Full 911 Call From Zimmerman (Neighborhood Watch)

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in Misc

Zimmerman states twice that Martin ran from him. It is also being said that he whispered "f*ckin coons" at 2:21.
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Male 24
Murder. Plain and Simple.
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Male 17,511
Finally, The Sanford PD has released the redacted partial police report of the incident, Here
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Male 17,511
Lillian: You`re talking about a woman who the police tried to talk with three times, she wrote a note which her friend gave to police, that corroborated Zimmerman`s story. Now she`s changing her story for the TV cameras, her name is Mary.

When you tell the police one story and then give reporters a different one, you`re whole account of the events, then and now, are suspect.
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Male 718
dratin Coons... LOL seriously though it WAS the black guys fault for getting shot. he shouldn`t have been trying to steal poo. now this poor man is going to have to go to jail for HIM wanting to steal poo.
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Male 5,811
[quote]You are right Crakr,

I think what he said was "f`kn spoon".

He must have stepped on a spoon as he was getting out of the car.[/quote]
No, no, Otto. He said "Macaroons." He must have dropped them when he got out of the car.
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Female 2,674
CJ, the witnesses said it was Trayvon who yelled for help, and the police CORRECTED them and said no it was Zimmerman so the police report saying Zimmerman yelled for help isn`t exactly reliable.
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Male 2,669
Sounds like this Zimmerman character had been itching to whip out his piece and shoot someone -- anyone -- for months.

Pretty obvious the poor kid really was just walking home, in his own neighborhood, unarmed and minding his own business, when this nutjob assaulted and killed him. Very sad.
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Male 17,511
grindinblade: How can you be sure it was Trayvon that yelled for help and not Zimmerman ?, Especially when the police report and witness accounts, right after the incident, say Zimmerman yelled for help. It doesn`t change the fact that Zimmerman was attacked and injured by Martin.

No gun was witnessed until after the shot was heard, Zimmerman didn`t just pull his gun out and chase Martin. The gun was in Zimmerman`s waistband and was exposed during the scuffle on the ground.

No one, I repeat no one, in the 911 calls mentioned a gun until after the shot was fired, yet for some stupid reason a lot of uninformed people believe that Zimmerman stood over Martin and shot him while he was begging for his life, which is a complete fabrication that`s inconsistent with the evidence.
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Male 4,793
"The 911 operator asks right out "is he black or hispanic".. The racism goes really deep in the US... "

That is entirely untrue. If the operator can get information such as "the suspect was a black male wearing jeans and a blue hoodie" then police know who to look for when they get there. How many other black men do you think there are in the area? now how many of them do you think would happen to be wearing the same clothes as this one?

It`s a form of quick identification, idiot.
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Male 2,389
@CreamK - it`s most likely the software the 911 operator is using asks that question. I have the same thing at work that asks if a person is white, black(hispanic) or black(non-hispanic).

I just think that if Mr. Superhero had just called it in, watched from a distance, waited for the cops, and talked to them when they arrived all of this could have been avoided.

If he did follow the go egging on a confrontation then he`s got a problem. If he confronted the guy with intention of holding him there, he`s got a problem. There are just way to many unknowns in this case but I still that Zimm`s got to much going against him to get out. The way it`s looking though is he`ll probably walk away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist, which is a shame.
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Male 1,421
The 911 operator asks right out "is he black or hispanic".. The racism goes really deep in the US...
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Male 4,902
His nickname was "Slim", case closed...
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Male 40,764
@grindinblade: It`s a fact, we don`t know who`s calling for help, or what`s going on at that moment before the gunshot.
Until then it`s moot to claim anyone is `wrong` for thinking one way or the other, eh?
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Male 234
Found that news article you were quoting. Fox news orlando...why am I not surprised. Why is Fox the only news station with an anonymous source?
Also how would Zimmerman who outweighed Trayvon by 100lbs be pinned to the ground by him?
You still never answered anything about the one piece of actual evidence the 911 tape where you can hear the cries for help. Who do you think that is given that we have heard Zimmerman`s voice in the other tape.
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Male 234
@CrakrJak not sure where you got that quote, no link. In the link I gave to witnesses talking to Anderson Cooper they said that Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon.
As I said before even if Zimmerman had any injuries doesn`t mean it can automatically be considered self defense. If someone came at me with a gun I would do my best to disarm or injure them to preserve my own life.
Finally did you listen to that other video I linked? Do you really believe that is Zimmerman calling out for help?
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Male 17,511
..and for the record Trayvon had a gray `hoody`, Zimmerman was wearing the red sweater.
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Male 234
@5cats the only injuries I read about was a bloody nose and a cut on the back of his head, he didn`t even need to go to the hospital. The problem with this defense though is it is unclear who is trying to defend themselves, and only one person is alive to tell his side of the story. If someone approached you with a gun I am sure you would fight and injure them in some way. Just because he had some injuries doesn`t automatically make it self defense.
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Male 17,511
"The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, `Help! Help!` and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.

John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard one gun shot. - MyFox Orlando Monday, 27 Feb 2012.

The police report said that Zimmerman`s back was wet and he was covered in grass as if he had been on the ground.

He was bleeding from his nose and the back of the head, the report said.

A police officer said he overheard Zimmerman say, `I was yelling for someone to help me but no one would help me` while he was being treated by paramedics. - Daily Mail 9 March 2012.

Posting this because some of you believe I `made it up`. Next time do some research instead of regurgitating spoon fed bullsh|t from the liberal media.
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Male 40,764
@grindinblade: A Grand Jury has been called, evidence will come out!
The cops can`t just arrest everyone they come in contact with, some discretion is good! I`m thinking Zimmerman`s injuries were serious enough that the cops believed he was indeed attacked. If Martin was un-marked (except, obviously, from being shot) that too would influence the decision. NOTE: idk if that`s the case, nothing I`ve read says Martin was or was not battered & bloodied from their fight. But Zimmerman was.
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Male 3,445
My mind certainly is not made up, and he could be saying "f*cking punks" in that recording. I just have a problem with Zimmerman being given the benefit of the doubt by certain people, when the victim can`t defend himself, and when Zimmerman has the shady past, the gun, and a huge size advantage.
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Male 234
@5Cats I don`t disagree that rule should apply to person A&B, but since when did the police decide that when an armed person kills an unarmed person that is self defense without any need for a trial. The man should be arrested and put on trial, let the facts come out there.
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Male 40,764
And for the record: Zimmerman`s racist slur does NOT help his case.
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Male 40,764
@davymid: Why are conservatives appearing to defend this guy? I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again:

Liberals: Rule `A` for you, rule `B` for me!
Conservatives: Rules A & B apply to everyone.

So when someone is accused of something, I look at the evidence presented and make up my mind. Race, gender and such are only considered IF the evidence indicates they are a factor.

When Rodney King made the news, at first I thought "Oh my! Bad cops caught beating some poor innocent guy based on race!"
THEN I saw the un-edited video! One of the cops, the one who hits him the most, is black! And King clearly attacks them, shrugs off the tazer and repeadedly, over and over again, trys to get up and fight!
After that I thought: King was hopped up on PCP, he`s lucky he didn`t get shot.
See?
Until the EVIDENCE is clearer, I give equal credence to both sides. I`m not saying it`ll stay that way once we learn more of course.
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Male 234
@crakrjak also not sure what witnesses you read about saying Trayvon was on top, the ones I`ve read said it was Zimmerman.
here
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Male 3,445
"If Zimmerman didn`t have a gun and he had been killed by Martin, Would this be called a `hate crime`, a `national outrage` or a `murder` ? No, it wouldn`t."

Yes, it would be called a murder because that`s technically what it would be. Trayvon Martin would have been arrested and prosecuted for the murder of George Zimmerman.

Martin was unarmed. How is he going to kill George Zimmerman, a man who is 100 lbs heavier?
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Male 234
@CrakrJak how can you honestly say that the man`s voice in this video is the same voice yelling for help in the other 911 tape
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Female 2,674
What makes this a hate crime isn`t the fact that a hispanic/white man killed a black kid. It`s the facts leading up to it. Trayvon being assumed to be suspicious for no reason, for example, and the "coon" insult actually is audible (not really on the post here, but I`ve heard audio elsewhere where it was very clear). If the situation was completely the same except Trayvon killed Zimmerman then it wouldn`t be a hate crime because Zimmerman was still the one stalking/falsely accusing Trayvon. If the situations were completely reversed, Trayvon was an older black man following around a hispanic/white teenager, finding him suspicious for no reason, muttering racial slurs under his breath. Then yeah, probably.
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Female 2,674
"If Zimmerman didn`t have a gun and he had been killed by Martin, Would this be called a `hate crime`, a `national outrage` or a `murder` ? No, it wouldn`t. In fact it wouldn`t have made it past a brief local news story.
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First of all, this is one of many times where you`ve assumed that Trayvon would have murdered Zimmerman. I`m getting tired of repeatedly telling you that this is unlikely but that it actually would have been in self defense because Trayvon was the one being stalked by a creepy guy and that was completely in Zimmerman`s control, not Trayvon`s.

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Male 17,511
davymid: This incident doesn`t rise to the level of murder. Zimmerman was assaulted, that was a fact. Witnesses say Martin was on top of Zimmerman hitting him. The police interviewed him and believed all the available evidence concurred with Zimmerman`s account of the shooting.

There is no evidence of intent to kill or premeditation on Zimmerman`s part and if there were it would have to rise to the level of it being without a shadow of a doubt to be considered `murder` in legal terms.

Once again, I have to ask, and no one has yet answered it directly, If Zimmerman didn`t have a gun and he had been killed by Martin, Would this be called a `hate crime`, a `national outrage` or a `murder` ? No, it wouldn`t. In fact it wouldn`t have made it past a brief local news story.
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Male 17,511
jamie: [quote]nice job making all that stuff up bro...except that none of it actually happened and not a single news source has stated ANYTHING even remotely like that.[/quote]

I didn`t make it up, before this was blown all out of proportion the local news outlets commented on the redacted police report, that they claimed to have.

Zimmerman`s side of the story had to be pieced together from different news outlets, because none of them have shown the actual police report.

I`m not a racist or a troll. Apparently you haven`t looked into very many news sources, especially the local ones.

Sometimes you have to dig through a lot of crap to get to the essential parts of a news story. It`s apparent that you didn`t even know that Zimmerman was assaulted and treated by paramedics on scene.

You`re claiming you know the `reality` of this incident, when all the knowledge you`ve demonstrated is a lack of research and a willingness to believe suspicion,
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Male 12,138
Why am I unsurprised that the people defending this guy`s apparent vigilante actions are the usual far right-wing conservatives such as Crakrjak and 5Cats? Sure, it wasn`t murder. Whatever helps you sleep at night guys.
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Male 3,445
"Just read through all the comments. There is NO way you can hear him say coons clear as day."

I don`t hear it either. I just don`t understand why certain posters are more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Zimmerman, who obviously didn`t handle the situation well and has a shady history.
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Male 180
Just read through all the comments. There is NO way you can hear him say coons clear as day.
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Male 2,344
CrakrJak

nice job making all that stuff up bro...except that none of it actually happened and not a single news source has stated ANYTHING even remotely like that.

you are as suspect by EVERYONE here a white racist that cannot accept reality.

or you are just a troll.
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Male 180
I have listened to this thing 50 times and I can`t tell if he is saying `coons` or not. It doesn`t sound like coons to me.
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Male 3,445
"I can guess why, to stir up racial hatred during an election year."

And there goes your credibility.
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Male 3,445
"I can guess why, to stir up racial hatred during an election year."

And there goes your credibility.
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Male 17,511
lauriloo: It`s hard to fake a bloody nose, head trauma, grass stains and eyewitness stories, in the very few minutes it took for the police to arrive on scene, especially with so many people watching after the shot was fired.
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Female 1,803
"It wasn`t the kid that screamed for help, it was Zimmerman that did. Also, the kid wasn`t shot while running away, he was shot after he tackled Zimmerman, bloodied his nose, beat his head against the sidewalk and then tried to take Zimmerman`s, lawfully carried, gun."

Wow, apparently you were there because that`s the only way you could have all those intricate details. Or you are naive enough to believe a guy who knows he`s going straight to the death penalty or life in prison if he doesn`t come up with a good story of why he shot a guy carrying Skittles and iced tea.
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Male 68
"I can guess why, to stir up racial hatred during an election year."

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Male 17,511
It wasn`t the kid that screamed for help, it was Zimmerman that did. Also, the kid wasn`t shot while running away, he was shot after he tackled Zimmerman, bloodied his nose, beat his head against the sidewalk and then tried to take Zimmerman`s, lawfully carried, gun.

Wow, the news channels are really spinning this into the biggest pile of crap ever. Why aren`t these news channels releasing scans of the redacted police report ? Why are they not mentioning the assault on Zimmerman ?

I can guess why, to stir up racial hatred during an election year.
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Male 1,678
"This continues to get uglier, but still not murder."

He chased an unarmed child, who was screaming for help, down the street for no particular reason other than he was looking suspicious (a bit rich coming from a dude who spends his nights sitting in the dark spying on strangers whilst armed with a gun), then when he catches up with him, he shoots him dead.

How, in under God, could anyone, anyone at all, not consider that murder?
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Male 2,384
Officer: "are you following him?"
Zimmerman: "yes"
Officer: "OK we don`t need you to do that"
that should have been the end of it
but NOOOO people in florida have the "right" to carry hand guns around like its no big deal and then poo like this happens, drating america... come on
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Female 2,674
"It should be illegal for these neighborhood watch people to have guns with them"
I`m pretty sure it`s illegal. They are supposed to never leave their cars while on duty and to not be armed. I heard that he wasn`t even an official watch though, and that he`s go up to people`s doors and knock on them while "on duty" to accuse them of stuff and the neighbors had complained about him before. Can`t remember where I heard that though so.
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Female 280
I heard it too. Arrogant prick.
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Female 1,803
Hate to say it but I think Zimmerman will do something to prevent ending up in prison, either runs or kills himself. It would be a shame if he didn`t pay for what it seems he did to that poor kid. Cop, judge, jury and executioner all in one. It should be illegal for these neighborhood watch people to have guns with them. All they should do is report what they see and let the cops handle the rest.
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Female 155
Poor kid. He just did what anyone would do in that situation - see some creeper following you, run away. Disgusting on the police department, shame on them. At least the big guys are investigating now.
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Male 3,445
He`s not white? Anyway, it can still be a hate crime if he isn`t white.
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Female 90
@FoolsPrussia
that was crazy. i wonder what zimmerman was doing to trayvon that caused him to scream. maybe he noticed he was being followed and got scared?
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Female 90
i definitely heard "f*ckin` coons."
this whole situation is awful.
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Male 662
@ForSquirel what do you mean it is not a hate crime? WTF?!?! He calls him a coon!!!! It doesn`t matter if he is not white, and just because he looks Hispanic doesn`t mean he is. The man needs to be in jail now. He must know that he is going to jail. I bet it will be hard to find him. He will f*cking fry.
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Male 2,389
So glad the shooter wasn`t white. Sure`d hate for this to be considered a hate crime or racially motivated. That aside. This dude needs to fry. He chased a kid down and killed him. That`s murder. How is he not under arrest? drating ridiculous.
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Male 2,737
I call them shines.
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Male 1,008
wow, he definitely says it at 2:21, he is going to be real popular in prison.
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Male 25,416
wow
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Male 35
wow i heard it. didnt expect to but he says it clear as day.
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Male 1,399
Luckily, the "Stand Your Ground" law won`t protect Zimmerman. Seems like he followed Martin and instigated the confrontation.
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Male 4,242
the kid did it. he must have been looking for trouble.
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Male 3,445
I posted this in the other thread too, but you can hear the kid screaming for help and then the gunshot in this 911 call:

http://youtu.be/3WI4x2JPcOA

Hard to believe Zimmerman felt threatened based on this one.
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Male 1,377
CrakrJak is it definitive that he said "he is running" twice and was told not to follow him?
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Male 3,445
I certainly can`t tell what that noise is, but it can probably be clarified a bit with some good software.
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Male 17,511
Otto: He may not have said anything there at all, condenser mics are well known for producing audio artifacts.
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Male 438
You are right Crakr,

I think what he said was "f`kn spoon".

He must have stepped on a spoon as he was getting out of the car.
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Male 17,511
Not definitive. I`ve seen `Ghost Hunter` shows with the same sort of audio artifacts, then the creators suggest what was said and then you believe you hear it.
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Male 40,764
This continues to get uglier, but still not murder.
The article includes a bit more information, Zimmerman is claiming he was jumped from behind. He got out of his truck to check the street name? I thought he lived there.
A Grand Jury is probably the right way to go, they just examine facts, not pass judgement (I think, could be wrong though).
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Male 3,445
It`s hard to tell but if that`s what he said, then he`s a dumbass AND a racist. Why would you incriminate yourself on a 911 call?
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Female 1,008
He DEFinitely says `drat!ng coons.
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Female 142
I wasn`t even listening for it or paying attention to the time on the video and I heard something that sounded very much like "f***ing coons." This is looking more and more like a hate crime, not that I ever believed it was self defense. The kid had skittles and iced tea, not exactly deadly weapons.
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Male 15,270
The police will never prosecute him. Should though.
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Female 8,043
Link: Full 911 Call From Zimmerman (Neighborhood Watch) [Rate Link] - Zimmerman states twice that Martin ran from him. It is also being said that he whispered `f*ckin coons` at 2:21.
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