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129 Responses to Homophobic Message At Iowa Public School Assembly

  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Link: Homophobic Message At Iowa Public School Assembly - You Can Run But You Cannot Hide Intl. teaches their brand of Judeo-Christian `morality` at U.S. public schools.Site link
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    Mpissy Male 18-29
    22 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 11:19 am
    I might listen to the sons of liberty radio show. if my nano machines let me.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Interesting statistics this guy pulls from his ass. Perhaps this moron should GO to school instead of merely speaking at one.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:29 am
    i know few gays and they are all over 40
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    Mpissy Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:34 am
    The definition of a Hypocrite: No fu*king senese of perspective whatsoever.
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    creatorofall Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:38 am
    All I heard was blah blah blah.
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    turbotong Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:38 am
    when did this site become so liberal?
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Nothing new here in regards to this "morality" message, tbh. Better question is what is the context here. If, in fact, this presentation (would have liked the whole thing, not just exerpts) took place in a public school, the administration, I would think, did their homework and knew in advance what the lectures were all about. Why did they bring them in to speak to their students ?? Did the parents know in advance their kids would be sitting through this ?? Without context, then, I call shenanigans.....
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Chalk up another fine achievement from religion. Way to promote tolerance!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:48 am
    He`s just trying to say being gay is a choice. It isn`t, we all know that.

    He`s just ignorant. Not his fault.
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    aikiman Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:50 am
    I`ll pray for you Iowa
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:57 am
    Sigh. Not the old gays-die-in-their-40s argument again. It`s been debunked so often it`s just sad that people are still using it.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 11:58 am
    That was one of the worst stand up comedy routines I`ve ever heard!!!
  14. Profile photo of CaptKangaroo
    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    Intolerant?- Yes. Homophobic?-no. Having the opinion that homosexuality is wrong, does not make one homophobic.
    Having the opinion that abortion is wrong, does not make one a clinic bombing fanatic.
    I do not agree with this person, but he did not rise to either label.
    It would be amusing however, if fair equal time were given to someone to come in and advocate the opposing views.
    But whaddayawant? It`s Iowa, for crying out loud.
    They`d rather do the goats.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
    798 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    Nothing homophobic in any of that. I think this material should be presented in every high school in America. Too bad for leberals when law and logic conflict with their not so well though out interpretation of reality.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Disgusting.
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    Fidelius Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:10 pm
    Let him rant and rave all he wants. Gays can still get married in Iowa!
  18. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Well, having faced this crap all my life I can tell you he`s not particularly effective. I`ve heard much better speakers. Those kids were laughing as the left the auditorium I`m sure.
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    soundman655 Male 50-59
    1558 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Why do christians think their "club" is the be all/end all? Their pure hatred and desire to rule the world with their jaded view of their handbook is worse than blatent nazis!! And unlike the nazis - they are winning!!
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Well, that was depressing.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:25 pm
    Gays die in their 40`s!? Oh no! I better call my friends. We`re on borrowed time.
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    columbia505 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    heres the video with comments enabled...pass it around
  23. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    In Denmark, the country with the longest history of gay marriage, for 1990-2002, married heterosexual men died at a median age of 74yr., while gays died at an average age of 51.

    In Norway, married heterosexual men died at an average age of 77 and gays at 52 yr. In Denmark, married women died at an average age of 78 yr. compared to 56 yr. for lesbians. In Norway, women married to men died at an average age of 81. v. 56 for lesbians.

    It`s not 40 as this guy states, but it`s still a 20+ yr. discrepancy.
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    hauswyfe Female 30-39
    280 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120310/NEWS/303100043/Band-s-messages-offend-some-Dunkerton-students

    Apparently the superintendent didn`t realize the show would turn out this way. He thought it would be a message about the influence of the media. Not a homophobic rant by a radical christian missionary... Big oops, that was!
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    tsheriff Male 18-29
    256 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    infanticide is way different than abortion
  26. Profile photo of lauriloo
    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm
    Maybe if gay people`s lives weren`t so stressful because of religious zealots who can`t mind their own business, they would live as long as straight people. All of the gay people I know are over 40, except for the one who killed himself. Think on that.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    right e o.. well that was just hype!
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    Here`s the link I believe hauswyfe was trying to give us: Evidently the principal was mislead by this organization
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    Arcval Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    @insane ai:
    @CaptKangaroo
    You don`t seem to understand the meaning of homophobic.
  30. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    tsheriff: It`s stopping the beating heart of a human being. It`s much more than a `mass of cells` after 10-12 weeks.

    The guy is right, if you`re proud of your work, if it supposedly benefits mankind so much, why be afraid of the pictures of it ?

    Perhaps it`s because we all know deep down it`s wrong and immoral, and that we should be ashamed of it.
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    Hellsh Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    Where do people take the time and the effort from, that is needed to remember: who you hate, why you hate them, the corresponding text passage from book soandso and the rectification or dis valuation of possible counter arguments.
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    Thank you for context. Couldn`t really see that this fringe group could get to do their thing in public schools, unless, like in this case, they used some form of trickery. The caption for this feature is misleading, makes it sound like a wide-spread phenomenon, rather than the one-off incident that this really is. I like this site, but wish the Mods showed more honesty/integrity, and less bias, in how they presented content.....
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    "Where do people take the time and the effort from, that is needed to remember: who you hate, why you hate them, the corresponding text passage from book soandso and the rectification or dis valuation of possible counter arguments."

    It`s much easier to try to change other people than to work on your own shortcomings. These people get the artificial feeling of superiority by putting other people down. If they spent all that time and brain power doing actual "good works" imagine how much better the world would be. Love instead of hate.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    "He`s just ignorant. Not his fault."

    Spreading it is though.
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    smaus Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    I hate people who drink from public water fountains while standing on one foot
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    hauswyfe Female 30-39
    280 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    @kitteh(lives: Yeah, that one too. The poor principal was trying to do something good for his kids and this is what happens. Subversion by the religious right...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    Perhaps it`s because we all know deep down it`s wrong and immoral, and that we should be ashamed of it.

    ...or maybe because we value our patients` privacy, and THAT is moral.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    I always find it shocking when someone is so well spoken in absolute ignorance and intolerance.

    drat this motherdrater. Trying to tell everyone what love is and that they`re wrong if they live their lives the way they want to? Ridiculous.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
    1754 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    My girlfriend`s Aunt is lesbian and married. They`re in their later 60s. Figure that out CrackrJack.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    How did nobody speak up against him? How could the teachers just sit there and let him brainwash these kids? Who at the school thought this was the right message to send the students?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    Top video: He did OK until the very end. I`m not sure why recalling the ERRORS of the past helps his point. Yes it was a bad thing to say homosexuality was a form of insanity. Luckily a Canadian doctor fought & won to overturn that, eh?
    Lower Video: Sounds right to me!

    Off to read the (predictable) comments!
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    @CrakrJak
    a fetus doesn`t have brain activity until 24-25 weeks
  43. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    when did this site become so liberal?
    @turbotong It was much MORE liberal before I and a couple of other `right thinking` folks came along, eh? And started speaking up.
    Not the old gays-die-in-their-40s argument again
    True that @almightbob1, it`s just a statistical anomoly caused by AIDS as opposed to a "fact".
    It would be amusing however, if fair equal time were given to someone to come in and advocate the opposing views
    With all respect @KaptainKangaroo: The Left, Planned Parenthood and Gay Rights ALL have unfettered access to the classrooms in USA and Canada. Kids these days are bombarded with pro-left, pro-feminist, pro-multicultural &etc dogma from the textbooks to the school`s allowed activities.
  44. Profile photo of Lucky2u
    Lucky2u Male 18-29
    315 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Whelp time to get a gun and this one out
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    "I and a couple of other `right thinking`"
    "pro-feminist, pro-multicultural &etc dogma"

    Just putting it out there that unless the right wing denounces 5Cats they also support going back to the "good ol` days" of slavery and women being property.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Further Reading
    It`s from the their site which is linked in the posting.

    News Report: Video and Transcript
    Comment #1 is interesting...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Right @I-Is-Bored, because there`s ONLY black & white in this world, never any `middle ground`!

    Of course by opposing abortion I must therefor support slavery! Outstanding liberal logic there dude!
    /sarc

    To be perfectly clear: I don`t neccessarily support this group, I don`t know their message aside from what`s been posted here.
    I DO support their right to speak. Planned Parenthood has that right also, I wouldn`t want that taken away even though I seriously DISagree with them.

    Whenever a "conservative" trys to start a conversation, a "liberal" calls for them to be silent. It happens every single time.

    Furthermore: @I-Is-Bored: Abortions can be done, in Canada and the USA, up to the `due date`. Your point is moot.
    Late Term Abortions
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    If the kids have to sit and listen to this poo, then afterwards they should also have the right to beat the poo out of these people with a baseball bat.
  49. Profile photo of WVUedj
    WVUedj Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It is ok to have civilized discussions about these issues, but as you can see the internet takes away any sort of civility we can have.

    Overall, I disagree with this argument and the means of how this message was spread. Hopefully they allowed students to return to class if they wanted to skip the presentation.

    It is not my place to tell people who oppose my views what will or will not happen to them if they continue living the life that they do. I simply tell them I disagree and go about my day. Very rarely do I speak out about these issues without being asked (this time is an exception).

    That being said, more funny pics please...no more 100mph milkshakes videos either.
    8-)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    @Ripper398 & @Lucky2u
    Ah violence! The left`s answer to everything!
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    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    Man he`s wearing his hat backwards, he must be so cool.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    @5Cats
    Where did you get the combo of slavery and abortion from? The slavery comes from where you clearly stated multiculturalism is liberal brainwashing, you obviously think people of different backgrounds aren`t equal.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Hypocritical non-nice individual. In the first video he complains about Lady Gaga comparing sexuality with race (saying they`re both something we`re born with). Then in the 2nd video he compares a woman who stabs her child over 100 times with someone who has an abortion when the fetus isn`t even sentient. He also subscribes to the nontraditional household = broken family bs. Sorry but a broken family isn`t a single mother or single father doing their best to raise their children on their own. A broken family is a family where the parents are still together "for the kids" but are fighting constantly and cheating on each other and crap. Not to mention all the poo he said about homosexuality. How aren`t there people reacting to what he`s saying?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    The "Gay death curve" is because of ass holes like this guy. They make young gay teens miserable so they suicied which brings the median age of death down.

    Teen suicide because they were gay used to be the #1 teen suicide reason. Now they say it`s depression...but they`re depressed because of those ass holes so it`s still about gay teens.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    @I-Is-Bored: No, different cultures are NOT "all equal" that`s just a fact! The "Moroccan Teen" posting here at IAB is proof of that. Different does not imply better/worse btw: you`re infering that all on your own.

    Your comment over at the "Moroccan Teen" thread tells me you`re blind as a bat, I`m done.
  56. Profile photo of Ripper398
    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    Actually, I`m not a leftist, or a rightist. In fact both parties are idiots the majority of the time. I normally play the Devil`s advocate when religion is involved, but I`m tired of defending non-nice individuals.

    In my opinion, the bible is outdated bullpoo that has no place dictating what the majority of the UNITED STATES is allowed to do and should have no place in the constitution. If you disagree and think the constitution should be controlled by book, written by man, about a mystical being who lived in the sky and his virgin birthed baby... then you can just move your bigot ass to the middle east and live that lifestyle there with others who most likely feel a little more radical about it than you.

    However, if you feel like you can practice your religion without forcing your outdated rules on non-believers, I will continue to defend you.

    I also believe loud mouthed atheists who force their views on people are non-nice individuals as well. Don`t bother
  57. Profile photo of aikiman
    aikiman Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    @CrakrJak: Those figures you quoted come from a paper by the Dr Cameron, the founder of the Family Research Institite: `The American Psychological Association (APA) dropped Cameron from its membership on December 2, 1983 for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists. In 1984, the Nebraska Psychological Association adopted a resolution stating that it "formally disassociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality." In 1986 the American Sociological Association passed a resolution condemning Cameron for "consistent misrepresentation of sociological research". This was based on a report from the ASA`s Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, which summarised Cameron`s inflammatory statements and commented, "It does not take great analytical abilities to suspect from even a cursory review of Cameron`s writi
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    aikiman Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    Cameron`s writings that his claims have almost nothing to do with social science and that social science is used only to cover over another agenda. Very little of his work could find support from even a bad misreading of genuine social science investigation on the subject and some sociologists, such as Alan Bell, have been `appalled` at the abuse of their work." In 1996, the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron`s work on sexuality, stating that he had "consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism".

    Cameron`s credibility was also questioned outside of academia. In his written opinion in Baker v. Wade (1985), Judge Buchmeyer of the U.S. District Court of Dallas referred to "Cameron`s sworn statement that `homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals,`" and
  59. Profile photo of aikiman
    aikiman Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    So he`s a reliable source..
  60. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    vv Fair enough @Ripper, but until the majority (2/3 is required in both houses, iirc) changes it, the US Constitution is still law, regardless of who or what influenced it`s writing.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    1. Morocco is a country and its laws are part of a society, not a cultural background.

    2.
    "No, different cultures are NOT "all equal" that`s just a fact!"
    "Different does not imply better/worse btw: you`re infering that all on your own."
    Not only did I not infer that at all, but how do you live with so much cognitive dissonance?
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    lol you make it seem like these people had to be there.. looks like a small group a=of people that most likely signed up to be there.... nothing to see here.. oh look page long comment post.. ill pass
  63. Profile photo of GasMaskKid
    GasMaskKid Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    this is religion`s fault
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    This douche makes me utterly sick. F*ck you with a broken bottle.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    Piss Nipple!!!!!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Funny, I didn`t know that saying you aren`t biased makes you not biased.
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    coffeekoneko Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    Just some good old-fashioned hate speech in our public schools.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    They used to do this ALL the time at my middle school. They would bring preachers in the basically preach to the entire school during assemblies, but they would just take out direct references to god/the bible. My health teacher honestly told me that AIDS came to America through gay people (It didn`t btw, it was a flight attendant.) But I live in Alabama, so it`s not that crazy for this kind of thing to be acceptable.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    March 14, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    This guy is an idiot. He says the average lifespan of a gay person is 42 or something, (That might be true but the worldwide is 63, and thats for people that don`t get the death penalty for being themselves. And yes, people used to think homosexuality was a mental disorder, but they also used to think dancing could make it rain or burning bushes could talk.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    and robosnitz slides in a WIN !
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm
    I-IS-BORED: Actually, no one has tried to get EEG readings from younger fetuses. At 10-12 weeks a fetus is about 2 inches long, even if they could get electrodes that small, it`s likely they wouldn`t be able to isolate brain readings from the other heartbeat and other electrical activity going on.

    Just because that`s the earliest they`ve successfully detected an EEG from a fetus does not mean a 10-12 week fetus doesn`t have brain activity.

    aikiman: By the time Cameron was ridiculed, gays had infiltrated the APA and taken homosexuality out of the DSM. The research I posted was peer reviewed and published in 2007.

    Nice cut `n paste but it`s irrelevant, the data is correct no matter how much he`s disliked by the gays in the APA.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    @TheShng2: AIDS did, in fact, seem to origionate in North America through a single Canadian flight attendant who was gay. Or more accurately omni-sexual since (apparently) he`d bang anything & anyone. But that counts as "gay" in the loosest sense of the word.

    Early predictions said AIDS would effect homo- and hetero- communities equally, but that simply isn`t true. Certian sexual and lifestyle practices increase one`s chance of getting hiv/aids. Just sayin.
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    snuffy2009 Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    I was so hoping someone would get up and put this guy in his place, but alas, no such encounter took place...
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    xoterra Female 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    It`s people like this that give Christians a bad name. It`s one thing to teach God`s word. It`s another to tell people how to live their lives.

    You can`t just go out there and be like "If you`re gay, you`re wrong." Even if God came down from Heaven and told the world that it`s considered a sin (which I don`t believe it is at all), not everyone has to believe in God.

    It`s called free will. We have it.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 14, 2012 at 7:13 pm
    Kids these days are bombarded with... pro-feminist, pro-multicultural &etc dogma from the textbooks to the school`s allowed activities.
    Cats, that`s deeply disturbing to me. Equal rights for women and ethnic minorities in the western world is a threat to our civilization? Cause that`s the way it reads, and dude, I gotta tell ya... Well, I`ll stop short of invoking Godwin`s Law.
  76. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    davymid: Feminists already have equal rights for women, multi-culturalists already have civil rights and affirmative action. That should`ve been enough to render their missions accomplished. Instead these groups have taken large steps to the radical left in order to remain `relevant` and continue to get funding.

    These radical left groups create imaginary `issues` as a way of continuing to parade minorities as downtrodden victims.

    Those organizations will never disappear because they value self-preservation above all.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 14, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    Fair question @davymid, I`ll try to answer:
    Feminism =/= women`s rights. The two aren`t even related anymore. What rights should women have that should NOT apply to men? Abortion? HA! Why should a male pay for 18 years if he has no say in the birthing of that kid?

    Multiculturalism? See the Moroccan Teen thread. As I said, saying cultures are different isn`t the same as saying one is better than the other. That is a subjective opinion and very difficult to `measure`. Most of what`s taught in schools is "this culture is 100% as good as ours!" Which is crapola. Every culture has strengths AND weaknesses. I strongly think "ours" is better than (lets say) Uganda`s. Where raping a virgin girl is a way to cure aids... polyamory is normal, witchcraft is still believed by the vast majority &etc
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Plus: Winnipeg is the North American Capital for Multiculturalism!
    Wiki: Folklorama Wiki says in the whole world! Yay us!
    But it happened in spite of the government, because people were proud of their heritage! NOT the other way around.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
    192 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 8:15 pm
    I agree with this guy to a point. I still ask this question .... If a woman is walking into an abortion clinic, someone shoots her, and she loses the baby, Why is that person charged with murder but if she gets on that table and the Dr kills the baby its not murder? Will someone explain to me how it is a fetus and a human being at the same time???
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    @mandingo: It`s a fact that in Canada you`d only be charged with shooting the woman, nothing for the `fetus`. Been to the Supreme Court and everything.
    idk about the USA, I`d guess it`s just the same.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    March 14, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    this is why america is turning into poo, not gays but the hate of others
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    ExtraCredit Male 50-59
    451 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 8:57 pm
    How did a hateful creep like this get on stage?
  83. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    5Cats: Nope, shooting a fetus is murder, aborting one isn`t. Abortion doctors have been charged with murder after killing fetuses that came out of the woman alive. The legal line is drawn with the extraction of the baby`s head, right now. Thus the issue of people wanting partial-birth abortions made illegal.

    Quite a few babies have actually survived abortions and are alive today. Needless to say these survivors pose quite a quandary for politicians that are confronted by them.
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    cola3 Male 18-29
    55 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 9:10 pm
    the declaration of independence is not the constitution...i truly feel sorry for people like this guy.
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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
    847 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 9:15 pm
    i promise you, its not homosexuality and premarital sex that is ruining america. It is the hatred and prejudice we have for each other that is ripping this country apart at the seams.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    I stand corrected @Crakrjak! There were seveal `test cases` in Canada and the courts backed the "it`s not human" every time.

    Also a woman who huffed glue and thus harmed the fetus (her 4th? 5th child?) was ruled to have the right to huff, the fetus had none. (yes the previous children were all massively brain-damaged).
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    lawndartsftw Male 40-49
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    March 14, 2012 at 9:51 pm
    I find it baffling that people say hatred and prejudice is the problem, yet many on here think nothing of expressing prejudice and hatred for theists, especially Christians. If you cant see that the people in the above video are a fringe minority, in no way representative of the vast majority of Christians, well, then, wtf ?
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
    2441 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:26 pm
    I`d love to yank the headmic off him and beat some sense into him.
  89. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14625 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:44 pm
    "
    I find it baffling that people say hatred and prejudice is the problem, yet many on here think nothing of expressing prejudice and hatred for theists, especially Christians. If you cant see that the people in the above video are a fringe minority, in no way representative of the vast majority of Christians, well, then, wtf ?"

    I am not improperly prejudiced against Christians. For example, it`s possible to be black and also smart, well educated, open minded and ethical, but it is fundamentally illogical to say the same about people who believe in a magic man in the sky that created the world 6,000 years ago, his supposedly immortal son and invisible third self. That`s stupid.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14625 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    What`s worse is not only do you not see that, but you refuse to open your mind to properly consider alternatives. Why? Because people in the bronze and early iron age said that the magic man in the sky that spoke to them in their dreams told them that it was illegal to question the chain of circular logic and we should all keep chanting "it`s true, because we all say it`s true because god told us so" in case somebody sobers up.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14625 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:46 pm
    Yet worse is you use these foolish notions and backwards logic to pee on everyone else`s party.
  92. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14625 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:49 pm
    "How did a hateful creep like this get on stage?"

    A hateful coward in the school administration or school board who did not dare voice his own hateful views invited a hateful creep to speak instead.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    Not only are these ideas appalling, and false, but it`s even worse these events are being held in a PUBLIC school. What the F is going on?? Where`s the ACLU??
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 10:53 pm
    "I am not improperly prejudiced against Christians. For example, it`s possible to be black and also smart, well educated, open minded and ethical, but it is fundamentally illogical to say the same about people who believe in a magic man in the sky that created the world 6,000 years ago, his supposedly immortal son and invisible third self. That`s stupid."

    So Isaac Newton wasn`t smart?
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
    1793 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    how the hell did this happen.... i live in iowa... the more enlightened area around the capital.... damn it...
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
    2424 posts
    March 14, 2012 at 11:34 pm
    Ehhh this guys a bit scary.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
    4348 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 12:24 am
    wtf? how did this happen? did they have a lynching after this and the kill some jews? incredible.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 12:50 am
    This guy is painfully ignorant.
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    aikiman Male 40-49
    255 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 1:16 am
    @Crakr: `the data is correct no matter how much he`s disliked by the gays in the APA`
    Show me your source and I might believe it.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3447 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 1:35 am
    Metallica did it!
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    mrsdoctorwho Female 18-29
    14 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 2:14 am
    I can`t even. This guy is so ignorant.
  102. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 3:50 am
    aikiman: The sources were the Denmark and Norwegian governments.

    Can you speak or read Dutch or Norwegian ? I can`t, however neither government has challenged the English interpretation or data.
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    aikiman Male 40-49
    255 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 6:13 am
    @CrakrJak:
    The data is just that, data, open to interprestation. It`s Dr Cameron`s methodology that is fundamentaly flawed and has been challenged. Most notibly Morten Frisch, MD, PhD, DSc(Med) a Senior Epidemiologist in Copenhagen.
    Let me cut & paste some quotes on Dr Cameron`s paper:
    `The authors should know..that this report has little to do with science.`
    `The methodological flaws are of such a grave nature that no decent peer-reviewed scientific journal should let it pass for publication.`
    `The groups studied comprised homosexuals who had entered registered partnerships...whose relatives considered homosexuality to be such an integrated part of their deceased loved ones` personalities that they felt it natural to mention in the publicly available obituary. Since, as noted, age is a strong determinant of openness about homosexuality, the study groups of deceased homosexuals in Cameron and Cameron’s report were severely skewed towards younger people.`
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    aikiman Male 40-49
    255 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 6:15 am
    Oh, I almost forgot...og med hjælp fra Google, kan jeg læse lidt dansk og norsk
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36679 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 6:46 am

    Going with statistics...

    98% of pedaphiles are heterosexual, so only gay people should be allowed to teach in schools.
  106. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14625 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 7:05 am
    "So Isaac Newton wasn`t smart?"

    Newton was one of the world`s most notable anti-trinitarians. He firmly believed that neither Christ was not a god.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 7:21 am
    And the abortion pong ball bounces back-and-forth on IAB...
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 8:24 am
    Waiting to hear the homophobia. Is it in the top video or the bottom one? Any particular time? Haven`t heard it yet. Also haven`t heard anything particularly outrageous or incorrect yet, but I`ve still got about 30 seconds left to go on the second video so maybe it`s coming up...
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 8:37 am
    @avatarjohn: homophobia is top video, "baby killing" is bottom video.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 9:19 am
    Gerry: The problem with that supposed `statistic` is that most pedophiles are men preying on young boys, that`s NOT heterosexual behavior. Pedos routinely lie about their supposed sexual orientation and/or deceive themselves into thinking they aren`t gay just because they aren`t attracted to adults.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 9:25 am
    aikiman: Please enlighten us as to just how one is supposed to determine sexuality after someone dies if the relatives don`t reveal it in the obituary.

    Is there some mysterious posthumous test for being gay that we don`t know about ? Just saying "It`s skewed", doesn`t make it fact, that`s opinion.

    Seriously, The numbers are real, they were peer reviewed and published. If you or anyone else could`ve proved otherwise they`d have done so by now.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 10:50 am
    @Crakrjak: The study you`re quoting was flawed in its methodolgy. The time period for the data collected was during the height of the HIV/AIDS epidemic. A more recent 2009 study debunked the study you cite. Although it does say that mortality is somewhat lower for homosexuals, the 20+ years from your 2007 study is unsubstantiated. Link.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Gerry`s right and the FBI will bear him (and I) out on this- most pedos attest to being heterosexual. Their preferred victims are kids-and this is the important part- because they say kids (of either gender) are small, hairless, *and remind them of female bodies*. What would a gay man possibly want with a female body?

    Secondary sex characteristics like hair, muscles, ect. present in adult men don`t attract them, whereas those same characteristics *do* attract gay men and straight women. In short, pedos victimize kids becuase they`re kids, gender has nothing to do with it.

    (Sincere apologies for squicking anyone out here)
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Also, I remember this skinny coward from the news, this is the same maladjusted freak who preaches alongside fellow nutball Lou Engle who advocates for violent action against abortion providers and those seeking abortions. What a gigantic waste of flesh and oxygen.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    *I meant mortality is somewhat higher, not lower.
  116. Profile photo of aikiman
    aikiman Male 40-49
    255 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    @CrakrJak: `Please enlighten us as to just how one is supposed to determine sexuality after someone dies if the relatives don`t reveal it in the obituary.` So you agree that the data is incomplete, yet you argue that the conclusion extrapolated from them must be true? That`s weird logic.
    I agree, the numbers are real, it`s the methodology that is flawed.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    Is CJ pretending to be an expert in something again? I just read this on reddit. Applies to stupid smart people like this.

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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    As per usual, @madest brings nothing useful to the conversation.
    Sad really.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm
    5cats, your mother drop you on your head as a baby too many times or are you just colicky today?
  120. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    @QueenZira, she did drop me a couple of times, plus other falls as a child. My neck is broken and there`s dents & bumps in my skull (not joking! I had an MRI that showed it).

    Plus I am grumpy that @madest comes along, SPEWS hatred and insults EVERY single time someone disagrees with him. Or even worse: proves proves him wrong!

    I just think it`s shameful of him.
  121. Profile photo of LillianDulci
    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    "The problem with that supposed `statistic` is that most pedophiles are men preying on young boys, that`s NOT heterosexual behavior"
    That`s NOT homosexual behavior, either. You claim you`re straight. Are you sexually attracted to 5 year old girls? I highly doubt that. Pedophiles don`t care about the gender. One of the reasons why male pedophiles tend to abuse male children is because male adults are much more likely to be left alone with boys rather than girls. For example, boy scout leaders, typically all the children are male, and the leader is typically male. If he`s a pedophile, he`d have tons of little boys around him all the time that he`s responsible for, but very few if any girls. Thus he victimizes boys, even if he`d do the same to girls if they were just as available for him.
  122. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    Morons teaching morons.
  123. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32823 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    I`ve heard that arguement before @LillianDulci, but it seems self-serving.
    If men have sex with men, they`re gay!
    If men have sex with boys, they`re NOT gay!
    I`d agree, pedophiles should be in their own catagory of um, behaviour. BUT the way things are: same sex = same sex.
  124. Profile photo of LillianDulci
    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    5Cats, pedophiles don`t care about gender though. They`re sexually attracted to children. Physically, there`s very little that differentiates a prepubescent girl from a prepubescent boy, and for pedophiles it`s the fact that they`re children not the fact that they`re a certain gender. Adult men are left in charge of boys way more often than they`re left in charge of girls, thus they end up molesting boys but that doesn`t make them gay. It doesn`t make them straight if they were molesting girls, either. They just usually have easier access to boys.
  125. Profile photo of tatripp
    tatripp Male 18-29
    1196 posts
    March 15, 2012 at 7:06 pm
    yeah this video is ridiculous. I see tv shows about these people like this and I didn`t believe it was real.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2106 posts
    March 16, 2012 at 9:25 am
    I have seen Christian/idiots before. Now,Kill them with Fire before they get away. Why don`t THESE morons ever get shot in School?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    March 16, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    @CrakrJak

    "The problem with that supposed `statistic` is that most pedophiles are men preying on young boys"

    When a 50 year old man molests a 10 year old girl, nobody is saying "Well it`s obvious...he was straight, that was the cause."

    But when the victim is a boy, suddenly it happened because the abuser was gay. TOTALLY makes sense, ya bloated moron.
  128. Profile photo of junkaroo
    junkaroo Male 30-39
    234 posts
    March 16, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    Cut to: this guy blowing every decently hung young man in that town behind the school parking lot that night. It`s so predictable by now.
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    Big_Gay_Nob Male 50-59
    678 posts
    March 19, 2012 at 6:23 am
    Jesus loves everyone.. even this jerk

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