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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    Link: Why People Download Movies Illegally? - The Oatmeal makes some good points, as usual.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    totally true. The moment the music/film/TV industries start to make their content more freely available, the less of a problem piracy will be to them. They need to stop putting so much effort into fighting piracy and come up with alternative revenue models.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    Joffrey is a total douche
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    skytz1337 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    if you wore to arrest everyone that downloads anything illegal 90% of the internet would be in prison
    on a related note: how come you can watch it for free when its on air..but when you try to download it/watch it online its illegal?
    and before you say anything...yes..its wrong to write it on a dvd or smth..but just to download it and watch it..then deleted...whats the problem in that?
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    tee-hee... I did the same thing with Game of Thrones Season 1... hahaha!
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    @ skytz1337: first of all, you don`t watch *anything* for free on television---ever hear of a cable bill? you`re paying to watch those shows. I don`t know if the company pays to show certain programs, but I know it`s not free.

    Secondly, the reason why illegal downloading is discouraged is because you`re essentially stealing a film or show from the people who made it. If you go to a store and buy it, part of the proceeds go to the film company. If you download it, they get nothing and you get a free showing.
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    RPossum Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Would it be stealing if my friend gave me his screwdriver? He says here, I bought this and I want you to have it, and I said okay.
    Oh but I have this machine that lets me just take a copy of your screwdriver that you own, is that okay.
    Well hell yes that`s okay ole buddy of mine, after all it is my screwdriver.
    Great...but then the manufacturer calls and says hey now wait a second there. You can`t give him your screwdriver and keep it. I want to make another one.

    Oh yes, this will happen when they perfect 3d printing.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:32 pm
    I repeat: IN CANADA we have already paid the music & movie industry for our downloads:
    The Canadian government has a TAX on every casette, tape, blank CD and DVD sold. It hands that money directly over to the CRIA and whatnot! So I have already PAID THEM for downloading and burning stuff! In fact, it`s a crime to NOT download, since the chance they`ll refund my money = zero!

    Plus it`s should never be illegal to loan stuff to friends (peers).

    And what about used books, magazines, comics, dvds? THOSE can be re-sold, even for a profit! And they get none of THAT money do they?

    It`s greed, plain and simple. And you losing your freedom.
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
    1586 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 2:32 pm
    The queen is a total mean personhammer too.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    "you don`t watch *anything* for free on television---ever hear of a cable bill?"

    What if you watch it at a friend`s house? You don`t pay a cent, and your friend doesn`t have to pay any more than if s/he`s watching it alone. Or what if you watch it on a public tv? Not paying for that, either (though I suppose if you purchase anything at the place providing the tv, a tiny portion of what you pay will cover their cable bill).
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    so so so true
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    The truth hurts
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    uhmerikin Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    "c*nthammer"... hadn`t heard that one before.
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    Toider Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    And yet HBO posted over a billion dollars in revenue last year.

    Cry more anti-piracy chumps.
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    alpensepp Male 70 & Over
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    March 22, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    Punch the grizzly bear in the ass to win an ipad 3!
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 4:20 pm
    Plus it`s free!
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    incubus_inc Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    This cartoon makes my guilt feel good! Yaaaay!
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    I do think they deliberately make it nearly impossible to *not* break the law.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    ""c*nthammer"... hadn`t heard that one before. "

    Ive said it 4 times since GoT started....I cannot believe they used it in this comic. I have to honestly think someone saw one of my old posts before making this comic....BS!!!
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
    1674 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    What if you break into someone`s house, tie them to a chair, force them to watch Game of Thrones with you and then let them go with a warning... is that stealing? No! Then how could you consider downloading the show "Stealing"? Same thing.
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    simbha Male 30-39
    412 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    IMO, the issue isn`t that piracy is illegal. It is, after all, intellectual property and they (the hundreds of people involved in producing content) should be compensated for that.

    The Oatmeal strip illustrates the fundamental issue, though -- that companies are simply too lazy to develop alternative revenue models that allow people without access directly to the shows through `traditional` means to access it. In this case, the real shame is that HBO cannot provide this content through their website. That`s ludicrous and it hurts both the prospective viewer and HBO itself.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    Here`s the way I see it: pretty much everyone in a position of power connected to a major successful show/movie like that is absolutely filthy rich, from the writers to the executives to the producers to the actors. Most of them could retire today if they just bought a reasonably sized house, invested their money and lived like the rest of us.

    Society is just taking advantage of the same broken system that allows one profession to make millions while others who work just as hard (probably harder, let`s face it, acting and writing aren`t exactly topping out the world`s worst jobs list) make 30K a year, working 50 hours a week.

    So basically: don`t put your intellectual property out there for every to see if you don`t expect it to get copied here and there. That`s just how the world works, and no amount of rationalizing can change it.
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
    519 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    The oatmeal is right, as usual. Its hard to feel guilty about stealing when the product you`re stealing doesn`t exist in any other form.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
    934 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    And while the big corporations make the biggest fuss over "stealing" intellectual property, they are the biggest culprits of intellectual theft. They steal ideas all the time and turn them into money-making opportunities. Musicians, writers, producers borrow ideas all the time.

    The point made by this comic is 100% true as well. The corporations don`t want to change with technology because they have a good thing going. Why sell you a single season of a show for $50 when they can sell you cable for $75 a month plus however much for your "premium" (biggest misuse of a word ever...) channels.

    I design and remodel homes. If someone sells a design concept that I integrated into a home, I can`t sue them. I also don`t get residual money each time the house sells (royalties.) The entire industry has had it too good for too long, and the fact that technology is making them obsolete is their problem, not ours.
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    Wibble4321 Male 40-49
    405 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Wow! Some quite interesting points here. So, theft is not theft providing the person or entitiy you are stealing from is rich? Bill Gates leaves his front door open and you think it is okay to go in and help yourself because A he is rich and B he should have locked his door? Or even you can steal from him because he`s a douche for not having a yard sale and selling his stuff to you on your terms not his?

    I totally understand that it is frustrating that you cannot always get what you want when you want but you know what? Tough! You don`t have a right to watch their shows or films. Your civil liberties are not being infringed. You have the right to boycott if you don`t like it but you don`t have the right to steal it.

    Things are created for the purpose of making money, not for making the world a happier place. If you don`t like how they do it, get all your buddies together, vote with your feet and boycott until they change. You don`t have a right to have it your way tho
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
    2018 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Moral: Guy does not want to subscribe to HBO but wants a show they make so he downloads it illegally.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
    1292 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    you guys make long comments. in the end the people still have their own opinions. good job.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 8:05 pm
    @wibble: No, it`s not "theft" because I`ve already paid for it.
    Buy a clue bro...
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    Wibble4321 Male 40-49
    405 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    5Cats - what have you paid for? Can you elaborate in what way your comment relates to the topic? Do you own a DVD of something? Do you have a cable subscription? Um - trying to get a clue but your reply isn`t helping much.
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    Wibble4321 Male 40-49
    405 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 8:16 pm
    5Cats - ok - so your point is about a tax on blank media. Well, if you don`t buy blank media you don`t pay the tax. If you download and want to burn it you have to pay the tax on the blank media to burn it to. It is a nonsensical argument however since the predication is that you must illegally download in order to require media that you them pay tak on. Doesn`t really work.
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    tacks Female 18-29
    155 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    Not to mention, if you live in Canada you`re drated for this. "Not Available In Your Country" Oh yes, the exotic land of Canada >:|
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    Shillier Male 18-29
    260 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 8:24 pm
    @wibble4321.. i`m going to steal twice as much worthless stuff just to spite you
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    Yes Wibble: my point is that the "industry" already has my money.
    If I buy a casette tape to put in my answering machine, they get my money? So I can record my telephone messages? How is that `fair`?
    I buy a VHS tape to record TV programs to watch later (like TiBo) and they get my money.
    So? I download a show/song/movie and watch it, how are they harmed by this? I`d never pay $$ to view it, or it`s not available for `pay per view` at all.
    They pretend each and every download costs them money, but that a bare-faced lie.

    Yeah @tacks! Happens here at IAB a lot eh?
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    Matwix_2004 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    So far, that`s been the only reason why I`ve not been able to buy films, and have to resort to piracy.
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
    1625 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    OR, you could just wait for it to be released?

    its not like you`re really missing anything special...
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
    1674 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    i don`t know what you guys are talking about Game of Thrones season 1 is available to download on Amazon PRime as well as DVD and Blu Ray (and most likely on itunes too but i don`t do itunes).

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    faaaaq Male 18-29
    687 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    hm. the thumbnail onthe main page had me thinking this would be a picture of Hitler o.O
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    Wibble4321 Male 40-49
    405 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    Each and every download does cost them money. You should be paying to watch that content. We pay usually by watching broadcast media supported by advertising, subscription channels or buy buying the media.

    The defence of I wouldn`t have paid for it so it isn`t stealing is ridiculous. If you wouldn`t have paid anything for it it is worthless to you therefore you shouldn`t be watching it. If you are that fussed to watch it then you should be paying for it.

    Hey don`t get me wrong, I understand that downloading is convinient, easy, fast and seems like no-one gets hurt. The reality though is that it is wrong, no matter how much you try to justify it. I`m not the police, I`m not in the industry. Personally I`d have no issue with someone saying I know it is wrong, but I still do it because I don`t want to pay, don`t want to wait for DVD or whatever. I do have an issue with people trying to justify their actions by saying it is their right to do it. It isn`t.
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    Wibble4321 Male 40-49
    405 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    In summary I have more respect for an honest theif who says `take me as I am` than I do a dishonest middle/working class person who tries to justify their action under the guise of a right or by `sticking it to the man`...
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
    1526 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    I pirate everything.
    I don`t have a job or any money to pay for poo. Even when i had money from studying I only bought games I really liked and went to the cinema every now and then. But now I just pirate.
  41. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 10:15 pm
    @wibble: you fail to mention Canada, where we already HAVE paid!
    How about that, eh?
    So: if I pay for it in advance, I`m still stealing? What?
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    penguinazul Female 18-29
    471 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    I don`t think anyone really thinks it`s "right" to download music illegally; however, I mean damn, the entertainment industry wants us to buy their products but they don`t want to make them easily available to the consumer. How the hell are we supposed to buy something if it isn`t readily available for us to buy? Or, they make the prices so damn outrageous that no one can afford to buy whatever their selling. They bitch "Wah we lose money every time y`all don`t buy something" but they don`t make any changes to where they WOULD actually make them money in a decent way -- they`d rather just throw people in jail that don`t belong there.

    And people aren`t going to boycott poo because they don`t want to give up their precious technology. That`s probably what`s wrong with the world today, though; no one actually wants to get off their asses and do anything, they`d rather just sit and bitch.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 10:27 pm
    @penguinazul has it right: It`s all about what`s "illegal".

    Is sharing a CD illegal? How about the MP3 file of that CD? How are they different? Not selling, sharing.
    Is watching a store-bought movie with a friend illegal?
    Is selling a store-bought movie to someone else illegal?
    Even if you make a profit selling it? Like an old book or a comic?

    It`s all about greed and freedom.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2012 at 10:30 pm
    SO
    dratING
    TRUE!
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2012 at 12:49 am
    The Oatmeal wins again.
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    PvtDeth Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2012 at 2:06 am
    Word.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2012 at 4:13 am
    don`t forget, when downloading a torrent, you`re also seeding it so that others can download from you. This is what the companies go after the most.

    Maybe you can justify what you do by saying, "well, i wouldn`t have watched it if i had to pay for it" or something along those lines, but you have no idea what the people downloading it from *you* are doing with the video. They could be using it for much more nefarious reasons, such as training terrorists (especially in Canada)
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
    2068 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 5:04 am
    If I borrow a movie from my neighbor and rip it to my computer, it`s okay, but if I borrow it from someone I never met off the internet, it`s a crime.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 23, 2012 at 7:17 am
    this was made a few week before the DVDs came out
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    March 23, 2012 at 7:19 am
    @inversegrav

    "I do think they deliberately make it nearly impossible to *not* break the law."

    With so many prisons run by private companies, and the profit incentive for locking people up growing every day, it does make you wonder if you might be on to something there...
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 7:21 am
    @wibble4321

    "Things are created for the purpose of making money, not for making the world a happier place."

    Many people consider that a poor state of affairs.

    In any case, what you say is not the full picture; most people want to get richer to make themselves happier, so the end goal IS to make the world happier...or at least, your own little bit of it.
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    tobyvictory Male 70 & Over
    407 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 7:27 am
    The funniest part of this morality story is the adds on the torrent site.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2012 at 7:39 am
    Is sharing a CD illegal? How about the MP3 file of that CD? How are they different? Not selling, sharing.
    Is watching a store-bought movie with a friend illegal?
    Is selling a store-bought movie to someone else illegal?
    Even if you make a profit selling it? Like an old book or a comic?

    It`s all about greed and freedom.
    That is probably the smartest and most intuitive thing I`ve ever seen you write 5cats. :-)
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2012 at 7:41 am
    @penguinazul: Agreed. It`s not my fault that the entertainment industry didn`t anticipate or facilitate a change in the distribution medium of their product. They need to keep up with the times, and instead of doing that they just want to throw people in jail.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    That is probably the smartest and most intuitive thing I`ve ever seen you write 5cats.
    Well thanks @Patchy! You`ve made my day quite a bit brighter!
    I`ve been arguing about this since the 80`s when the first laws against casette tapes were passed. Recording vinal LPs off the radio? Illegal! Oh how far we`ve come!

    They could be using it for much more nefarious reasons, such as training terrorists (especially in Canada)
    @BlankTom: If Sears sells me a steak knife, and I kill someone with it, the sales clerk who sold it to me goes to jail? Also, why would I downloa terrorist training videos? Perhaps I`m researching a Paper for school? Can I buy those videos from a company? lolz!
    Apples & Oranges.
    Freedom vs Control
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
    1674 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 3:07 pm
    @5cats, your Sears analogy makes no sense. Also, i don`t know why you`re downloading Terrorist Training material but i think you should stop - you can get into a lot of trouble for that.
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    kittilia Female 18-29
    500 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 3:48 pm
    @blanktom:
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
    1674 posts
    March 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm
    @kittilia but i know which one you are

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