Why People Download Movies Illegally? [Pic+]

Submitted by: dm2754 4 years ago Funny


The Oatmeal makes some good points, as usual.
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Male 1,674
@kittilia but i know which one you are
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Female 500
@blanktom:
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Male 1,674
@5cats, your Sears analogy makes no sense. Also, i don`t know why you`re downloading Terrorist Training material but i think you should stop - you can get into a lot of trouble for that.
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Male 36,542
[quote]That is probably the smartest and most intuitive thing I`ve ever seen you write 5cats.[/quote]
Well thanks @Patchy! You`ve made my day quite a bit brighter!
I`ve been arguing about this since the 80`s when the first laws against casette tapes were passed. Recording vinal LPs off the radio? Illegal! Oh how far we`ve come!

[quote]They could be using it for much more nefarious reasons, such as training terrorists (especially in Canada)[/quote]
@BlankTom: If Sears sells me a steak knife, and I kill someone with it, the sales clerk who sold it to me goes to jail? Also, why would I downloa terrorist training videos? Perhaps I`m researching a Paper for school? Can I buy those videos from a company? lolz!
Apples & Oranges.
Freedom vs Control
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Male 5,811
@penguinazul: Agreed. It`s not my fault that the entertainment industry didn`t anticipate or facilitate a change in the distribution medium of their product. They need to keep up with the times, and instead of doing that they just want to throw people in jail.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Is sharing a CD illegal? How about the MP3 file of that CD? How are they different? Not selling, sharing.
Is watching a store-bought movie with a friend illegal?
Is selling a store-bought movie to someone else illegal?
Even if you make a profit selling it? Like an old book or a comic?

It`s all about greed and freedom.[/quote]
That is probably the smartest and most intuitive thing I`ve ever seen you write 5cats. :-)
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Male 406
The funniest part of this morality story is the adds on the torrent site.
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Male 2,850
@wibble4321

"Things are created for the purpose of making money, not for making the world a happier place."

Many people consider that a poor state of affairs.

In any case, what you say is not the full picture; most people want to get richer to make themselves happier, so the end goal IS to make the world happier...or at least, your own little bit of it.
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Male 2,850
@inversegrav

"I do think they deliberately make it nearly impossible to *not* break the law."

With so many prisons run by private companies, and the profit incentive for locking people up growing every day, it does make you wonder if you might be on to something there...
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Male 3,578
this was made a few week before the DVDs came out
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Male 2,085
If I borrow a movie from my neighbor and rip it to my computer, it`s okay, but if I borrow it from someone I never met off the internet, it`s a crime.
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Male 1,674
don`t forget, when downloading a torrent, you`re also seeding it so that others can download from you. This is what the companies go after the most.

Maybe you can justify what you do by saying, "well, i wouldn`t have watched it if i had to pay for it" or something along those lines, but you have no idea what the people downloading it from *you* are doing with the video. They could be using it for much more nefarious reasons, such as training terrorists (especially in Canada)
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Male 74
Word.
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Male 3,061
The Oatmeal wins again.
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Male 2,424
SO
dratING
TRUE!
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Male 36,542
@penguinazul has it right: It`s all about what`s "illegal".

Is sharing a CD illegal? How about the MP3 file of that CD? How are they different? Not selling, sharing.
Is watching a store-bought movie with a friend illegal?
Is selling a store-bought movie to someone else illegal?
Even if you make a profit selling it? Like an old book or a comic?

It`s all about greed and freedom.
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Female 470
I don`t think anyone really thinks it`s "right" to download music illegally; however, I mean damn, the entertainment industry wants us to buy their products but they don`t want to make them easily available to the consumer. How the hell are we supposed to buy something if it isn`t readily available for us to buy? Or, they make the prices so damn outrageous that no one can afford to buy whatever their selling. They bitch "Wah we lose money every time y`all don`t buy something" but they don`t make any changes to where they WOULD actually make them money in a decent way -- they`d rather just throw people in jail that don`t belong there.

And people aren`t going to boycott poo because they don`t want to give up their precious technology. That`s probably what`s wrong with the world today, though; no one actually wants to get off their asses and do anything, they`d rather just sit and bitch.
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Male 36,542
@wibble: you fail to mention Canada, where we already HAVE paid!
How about that, eh?
So: if I pay for it in advance, I`m still stealing? What?
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Male 1,526
I pirate everything.
I don`t have a job or any money to pay for poo. Even when i had money from studying I only bought games I really liked and went to the cinema every now and then. But now I just pirate.
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Male 431
In summary I have more respect for an honest theif who says `take me as I am` than I do a dishonest middle/working class person who tries to justify their action under the guise of a right or by `sticking it to the man`...
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Male 431
Each and every download does cost them money. You should be paying to watch that content. We pay usually by watching broadcast media supported by advertising, subscription channels or buy buying the media.

The defence of I wouldn`t have paid for it so it isn`t stealing is ridiculous. If you wouldn`t have paid anything for it it is worthless to you therefore you shouldn`t be watching it. If you are that fussed to watch it then you should be paying for it.

Hey don`t get me wrong, I understand that downloading is convinient, easy, fast and seems like no-one gets hurt. The reality though is that it is wrong, no matter how much you try to justify it. I`m not the police, I`m not in the industry. Personally I`d have no issue with someone saying I know it is wrong, but I still do it because I don`t want to pay, don`t want to wait for DVD or whatever. I do have an issue with people trying to justify their actions by saying it is their right to do it. It isn`t.
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Male 694
hm. the thumbnail onthe main page had me thinking this would be a picture of Hitler o.O
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Male 1,674
i don`t know what you guys are talking about Game of Thrones season 1 is available to download on Amazon PRime as well as DVD and Blu Ray (and most likely on itunes too but i don`t do itunes).

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Male 1,625
OR, you could just wait for it to be released?

its not like you`re really missing anything special...
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Male 2,551
So far, that`s been the only reason why I`ve not been able to buy films, and have to resort to piracy.
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Male 36,542
Yes Wibble: my point is that the "industry" already has my money.
If I buy a casette tape to put in my answering machine, they get my money? So I can record my telephone messages? How is that `fair`?
I buy a VHS tape to record TV programs to watch later (like TiBo) and they get my money.
So? I download a show/song/movie and watch it, how are they harmed by this? I`d never pay $$ to view it, or it`s not available for `pay per view` at all.
They pretend each and every download costs them money, but that a bare-faced lie.

Yeah @tacks! Happens here at IAB a lot eh?
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Male 260
@wibble4321.. i`m going to steal twice as much worthless stuff just to spite you
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Female 155
Not to mention, if you live in Canada you`re drated for this. "Not Available In Your Country" Oh yes, the exotic land of Canada >:|
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Male 431
5Cats - ok - so your point is about a tax on blank media. Well, if you don`t buy blank media you don`t pay the tax. If you download and want to burn it you have to pay the tax on the blank media to burn it to. It is a nonsensical argument however since the predication is that you must illegally download in order to require media that you them pay tak on. Doesn`t really work.
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Male 431
5Cats - what have you paid for? Can you elaborate in what way your comment relates to the topic? Do you own a DVD of something? Do you have a cable subscription? Um - trying to get a clue but your reply isn`t helping much.
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Male 36,542
@wibble: No, it`s not "theft" because I`ve already paid for it.
Buy a clue bro...
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Male 1,292
you guys make long comments. in the end the people still have their own opinions. good job.
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Male 2,031
Moral: Guy does not want to subscribe to HBO but wants a show they make so he downloads it illegally.
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Male 431
Wow! Some quite interesting points here. So, theft is not theft providing the person or entitiy you are stealing from is rich? Bill Gates leaves his front door open and you think it is okay to go in and help yourself because A he is rich and B he should have locked his door? Or even you can steal from him because he`s a douche for not having a yard sale and selling his stuff to you on your terms not his?

I totally understand that it is frustrating that you cannot always get what you want when you want but you know what? Tough! You don`t have a right to watch their shows or films. Your civil liberties are not being infringed. You have the right to boycott if you don`t like it but you don`t have the right to steal it.

Things are created for the purpose of making money, not for making the world a happier place. If you don`t like how they do it, get all your buddies together, vote with your feet and boycott until they change. You don`t have a right to have it your way tho
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Male 934
And while the big corporations make the biggest fuss over "stealing" intellectual property, they are the biggest culprits of intellectual theft. They steal ideas all the time and turn them into money-making opportunities. Musicians, writers, producers borrow ideas all the time.

The point made by this comic is 100% true as well. The corporations don`t want to change with technology because they have a good thing going. Why sell you a single season of a show for $50 when they can sell you cable for $75 a month plus however much for your "premium" (biggest misuse of a word ever...) channels.

I design and remodel homes. If someone sells a design concept that I integrated into a home, I can`t sue them. I also don`t get residual money each time the house sells (royalties.) The entire industry has had it too good for too long, and the fact that technology is making them obsolete is their problem, not ours.
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Male 519
The oatmeal is right, as usual. Its hard to feel guilty about stealing when the product you`re stealing doesn`t exist in any other form.
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Male 934
Here`s the way I see it: pretty much everyone in a position of power connected to a major successful show/movie like that is absolutely filthy rich, from the writers to the executives to the producers to the actors. Most of them could retire today if they just bought a reasonably sized house, invested their money and lived like the rest of us.

Society is just taking advantage of the same broken system that allows one profession to make millions while others who work just as hard (probably harder, let`s face it, acting and writing aren`t exactly topping out the world`s worst jobs list) make 30K a year, working 50 hours a week.

So basically: don`t put your intellectual property out there for every to see if you don`t expect it to get copied here and there. That`s just how the world works, and no amount of rationalizing can change it.
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Male 412
IMO, the issue isn`t that piracy is illegal. It is, after all, intellectual property and they (the hundreds of people involved in producing content) should be compensated for that.

The Oatmeal strip illustrates the fundamental issue, though -- that companies are simply too lazy to develop alternative revenue models that allow people without access directly to the shows through `traditional` means to access it. In this case, the real shame is that HBO cannot provide this content through their website. That`s ludicrous and it hurts both the prospective viewer and HBO itself.
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Male 1,674
What if you break into someone`s house, tie them to a chair, force them to watch Game of Thrones with you and then let them go with a warning... is that stealing? No! Then how could you consider downloading the show "Stealing"? Same thing.
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Male 2,700
""c*nthammer"... hadn`t heard that one before. "

Ive said it 4 times since GoT started....I cannot believe they used it in this comic. I have to honestly think someone saw one of my old posts before making this comic....BS!!!
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Male 770
I do think they deliberately make it nearly impossible to *not* break the law.
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Male 977
This cartoon makes my guilt feel good! Yaaaay!
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Male 646
Plus it`s free!
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Male 1,364
Punch the grizzly bear in the ass to win an ipad 3!
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Male 452
And yet HBO posted over a billion dollars in revenue last year.

Cry more anti-piracy chumps.
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Male 876
"c*nthammer"... hadn`t heard that one before.
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Male 25,416
The truth hurts
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Male 5,314
so so so true
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Female 2,674
"you don`t watch *anything* for free on television---ever hear of a cable bill?"

What if you watch it at a friend`s house? You don`t pay a cent, and your friend doesn`t have to pay any more than if s/he`s watching it alone. Or what if you watch it on a public tv? Not paying for that, either (though I suppose if you purchase anything at the place providing the tv, a tiny portion of what you pay will cover their cable bill).
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Male 1,586
The queen is a total mean personhammer too.
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Male 36,542
I repeat: IN CANADA we have already paid the music & movie industry for our downloads:
The Canadian government has a TAX on every casette, tape, blank CD and DVD sold. It hands that money directly over to the CRIA and whatnot! So I have already PAID THEM for downloading and burning stuff! In fact, it`s a crime to NOT download, since the chance they`ll refund my money = zero!

Plus it`s should never be illegal to loan stuff to friends (peers).

And what about used books, magazines, comics, dvds? THOSE can be re-sold, even for a profit! And they get none of THAT money do they?

It`s greed, plain and simple. And you losing your freedom.
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Male 1,122
Would it be stealing if my friend gave me his screwdriver? He says here, I bought this and I want you to have it, and I said okay.
Oh but I have this machine that lets me just take a copy of your screwdriver that you own, is that okay.
Well hell yes that`s okay ole buddy of mine, after all it is my screwdriver.
Great...but then the manufacturer calls and says hey now wait a second there. You can`t give him your screwdriver and keep it. I want to make another one.

Oh yes, this will happen when they perfect 3d printing.
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Female 1,798
@ skytz1337: first of all, you don`t watch *anything* for free on television---ever hear of a cable bill? you`re paying to watch those shows. I don`t know if the company pays to show certain programs, but I know it`s not free.

Secondly, the reason why illegal downloading is discouraged is because you`re essentially stealing a film or show from the people who made it. If you go to a store and buy it, part of the proceeds go to the film company. If you download it, they get nothing and you get a free showing.
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Male 2,552
tee-hee... I did the same thing with Game of Thrones Season 1... hahaha!
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Male 687
if you wore to arrest everyone that downloads anything illegal 90% of the internet would be in prison
on a related note: how come you can watch it for free when its on air..but when you try to download it/watch it online its illegal?
and before you say anything...yes..its wrong to write it on a dvd or smth..but just to download it and watch it..then deleted...whats the problem in that?
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Male 4,902
Joffrey is a total douche
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Male 1,178
totally true. The moment the music/film/TV industries start to make their content more freely available, the less of a problem piracy will be to them. They need to stop putting so much effort into fighting piracy and come up with alternative revenue models.
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Male 3,578
Link: Why People Download Movies Illegally? [Pic+] [Rate Link] - The Oatmeal makes some good points, as usual.
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