Austin Police Shoot Man`s Dog

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 4 years ago

Police responded to a dispute at the wrong house & fatally shot the dog.Cisco was playing frisbee with his owner-Credits
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Female 399
I hope that cop has to watch his wife and children get fatally shot.
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Male 17,512
MacGuffin: [quote]"colonist" could also mean someone that talks out of their arse, or colon.[/quote]

No it couldn`t, except from your bent mentality.
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Male 17,512
MacGuffin: Your right, but our police don`t take bribes from the media for "Scoops" either.
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Female 20
If you listen to the video the whole incident happens in roughly 4 seconds. at around the :13 mark in the video. At the 9:10 mark the cop explains to another cop what happened. The accounts are so drastically different it`s sickening. From what I hear in the video
":14 Cop: show me your hands
:15 Cop: show me your hands
:16 cop: hey get your dog
:17 Shot fired."
What the cop tells his boss happened "the guy comes out from behind the tree, I tell him show me your hands, I`m walking up on him and telling him walk closer to me, I`m walking towards him, out of no where the dog (inaudible) The dog was coming at me, I back up behind, towards the back of the truck, the dog jumps at me i shot"

Very different.
It`s sad the cop will get away with it though.
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Male 1,059
Well, dang, the dog was blue! If that`s not the spawn of the Devil, I don`t know what is.
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Male 237
Wow. Police officer trespasses. Dog gets shot. Owner Blamed.

I can see the logic in that.
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Male 5,811
Quick, grab Obama`s cookbook before it gets cold!
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Female 2,602
Now that we`ve got my pun fully explained to the point of tedium, do you have any relevant views on the fact this scumbag of a US police officer shot this US citizen`s dog, then blamed him for it? Or is it only pedantry you`re interested in?
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Female 2,602
[quote]Explain the (sic) as used in your word play.

It`s a simple question really.[/quote]

I used "sic" to highlight that I was quoting the word "colonist" that Crakr used, and not the similar (and, co-incidentally, more correct) word "colonialist" that I used by contrast. "Colonist" was incorrect because America is not actually a colony any longer; it is a country established by the colonial ambitions of other nations that are no longer involved. More importantly, though, I used "(sic)" to indicate that directly-quoted word is the specific word I was making a word pun on, which is that "colonist" could also mean someone that talks out of their arse, or colon.

It`s a simple concept really, that I did explain in shorter form before.

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Female 2,602
>>>British Motorist Fined for Blowing His Nose

2003 Home Office Report on police corruption in England and Wales

A case involving police in Southern Wales<<<


1) Case was thrown out before it even came to court.

2) Is a document recommending proactive measures to avoid police corruption. Note: it is does not allege that police corruption is a significant unaddressed problem.

3) Yep, I agree, this was a pretty bad case. And the worst thing is the police officers got away with their actions. Well done for at least going and finding out whether something you believe to be true, is actually true. I wish others would follow your example, and learn how to argue intelligently for what they believe.
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Male 10,845
[quote">We have a hell of a lot more freedom here than you do in there and that`s just simple fact.[/quote">

Not really, in theory using the internet in the US is illegal fortunately in practice it isn`t though. What I really should mention though is that our CFR is ten of thousands of pages long, and enforced arbitrarily.
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Male 94
Fun how the Cop keeps trying to blame the owner :(
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Female 2,602
[quote]MacGuffin: And you believe YOU live in a `free country`? The UK is the most `Big Brother` of all the European countries m`dear. [/quote]

Actually, you`re right about something for once - the UK is probably the least `free` country in the EU. We imprison more people per capita than all of our EU contemporaries on the European mainland, except Poland, and we were stupid enough to get involved in Iraq when many of our EU partners were wise enough to stay out, or terminate their involvement far earlier than we did when it became obvious it had been a fools` errand. The US is a model of how we could become, if we`re not careful.

None of the above makes the way the US police regularly behave any more acceptable, however. And our police still don`t shoot people`s pets, or commit murder then cover it up for seven years before finally getting caught.
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Male 40
Loved that dog. The guy is a regular at my bar. Haven`t seen him since this happened. I hope he is well.
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Male 409
I live in this area and this has been on the news for days. Whereas a kid getting shot gets a 10 second mention. It is a mistake, it is a bummer, but it was a dog. Get over it.
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Male 625
My job requires me to enter other people`s property on a daily basis, and I`ve been bitten twice by dogs that don`t bite. Been charged at by countless more. I`m not going to defend this guy, because honestly I wasn`t there and its not worth the hate, but in my lifetime I`ve found few things scarier then watching Fluffy`s snarling maw coming at you with that tunnel vision that they get. Talk to any dog trainer or expert, and they`ll tell you that "my dog won`t bite" is the biggest joke there is.
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Male 17,512
MacGuffin: And you believe YOU live in a `free country`? The UK is the most `Big Brother` of all the European countries m`dear.

We have a hell of a lot more freedom here than you do in there and that`s just simple fact.
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Male 1,377
Explain the (sic) as used in your word play.

It`s a simple question really.
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Male 1,377
MacGuffin you pretend to be so intelligent and yet you can`t get the basic gist of a question?
The `nonpoint` I asked you, quite simply I might add, was why "if it was a play on words, why add the (sic)?"
If you need a further refresher it was because you made fun of Crakr for using the word `colonist` because you assumed it wasn`t real. Your exact quote: "Do you mean "colonists" (sic) as in people who talk out of their arse? Yeah, I do look down on them. Or did you actually mean `Colonialists`?" Then when called out you stated:"Actually, it was a play on words, and Native Americans *would* consider you to be colonialists rather than descendents of Colonists, but never mind." then you pulled the "My goodness, Smutley, you went to all that trouble to cut and paste from a dictionary, just to make a non-point?" So then I asked:"If it`s such a "non-point" then why don`t you explain why you did it?"

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Female 2,602
[quote]If it`s such a "non-point" then why don`t you explain why you did it? [/quote]

I believe I already did. If you put as much effort into criticising the many, many abuses of your police, government, military and prisons as you do in trying to find non-existing faults in statements made by people on the internet, maybe you`d live in a country that was actually free, rather than in one that talks about freedom a lot but never seems to actually practice it, as this video clearly shows.
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Female 2,602
[quote]P.S. We all know you are the queen of the thesaurus and dictionary copy and paste. We have seen you in action plenty of times. [/quote]

I know for a fact I`ve never copied and pasted from a dictionary on here. Can you find even a single example of me doing so?

Something tells me you`ll be as able to do that as eddy666 was able to find all the examples of police corruption in the UK on the same level as police corruption in the US that he alleged existed (but mysteriously was never able to provide examples of from reliable sources).
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Male 453
I heard the dog was slamming the cop`s head on the concrete sidewalk after dropping his bag of skittles. Totally justified.
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Male 1,268
"can i ask how the DRAT did that happen? you POINT at what you want on your sandwich and you WATCH them make it :|... "

He`s mocking whomever it was who said the same thing about cops.

I don`t like cops either. I doubt the majority of americans like cops. That said, calling for someone`s execution or even firing a cop over this incident is a bit silly. I love my dog almost as much as I`ve ever loved any woman. That said, it`s still just a dog. Yes it would suck ridiculously if some cop shows up out of nowhere and shoots her, but she is a pit bull, and if she were barking while charging at me, I`d consider shooting her myself based on her breed if I didn`t know her. I`d still expect copious amounts of money for the mental distress, but I wouldn`t call the cops life into question over it.
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Male 3,745
eddy666: can i ask how the DRAT did that happen? you POINT at what you want on your sandwich and you WATCH them make it :|...

if they drat up your meal thats YOUR fault :|
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Male 3,745
"Why is it the first thing this cop does is pull his pistol? I mean damn, that`s just wrong."

oh so when a DOG dies NOW its just wrong :|.
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Male 3,745
anyone shoots my dog gets to pay me about $10,000...i WISH someone would shoot my dog...
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Male 523
So guys, tonight this bitch working at subway got my drating order wrong. I`VE NEVER had a subway worker do anything good for me and my family. drat ALL dratING SUBWAY WORKERS. They all deserve to die and burn in hell!
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Male 550
Why does he have him gun drawn for a disturbance! F/UCK! I F/UCKING HATE COPS! BURN IN F/UCKING HELL!
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Male 550
Wow. I like how the pig is trying to blame him for killing his dog.
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Female 267
I`ve said it before, I`ll say it again: Cops are a bunch of jack booted thugs with an exaggerated sense of self importance. I have never once in my life had any cop do anything good for me, my friends or my family.
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Male 2,384
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Male 462
Cop cant make good judgment calls. He shouldn`t keep his job
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Male 37,888

Unfortunate, but it sounds like just an unfortunate mistake. He was sent to the wrong address about a violent situation, a dog charged him, he shot.

moving on.
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Male 523
@OldOllie
He did shoot a black dog...
But yea, drat this guy. Ida killed that bitch that gave the wrong address too. Nailed em both to a tree to serve as a warning.
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Male 15,832
I guess we`re both lucky that didn`t happen to me. When he asked me for my ID, I`d have said it was inside, then I`d have gone in and got my shotgun and blown his ugly f***ing head off.

So, why isn`t this sack of pig$#!+ under arrest for felony armed criminal action? From what I can see, he`s a hell of a lot more guilty than George Zimmerman.
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Male 7,378
Cops suck.
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Male 523
"Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:00:12 PM
"If it`s such a "non-point" then why don`t you explain why you did it?

P.S. We all know you are the queen of the thesaurus and dictionary copy and paste. We have seen you in action plenty of times.
Does it make you feel superior and better about yourself when you speak so condescendingly to others?"

Speaking of condescending."

Speaking of condescending.
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Male 321
"If it`s such a "non-point" then why don`t you explain why you did it?

P.S. We all know you are the queen of the thesaurus and dictionary copy and paste. We have seen you in action plenty of times.
Does it make you feel superior and better about yourself when you speak so condescendingly to others?"

Speaking of condescending.
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Male 523
@Dead_mind Because he was an amateur.
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Male 303
"Your shell case is rigth over there"
"No, its gonna be over there.
"Its rigth there"
"No, i wasent over there"
Wait.. waht?
Also, if its domestic abuse, dont draw your gun...
draw your tazer or other less then leathal wepon of choice
Dubble also... police still use old msn messenger?!
@intrigid
Im kinda split here... Both yes. but why draw your gun the first thing you do when you leave your car for a domestic dispute?
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Male 523
@FreedomFrie How do you know there`s no charge. I`m fairly positive the owner of this dog has every right to press charges.
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Male 523
@intrigid Interesting idea, but I don`t think that`s how the law works... Unless there`s proof to show that she intentionally provided the wrong address.
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Male 523
@wake_n_bake That`s fine and good, but does that give you the right to make assumptions about every police, even if the number of good police outweigh the number of bad police?
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Male 523
"Let`s see – first, by making a statement that I immediately demonstrated to be untrue (namely that an example of US police corruption and abuse of US civilians I discussed recently was from "3 or 4 years ago", when it was actually from this month), and by failing to be able to provide examples of UK officers behaving as badly as US officers despite claiming you could easily do so. "
MacGuffin, go read your damn link. Also, is that blog I linked false? Can you disprove it?
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Male 914
The person responsible for the death of the dog is the woman who gave the wrong address. She should bear the full burden of what happened.
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Male 670
@MacGuffin for a person so concerned about the use of appropriate and realistic words or their correct spelling, why on earth would you use the word "non-point"?
You might want to google it first
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Male 1,377
If it`s such a "non-point" then why don`t you explain why you did it?

P.S. We all know you are the queen of the thesaurus and dictionary copy and paste. We have seen you in action plenty of times.
Does it make you feel superior and better about yourself when you speak so condescendingly to others?
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Female 2,602
My goodness, Smutley, you went to all that trouble to cut and paste from a dictionary, just to make a non-point? :D
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Male 1,377
Macnuthin, if it was a play on words, why add the (sic)? The Latin adverb sic added immediately after a quoted word or phrase (or a longer piece of text), indicates that the quoted words have been transcribed exactly as spelled or presented in the original source, complete with any erroneous spelling or other presentation. The usual purpose is to inform the reader that any errors or apparent errors in the transcribed material do not arise from transcription errors, and the errors have been repeated intentionally, i.e. that they are reproduced exactly as set down by the original writer or printer. Sic is generally placed inside square brackets, or in parentheses (round brackets), and traditionally in italic, as is customary when printing a foreign word. Sic may also be used as a form of ridicule or as a humorous comment, drawing attention to the original writer`s spelling-mistakes and emphasizing his or her erroneous logic.
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Male 2,358
Oh Guffy, you`re so predictable. I could have literally written your response to my earlier post myself.
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Male 1,268
I did like the fact that someone actually thought a fairly common word simply didn`t exist. She`s a funny one.

Anyway, pets are property. He`ll be financially compensated, probably in excess. There are a lot of people in my neighborhood who walk there dogs unleashed, and/or let there dogs walk around in the yard/garage unleashed. There has been more than one occasion where I was walking my dog and another ran up barking. I`ve never pulled my gun on a dog, but I live in a nice neighborhood. If I were this cop, I don`t think I would`ve shot the dog, but only because I would`ve kept my gun pointed at the real threat.
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Female 2,602
Actually, it was a play on words, and Native Americans *would* consider you to be colonialists rather than descendents of Colonists, but never mind.
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Male 17,512
MacGuffin: col·o·nist noun
1 a member or inhabitant of a colony
2 one that colonizes or settles in a new country

Perhaps you need to consult a dictionary and quit being a ass yourself. You proved my point about you with your own text.
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Female 2,602
[quote] It is well known now that you have a highly UK centric view and look down your nose at us `colonists` as if we are inferior.[/quote]

Do you mean "colonists" (sic) as in people who talk out of their arse? Yeah, I do look down on them. Or did you actually mean `Colonialists`?
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Male 243
Police Kill Your Dog - No charge
You Kill Police Dog - Homicide
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Male 17,512
MacGuffin: It is well known now that you have a highly UK centric view and look down your nose at us `colonists` as if we are inferior.

But your country has virtually no privacy, CCTV cameras virtually everywhere, has had more riots than the US in the last 4 years, bureaucrats going around harassing people for your `television tax` and you `Bobbies` generally walking around being dicks to everyone.
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Male 329
"we all do different things when under stressful situations, so I don`t want to read too much into his body language"

So let me see if I got this right. It`s ok for police to kill a person or animal based on body language or nervous actions/ticks but it`s not ok to look at a cop`s body language or nervous actions when he might be/is at fault?

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Male 594
Bastard.
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Male 663
And I actually don`t smoke pot anymore. I made this profile back in junior high.
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Male 663
I`m not saying that cops don`t help society. My point is just that, by and large, that type of profession attracts the very type of people that tend to abuse that power.
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Female 2,602
[quote]eddy, of course you feel embarrassed. Guffy told you so, so it must be true. She`s always right. Just ask her. [/quote]
I`m pretty sure I`ve clarified a few times that I`m not always right, actually. I`ve even admitted when I`ve got specific things wrong on here: something I`ve never seen any of the louder, right-wing US police apologists on this site do. No, by contrast you keep right on insisting you`re right whatever evidence people provide to demonstrate you`re wrong: exactly like the police officer in this video did.
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Female 2,602
[quote]I just binged UK police corruption and this was on the first page of results. I know it`s probably not the most reliable document in town...[/quote]

You said it, buster. That`s your big proof of the scourge of police corruption in the UK? A blog? You`re funny. No, really.
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Female 2,602
[quote]@MacGuffin How so? I don`t feel embarrassed in the slightest.[/quote]
Let`s see – first, by making a statement that I immediately demonstrated to be untrue (namely that an example of US police corruption and abuse of US civilians I discussed recently was from "3 or 4 years ago", when it was actually from this month), and by failing to be able to provide examples of UK officers behaving as badly as US officers despite claiming you could easily do so.

You don`t have to *feel* embarrassed to embarrass yourself - you just have to act in ways that make other people see you`ve got nothing whatsoever to back up your uninformed views.
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Male 523
@MacGuffin
I just binged UK police corruption and this was on the first page of results. I know it`s probably not the most reliable document in town, but it`ll have to do until I have the time to actually do some serious searching.
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Male 2,358
eddy, of course you feel embarrassed. Guffy told you so, so it must be true. She`s always right. Just ask her.
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Male 523
@MacGuffin Who said this guy is getting away? Also, that link you posted furter down was on a cop getting thrown in jail after a shooting incident in 2005. Just because the article is recent doesn`t mean the incident is.
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Male 523
@MacGuffin How so? I don`t feel embarrassed in the slightest.
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Female 2,602
Just noticed my post was cut off below. It should have ended:

"As I`ve said many, many times before, Scotland, the UK and the EU aren`t perfect by any means, but I`ve yet to see a single example of police officers here getting away with the cynical crimes against citizens that the US seems to regularly experience and tolerate."
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Female 2,602
[quote]Aww, did I embarrass you? I haven`t started looking yet, but I will get around to it eventually.[/quote]
No, you didn`t embarrass me. You did embarrass yourself, though.
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Male 523
@MacGuffin
Aww, did I embarrass you? I haven`t started looking yet, but I will get around to it eventually.
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Male 523
@CrakrJak Also, yea, I`m willing to bet this had a lot to do with insufficient training. I would think a place like Austin would have better than this, though.
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Female 2,602
[quote]@MacGuffin I`m glad you`ve finally found someone that`s up to your standards. You two would make a great couple. :)[/quote]

How is finding those examples of UK police acting as badly as the US police working out for you?
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Male 523
@CrakrJak I think just a monetary apology would do instead of a new dog. Replacing a dog, especially one lost like this, doesn`t always do the trick. The poor bloke probably needs some time.
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Male 17,512
Why is it the first thing this cop does is pull his pistol? I mean damn, that`s just wrong.

I think the city of Austin owes this guy a dog, some amount for emotional distress, an apology from the officer and some re-training of it`s cops.
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Male 523
@MacGuffin I`m glad you`ve finally found someone that`s up to your standards. You two would make a great couple. :)
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Male 104
@EDDY666 Completely agree with you on that. His pistol should be taken away for some time.
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Male 523
@jav805 No one is arguing that this cop wasn`t a moron. I think people just need to be reminded that domestic violence calls aren`t a walk in the park. I think this cop needs to spend some time in the office instead of being on duty.
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Female 2,602

[quote]Hurt my dogs on purpose... I kill you. Cop or not, bulls**t reason or not, no matter. Badge just makes an off-center target. Think I`m kidding? Check my profile info.[/quote]

I like this bit of your profile: "I am usually attempting to be humorous when I post. You`re either smart enough to get it, or you`re not."

Class. :D
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Male 523
@wake_n_bake
Now you`re just being ignorant. Police show up to EVERY emergency call. They don`t just drive around to pick on you stoners like you think they do. Sure, there are some that abuse their power, but the same could be said about ANY profession(doctors, lawyers, and politicians are a few that come to mind). Statistically, it seems like car wrecks are a pretty common cause of death, and I know it sucks to get a speeding ticket - we`ve all had it happen, but I`m glad that there are repercussions for reckless driving, and especially driving under the influence. I bet I can find more examples of police helping society than I can of them hurting it.
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Male 104
<em>If you are responding to a domestic violence call you don`t know what to expect. For all the officer knows this guy is a drug dealer that has guard dogs that will go after anyone (no that is not that case in this instance but it could have easily of been.) Next moment a dog comes running and barking what would you expect the officer to do, let him approach?</em>

Um, if a cop is responding the CORRECT address I could see this as being justifiable, but this moronic cop can`t even get the right address. Should be removed from duty ASAP
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Female 2,602
>>@MacGuffin Yea, and I believe the last one posted here was from 3 or 4 years ago. I`m sure I could find quite a few examples of police corruption in your neck of the woods too, honey bunny.<<


You mean this one? - nope, it was from 5th April 2012.

As for finding examples of similar corruption within the UK police - go on then, find me one example of a police officer in the UK murdering a civilian in the line of duty, then having the investigating officer collude with the murderers in covering it up. If you can even find me an example of a police officer here shooting someone`s dog without cause, I`ll be impressed.

As I`ve said many, many times before, Scotland, the UK and the EU aren`t perfect by any means, but I`ve yet to see a single example of police officers here getting away with the cynical crimes against c
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Male 663
I`m not being a dick, I`m being honest. I think the whole reason people become cops is because they have power issues. If you wanted to really help people you`d be a paramedic or a fireman; you become a cop to push people around.
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Male 28
Hurt my dogs on purpose... I kill you. Cop or not, bulls**t reason or not, no matter. Badge just makes an off-center target. Think I`m kidding? Check my profile info.
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Male 523
@wake_n_bake

Let`s be an insensitive dick over one rogue new-story, why don`t we?
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Male 523
@MacGuffin Yea, and I believe the last one posted here was from 3 or 4 years ago. I`m sure I could find quite a few examples of police corruption in your neck of the woods too, honey bunny.
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Female 2,602
[quote]Oh look, another cherry-picked example of the big bad police to feed MacGuffin`s extreme nationalism. [/quote]

"Cherry picked"? - LOL. There`s a different example of American police screwing over American citizens available every other day. I could throw a dart at a newspaper blindfolded most days and find yet another example.
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Male 663
I mean jesus, the police have mace and taze guns, why jump straight to a gun for an old dog?
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Male 3,310
Was playing frisbee, eh? That wouldn`t be an appeal to emotion now would it?
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Male 663
Just another reason why I hate cops and don`t feel bad when one gets shot in the line of duty.
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Male 523
Oh look, another cherry-picked example of the big bad police to feed MacGuffin`s extreme nationalism.
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Male 2,358
I feel for the cop up to a point. But two minutes after he got out of that car it was obvious that the situation was not what he thought it was. His continued belligerence towards an innocent man was a disgrace.
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Female 2,602
I wonder how the Britsh police manage to cope with all those dogs that live here, given that they don`t use guns.
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Male 312
P.S. going to retract my first statement of my post defiantly not good debate material. Low blow
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Male 61
The officer should have been more apologetic. I hate when people act like they had a good reason for a mistake. It`s also annoying when you apologize and the other party gets all high and mighty, but it is your fault.
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Male 1,511
It was a mistake. Sucks for everyone. Put your self in the cops shoes and go run into the next domestic disturbance to save a women all by yourself. Domestic disturbances are the most dangerous calls for cops. I took his shrug as he feels bad about the whole thing. Altho I`d be really pissed if he shot my dog. Mostly because she`s a 4 lb chihuahua.
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Male 312
oops, European using cliches the actually word currently escapes me.
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Male 312
hmm...all the people against him are southerners and a European using . You could argue I am but you will find most posts from Europeans about Americans matter have similar rings to them.

So...if any of you that were approaching a possibly deadly situation saw a dog running at you would just let him come right up to you? You wouldn`t think for an instant that that dog could be dangerous and bite you? You would assume a barking dog running at you is a nice playful pooch? Just curious and making my point.

P.S. I don`t own any guns, I`m cop neutral.

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Male 2,670
Oh, and if he`d shot my dog, he wouldn`t be shrugging about it afterward. Hell no.
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Male 5,413
BritInvasion
He did have a choice but because it`s America, it`s shoot first.
America has the weakest police.
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Male 2,670
Another `hero` cop with a gun and poor impulse control. I call bull pooe on anyone who defends this moron because `he couldn`t know the dog was hostile.` My @zz he couldn`t know. He`d probably been itching to shoot something -- anything -- all day and he did so the first chance he got. Stupid, incompetent, and bloodthirsty is no way to go through life. I hope the cop gets anus cancer.
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Male 312
(ignoring the fact that wrong house was given because that`s not a factor. The officer was responding to information supplied.)

While this is a terrible incident under terrible circumstances the officer did not have a choice.

If you are responding to a domestic violence call you don`t know what to expect. For all the officer knows this guy is a drug dealer that has guard dogs that will go after anyone (no that is not that case in this instance but it could have easily of been.) Next moment a dog comes running and barking what would you expect the officer to do, let him approach?

Again, terrible incident but the situation was handled as an officer is trained to handle such situations.

The clip of him shrugging could be taken as him not caring or of him being apologetic, it is hard to see his facial expression. What is more disturbing is that SGT Daniels did not know the owners name when delivering a PR statement.
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Female 323
Oh look, another police scumbag. If he did that to my dog I would throw a bucket of acid at his face.
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Male 104
So it`s a mistake that the cop shot the dog, I`ve made many mistakes, running a red light, speeding, changing lanes without signaling, etc. Yet I have to pay for my mistakes...every single one of them. This cop needs to be taken off the force and maybe, just maybe be allowed to have a whistle.
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Male 11,740
"We all do things when dealing with a stressful situation." Shooting a dog and shrugging your shoulders is cold blooded. If that`s how he handles stress, he needs to be relieved of his weapon and probably his job. He at least needs to be pushing papers instead of pulling triggers.
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Male 11,740
This has lawsuit written all over it. There should be some loss of jobs and some money changing hands when it`s all over. That is textbook stupidity and police arrogance.
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Female 8,044
Link: Austin Police Shoot Man`s Dog [Rate Link] - Police responded to a dispute at the wrong house & fatally shot the dog.Cisco was playing frisbee with his owner-Credits
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