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72 Responses to US Soldier Kills 16 Afghan In Shooting Spree

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Link: US Soldier Kills 16 Afghan In Shooting Spree - WTF! Fallout`s gonna be messy with this one.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:51 am
    just boostin his kill/death ration
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:52 am
    No it won`t. He was crazy. Protocol was followed. He is in custody.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:55 am
    It`s ok when they dress up in uniform and kill our soldiers right? who cares.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    atheistalien, the difference is one are combat personnel the other are civilians. there`s a big difference.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Now all the libretards will come out of the woodwork here on IAB and say how it shows the US forces are no differant from the terrorists.

    Go ahead, jump on this isolated incident and make into your poster-child for stupid arguements. In the end it won`t matter. They`d hate us even if this never happened. Now they`ll use it as an excuse to kill 500 of us. And the world goes round and round, never changing.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    @paperduck I didn`t ask what the difference was, I know the difference. I just don`t care anymore. I`m kinda with Gerry1of1 on this. " And the world goes round and round, never changing."
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    OhNoFrodo Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    More protests, more flag burning and chants of "death to the US/West/Obama" and more unrelated innocent people are going to loose their lives over this...

    I am starting to think maybe we should leave them alone now to find their own destiny and trust them to make the right choice for their country
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    coffeekoneko Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    Where`s davymid anyway?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    Gerry1of1 sometime i come really near to think you are a good guy but you never fail to bring me back to reality.
    This is not an isolated incident, last year one of your beloved soldier was incriminated cause he was the chief of a "death squadron" that terrorized and killed lot of civilians. You know 1+1=2, is not isolated "incident"( as you like to call this slaughter), and i`m sure that we have notice of this two tragedies only but who know how many others facts like that pass under silence. Your country is based on war, like the barbarians you want to fight, no differnces, except on the money spent for weapons. You are the same scum. Your beloved soldier have killed kids two years old,such dangerous terrorists right? This man deserve to be bringed on the pubblic square but in Afghaninstan not in your country.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    I am thinking that if the actions are as it was reported, alcohol is involved or sheer boredom of a crazy person!
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    Fatninja01 and who gave alcohol to this man? As you know Afghaninstan is not famous for happy hours and bars.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    It`s tragic, plain and simple. For a soldier (or anyone for that matter) to go insane and kill people? It`s just tragedy all around.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    What? They burned a bible and he was just getting even.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    this is one of the consequences of deploying the same soliders 5 to 6 times. You cannot leave people in combat year after year, sending them back over and over again and not expect them to snap.

    I`m not at all excusing what he did, but this is what happens to people that spend most of their 20`s killing others.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Gerry1of1: a few more "isolated incidents": February 12, 2010 – 5 Afghan civilians including two pregnant women and a teenage girl were killed when US special forces raided a house in Khataba village, outside the city of Gardez where dozens of people had gathered at the home to celebrate the naming of a newborn baby. The U.S troops tried to cover-up evidence of the botched raid and admitted only month later that they had killed the civilians
    February 14, 2010 – 12 Afghan civilians were killed by NATO missiles during a major U.S.-led offensive against insurgents in southern Afghanistan. ISAF admitted responsibility for the civilian deaths, saying that two rockets missed their target and landed on a compound in the Nad Ali district of Helmand province. President Hamid Karzai ordered an investigation into the incident that occurred less than 24 hours after he had again warned foreign troops to take all precautions to protect Afghan civilians.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    April 12, 2010 – Three men and one woman were killed with 18 others injured when NATO troops opened fire on a bus in southern Afghanistan
    August 23, 2010 – 8 Afghan civilians were killed and 12 others injured when NATO-led forces raided a residential house in Tala wa Barfak District, Baghlan Province, Afghanistan. 9 civilians were also taken prisoner
    November 11, 2010 – An American soldier shot and killed a Afghan National Police officer in Kandahar, southern Afghanistan
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    Zuriel Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    wait wait... let me check and see if this affects me.




    ..... nope.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    Soldiers plotted to kill civilians
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    soldiers raping women
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    jamie76: "this is one of the consequences of deploying the same soliders 5 to 6 times. You cannot leave people in combat year after year, sending them back over and over again and not expect them to snap.

    I`m not at all excusing what he did, but this is what happens to people that spend most of their 20`s killing others."

    Absolutely spot on. Wanna wage war? Fine..impose a war tax to pay for it, and bring back the draft, then see how many people want send in the troops. Hell, elect any of the GOP candidates (except for Paul, who I`m not a huge fan of) and you`re voting for a war with Iran.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    They should give the man a hearing, and when the conclusion to his guilt/Innocence are made he should be handed over to the nation that he committed the crime in for the punishment of their selection.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    @jtre`s "us soldiers raping women"

    Firstly, those aren`t US soldiers. I`d be surprised if they were american`s at all, but no, ankle shoe`s, not even boots, and shirts tucked into their pants? Yeah, no. Most likely, not even rape, just some actor`s.

    Furthermore, detainee`s are pretty much the only female iraqi`s NCO`s would have any extended unsupervised contact with. I did a lot of "stuff" with a lot of detainee`s. Rape was never on the table, and those who would disregard this rule weren`t competent enough to ever work in that field in theater.

    @Jamie: I disagree. I`m almost certain this`ll end up be a first timer. Going back multiple times wasn`t as big a deal as the initial shock to me.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    It would be nice if the American top brass did what RoboPatton suggests, but American precedent in similar cases is the guy is going to sent home, tried at show trial and discharged back into the general population without honorers and no pension, with reduced pay.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    @Scuzoid: I`m not sure that your assertions can be taken as gospel, but considering that the web page I linked to was undeniably biased, I`ll give you the benefit of the doubt. My Dad, and both grandfathers served our country, so I have no desire to smear our armed forces, but I do take offense at the notion some people have that we should actually be cheering this guy for killing these civilians, because "they do it too". (I`m sure you`ve seen that argument on the internets, and don`t be surprised if the right-wing talking heads, and even the GOP candidates attack Obama for apologizing for this incident). My feeling is that it`s in our best interests to hold ourselves to a higher standard.
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    Lardcarcass Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    @jtrebowski
    I was about to go on a rant about the reliability of your sources, but I concur with your last statement.

    @RoboPatton
    You are partly right. It will not be a "show trial". If all is as it seems at this point, when he is found guilty, he will spend the rest if his life in Levenworth. Unfortunatly, we are all too soft and squishy in this country to hand out the capital punishment which it sounds like he deserves. That death sentance would also go a long ways towards placating the Afghans.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    "My feeling is that it`s in our best interests to hold ourselves to a higher standard."

    Well, clearly. That said, it isn`t Vietnam over there. It isn`t Nazi europe either, but for the most part, westerner`s aren`t seeking revenge against muslims. Most DO pity and look down on the arabs, but that doesn`t lead to rape and murder, just a nonchalance about killing hostiles and an annoyance when forced to be around any of their civilians.

    Thing is, their combatants aren`t any different. The seasoned don`t care who they`re killing when it`s a hostile target, and view western civilians in the same annoyed perspective I view Arab civilians. You guys(civies) are all pumped on vengeance and rage, because, you simply don`t get to do anything about it.

    Meanwhile, the freshly indoctrinated Al Qaeda/USMC grunt is going to be trigger happy.
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    avail9988 Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    Maybe he was really offended when he saw that bs spin your put on the headline "Muslims destroy Christian / Jewish graves" on your website and decided to take revenge. What have you done IAB?
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    PopCap Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    Double bonus. When these soldiers get shell shocked to Hell, they come back to the mainland and are recruited for Law Enforcement.
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    TkA Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    http://www.LittleScroll.com

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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    That said, it isn`t Vietnam over there

    That doesn`t make it any less of a disastrous nation building campaign. Thus we should cut our losses and leave.
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    if this was in the US or in the UK the man would be considered a terrorist I bet hes not tried in the country he committed his terrorist crimes in!
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 7:01 pm
    wait let me see if Zuriel is a mean person....... yep
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    for mean person I mean a c.u.n.t!
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    @Gerry1of1
    "Isolated incident"... That phrase reminds me something,
    maybe something important that everybody should look at
    as an isolated incident too...

    Thinking...

    Oh, RIGHT!!! USA going into Irak because some idiots decided
    to kill random civilians in another country... Deja vu
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    Nice move America. Way to win the hearts and minds. Your puppet regime won`t even outlast your occupation. Go on, declare `victory` and leave.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:34 pm
    Human life means nothing to these barbarians. There will be much less fallout over this than there was for burning their pooty Koran.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:37 pm
    "Human life means nothing to these barbarians. There will be much less fallout over this than there was for burning their pooty Koran."

    LOL, until I read "Koran", I thought you were talking about US soldiers.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    "Libertards?"

    Conservatism from a gay atheist?
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    dubtac Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 12:08 am
    Death smiles at everyone. Marines smile back. That is all.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 12, 2012 at 1:19 am
    If Obama knows what`s good for him and America, he`ll turn the soldier over to the Afghans for domestic justice without barring the death penalty. At least he should get a court martial in theatre and swift execution. Then there should be a full review of military immunity from prosecution from war crimes. I think all clear cut cases of murder in theatre should carry a mandatory death penalty. That would send a good message to US frontline soldiers that these atrocities are not to be tolerated.

    After the trial, Obama should announce an immediate scale back of operations and and troop numbers and then when the dust settles a little, announce a complete withdrawal ahead of the elections.

    On the plus side, I wonder if this man will have single handedly brought an early end to the war and occupation of Afghanistan.

    If only it would convince this and future administrations of the futility of occupation of muslim countries.
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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 2:38 am
    Saving the world sixteen bodies at a time...
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 3:32 am
    so when we heard that muslims destroyed a cemetery in Libya, we get tears in our eyes, and curse them out. When 16 innocent muslim people die, nothing, other then maybe they deserve it. I lost hope in humanity and i hope an earthquake wipes us all out.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 12, 2012 at 3:34 am
    Follow-up press coverage suggests that Karzai and the Afghanistan parliament are saying that they want the US out.

    Will this mean that the country is left with a hostile government even before the Taliban can re-assert authority? What will the US do?

    Will they demand regime change again? I can`t see how they can find another bunch that will be any better; they`ve pretty much dredged the barrel of power grabbing sycophants already.

    Despite the presence of US troops, the country is still a base for anti-western militants with a will and a way to reach out to the US mainland and they will be able to operate more overtly so once foreign troops withdraw.

    We`re f`ed either way.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 4:16 am
    Yes Draculya "who seed wind harvest storm" we use to say. And is not "despite" is "cause"
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 12, 2012 at 5:14 am

    Guy goes postal, do what we do when a guy goes postal. Put him on trial. He did it in a foreign country? Then they get to try him. Sucks for him, but nothing to be done about it but hand him over.
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    mrslayer Male 50-59
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    March 12, 2012 at 6:08 am
    remember 9-11?? how many civilians died ?? are we even yet??
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 6:30 am
    PTSD.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 6:32 am
    mrslayer i think we have killed 10 time more people and your logic is old also for a kindergarten child.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 7:22 am
    Two wrongs don`t make a right mrslayer.
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    collinh Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 7:34 am
    "remember 9-11?? how many civilians died ?? are we even yet??"

    if that`s the case then I`m not looking forward to when Japan decides to get even for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, those were civilians after all.

    also you`re stupid to think that regular Afghan citizens had anything to do with 9-11. It would be like saying anyone who goes to church is represented by the westboro baptist non-nice individuals.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 12, 2012 at 7:48 am
    @mrslayer. I hope your children are drafted.

    No wait, you`re in Canada. You`ve not got anything to get even for.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 8:21 am
    That doesn`t make it any less of a disastrous nation building campaign. Thus we should cut our losses and leave.
    I guess the US gov`t has never heard of a sunk cost before. The only reason they stay now is so that they don`t look stupid for failing to "bring democracy" to Afghanistan.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 12, 2012 at 8:48 am
    it`s nice to see how much "we" are "helping" the Afghan people
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 12, 2012 at 8:52 am
    "The only reason they stay now is so that they don`t look stupid for failing to "bring democracy" to Afghanistan."

    (1) too late

    (2) The democratically elected president and parliament has told them "thanks, but now it`s time to f off"
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 8:56 am
    So when the Taliban going to blow itself to Ahalalalalalalalaaaa for doing exactly the same on a much larger scale???

    Oh look holier than thou Eurotwats who would`ve guessed!! Shouldn`t you be bombing Lybia or Syria and b**ching at us for the same??
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 9:41 am

    I can haz tacks dollerz bak now plz?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:01 am
    The democratically elected president and parliament has told them "thanks, but now it`s time to f off
    I`ll believe they`re a democratic nation after the US is gone for a year.
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    Hedkwab Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:19 am
    A guy went awol and killed some Afghans? AMERICA WAS PLANNING THIS ALL ALONG!! AMERICA IS BAD!! HURR
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:25 am
    @piperfawn

    Is this part of the warmonger zionist jewish/USA plan along with the SS unit?? IZ CONPIRACIEZ!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:26 am
    Weren`t they supposed to make us pay for kill Osama too??? How`s that working out?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:28 am
    @Hedkwab

    You were`nt there when we took the vote??? Geez it was 49% no 51% yes murder the civilians. While we`re at it new vote lets salt the friggen earth there and be done with it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:34 am
    "Those who break wind harvest ass" --Tofucius
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 10:47 am
    McGovernor why don`t you take your four rags and move your fat ass in Afghaninstan and do the brave in the middle of the parents of this slaughter. No, instead you prefere to spit some nonsense sh.it from your parent basement while you type your keyboard with yours greasy KFC fingers.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 11:46 am
    @piperfawn

    Essshhh you`ve learned nothing it`s not KFC it`s Doritos. D-O-R-I-T-O-S try them they`re delicious then mabey the stick will fall out of your ass you Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi wannbeing muthaf**ka!!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    It`s no big secret that McGovern gets his panties in a bunch when people here start US-bashing. I understand, I don`t care much for people bashing Canada, but whenever McGovern puts up pics of us seal-clubbing or putting too much mayo on a sandwich or whatever, the difference is that I can shrug it off and laugh at some of it. Also, I make it known that I don`t approve of things like seal-clubbing, whereas in my position McGovern would likely defend it. Unless you`ve lived in a country outside the US that has to deal with the US on a regular basis, it`s not always apparent how little of a sh*t the US gives about other nations. I know people now are going to point out the amount of foreign aid the US gives, but hey, Mitt Romney gives to charity too. Just sayin`.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    LIES!!! patchgrabber`s a closet CLUBER!!!!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    From reading McGovern`s posts and everyone elses` I find it rather ironic that McGovern`s in his 30s, then again look at piperfawn`s most recent comment. Has the word "adult" suddenly taken on a whole new meaning?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    @Cajun247

    Yes I find that lifes too short to be well like you.

    @patchgrabber

    It`s pickeled chicken fetus cream and fries you nasty ass mofo I don`t mind pickeled chicken fetus cream and sammiches!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    It`s pickeled chicken fetus cream and fries you nasty ass mofo I don`t mind pickeled chicken fetus cream and sammiches!
    Eloquent in its brevity.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    Right back at ya McGovern. ;)
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    March 12, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    lawlz

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