Newborn Dies After Reportedly Contracting Herpes

Submitted by: Tacos4Brkfst 5 years ago in
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/03/05/newborn-dies-after-contracting-herpes-from-controversial-circumcision-ritual/?intcmp=obinsite

What the F*CK is going on here? Another reason to not mutilate your child"s penis.
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Female 24
this was at the hospital I was born in! craziness
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Female 2,674
I-IS-BORED, I believe LordJim was making the comparison between routine circumcision (modifying an infants body for a non medical reason without consent) and giving an infant other modifications (i.e. lip piercings, eyebrow piercings, tattoos, etc) which is also modifying the infants body for non medical reasons without consent.
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Male 2,419
@LordJim
that`s not really a parallel, would only be similar if somebody with herpes decided to lick the body mod wound
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Male 12,365
[quote]That`s the stupidest and most inaccurate poo i`ve read all day. LOL. Do you live in a box?[/quote]

Unfortunately for you, that poo is an accurate summary of the situation. Yes, it`s stupid. Very stupid. Spectacularly stupid. It`s also true and extremely well documented. You only need to go back 100-150 years, so there`s plenty of records.
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Male 7,123
How is it not obvious that it is ethically wrong to carry out non-medical surgery on people who have not given informed consent?

If a couple of dedicated body-modders decided to have their infant modified so that it matched their chosen life-style would that be ok? And if the infant died because of the procedure how much understanding would be given to the community which refused to cooperate with the law?

Oh, it`s religious? Sorry, must remember to respect that.
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Male 620
mu·ti·late (mytl-t)
tr.v. mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing, mu·ti·lates
1. To deprive of a limb or an essential part
2. To disfigure by damaging irreparably
3. To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.

The baby died, how is the title inaccurate? No need to get your foreskin in a knot, ryan.
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Male 2,486
Okay, I`ve gotta say, whoever wrote the subtitle for this one should be banned from posting anything else.. and whoever approved should be fired. They are literally two of the least intelligent human beings on the planet.

"HURR DURR I RED 2 LINES OF DIS ARTICLE N I NOW UT IT MEENS IT MEENS CIRCUMSISSION IS BAD LOL"

I guess you forgot to read the part where the rabbi put his mouth on the wound? Gee, that seems like a reasonable cause for herpes. Last time I checked, circumcision wasn`t mutilation NOR does circumcision have a side effect of herpes. How stupid can people be? Really? It`s literally mind boggling to me how little thought can happen in a human`s brain.
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Male 14,332
[quote]never get your tonsils or appendix removed[/quote]

Ummm I also still have those been working fine for me so I`ll stick with em. You cut off potential problems before even having a problem? Nice logic!! Pull your teeth out before they decay!!!
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Male 14,332
[quote]"Looks better cut."[/quote]



See it`s beatiful a la natural!
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Male 340
That`s the stupidest and most inaccurate poo i`ve read all day. LOL. Do you live in a box?

"Maybe that`s a part of why circumcision is as popular as it is in America; religious conservative nation, thinks masturbation is a sin, performs surgery on its children that makes masturbation more difficult."
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Male 2,850
@Gerry1of1

"One advantage not mentioned, is that an uncut weenie doesn`t need lube or spit to masturbate."

Maybe that`s a part of why circumcision is as popular as it is in America; religious conservative nation, thinks masturbation is a sin, performs surgery on its children that makes masturbation more difficult.
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Male 626
Oh my god. Have you read the procedure in the link? That is not a normal circumcision and should be classified as child endangerment/abuse.

And while I think wangs look better circumcised, I`ve heard it feels much better for uncircumcised people.
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Male 1,252
not quite related..but after 34 years of not looking at other mens wangs I went for a physical and found out i was circumsized..go figure lol.
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Female 375
Wow, mutilating babies is bad? Why were we not told about this before?
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Male 25,416
sad
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Male 2,419
"(reduction of sexual pleasure for one)"

I`ve never understood this one. How is being less sensitive and having a longer session to get there a detriment?
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Male 2,419
Ew, I`ve never heard of somebody using their mouth for that, not even touching with their hand. Supposed to use surgical tools...
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Male 2,419
Whenever i have my "virtual gerry time .)" i still have to use some sort of lube otherwise sparks fly...

Having your foreskin removed so that it stays clean, makes sense if you live in a hot climate, with limited acces to water. (round the time the bible was written) but now? imho it`s child abuse as there are no pressing arguments for, but plenty of pressing arguments against. (reduction of sexual pleasure for one) without the child having a say in the matter.

just do a quick google on the origen and risks of circumsion. do you really want to do that to your little man? (pun intended)
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Male 171
Whats the controversy?
Isnt it clear that while mutilating a child, fondling an infant`s sexual organs, and then ritually sucking newborn blood, you should try to use a sterile tube to avoid infections?
After all, he is just following the instructions given to a man who lived thousands of years ago, by a voice in his head.
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Male 38,455

One advantage not mentioned, is that an uncut weenie doesn`t need lube or spit to masturbate.

Just something to think about.
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Male 2,332
"the problem here is not circumsion: it`s the sucking done after by mouth."

Oh I`d say the sucking wouldn`t be needed if they didn`t cut him up in the first place.
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Male 2,737
LMAO @ Freakish Gooey Duck Rooster!!!!
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Male 14,826
They should ban ritual circumcision.
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Male 3,619
omg MrOrange, lol`d cornflakes out of my mouth
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Male 977
Wait... so they suck baby dick??
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Male 2,199
i puked a little...
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Male 132
You think this particular ritual would have garnered more attention from the Catholic church...
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Male 2,419
The society of catholic priests has written an angry letter to the jewish comunity demanding to know how the hell the managed to get away whith this.
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Female 2,674
@highonhuffin - Apparently only your tastes are okay, everyone with differing opinions are wrong and disgusting? Grow up in a society where women don`t shave, and you`d find it attractive for sure.
As for: "never get your tonsils or appendix removed"
Horrible example to try to prove your point; we don`t routinely remove the tonsils or appendixes of infants without their permission. We wait until there`s an actual issue where removing them is necessary. The same should be done for foreskin. Removing the foreskin at birth is actually worse than removing tonsils or appendixes at birth imo because it deprives men of extra pleasure during sex without giving them a choice. How so many men are fine with being deprived of this and go on to do the same to their kids is beyond me.
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Female 2,674
"Looks better cut. "
According to who? Soft, both cut and uncut look different but both are unattractive. Hard, the main different visually is the heads of cut penises are dry/lack moisture, whereas uncut penis heads have natural moisture. Otherwise they look pretty similar hard. The "it looks better" is only true for societies where cutting is common, and it`s not that it looks better, it`s that it`s more familiar.
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Male 180
Forgot to add - never get your tonsils or appendix removed - you were born with those too. And forget about inoculations - if you were meant to be immune to disease you would have been born immune.
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Male 180
For the same reason that only a weirdo wants a woman with a huge hairy bush and hairy legs and pits. Who the drat wants to look at a freakish gooey duck rooster?
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Male 2,440
Pffft. If men were meant to have foreskins, they`d be born with them.

o_o
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Female 4,359
Please someone explain, with a justifiable reason that makes sense and has nothing to do with religion, why in the f uck would you take a perfect, healthy newborn baby and then cut off the end of his penis. Why? it`s supposed to be there, thats why it`s there.
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Male 58
as an ultra orthodox jew, who also happens not live in a box (hey, I`ve beed visiting iab daily for over 8 years!) and happens to have gone through college, univ. etc.:

the problem here is not circumsion: it`s the sucking done after by mouth.
the tradition has been that the mohel, right after cutting and folding back the skin quickly sucks out some of the blood: this is a split second procedure (he right away spits the blood out, and some moheling will rinse their mouth with antiseptic both before and after).

many mohelim ( I don`t know what percentage) have made changes to this procedure, either by using a separate tool or some sort of tube between their mouth and the penis. this changes were implemented over the past 2 decades or so, as they became more aware of the dangers and viruses. (not only stuff that the mohel can pass on, but even more because of stuff they can catch).

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Female 4,086
its fox news, people. please, keep a little perspective.
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Male 620
@leesah
"baby`s fresh penis wound"
Why would anyone want to do that to a newborn ever?

If you`re concerned about uti`s, may i plead with you instead, ensure they are drinking enough fluids, and teach them about personal hygiene? Its really easy to clean, even so, for the sake of a convenience? Shoot, boys getting uti`s at all is a pretty rare thing, and easily dealt with. Its not a very good reason to go out and start chopping up penises.


Risk of infection is a very real thing when getting a circumcision, regardless of where or how its performed.
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Male 14,826
Now that`s just wrong.
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Male 7,378
Yeah this is bad. Really, really bad.
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Male 25
Get your facts straight - Circumcision
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Female 1,566
Cut is easier to keep clean as a younger kid (unless you want to be one of those moms who does "penis checks") and it undeniably prevents infant UTIs. Uncut... is uncut. It`s a choice the parents makes and it should stay that way, a choice you`re free to make. But feel free to carry on with the meaningless forum argument over a purely opinion based topic.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Looks better cut.[/quote]

Because that`s what you`re used to. Exactly the same thing can be (and has been, and is), said about other forms of mutilation that you would find abhorrent.

If it was normal in your culture to tattoo penises bright green, you would very likely consider bright green penises to look better.
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Male 12,365
[quote]its 100% medical and prevents future diseases, this is well known, the fact it was done for religious purposes is purely coincidental.[/quote]

When disagreeing with a post, you first have two choices:

1) Make a relevant line of argument against the post.

2) Don`t bother reading the post, reply with something mostly irrelevant, ignore the most relevant parts and make a false statement.

You chose the latter. You`re only making yourself look bad by doing so.

Unless, of course, you follow the same line of "reasoning" that is behind the custom of genital mutilation in the USA, namely that masturbation causes numerous medical problems and can be cured by genital mutilation. Is that what you believe? If so, your post is at least internally consistent (but still obviously wrong).
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Male 46
@darkmagic14n
According to the WHO, the only asian countries that have a high rate of non-religious circumcision are the Philippines and South Korea, the latter being a prime example of american influence.
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Male 46
Damn, these rabbis are way ahead of catholic priests.
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Male 2,058
Looks better cut.
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Male 1,625
[quote]No more WTF than routinely cutting off parts of babies` genitals either for the same reason (religion) or because it used to be thought to prevent masturbation (the secular reason it`s so common in the USA).[/quote]

only a european, the continent so far behind in modern medicine, would think like that. do you think its religious reasons asians, who are one of the most advanced in medicine, do it? its 100% medical and prevents future diseases, this is well known, the fact it was done for religious purposes is purely coincidental.
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Male 12,365
[quote]baby penis in the mouth?!?! wtf?[/quote]

No more WTF than routinely cutting off parts of babies` genitals either for the same reason (religion) or because it used to be thought to prevent masturbation (the secular reason it`s so common in the USA).
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Male 621
I misread the title as "Newborn Dies After *Repeatedly* Contracting Herpes". I was like, "WTF!?!?"

In any case, that`s pretty F`d up.
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Male 38,455

First of all, what kind of a pervert applies for the job of mohel or "baby penis sucker". There`s your sign right there that something is wrong here. And if he`s coming in to take extra shifts when he doesn`t have to you might want to compare his name to a list of predators in your area.

I`m just sayin`.
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Male 514
Ummmm, WTF and WHY?????
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Male 633
So how`s your religion doing now?
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Male 5,314
baby penis in the mouth?!?! wtf?
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Male 914
Ohh but we have to respect people`s freedom of religion! Can`t let human death stop people from doing what they want.
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Male 2,737
EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Female 1,566
You meant `another reason not to let any grown Jewish men suck the blood from your baby`s fresh penis wound`, right?
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Male 2,424
I will adjust my rage according to the age of the story. Ehem*

Noo! RAAR!
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Male 209
That`s why they`re always saying "Don`t touch the sides!"
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Male 3,431
Sounds like Orc mischief to me.
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Male 675
Its Faux News, not to mention its being posted six months late. Screw it.
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Male 620
Link: Newborn Dies After Reportedly Contracting Herpes [Rate Link] - What the F*CK is going on here? Another reason to not mutilate your child`s penis.
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