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Date: 03/24/12 04:30 PM

27 Responses to Smackdown At Starbucks Shareholder Meeting

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    burbclaver Male 50-59
    878 posts
    March 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    Link: Smackdown At Starbucks Shareholder Meeting - Starbucks defends its support for gay marriage.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
    2343 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    No smackdown here; People asking questions in a polite, respectful manner, and receiving answers in the same vein.
    Would that our politicos acted similarly.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 1:29 pm

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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Good for having corporate cajones. What the hell difference does it make to these religist busybodies if gay people marry? In Canada, the legalization was made quickly and without any fuss after courts said the Charter of Rights was on the side of same-sex couples. Today, the only difference is that gay partners you see on the street may have a legal bond between them. B.F.D.!! It doesn`t bother me or anyone else I know in the slightest. And I`d go have a Starbucks coffee in support if I liked the taste of burnt beans - THAT`S an issue!!
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
    459 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    BS....they cannot say they are not political.

    They sell COFFEE! If I am a shareholder that would be ALL I want them to concentrate on. This is a play very much for special interest on the backs of others.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    Wow... that was a decent arguement by both!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Some of you may not have picked up on my subtle comments, but I am gay. Naturally, I am in favor of gay marriage.

    That said, I fail to see how it is any of Starbuck`s business. Stay out of politics. If the goverment say gays can marry then they get spousal company benefits. If the gov`ment says the can`t, it`s not a companies role to change social mores.

    I don`t want Chick-fil-A against me, nor do I need Starbucks with me.
    Corporations are not people and are not entitled to opinions on matters like this.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    That`s why I get my coffee at the corner gas station or the barber shop.

    Oh, and Gerry is gay. That is all.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32825 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    vv Well said @Gerry1.

    Wait, what? You`re gay? ZOMG!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    I don`t drink coffee, but if I did I certainly wouldn`t pay $5 a cup for it, no matter who was selling it.

    As far as a company taking a position on controversial societal issues, that`s something they should avoid. No matter what position you take, as a company these days, you risk loosing business because of it.

    Unless it`s an issue that directly effects your businesses bottom line, like taxes, government regulations or trade, it`s better to stay neutral.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
    1754 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    I love Business gurus below me who don`t own a business. Y U NO TAKE MY ADVICE STARBUKS!? I BUSINESS MASTA!
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    @Crackr:
    They`re probably playing the long game. Most young kids support gay marriage and their biggest clientele are young hipsters who think it`s a good idea. They won`t lose much business supporting it and the PR value of speaking out in favor of it is worth something. If you`re a pretentious kid who hangs out at Starbucks to work on your screen-play then you`re probably the sort to enjoy a dash of politics with your coffee. Especially if it`s activism without activity. It`s a sound strategic move for Starbucks.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    Call me cynical, but I`d say 99% of the reason that Starbucks voted for this is because that was the way the wind was blowing and they knew it made good business sense for them to take a position, because most of their clientele fall within a demographic that either don`t care about this issue or actively support gay marriage.

    It`s the same cynical bandwagon jumping as occurred when Obama and his cronies belatedly de-criminalised gay service personnel, after having had the gall to block a court judgement that had *ordered* them to end the discrimination anyway. In both cases, the parties concerned were merely taking a populist position that they didn`t actually care about, but which they hoped would reflect well on them in the eyes of people whose opinions they were trying to influence.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm
    Piss off!! I`will never live my life according to anyone else. Narrow minded idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I agree that corporations are definitely not people and should not be recognized as such by the supreme court. However, I would argue that gay marriage should be addressed by these companies for a simple reason: health insurance. If Starbucks is willing to support gay marriage, that means they`re willing to offer plans for their employees that cover married same-sex couples.
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    skine Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    "I don`t drink coffee, but if I did I certainly wouldn`t pay $5 a cup for it, no matter who was selling it."

    Neither would anyone going to Starbucks.

    Well, I guess you could spend $5 on coffee if you ordered two 20oz cups, but that`s obviously something different.

    And you can spend $5 on a cup of a mixed drink, but that`s obviously not just coffee.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    Any publicly held corporation that takes an official stand on either side of a controversial political issue is breaching their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders by alienating half of their customers. I think this would be an interesting lawsuit on behalf of the shareholders who are the ones who will pay the price for the absolutely stupidity of this purely political decision by stunningly incompetent management.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 10:29 pm
    @OldOllie: Pretty much every corporation makes political donations, usually to both parties at varying degrees. I`m not sure this is all that different.
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    ShudBWorking Male 18-29
    86 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 11:23 pm
    Not sure how this is a smack down, he is simply answering the questions in a very respectful and professional manner.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 11:30 pm
    "How To Be Slick"

    I love our ruling class.
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    simbha Male 30-39
    412 posts
    March 25, 2012 at 5:45 am
    OldOllie: "Any publicly held corporation that takes an official stand on either side of a controversial political issue is breaching their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders by alienating half of their customers. I think this would be an interesting lawsuit on behalf of the shareholders who are the ones who will pay the price for the absolutely stupidity of this purely political decision by stunningly incompetent management."

    This is an overly simplistic view of market management and investor relations. Starbucks products are not durable goods - people don`t simply buy one over an extended period of time - so they don`t respond in the way that you`re making it out to be.

    Also, I`ll point out that Starbucks announced its support for the gay marriage resolution in Washington in mid-to-late January 2012. Since then, SBUX shares have risen by around 16%, compared with only about 10% for the rest of the NASDAQ.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
    3446 posts
    March 25, 2012 at 7:55 am
    @OldOllie: Pretty much every corporation makes political donations, usually to both parties at varying degrees. I`m not sure this is all that different.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    March 25, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    win
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
    934 posts
    March 25, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    Stick that up your ass and pretend not to like it, christians.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
    1511 posts
    March 26, 2012 at 12:13 am
    I`m Christian, and I don`t think the state should ban same-sex marriage. But I also don`t think the state should have ANYTHING to do with "marriage" straight or otherwise. Just have legal partnerships and have a "wedding" or "marriage" with whoever you choose.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
    2377 posts
    March 26, 2012 at 11:22 am
    starbucks didn`t need to do this obvious set up. they already have the gay hipster crowed
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    zombunny Female 18-29
    2525 posts
    March 26, 2012 at 8:00 pm
    WHY DOESN`T YOUR BUSINESS DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE I HATE?

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