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52 Responses to Off-Duty Chicago Cop Shoots, Kills Innocent Woman

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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 5:56 am
    Link: Off-Duty Chicago Cop Shoots, Kills Innocent Woman - Why can`t we just get some new cops with lower `stress` levels...
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 8:12 am
    There is a solution:

    FREE DQ DILLY BARS!
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Please don`t be black, please don`t be black, please don`t be black, poo. Please don`t be a white cop, please don`t be a white cop, please don`t be a white cop....

    This country is about to be set on fire.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 27, 2012 at 8:15 am

    2:48 "Justice for Trayvon" headline held up. Can we stay focused, people!

    I`m gonna say the same thing here I did for the Martin shooting... we have no info. All we know is someone shot and someone died. We don`t know what lead up to him shooting at them.

    I`m not pro-cop by anymeans, but I am anti-supidity. Get your facts before making up your mind.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 8:40 am
    I didn`t get any of the fact but...


    LETS GO SET SOME OB DA WHITE BOYS ON FIRE!!!!!
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 8:43 am
    Exactly what I was thinking, HolyGod.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:20 am
    So, I`m assuming this was a state where anyone can carry a gun, although I doubt an off-duty officer is allowed to carry his issued gun when he`s off-duty, but I could be wrong. Why was he investigating anything when he was off-duty?

    I hate officers who act like they`re on duty when they aren`t.
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    Naz14 Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:22 am
    I bet you the cop wont get any kind of jailtime or anything.......just cause they let cops be dicks and get away with it!
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:26 am
    In before some right-winger complains about how black on white crimes never get reported.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Reminded me of this
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:37 am
    I would imagine officers could be required to carry when off duty in case of need.

    Again all we have is a video and a few facts. But the situation does seem troubling on its face. Guess we`ll have to wait and see.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:40 am
    agree with holygod, i wonder where me and my heavily armed diverse group of friends and neighbors will fit in?
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    dirtysteve00 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:45 am
    `under serious, microscope`
    WTF?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 9:49 am
    I would imagine officers could be required to carry when off duty in case of need.
    Since I don`t know a lot about specific carry laws in the US this might be true, but since when is a normal citizen (i.e. an off-duty cop) SUPPOSED to carry a gun?
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:18 am
    Any citizen with a permit to carry can do so when he chooses, why would an off duty cop be any different. You`re still a cop even when you`re off duty. Would you like it if you were being mugged and an off duty cop decided not to intervene on your behalf simply because he was off duty? Of course not.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:18 am
    And now we wait to find out the colour of the police officer`s skin...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Hi @Naz14! It`s the "Chicago Way"...

    In before some right-winger complains about how black on white crimes never get reported.
    @FoolsPrussia: Wait, what? Two blacks are shot and THAT is your take on it? Weird.

    In some places the police are REQUIRED to carry a firearm while off duty. idk for sure, but I`m betting Chicago is one of those places.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:31 am
    sad thing is this probably wont get nearly as much coverage as it should because of the whole Trayvon Martin thing...i had to search my ass off just to find this video of this.
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:36 am
    "So, I`m assuming this was a state where anyone can carry a gun"

    lol no, Illinois is still the only state in the country where you CAN`T get a concealed carry permit.
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    dkstudios Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:48 am
    Dirty steve, I laughed way harder than I should have.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:55 am
    5cats: I`m just responding to the way certain posters have been commenting on these stories recently.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 10:58 am
    This is because cops today are taught to treat everyone they see as a threat with intent to kill.
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    jeepjones Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 11:03 am
    RACE WARS!
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 11:09 am
    umm yea racsim is dead in America...sure.

    again, a black person is shot and the shooter is not arrested though it is clear it was an unjustified shooting.

    white people, keep acting like you are the oppressed minority, keep acting like everything is against you and keep denying reality.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 11:26 am
    "again, a black person is shot and the shooter is not arrested though it is clear it was an unjustified shooting."

    clear to your biased thought process maybe, but that`s about it. racism isn`t dead ANYWHERE on this planet and its people like YOU who perpetuate the problem "white people this and white people that" you might want to consider that every race has its share of dbags, for instance, you. (i dont know what race you are and dont care, it wont change the fact that you suck so much)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 27, 2012 at 11:33 am
    1,177 vs 464 in 2009.
    1,324 vs 459 in 2008.

    Whites killed by blacks VS blacks killed by whites.
    Not including Aborigionals, Latinos or "other".

    USA: 72% white, 15% Latino/Native 13% Black

    Total murders: 13,041 murders of all kinds in 2009
    13,780 in 2008.

    There you go! Blacks are apx 12 times more likely to murder whites, based on population %.

    More whites are killed by blacks than blacks by whites, despite whites outnumbering them by 5:1.

    SOURCE I`ve put this up at other threads, it`s the facts.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 11:33 am
    @leesah

    The state that had 40 shot and 10 killed in a day but was never highlighted by the media dosen`t allow people to lawfully posses a gun for prtection???? NOOOO never!!!
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    shaustin Male 18-29
    143 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 11:46 am
    @5Cats but when blacks are doing the shooting they go to jail, when whites do it their actions are "justified"?
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Indeed, McGovern, but hey, if you do recall, we did make national headlines a couple months ago for our single 24 hour period when no murders were reported! First 24 hours without a murder in over a year, us Chicagoans are so proud.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 27, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    "when blacks are doing the shooting they go to jail, when whites do it their actions are "justified""

    @shaustin: these stats are for murders. I`m fairly sure the conviction rate between black & white murderers is pretty close.
    Now, it could be that more whites get the charges "downgraded" idk. That`s a different kettle of fish.

    2009: 1,025 men killed by women (460 were killed by Black women)
    2,600 women killed by men (961 were killed by Black men)

    This site is Amazing!
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 12:16 pm
    Man we got a real problem with law enforcement in this country. When entering the force police may have good intentions, but the reality is they become power hungry pricks who think they have the right to be judge jury and executioner. Now we have a move towards militirazation of our police departments. Pepperspraying and tazing cooperative people is common. Congress just approved domestic drone surveillance. Things are about to get real f`d up and the outrage is almost nonexistent. Corporations profit from prisons and wouldn`t you know, we have more people in jail than Stalin had in gulags. Where`s the outrage? Where`s the national discussion?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    im sure theres something more to this....
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    @5Cats, you you`re arguing `justifiable revenge`, or something?
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    "these stats are for murders. I`m fairly sure the conviction rate between black & white murderers is pretty close."

    tell that to Trayvon`s parents and to these people. not even going to mention the fact that "pretty close" is not the same as "equal"...oh wait...
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
    663 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    Black or white, I think we can all band together and say drat the cops. If you wanted to help people you`d have become a fireman.
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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    @madest
    Words from a wise man
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    @5Cats, you you`re arguing `justifiable revenge`, or something?
    Noooo... @Draculya: I`m saying that when the MSM allows race-baiters like Sharpton and the NBP to tell lies on air, and refuses to offer the truth? That is bad. Very bad.

    @collegebound: Z hasn`t been convicted, it`s not "murder" unless he is. You can whine all you like about it but the stats remain unchanged.

    So, we still wait to see what race the cop is. Isn`t THAT sad?

    (in before the crys of `racist`: YES obviously it is TERRIBLE that person lost their life over a "cell phone gun" I don`t care what colour of skin they have, it`s tragic.)
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    @leesah

    YAY!!! ONE DAY!!!

    If you feel unsafe you could alway stay with me!! :-)
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
    418 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm
    News Article about the Event
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
    418 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Still very little real information available. One reason these things get blown up in the media is that oftentimes the police aren`t allowed to give their side of a story while the investigation is on-going.

    Very difficult to determine what was going on.
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
    418 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    And one for after the girl died.

    abc news article on the shooting
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    5Cats: who tried to make this about race? the fact is that the man was on his cell phone and the cop opened fire, injured the man, and killed the woman.

    im not going to argue with you about Z...i`ve seen enough of your posts about that subject to know better than to try to argue with you about it...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31799 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    @collegebound: You brought up race, eh? And mentioned the Z&M case also.
    Not willing to argue about it either though.

    This story might be about race, according to the Media at least, depending on what skin colour the cop has.

    Personally it shouldn`t matter, but many more think it does. (not saying IABers, just in general).
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm
    5Cats: Touche.
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    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 4:29 pm
    If the public stands up, gets involved and calls out for justice you know their just gonna get molested by a TSA agent. Because that`s what American citizens have let happen to them. This is what it has come to. Cops or Government start and internal investigation. They let it go on for as long as it takes for the majority of the public already involved to be more concerned with the next ipad to come out. nobody gives a fudge anymore. If you don`t believe that then ask yourself: Do you know the first middle and last names of all the families in a five house radius from where you live? Id say 90% wouldn`t.

    Kind of a random rant/ vent i know.....but then again nobody will give a poo in 5 posts.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 5:00 pm
    Holy Crap!!!! Was the black guy wearing a hoody?!!!Did he have skittles in his pocket!!! GET THE PANTHERS DOWN HERE!!!!
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    yea black people arnt taking poo any more, first trevon now this, as bob dylan said : the times they are changing
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    @Salty-I know all 5 first names and 3 of the last names,but no middle names. Does that count?
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    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 7:49 pm
    @robo - Hell yeah it counts! good on ya mate! You are the 1%
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    SaltyVarnish Male 18-29
    678 posts
    March 27, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    Sorry... 10% just re-read post...but 1% is probably closer anyways. How is the weather in everyone`s bubble going anyways?
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    March 28, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    Let me et this straight -- an off duty officer thinks a man has a gun in his hand so he shoots, hits the man in the hand, kills a young woman, and the man who had no gun is being charged with a misdemeanor after being shot for carrying a phone?

    What in the hell is going on?
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    Metalcraze Male 18-29
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    April 4, 2012 at 4:17 am
    lying I am a racist!.

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