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47 Responses to Glenn Beck`s `The Blaze` Smears Trayvon Martin TYT

  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    March 24, 2012 at 8:31 am
    Link: Glenn Beck`s `The Blaze` Smears Trayvon Martin TYT - Conservatives defend the shooter on Glen Beck`s site `The Blaze`. Story in credits link below.
  2. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 8:58 am
    TYT is a smear show of it`s own that has consistently spun and shilled for the liberal view for years now.

    Now they are commenting on comments on a blog ? That`s 3 steps removed from anything even close to the facts.

    Liberals regurgitating pablum they`ve vomited and re-eaten before.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:01 am
    First off, I`ve listened to the tape several times, and I`m still not convinced he said "coons"
    Secondly, even the Conservative Republicans that co-sponsereed the SYG law have stated that once Zimmerman got out of his car, he was not protected by it. (in fact, as i`ve pointed out previously, if Trayvon did jump Zimmerman, as some have alleged, then it would be Trayvon that would be the one protected under the law, because he was being pursued)
    Lastly, let`s not also forget that Conservatives are now using his "hoodie" as a justification for this killing.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:08 am
    How can the right defend poo like this? Why do they never feel the need to concede defeat?
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:11 am
    So, CrakrJak, your point isn`t that the right DO continue to defend this kids murder, it`s to attempt to throw mud at liberals. Again.

    Jeez dude...
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    DromEd Male 40-49
    1930 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 9:18 am
    Just who said the killing was justified because he was wearing a hoodie? He was wearing a hoodie so his shooting was justified. Just who exactly said that? Nobody, that`s who. I heard Geraldo Rivera say that maybe it`s not too smart to walk around looking all "gangsta" but I didn`t hear him say that the shooting was justified. Rivera isn`t even a conservative.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:24 am
    Buiadh: There is no proof that Martin was `murdered`, if there was Zimmerman would be behind bars right now. Secondly, it`s the liberals that have created this sh|t storm, for their own benefit.

    If Trayvon had been white or Zimmerman black, do you honestly believe this would`ve gone beyond local news ? Black kids die everyday in America, they get shot, stabbed, beaten and worse. Over 93% of crimes against blacks are committed by other blacks and it gets little to no coverage in the news.

    Zimmerman isn`t even white, yet the news continuously lies and says he`s white. Any news outlet that can`t even bother to get that fact straight, certainly won`t bother to get the other ones straight either.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32825 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 9:24 am
    TYT are absolutely without morality or reason. A comment by a poster on a website = "Glenn Beck Says"??? ffs that`s just stupid.
    Nothing said by these bigots makes a lick of sense.
    The woman says "are you a moron" refering to the writer of the comment. OH yeah! UNBIASED reportage for sher!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:28 am
    How can the right defend poo like this?
    @Buiadh: I`m defending things like "Innocent until proven guilty" and "no lynch mobs" and "equal rights under the law" and "all persons are equal".
    In other words, this has become a "race" issue because the liberals have NO FACTS to support them.
    That might change when the Grand Jury opens, but until then all they have is inuendo and their own bigotry.
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 9:32 am
    You are all living in a lala world if you think this wasn`t murder. No proof? How about a dead kid and no reason for him to be dead. I hate stupid f**king people and there are a couple of heartless ones on this bored. It`s not about liberals. It`s about right or wrong. The right made it political...not the left.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:36 am
    The right made it political...not the left.
    Oh yeah, noted right wingers like Al Sharpton, Farrakan and Jesse "it`s not MY baby" Jackson made this political and race-based.
    An "I" live in la-la land?
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    bophus Male 30-39
    474 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 9:42 am
    crakrjak....continuing to blame the "liberal media" for everything shows you know little about anything and are part of the problem. If ever station you dont watch it "liberal bias media", wouldnt the one you do watch be "conservative bias media".

    Also, zimmerman is white hispanic, martin and charlie sheen.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:43 am
    @bophus: What is President Obama, Black or White?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 10:01 am
    My question is this: is it *ever* justified to shoot and kill an unarmed person? I don`t ask that question to be a smart ass. I mean, it seems to me that it`s kinda difficult to feel so threatened by an unarmed person that using deadly force is a reasonable response. So, to me, the (911 call proven) fact that a man armed with a gun approached an unarmed man (i.e. no gun, knife or weapon of any kind), pursued and shot him (says so on the tape), for whatever reason, is a bit of a problem.

    I don`t know all of the facts, I`ll admit it. I don`t know if anyone does. But I do know that there`s a problem here. I`m not saying it`s murder--like I say, I don`t know what went down--but I am saying that it seems to me that this is *not* a case of justifiable homicide via self defense. The shooter told the 911 operator he was pursuing the victim. And yes, there *was* a victim here, regardless of your side of the political fence. :-(
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 10:22 am
    I`m glad to live in a place where even the police don`t have need of guns (in Scotland, only a small number of specially-trained and selected officers have them for dealing with a very small number of exceptional incidents). It seems to work just fine for us, and most people feel able to approach the police for help here, rather than it being a `them and us` thing for the average citizen, whatever their colour. I don`t know why some Americans feel safer knowing that guns are easily available to anyone, usually legally, including out of control vigilantes like this bozo.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 10:28 am
    My question is this: is it *ever* justified to shoot and kill an unarmed person?

    your mom, sister, wife, GF or whatever is being approached by a very large man who is saying he is going to rape her. she can either reach for her cellphone or pistol. would you really want her to wait for the police?
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Skypirate : "your mom, sister, wife, GF or whatever is being approached by a very large man who is saying he is going to rape her. she can either reach for her cellphone or pistol. would you really want her to wait for the police? "

    I`d rather any woman in that situation wouldn`t also have to additionally worry about the gun the very large man may also be packing. I’d advise that she scream and shout “fire” at the top of her voice to raise the attention of passers by (shouting “rape” or “help” has the opposite effect, btw – it makes bystanders not want to get involved), and watch the idiot run off.
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    FoSchizle Male 18-29
    330 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 10:49 am
    ONE person writes an article, and suddenly ALL conservatives are defending Zimmerman and smearing Martin? GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK. If a conservative tried that kind of argument, the libs would be all up in arms "Oh, that`s a horrible fallacy of logic. That makes no sense! Blah blah blah blah blah."

    TYT is a crappy source of any informations anyway.
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    FoSchizle Male 18-29
    330 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 10:51 am
    MacGuffin:

    If the dude is packing a gun too, then at least they are equals. If she didn`t have a gun, it doesn`t matter if the other guy does, does it? She`s going to lose. The gun is at the very least an equalizer.
  20. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 11:02 am
    @FoSchizle: No, I don`t think so. If they both had guns, it`d merely be a toss up of who shot first and straightest. Since he`d have the clear initiative by having instigating the situation (and would therefore have been able to prepare his approach in advance), my guess is he`d have the clear advantage in that scenario.

    I`d much rather take my chances using my physical strength, common sense, my lungs and the good intentions of passers by to defend me, rather than relying on a gun that would probably be in my handbag whilst my attacker already had his in his hands.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3890 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 11:07 am
    "If every station you don`t watch is "liberal bias media", wouldn`t the one you do watch be "conservative bias media"."

    The only way Fox can continue to get away with sensationalism is making their followers believe there is a liberal media. They do this by stating the "liberal media" claim ad nauseam throughout their news day until the thought becomes the thought of their viewers. It is simple brainwashing. Once the idea of a liberal media is firmly planted they can say anything with the assumption that only they are reporting the truth. They have ruined news forever. MSNBC soon followed their format. And now CNN, the last cable news channel that actually followed the standards of journalism, is starting to also use sensationalism. Nothing divides the nation more than cable news. I hate cable news and I especially hate hearing people repeat the lies that cable news has planted in their heads. It make me sad for my country.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Beck is a media attention whore. he is doing this to get attention.

    also, I am 6`3 245lbs and spend about 5 days a week lifting weights (so you get an idea I`m a big guy)

    not many 140lb guys would even think about attacking a guy my size.

    trayvon weighed 140
    Zimmerman is 240-250lbs

    I highly doubt that Trayvon decided "hey let me mess with this guy that is MUCH bigger than me and seems pissed off at me".

    rriiiggghhtttt that happened.

    Zimmerman followed, shot and killed a teenager for being black and being in his neighborhood. end of story.


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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 11:28 am
    @MacGuffin back the truck up...i was pointing out a scenario which killing an unarmed person would be acceptable. not what do if you are in a situation.

    BTW its brackets with the word quote in it. text. brackets with a forward slash then the word quote again.
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
    2602 posts
    March 24, 2012 at 11:30 am
    CrakrJak: "Black kids die everyday in America, they get shot, stabbed, beaten and worse...it gets little to no coverage in the news."

    Similar observations were made about Rosa Parks and the Montgomery Bus Boycott. It was pointed out after the event that other earlier victims of the same discrimination that Rosa Parks faced were `less worthy`. Claudette Colvin, for example, was arrested nine months before Parks for failing to give up her seat on a Montgomery bus to a white person. However, since Colvin was a teenager who was pregnant by a married man, she was deemed to be less newsworthy, despite facing the exact same sickening discrimination as the more irreprehensible Parks.

    When you talk about `less worthy` black kids getting shot every day, don`t imagine for one second that makes this vile child murder by a vigilante wannabe cop a
  25. Profile photo of MacGuffin
    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 11:31 am
    ...by a vigilante wannabe cop any less palatable.


    PS: I wish IAB would stop chopping my posts off at the end whenever I include a link!
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 11:33 am
    BTW its brackets with the word quote in it. text. brackets with a forward slash then the word quote again.

    Thanks! :)

    Edit: Feck! What am I doing wrong?
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 11:52 am
    Edit: Feck! What am I doing wrong?

    no caps
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    MacGuffin Female 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 11:57 am
    no caps

    Trying again...

    Edit: Thanks very much. Anyway, sorry for dragging the thread off-topic.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    @MacGuffin no problem. and take this off topic all you want, theres already a dozen or so links relating to this story
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    @MacGuffin: lower case? without the spaces too

    So you agree, the MSM is hyping this for their own, race-drive agenda, eh?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    There are a couple people on here who right out of the gate were positive Zimmerman was innocent. And no matter what new evidence comes out will never change their minds. Life isn`t just about talking it is about listening and learning. The same could actually be said about the people that right out of the gate assumed Zimmerman was guilty and have stopped listening. How do you expect to learn and grow when you only seek opinions that match your own? Let go of the opinion media. Form your own opinions. You will be so much happier and that much stronger.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    It`s funny how they claim that Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, but don`t extend that to Martin, considering he was the one being chased and confronted by a big angry dude twice his size. Bottom line he killed that kid, and if it wasn`t outright murder then it was at the very least criminally negligent homicide. Also this guy is about as white as President Obama. Stop making this a case of white on black race crime because it isn`t and doing so clouds the real issues and takes attention away from other cases like those two rednecks who ran over that black guy in Mississippi. And that`s all I have to say about that.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    well that was interesting
  34. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    markust: The only `new evidence` have been been fabrications, rumors and suspicions dug up to demonize Zimmerman.

    `The evidence` has already been reviewed by the police and that resulted in Zimmerman being let go. Now the media wants Zimmerman arrested on the crap they`ve creatively invented since March 1st, 3 days after the incident.

    What happens when the Grand Jury doesn`t find enough evidence to charge Zimmerman ?

    How many times is he going to be vilified and prosecuted in the news before they admit they are wrong ?

    Most of you aren`t old enough to remember Bernie Goetz and all the bullsh|t said about him, I do. So far the media has followed the same formula of race-baiting, demonizing, rumor mongering, distortion and exaggeration that they did back then.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    VV Well said @Markust!
    I for one have REPEATEDLY said: according to the evidence, as far as we know, this is what I think.
    Those supporting Martin make no such caveats, they KNOW it was race-based, they KNOW Zimmerman attacked, they KNOW it was murder, not defense.
    I get tired of it, but that`s normal for the `liberals` eh?

    and if it wasn`t outright murder then it was at the very least criminally negligent homicide
    That may well be true @xiquiripat. If the "castle defense" isn`t allowed, this could rightly be charged against him.
    Also this guy is about as white as President Obama.
    At last! Someone notices this obvious MSM bias!
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    @Crakrjack

    That`s a determination to be made by the prosecutor. Nobody seems to think that the Police have been forthcoming in the investigation, or at best,have given it a cursory analysis. The public has a right to demand a more in-depth investigation, which I`m sure is going on in the background, and I`m sure the prosecutor`s office is involved asking specific questions to ensure they have enough evidence to prosecute. Also, in America, Grand Jury`s are involved only in federal cases, not in state criminal cases. The determination of whether or not there is enough evidence to prosecute, based on the investigation by the police, is the DA`s office. So IF he is arrested, the prosecutor will have already found sufficient evidence to bring it to trial.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    I was talking about both sides 5Cats. Why do you have to be so partisan?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:07 pm
    @markust: I know you`re not, I was just happy to read what you`d written.

    Why am I partisan? Because sometimes there really is "right and wrong" in the world, eh?

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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    If you were happy with what I wrote then I was taking about both sides.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    "Why am I partisan? Because sometimes there really is "right and wrong" in the world"

    Being right or wrong is not political or ideological leaning. Using politics to divide, is to me, very wrong. I`ve been guilty of it but I try to be good. I recognize when I am doing it and try to be a better person. I would like an honest answer to why do you have to be so partisan?
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    Jomiue76

    Why are you lying? Travyon weighed 160lb, and was fit and strong. Zimmerman being fat does not suggest that a young man, 6`2" and 160 lb could not attack him. All the available evidence is that Travyon did attack Zimmerman, and was winning.

    When I was under 160 lb (I am 6`2") I was in the Royal Navy, and I was pretty fit and strong. Moreover some of the SAS troopers and SBS Marines I knew were lighter than I was.

    SmagBoy1

    "My question is this: is it *ever* justified to shoot and kill an unarmed person?"

    Yes. You have led a very sheltered life if you haven`t met anyone who could do serious harm to you or others without being armed, let alone imagine such an occasion. It is not actually very difficult. So that is a ridiculous question.

    The evidence suggests that this was entirely justified.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    After 46 times, the cops did nothing so it was up to Zimmerman to fight the criminal underworld of that gated community. These people reporting are some major spin doctors,huh?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    @markust: In my observation, which is entirely subjective (obviously, but I`ll still make that perfectly clear) ONE side is more often "right" than the other.
    Not perfect, lolz! That`d be nice but it just isn`t so. However the other side is not only wrong a LOT, but often counter-productive! Causing more harm to those they try to help than doing nothing would have.

    Take nuclear power in the USA for example.
    In the 70`s hippies were out there protesting against building new power stations. Jimmie Carter warned them "If we don`t build more nuclear power, we`ll go to war in the Middle East over oil". He was right!
    Guess what? The offsring of those hippies are now protesting the very war(s) their Grandparents actions caused!

    I dislike Carter, but he did at least 2 things right, nuclear power & the Love Canal...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    It is this idea of sides that gets countries into so much trouble. What it does is makes it difficult to come to the best solution. An all Conservative country would quickly turn into Egypt and an all Liberal country would turn into Amsterdam. Everyone is conservative in some areas and liberal in others. I just wish people would listen to each other more. Think of all the problems that could be solved.
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    March 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm
    i saw an article in the paper about 2 british tourists who accidentally walked into a black neighbourhood and were murdered. guardian.co.uk/world/ video/2012/mar/ 23/florida-britons-murder-trial-video
    was this racist? were they targeted because of their colour? did this even make the news in the US?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 24, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    5Cats: I`d add one more thing Jimmy did that was right, Habitat for Humanity. But overall he was a SCOAMF as a president and a total dick to Israel.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    March 24, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    Of course, if you want to know what Glenn Beck said, make sure you get it straight from an unbiased source, i.e., from a radical left-wing website like youngturks.com that hates Glenn Beck like Satan hates holy water. There`s no way I-A-B is going to allow you to hear Beck in context his own words. That would only confuse you. These guys in the video know better than even Beck himself what he REALLY meant, and you should trust them to tell you.

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