TSA Nabs Suspected Al Queda Terrorist

Submitted by: fancylad 5 years ago in


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Male 53
thats why when i wanna blow poo up i use the complimentary wheelchairs they give there so i dont subject myself to a second search
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Male 97
@TKD Master, true except for Tim Mcvay, Unabomber, Charle Manson, Jim Jones, and too many to count.

Ps I get it that its a joke (and a funny one)but I put on my party pooper pants this mourning and cant get them off.
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Male 4,793
That is ridiculous. Everybody knows white people aren`t terrorists.
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Male 79
my only comment on this is: i`ve seen people out there use children to transport different types of contraband. when it comes to my safety, better believe i dont want to take any chances.
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Male 214
a pedophile he is
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Male 25,416
Thats discusting... this is way to far.
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Male 10,855
@patchgrabber

Okay you know I just realized Transport Canada is in fact a government organization, so yeah it goes back to what I said earlier about some companies having a cozy relationship with politicians in Ottowa.
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Male 300
The whole point of TSA is to let you know you are a slave or at best a subject. All the rest of their act can be called American Kabuki.
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Male 5,811
@Cajun: Well I believe it was Transport Canada that hired the security companies, and those were really all based on which company put in the lowest bid for the tender. The airlines had no say in the choosing, but they had some say in regards to rules of what was allowed on, within reason e.g. how many oxygen tanks are allowed.
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Male 10,855
[quote]The `consumers` as you put it would have been the airlines, but they had 0% say in which company ran security, and they hated all of them anyway[/quote]

...and how did they have no say?
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Male 5,811
@Pinkrhoid: Well admittedly I don`t know all the powers of the TSA, but at least here in Canada screeners HAVE to ask before they do anything, and if you say "stop" at any time then they have to stop. However, just because you don`t consent to a search doesn`t mean they are obligated to still let you fly. Can`t have it both ways.
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Male 1,239
[quote]Yeah, but the point is that there COULD be people using children to smuggle stuff. It happens all over the world, hell there`s even been people using animals.[/quote]

Ya, and you COULD be running a child sex slave, meth and bomb lab, while serial killing people. Not likely but you COULD be so we should let people come and search you and your belongings whenever you come to or from your home.
Sorry, but it`s not right or legal to seize and search me or my property without a warrant or at the very least probable cause based on a real observation. Hypothetical suggestions don`t cut it.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Lambert is under utilized...[/quote]
As soon as I read `Lambert` all I could think of was Splinter Cell.

[quote]Worse for you maybe (in the short term), but considering that as you said the rules changed on a daily basis I`d say it`s because the consumers thought other security companies` measures were less intrusive thus the rules changed in response to what the consumer wanted.[/quote]
Sorry but no. The `consumers` as you put it would have been the airlines, but they had 0% say in which company ran security, and they hated all of them anyway. Also, the measures were not set by the security companies for the most part, it was a combination of Transport Canada and airlines, so I suppose your notion of the companies "running everything themselves" was not exactly going on in the context you meant.
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Male 663
Yeah, but the point is that there COULD be people using children to smuggle stuff. It happens all over the world, hell there`s even been people using animals.
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Male 792
[quote]rediculous [/quote]

Ridiculous.
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Male 1,404
Never in history has the US Federal Government have had a higher percentage of educated doctors and lawyers elected to office or appointed that when returned to private practice would find themselves bared to practice there trade in there own State.
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Male 17,511
kittehdee: After TWA went bankrupt, and closed it`s hub in St. Louis, I`ve heard a lot more complaints from people that the Chicago and Dallas airports are overcrowded and flights delayed.

Lambert is under utilized and could be used as a major hub again, to relieve overcrowding and delays, but for some odd reason they seem to want to put their passengers through hell and keep ticket prices high.
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Male 315
Something to keep in mind. Yes this is rediculous and completely unnecessary and doesn`t help but their logic isnt that the kid is a terrorist. Think about this for a second. If the TSA let kids in wheelchairs and old people with canes through without a check where would a smart enemy hide his weapons?

Like I said though ultimately it doesn`t help at all because 9/11 IS OVER AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON!
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Male 15,271
USA, you`re Al Qaeda`s biatch.
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Female 6,381
Has the TSA ever published a report on how many bombs and armed terrorists they have actually detected with their frisking and scanners?
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Male 86
In the meant time, while swabbing this 4 year old`s cast, a real threat slips by in a turban wearing a ceramic ball bearing explosive vest. Wouldn`t want to check that guy, cuz that would be racist.
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Male 554
phuk this country... really the US and it`s "laws" just blow my mind
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Male 15,832
Yeah, but if that kid`s name is Osama, I want to know what he`s packing in his diaper.
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Male 15,510
The terrorist have already won, that is not a secret to anybody
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Male 621
@Baelzar: "Security THEATER. Not actual security."

Couldn`t have said it better myself.

This nonsense is an unnecessary invasion of privacy and a waste of time.
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Male 1,871
Why all the random shootings in schools when there are others who deserve it much much more?
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Male 10,855
Though on top of which that pay rate you mentioned I think is the result of a cozy relationship your company had with politicians in Ottowa, or maybe the state government. They can setup ridiculous licensing schemes which keep competitors out of the market allowing them to keep prices up and wages and quality down.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Letting the private companies run things was way worse imo.[/quote]


Worse for you maybe (in the short term), but considering that as you said the rules changed on a daily basis I`d say it`s because the consumers thought other security companies` measures were less intrusive thus the rules changed in response to what the consumer wanted. This is opposed to a bureaucracy that insulates itself from market forces, and seemingly no matter how bad the PR it won`t reverse course.
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Male 835
Yep - looked like a threat to me. Glad the TSA was on it to protect us all.
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Female 803
I hate flying out of both Midway and O`Hare. Seriously, Chicago airports are miserably. They`re crowded (which is expected), unorganized, and the TSA agents there are incredibly unfriendly and not helpful in the slightest.
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Male 1,399
Security THEATER. Not actual security.
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Male 2,384
america for the fail
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Male 5,811
@MeGrendel: I agree that they don`t produce measurable results, but what you`re saying is why bother have security cameras when they don`t actually stop anything. Their presence does serve a purpose, but the real problem as to why we will never do an Israeli model of profiling is because people here get all offended that "How DARE they think of ME as a possible threat!" How exactly are you supposed to:
1)Have security measures that make people feel safe BUT that
2)Don`t upset them or make them feel profiled or violated AND that
3)Actually work make flying safer

It`s just not possible to do all that.
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Male 17,511
Cajun agrees too ?

:faints again:
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Male 5,811
@cajun: When I said "here" I meant North America in general. I also agree that why bother with screeners when you don`t do things properly. As to your comment about letting private companies run things, here in Canada all screeners are emplyees of private security companies like Aeroguard or Guarda, and the government places tenders for these companies to bid on. I had started screening just after 9/11, and at that time here it WAS run by private companies. The ones who had the most say over restrictions were airlines, and the rules changed on a daily basis. Also, when I started screening for this private company, I was paid $6.85/hr. Minimum wage was $6.60 at the time and the janitors started at $7.00/hr. Letting the private companies run things was way worse imo.
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Male 10,855
[quote]I just wish to hell they would show some RESULTS[/quote]

I`d think there would actually be some results if private companies were allowed to have their own screening methods. That way the consumer could see a trade-off between level of security vs intact dignity other than this outrageously humiliating one-size-fits-all policy.
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Male 8,552
patchgrabber-"Every idiot flying wants special treatment "

I never said ANYone wants, nor deserves, special treatment. I just wish to hell they would show some RESULTS (as opposed to giggling over scanner images, fondling women, exposing peoples privates, hiring people who are into child porn, waste money on `transgender training`, moving drugs, stealing money and items from travelers bags).

Will all the bull they`ve pulled, they`ve failed on every attempt to actuall accomplish anything.
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Male 1,625
You got what you deserved, people. You let them incrementally take steps to "up security". You were made to be afraid, and you allowed these decisions to be made without protest. "Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither." Welcome to 2012, where everyone is a terrorist until proven innocent.
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Male 10,855
[quote]I`ll be the first to admit that many of the policies are plain BS. Airport security here is all smoke and mirrors.[/quote]

Well can you at least agree it`s the same case in my country?
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Male 10,855
[quote">As if screeners can wave a magic garrett wand and tell the terrorists from the normal flyers.[/quote">

So why have them in the first place? All they`ve done is inconvenienced MILLIONS of people with nothing to show for it other then well, videos of them inconveniencing people. Now this agency`s set to expand itself with a federal SWAT team. Bureaucrats for everyone!
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Male 192
If you want to skip a metal detector and not get searched, then take the bus, moron. search youtube. TSA is already setting up at truck stops and buss depots in my state of TN. Sad Sad world. My uncle is in the milatery and got stoped by TSA and detained for having a swiss army knife when released they gave him back his rifle, case of chemicals( he was doing a seminar on explosives...) but kept his swiss army knife. TSA is a JOKE
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Male 5,811
[quote]That sounds like strikingly similar circumstances that promoted sex offender registries. Nevermind the ramifications, we got to keep our children safe even it means sacrificing a peace of our dignity.[/quote]
Let me be clear, when I say appearance of security, I mean just that, the APPEARANCE. I`ll be the first to admit that many of the policies are plain BS. Airport security here is all smoke and mirrors.
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Male 10,855
[quote]The rules are clearly outlined.[/quote]

They`re also nebulous, ridiculous, and created by people who have very little, if any, accountability or visibility to the general public.
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Male 5,811
@MeGrendel: Your insult aside, they definitely do deserve the same happiness and right to go to Disneyland. However, as I said before, the rules concerning wheelchair searches are not a new thing. These people should have known and accepted that the chair and child would be searched. Every idiot flying wants special treatment because they "aren`t a terrorist". As if screeners can wave a magic garrett wand and tell the terrorists from the normal flyers.
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Male 10,855
[quote]a peace of our dignity[/quote]

good heavens that should say "a piece"
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Male 10,855
[quote]patchgrabber agreed with me ?[/quote]

What about me? On this issue I totally agree with you as well.
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Male 5,811
@Crakr: Well when you`re right you`re right. No one messes with Israeli planes and for good reason. They had the shoe bomber pegged months before he tried to detonate his nike pumps.
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Male 8,552
patchgrabber-"Maybe they shouldn`t have taken their kid with a broken leg who needs a wheelchair to Disney then."

This just in: Handicapped people do not deserve fun nor do they enjoy the right to travel. (idiot)

Just to inform the ignorant, Disney is very wheelchair friendly.


TSA
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Male 10,855
[quote]so the security agencies like the TSA have to try to give the appearance of added security[/quote]

That sounds like strikingly similar circumstances that promoted sex offender registries. Nevermind the ramifications, we got to keep our children safe even it means sacrificing a peace of our dignity.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Your logic is the logic of surrender from square one. Be aware of that.[/quote]
The rules are clearly outlined. If you are flying it is YOUR responsibility to know the rules and abide by them. If you don`t like the rules, don`t fly. If that`s the logic of surrender, then how about you just suck it up and tolerate a pat down or two.
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Male 5,314
what a child molester! another child should be patting him down!
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Male 17,511
patchgrabber agreed with me ?

:faints:
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Male 10,855
[quote]If no kids or wheelchairs were ever searched, how long would it take for someone to notice that they weren`t being screened?[/quote]

Given enough time anyone can figure out how to bypass a defense, so that point is moot.

[quote] Or do you think terroists wont use children to achieve their goals?[/quote]

That`s an excuse for violating thousands if not millions in public? Please.
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Male 5,811
[quote]TSA will not report due to "security concerns", but the answer is 0. They have not found 1 bomb. The entire system is designed to control the population emotionally.
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Their bomb count is likely zero, mostly because only an idiot would try to BRING a bomb onboard. However the system is not designed to control you, it is this way because after 9/11 you and your fellow countrymen lost their sh*t and demanded more security, but too much security means less tickets sold, so the security agencies like the TSA have to try to give the appearance of added security, but not be too strict as to discourage people from flying.

You b*tch and moan over increased security procedures, but when someone ACTUALLY hijacks or blows up a plane, you b*tch about lack of security. Crakr is right, the Israeli model is the best.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Also, Israel has no qualms about `profiling` people to get searched.[/quote]

I`d leave that part out, anyone can be a terrorist.
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Male 10,855
For once fancy I appreciate the sarcasm, and no I`m not being sarcastic.
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Male 17,511
blobby5 is correct the TSA hasn`t found any terrorist plotters, they have needlessly harassed millions of people though as well as miss quite a few dangerous things on people boarding planes.

I wish we would adopt Israels style of air security. They background check everyone that reserves a ticket, checks on their lodging and rental car arrangements, checks their future and past travel plans and more. Anyone buying a ticket `last minute` gets a thorough search and all the checks listed above completed before they board the plane. Also, Israel has no qualms about `profiling` people to get searched.
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Male 144
"does any one have a credible article or study showing how many bombs, guns or actual dangerous things they have found?"

TSA will not report due to "security concerns", but the answer is 0. They have not found 1 bomb. The entire system is designed to control the population emotionally.
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Male 39,948

I feel so much safer.
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Male 17,511
That is ridiculous.
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Male 1,122
@tedgp

Because of resources....that means you have to find a white americanized family (sorry but profiling exists) where all members are zealots for whatever cause and willing to sacrifice themselves and their children and their grandparents and who have all managed to get valid passports, all so you could discretely plant explosive on the crippled boys chair.

well if you do that then you win.
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Male 234
"If you want to skip a metal detector and not get searched, then take the bus, moron."
Someone always says this.... What happens when the TSA starts checking busses. "Learn to drive". And then when they stop and search all cars? "Learn to walk" and then when they stop and frisk everyone outside? "Learn to never leave your house". And then they search your house? Then what will you say??? "Damn, should have put my foot down when this started"

Your logic is the logic of surrender from square one. Be aware of that.
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does any one have a credible article or study showing how many bombs, guns or actual dangerous things they have found? I always see them drating up, and never actually succeeding...not that that means anything

on a separate note, I always thought it would be a funny TV show to see how much crap you could get on an airplane. probably not the best way to stay out of prison, but it would be an awesome show.
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Male 626
"I flew across Canada with some weed in my overnight kit i forgot about a lighter in my coat pocket and a pocket knife in my back pocket of my jeans and got absolutely no hassle :)

CANADA!"

In America, TSA would have shot you on rhe spot.
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Male 5,811
[quote]I understand your point but... this isn`t always an option xD[/quote]
You can`t always get what you want. Maybe they shouldn`t have taken their kid with a broken leg who needs a wheelchair to Disney then. Drive, bus, train, there are many options that don`t include searches.
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Male 5,811
@caker: CATSA aren`t police, when I worked for them I found small amounts of weed in a few people`s bags. I didn`t give a drat and it was my discretion whether to report it or not. I chose not to. Now if you have a brick of coke in your bag that would be a different story...
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Male 3,285
@rpossum why wouldnt they? Terrorists will use ANY means necessary to achieve their goals.
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Male 168
I flew across Canada with some weed in my overnight kit i forgot about a lighter in my coat pocket and a pocket knife in my back pocket of my jeans and got absolutely no hassle :)

CANADA!
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Female 2,674
"If you want to skip a metal detector and not get searched, then take the bus, moron."
I understand your point but... this isn`t always an option xD
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Male 6,737
Hang on, is someone using Israel as an example of good security? lol.
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Male 234
This is what the whole TSA thing is REALLY about: Get kids used to submitting to needless searches.

Gotta get em young, this is how you `gently` defeat a people. One tiny step at a time, one generation at a time, one maliable mind at a time.
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Male 16
If America wasn`t so politically correct and embraced profiling like the Israelis do we wouldn`t have this nonsense. With the Israelis you would hardly notice that you had been evaluated unless you were of course from a country or group with known terrorist activities and you met the right profile. But in America, out of pure ignorance, if one suffers, all must suffer.
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Male 768
Yep, I won`t be visiting the almighty USA ever!
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Male 1,122
That guy did his job well but he they should apply some profiling to help with their common sence.
1 Dad with child in wheel chair...maybe worht a search.
1 Dad, 1 Mom, Siblings, and grandparents and kid with wheelchair on the way to disneyland.
No way...not in a million years would terrorists put all that together as their plan to take the plane.

Use your head.
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Male 6,737
Holy crap!

Incidently, I flew from Edinburgh > Heathrow > Finland and back with a locking knife in my bag that I`d forgot was there. Nobody picked it up.
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Male 1,678
Strange video. It makes more sense to me to criticize people when they don`t do their jobs.
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Male 1,803
I`m off to New Yawk in September for a Vacation. The stories I hear from people in my office about American security and the TSA in particular make me sigh. America, the land of the paranoid.
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Male 3,285
TSA were doing their job fancylad. Or do you think terroists wont use children to achieve their goals?
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Male 5,811
This person is an idiot. The TSA worker performed his job textbook from what I saw. If no kids or wheelchairs were ever searched, how long would it take for someone to notice that they weren`t being screened? This dumb person is the same person who would deride the TSA if someone DID use a kid in a wheelchair to sneak a bomb on.

SOPs are that you get the person to lean forward so nothing is hiding between their back and the chair, then they must pat down the child gently and then inspect the chair. If you want to skip a metal detector and not get searched, then take the bus, moron.
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Male 14,331
If they picked the obvious choices they`d be branded a racist so they just pick everyone.
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