judged, and, even more so, be able to believe what he wants without being labeled.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:04 pm
    @swoop408 The textbook definition of one, I would say.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    @username3415 Probably. I would bang my wanger all the time too if I had his job and money.
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    ZsaZsaGoar Female 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Is it me or did he just get hot?
  67. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    @ZsaZsaGoar Pretty sure it`s just you. Although, I don`t really think I`m a very reliable source on the attractiveness of males.
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    FinkStinger Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    I loved him in Deep Impact.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    People in AMUUUURICA gladly label themselves as Christian while other are scared to label themselves less gullible, being able to logically think and observe what is fed to them with critical thinking.



    AMUUUURICA!
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    I agree with him wholeheartedly. Keep your worship out of my government.

    The last thing I want is some quasi christian run state government, it would not be far from Iran`s ...


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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    I respect it auburnjunky (and ivran). Wherever anyone is, in the privacy of their own person, they may practice the ritual of 2-girls-1-cup for all I care.

    But once action is taken to include the tenants of their faith and forcing them into society, which admittedly already forces people to behave like a civilization instead of the rules of natural selection as with the rest of the living creatures. Then I, as an atheist living in a secular society that I particularly chose to live in, take offence.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    @ivran: Oh ok, I`m a christian too. I don`t believe in the bible... I don`t actually think Jesus was the "son of god" I think that`s all a metaphor, and moreover I also believe the whole character of "Jesus" in the bible is as real as the "jesus" from Harry Potter.

    I`m also a christian because I believe in "a" god... not the god of the bible, or anything that`s literally defined as an intelligent entity. I believe in the god of Einstein, more of a metaphor too for nature.

    I guess I`m a christian too, just because I say so
  73. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    @jendrian Christianity, I believe, is defined as believing in Jesus and all that stuff. I don`t think Christianity enforces the belief in the Bible in its entirety(As I know many Christians that don`t accept the Bible in its entirety).
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    "I don`t actually think Jesus was the "son of god"" That is the defining line of Christianity, from what I understand.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    oh I see, so to be a christian you have to believe that the stuff in the book is definitely true, but that the only book where it`s written may or may not be true
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    Daniel Radcliffe is an actor. The only thing that matters (to anyone that doesn`t know him personally) is his acting. His personal beliefs are irrelevant, and not a single f*ck should be given about them. Really, who do these celebretards think they are, anyways ??

    There are sites that are mainly for religious discussion (read-atheist/Christian flame wars). Is that what this site is being turned into ?? If so, maybe its time for the people who are just looking for current net content to go elsewhere, and leave all the butthurt militant whatevers here to be trolled by the mods, carving each other up for their(mods) amusement/entertainment......
  77. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    ""I don`t actually think Jesus was the "son of god"" That is the defining line of Christianity, from what I understand."

    Exactly.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    @lawndartsftw: if you don`t like the content, use another site, if you don`t like the comment section, don`t read it
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    OMG, an actor said something inane! Wow, that is totally new and original!
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    @Ivran

    Firstly - Grow up.

    Secondly - You`re talking about completely different things. Too many people have said that they wouldn`t vote for an athiest president for that to be a non-entity. As for your Alaskan analogy. I direct you to my first point.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    haha so let me get this straight, because I`ve had this conversation several times with other christians (and catholics, and evangelists...) who claim that the belief is true, but that the church is doing it wrong.

    So you claim that the story of a newborn from a land afar who was acclaimed as the chosen saviour, embraced his role and performed miracles to the spectacle of those around him, is definitely true. But because it was written by a mere mortal person, the book where the story originates from may only be true in certain parts?

    We better tell Daniel Radcliffe he may have been impersonating the saviour!
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    smart kid.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    I`ve got an angry, wet koala that says you guys need to get something differant to argue about besides religion.
    It`s getting old.


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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    @Buiadh How was my logic any different from yours? Both arguments have the same strength. Also, what people have said this?
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    @jendrian No, the exact details in the story portrayed in the Bible are up to the individual Christian to interpret and believe.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    @ivran: sure, that`s what I`m doing... I`m interpreting that the whole "son of god" thing is actually a metaphor from a fictional character like Harry Potter, and that "god" actually refers to nature, at least in that book.

    I`m cherry pickin` my own christianity!
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    @Gerry1of1: Go dry your koala elsewhere if you find religious arguments boring.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
    1810 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    @jendrian. You have a good day, too....
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    April 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    @bacon pie. I lol`d !!
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    Meh... nevermind. Bye!
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
    934 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Respect to Radcliffe. Respect.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    >>>This pretty much sums up Daniel Ratliff and Harry Potter<<<

    No, this sums up Daniel Radcliffe. I do admire him for being able to take the piss out of himself, though.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
    5874 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    Possible Jedi candidate? the younger ones seem to be afflicted with self disbelief until they learn the force. (After all, I`m just Harry etc).
    (No? alright, never mind then)
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Sigh. Laws "based on" the commandments weren`t based on the commandments. That`s just ignorance. All societies have basic laws that are about the same. Don`t kill, don`t maim, don`t steal, etc. These come about because, to live together, a few basic rules need to be followed. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with basic common sense. And, seeing as how societal rules like these pre-date "the commandments" by several thousand years, I reckon that`s all that needs to be said.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    Had to go back a couple pages to find my religious argument bullet statement.... Ah yes, here it is.


    -You are all wrong and I am right, there is nothing you can say to change my mind. I am all knowing and it is impossible for me to be wrong, because I am so smart. I know for FACT how the universe was created and how man came to be, and I also know beyond any doubt whether or not there is, or is not, a higher power.. Case closed.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    Ivran, theres nothing to argue about. Reagan was an actor and President. What are you trying to prove beyond that when talking to me? Ohhh thats right, you are so stuck in your air of Right that you dont recognize when you f.ucked up...
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    Xerasia Female 18-29
    1181 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    A-F*CKING-MEN
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    "Daniel Radcliffe is an actor. The only thing that matters (to anyone that doesn`t know him personally) is his acting. His personal beliefs are irrelevant, and not a single f*ck should be given about them. Really, who do these celebretards think they are, anyways ?? "

    No one should care what you have to say. Why should we bother debating with you or discussing your beliefs or ideas or opinions? They`re irrelevant and not a single fk should be given about them. Who do you think you are anyway??
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    Tobunshi Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    LillianDulci, they do have an impact on people, so some actors like to share their views. I`m not saying we SHOULD care about their personal lives, but lots of people do, so I`m sure you`ll figure out how to live with that fact.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    Tobunshi, I was quoting someone else.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    "Daniel Radcliffe is an actor. The only thing that matters (to anyone that doesn`t know him personally) is his acting. His personal beliefs are irrelevant, and not a single f*ck should be given about them. Really, who do these celebretards think they are, anyways ??"
    If you don`t care so much, why did you care enough to click on a link that clearly described DANIEL RATCLIFFE ON BEING AN ATHIEST ?
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    bankvole Male 30-39
    959 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    If there was a God, he/she would have sorted poor Daniel`s eyebrows
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    TheJ3553 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    @Gerry

    He could have been going through all the posts one at a time by click the arrows.
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    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    @Steelgrid I never argued with that fact. You used that fact to argue against my original comment on this post. I pointed out why Reagan was irrelevant to what I said and this post in general, and then you got all pissy about it.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    April 10, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    I guess you do have to have a certain kind of talent to do this...


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    Bountykat Female 18-29
    399 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 7:03 pm
    I want him like I have never wanted anything ever.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 7:13 pm
    Okay. Here`s the difference between Reagan, and Radcliffe.

    Reagan, never preached politics while he was an actor. He also never used his status as an actor to get elected to high office, he used his status as former Governor of California.

    Radcliffe is clearly using his status as an actor to make his point, because if he weren`t an actor, nobody would give a good God damn. Also, he is not a politician, so he should shut the frak up!
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    thelonious Male 40-49
    3309 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm
    If Daniel Radcliffe has some bearing on your life o your philosophy of life, you might want to sit and think about that.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4017 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    God damn brits. No just kidding, I hate that f*cking bulls*it too. However, America`s (long-term) problem is that we`re too big. Sure, you can say this in England, pop. 51 million, but even then you`ve got the Northern Ireland problem.

    In America, you have (1) the evangelical south, and (2) rural areas. Nice job, Daniel, being a militant athiest, the problem in America is our religous folks are both militant AND well armed....
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4017 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm
    "Also, he is not a politician, so he should shut the frak up!"

    Yeah, because its not like the voice of citizens matter in a polis....
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25417 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    Wow... hes kinda smart
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    MarkusT123 Male 40-49
    4085 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 8:58 pm
    "Radcliffe is clearly using his status as an actor to make his point, because if he weren`t an actor, nobody would give a good God damn. Also, he is not a politician, so he should shut the frak up!"

    One of the stupidest things Republicans have done is distance themselves from the influence that actors can have on the voting public.
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    Discobiscuit Male 18-29
    542 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    Old news?
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    April 10, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    Even if you`re religious, you have to admit that religion interfering with legislation is wrong.
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    Kilgore89 Male 18-29
    194 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    "Even if you`re religious, you have to admit that religion interfering with legislation is wrong."

    I don`t HAVE to do anything, but I WILL admit it so long as everyone else is willing to admit that atheism interfering with legislation is ALSO wrong.

    Trololololololololol.
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    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 9:44 pm
    @markust123 Yea, I myself don`t really think actors SHOULD have that kind of influence because actors these days are generally way more stupid than actual mentally-retarded people, but that doesn`t mean it`s not a valuable resource to take advantage of.
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    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    @Kilgore89 Just out of curiosity, is your username a reference to Vonnegut?
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    April 10, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    "I WILL admit it so long as everyone else is willing to admit that atheism interfering with legislation is ALSO wrong."

    Kilgore,

    If atheism ever did interfere I would agree, but since it is just a response to the question `do you believe is god` the only way atheism could interfere is by trying to outlaw belief in god and I would fight those who tried to do so. I don`t agree with the KKK but I will fight for their right to free speech.
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
    459 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 11:12 pm
    I really start to wonder if it is just a prerequisite for becoming an entertainer to be atheist or gay.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4793 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    "I WILL admit it so long as everyone else is willing to admit that atheism interfering with legislation is ALSO wrong."

    Atheism can not interfere with legislation unless religion interferes with it first.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4793 posts
    April 10, 2012 at 11:14 pm
    "Also, he is not a politician, so he should shut the frak up!"

    You are stupid.
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    wolladude Male 30-39
    378 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 1:27 am
    Usually the prerequisite for becoming a >good< entertainer is intelligence......

    "I really start to wonder if it is just a prerequisite for becoming an entertainer to be atheist or gay."
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 6:12 am
    @TKD: Brilliant retort!

    @Markust: One of the stupidest things Republicans have done is distance themselves from the influence that actors can have on the voting retards. (fixed)
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    artmunki Male 30-39
    176 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 6:35 am
    I`m surprised no-one is actially disccussing the point he`s making. The fact is that religious interference with legislation is almost entirely focused on restricting personal freedoms according to a certain set of religious beliefs - ie forcing those beliefs on others - whereas any action which could be interpreted as atheist interference with legislation is about expansion of personal freedoms - allowing people the freedom of choice on how to live their own life. Surely it can`t be too hard to see why one would be accceptable and the other not. This is the primary reason atheist/agnostics/assorted non-theists have such an issue with religion - if the faithful kept their faith to themselves everyone would get along fine, but they can`t seem to accept anyone not agreeing with their own small-mindedness.
  125. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 6:59 am
    "Usually the prerequisite for becoming a >good< entertainer is intelligence...... "

    lolno
  126. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:01 am
    "You are stupid." We seem to have a master logician here, folks. He just logically proved AJ wrong with one short sentence.
  127. Profile photo of ivran
    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:03 am
    "Atheism can not interfere with legislation unless religion interferes with it first." That`s not true at all, but, seeing your other post, I`m not going to really go into detail why because you`re just going to reply with some clever one-lined ad hominem again.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    37890 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:18 am

    So what if he`s an actor.
    Does someone lose their right to free speech based on what job the hold?
    It`s up to us to weed out who`s making a good point and who`s full of poo, be it actor, athlete, preacher or politician.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5811 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:21 am
    @jendrian No, the exact details in the story portrayed in the Bible are up to the individual Christian to interpret and believe.
    This is laughable. So if *every* christian interprets the Bible in their own way, then how can anybody say definitively what being "christian" is or what criteria are necessary to consider oneself as such.

    There is a reason there is an institution of the church, whether it be mormon, catholic, anglican, etc. and that is so that the rules and expectations of each denomination are outlined, INCLUDING their official interpretations of the Bible. If you want to go interpreting the Bible then maybe you should become a priest first, yes?
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
    438 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:35 am
    "then how can anybody say definitively what being "christian" is or what criteria are necessary to consider oneself as such."

    Patchgrabber,

    This is exactly the point, there is not one tenent or belief that runs through all of christianity, the term `christian` is so deluded it has lost any real meaning.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
    438 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:39 am
    "It`s up to us to weed out who`s making a good point and who`s full of poo"

    But Gerry then I would have to think about the issue, it is easier to disparage the messanger.
    (obvious sarcasm)
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 7:51 am
    I can respect his position and why he might say something like that but using buzzwords like militant comes across as a desire for assault rather than desire to defend his rights to believe (or not believe) from people who would oppress it via religious legislation. All the same it`s not as though he`s a leader in the government with such heavy sway that his words need picking apart to the degree where this could be confrontational.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    37890 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 8:42 am

    @ Otto67 - Sarcasm or not, what you said is true for way too many people.
  134. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5811 posts
    April 11, 2012 at 8:48 am
    This is exactly the point, there is not one tenent or belief that runs through all of christianity, the term `christian` is so deluded it has lost any real meaning.
    I suppose it is comforting to make up the rules as you go along...
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    Reason_ps Male 18-29
    14 posts
    April 13, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    he is also a wizard...
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    TheGuySmiley Male 18-29
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    April 15, 2012 at 11:32 am
    earth to radcliffe: the reason we have legislation is BECAUSE of religion. Ever hear of the 10 commandments? If it wasn`t for religion, there would likely be no legislation in place in the first place, and it would be a dog-eat-dog world with no rules.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
    1810 posts
    April 15, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    @thelonious. That was what I was trying to say....

    @lilliandulci. Wow, that escalated quickly....(Ron Burgundy)

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