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Date: 03/20/12 02:01 PM

39 Responses to Organic Food Vs. Conventional: The Showdown [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    Link: Organic Food Vs. Conventional: The Showdown - An oldie but a goodie, and it`s been around facebook lately. If you like falsified studies, that is.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
    878 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Which is better, the high numbers or the low numbers? I`m not a frigging chemist so I don`t know what this means. I want vegetables in my vegetables, not minerals :)
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    Thdot Male 30-39
    658 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    You know its wrong but post it anyways? What is wrong with you?
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    Tobunshi Male 18-29
    678 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    I got angry until I saw the "falsified studies" thing in the description. I was ready to post paragraphs explaining how wrong this is.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    That`s mind-blowingly fake! I know very little about nutrition, but I know fakery when I see it. Look at the tomato comparison!!! O_o
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    March 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    This only makes me mad.
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    big_al_38 Male 50-59
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    March 20, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    This study has been misquoted often. Food is food. Science is complicated ! Go to school!
    www.soilandhealth.org/ 06clipfile/RCE/rceALL.html
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
    626 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    Even if this was real, organic farming produces less food, and in a world with 1 billion starving people, I think it would be better to eat a little unhealthy to save thousands of starving children.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Better than starving to death.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    March 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    Organic agriculture is unsustainable. All you greenies should be campaigning against it!
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    captkava Male 40-49
    257 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    "organic" is more about what`s not in it and about what`s not involved in its production.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    randomxnp

    there is no evidene of that at all and it is actually the other way round.

    about 1/3 of any crop is lost each year due to conditions (live or enviotmental) and that is about the same amount of crop that was lost before the use of chemicals.

    also, chemicals destroy the soil and make it unusable and so does mono-cropping.

    I do like though how you know nothing about this issue but feel that someone your opinion is right.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 20, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    burbclaver

    pray little simpleton that civilized society never collapses because you are the type of moron Darwin spoke of when he stated that the weak do not survive.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 20, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    We knew this already, right?
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    megavidiot Male 30-39
    901 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    "Organic agriculture is unsustainable. All you greenies should be campaigning against it! "

    STFU and go read The Omnivore`s Dilemna before talking again.
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    Stonardsftw Male 18-29
    321 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 4:01 pm
    I brought Organic grapes once. There were dead spiders in them.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    March 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    Funny, Rutgers University doesn`t seem to support this table

    >http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/bearr...
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
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    March 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    That`s why I like GMOs. They can make them healthier than organic.
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    TrustusJones Male 30-39
    61 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    It looks to me like the table is comparing soil nutrients. It says nothing about the soil ingredients (milliequivalents?) or yields. Organic soil contains organic fertilizers (worm castings, manure...). Conventional soil(?) would contain chemical fertilizers like nitrates and phosphates. It all depends on the mix.
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    Arcval Male 18-29
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    March 20, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    @TrustusJones:
    It`s comparing the mineral levels in unit weights of veg grown in too differently treated soils, one treated organically, one not.
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
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    March 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    obviously its a fake, the guy who conducted the research is named Fir E Bear (Furry Bear)
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    this just in... agricultural scientists at the Fir E. Squirrel Laboratory are working feverishly to confirm the findings...
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    TrustusJones Male 30-39
    61 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    @TrustusJones:
    It`s comparing the mineral levels in unit weights of veg grown in too differently treated soils, one treated organically, one not.

    This is the problem. It doesn`t specify the make-up of either soil. All organic/conventional soils are not equivalent. Especially if they are too differently treated.
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    TrustusJones Male 30-39
    61 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    I`ve seen worse convenient names. Sometimes parents seem to hate their kids.
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    Mister_C Male 18-29
    663 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    What`s a snap bean?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    about 1/3 of any crop is lost each year due to conditions (live or enviotmental) and that is about the same amount of crop that was lost before the use of chemicals.

    also, chemicals destroy the soil and make it unusable and so does mono-cropping.

    Source or GTFO.
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
    1250 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 6:27 pm
    All the food is poison
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    OMG. There really IS (or was) a Fir E. Bear. Link here.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
    2842 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Organic means that it might kill you.
  30. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    OK, that`s it. If I ever have a daughter, I`m going to insist that she name her teddy bear "Firman Edward Bear." That is too cute. =^.^=
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
    2424 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    READING? pass
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    clockwork208 Male 30-39
    835 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    Made of people.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    Where`s the column for E.Coli?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 9:38 pm
    The original study was actually comparing mineral absorption values in different types of soils, but someone altered the table to be `organic` vs. `conventional` instead of `highest` and `lowest`. I posted it anyway because like I said in the description that it`s been circulating around again and I can`t stand it. Here`s the Table from the original study.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
    621 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    Here`s the link that jendrian tried to post earlier in unbroken form:

    Rutgers.edu - Misquotes in "Variation in Mineral Composition of Vegetables"

    Quote: "A study conducted at Rutgers University (Bear et al., 1948) is frequently misquoted as evidence supporting the position that organically grown vegetables are significantly superior in minerals and trace elements to conventionally grown vegetables. In reviewing the original publication, one can clearly see that this was not the intention of the study nor does it give support to this premise."
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    March 20, 2012 at 11:26 pm
    to much information for my internet mind
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    jdavg3 Male 40-49
    26 posts
    March 21, 2012 at 12:27 am
    Stop messing up the internets with your facts
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7562 posts
    March 21, 2012 at 12:49 am
    Good- glad someone has already corrected this, I get fed up with keep saying that organic is not necessarily better and that misqoute never helps!
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
    3061 posts
    March 21, 2012 at 7:58 am
    Whatever hippies

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