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    ElijaBlack Male 18-29
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    March 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    Link: Facing Execution for Three Tweets - If religion doesn`t scare you yet, watch this video.
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    Lobotomy Male 13-17
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Religion doesn`t scare me, extremism does.
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    THAT kind of religion has scared me for a long time.
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    humans are silly creatures
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Religion is the greatest insult to human intelligence still prevalent today, and the sooner agnostics and atheists stop tolerating blatant stupidity, the better. If you`re religious, even in the slightest, please snap out of it. Get with the real world.
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    vstorm Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    God Bless Thunderfoot
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm
    I`m with Lobotomy
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    Toomuchcoffe Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm
    Only 3 Tweets?thats a tolerant religon. my wife would kill me if she read just one of mine.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    Humans are not silly, subhumans who live by the rules of others are. Religion is for the weak and stupid. Don`t believe it? Listen to those who argue for the truth.Religion is a lie. Those who believe it are fools.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Once again, when people say we have to respect all faiths and cultures, I say "Why?" That culture doesn`t deserve to be respected.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    look, this is the 21st century. We can fire spacecrafts out of the solar system. This is just is just a strong man. Religious simply doesn`t .. it can`t induce this sort of level of psychopathic behavior in people.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    @Zeegrr60 what about The Force?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    I think belief in religion is genetic because it`s been nonsense to me since a kid even though I was raised Catholic. There are Mormon missionaries somewhere near me I get to sit with them once a year usually at the start of fall. The last group seemed genuinely interested in science but refused to believe God is man-made. I asked them if there was only one singe God, why were there so many interpretations of him? They always leave thinking.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    @madest, just curious, can you suck your own.... too?
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    PringleMan Female 13-17
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    I agree with Lobotomy.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    I am a believer in a higher power.

    I believe that this guy is mostly very right.

    I have lived around the world, mostly in Africa and have come to the conclusion that while you cannot judge another culture as worthy or unworthy simply from your cultural perspective, you CAN AND SHOULD rail against any culture or religion that calls for a persons death because that religion feels transgressed by that person.

    Multiculturalism is a wonderful concept and one that should be progressed and I strongly feel after having studied it for years as a psychology student that IT DOES NOT promote the idea that if something is cultural it is correct and cannot be judged.

    With that in mind, Islam has become intolerant as a whole and has become polarized. There are many among that religion that do not adhere to extreme views and beliefs but they are being overshadowed by tyrannical leaders and followers. The world has to impose violations on those that commit crimes
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    Rawrg-"Get with the real world."

    In the real world, ~84% of the people are followers some type of religion. (100% follow their beliefs)

    Asking the vast majority of people to follow YOUR BELIEF* that `religion is an insult` is living in a fantasy land.

    *yes, it is your BELIEF, as in `your opinion` and `not based in fact`.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    This guy is lumping all the worst of the muslim religion together and saying all religions are like that, which is total crap.

    Only muslims have courts with religious leaders as judges, where rape victims are stoned to death, apostates are sentenced to hanging and no freedom of speech.
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    DeanoBoz Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    You`re afraid to say "If Islam doesn`t scare you..." so you lump all religion in.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    You`re afraid to say "If Islam doesn`t scare you..." so you lump all religion in.
    You nailed it, Deano. Whenever Christians have the temerity to express their beliefs in public, liberals are quick to condemn Christianity by name, but when Muslims behave like violent superstitious barbarians, they condemn "religion."

    There are only two explanations for this: Either they are are craven moral cowards, or they are siding with the barbarians.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    "Once again, when people say we have to respect all faiths and cultures, I say "Why?" That culture doesn`t deserve to be respected."

    Bingo! That`s how I feel about America.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm
    Only muslims have courts with religious leaders as judges, where rape victims are stoned to death, apostates are sentenced to hanging and no freedom of speech.
    Not even close. One needs only go back to the days of the Salem Witch Trials to see Christianity is not really any better. Hell, even today we have American Christians trying to do things like support the Ugandan "Kill the gays" bill that would give the death penalty to homosexuals.

    Are all Christians this bad? Of course not. Just as not all Muslims are bad people. Extremists are simply much more visible to the public eye. And it`s a hell of a lot easier to condemn people who don`t believe the same thing you do--even when, in this case, you do believe the same damned things they do. Christianity and Islam are effectively the same friggin` religion. The differences are miniscule compared to what`s the same.

    Both are barbaric cults that have hurt the world far more than they`ve helped
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    @MeGrendel - Stop using majority opinion as a basis for evidence. A majority of the Nazis supported the slaughter of various "undesirables." A majority of the people believed the Earth was flat. Sea monsters used to be considered a legitimate threat by the majority of the world.

    The fact is that religion is clearly nonsense, but people cling to it because they`ve been indoctrinated, or reality is less convenient for them. Face it, you`re wrong, and every day you continue believing in something that has absolutely zero credible or reproducible evidence, you will continue to be.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    And it`s not a fantastical belief that the world will someday marginalize religion. Many religions have already died out, and society is evolving at a phenomenal rate. Only 20 years ago, there were proportionally a third as many admitted atheists/agnostics. Society is evolving, but it will take atheists and agnostics standing up for themselves instead of politely deferring whenever religion is brought up.

    I`m done trying to be persuasive. Be responsible. Grow up people, and face reality.
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    Mantistador Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm
    the guy voicing this sounds like the guy who voices little big planet 2...
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    March 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm
    "Bingo! That`s how I feel about America."

    Yeah? What are you going to do about it, bitch? We`ll kick your ass and take your oil!
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    LightShaded Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:17 pm
    I enjoy the occasional vegetable.
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:22 pm
    Anyone thought of what people would cling to to treat each other terribly if religion did NOT exist?

    I know that religion can be used to promote hate, but when this is done it is by a the leaders promoting certain scriptures and ignoring other one. Also, you generally have a populace that is WILLING to hate someone anyway. (Killed my brother, bombed our homes, took our resources...etc.)

    But relgion is just a tool for it. But if religion did not exist. People would use some other means to go to war and rile people up. There would be some symbolic thing or group, they would tout high ideals, and make people feel they are persecuted.

    War never changes. Religion really isn`t the blame deep down.

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    "One needs only go back to the days of the Salem Witch Trials to see Christianity is not really any better"
    I agree, no religion should be the LAW of the land. But you had to go back over 300 years to find an example. I think to find an example in islamic culture you need only go back about a week. Western culture has moved beyond church/law....we evolved socially.
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    Doctor_M Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:29 pm
    If you truly think insanity like this comes from belief in a higher power, rather than crazy people doing twisted bullpoo and justifying it whatever way they can, you`re retarded. Stalin murdered millions without a bible. Kim Jong Il held a population in submission and depravity using political beliefs. The evil will find a way.

    I`m all for a good religious debate, but if you look at this and say `We need to depose god` rather than `We need to depose that guy`, kindly f*** off
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:48 pm
    "But you had to go back over 300 years to find an example"

    Christianity is the more popular religion among more advanced civilizations, so it has become more progressive. Still, it is the basis of a lot of nonsensical or unethical legislation and action in this country:

    Discrimination against homosexuals.
    Stripping of personal freedoms such as drug use, gambling, etc.
    Stripping of a woman`s right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
    Removal of sex education curriculum in schools.
    Fighting of stem cell research.
    Fighting of separation of church and state.
    It is a basis for leaders` actions like GWB when they go to war.

    But most importantly: it is used as a substitute for critical thought, making people think they have the answers when they clearly need to think on the matter.

    Now that may not be Holocaust 2.0 or akin to what a monstrosity Islam is, but it`s holding this nation back.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:51 pm
    @Doctor_M: Belief in gods fosters irrational ideas. Sure, some people reach those ideas just fine on their own, but religion certainly doesn`t help.

    To quote Steven Weinberg: "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

    Religion simply causes harm. It does no good in the world.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    I agree, no religion should be the LAW of the land. But you had to go back over 300 years to find an example. I think to find an example in islamic culture you need only go back about a week. Western culture has moved beyond church/law....we evolved socially.
    Actually, in that same post I pointed out an example that is a factor to this day: modern, living American Christians trying to get homosexuals executed in other countries because they can`t get such laws passed here in the US. Their religiously-fueled hate is so intense they`re working on a global scale to inflict death for their cause.

    How is that any better than the Muslims, again?
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    Doctor_M Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    @Yaekurza, I was with you right up till what I hope was a trolling line at the end there. That was a whole lot of stupid coming from someone who seems to consider themselves enlightened. You seem to have fixated on weird old-testament style stuff that says `don`t eat shellfish because god hates it` and the like. Most religions, and for this argument I`ll use Christianity, Islam, and Budhism, focus on the ideas of helping your fellow man, doing good deeds, and resisting temptations like greed. Charity is one of the pillars of Islam, and most Christian churches spend most of their profits on missionary work that brings medicine and education to thousands if not millions (yes, I realize they also preach their religion in this work). To say that religion does no harm in this world would be ignorant. To say it does no good is equally so.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm
    Doctor_M, the point is that religion does no good that would not be done anyway. Good people will always do good things. Thankfully, the majority of people are good people. The religion is not some catalyst that causes good to happen--it`s simply the venue most people use for their good.

    But it`s not needed. Atheist and secular charities are doing much of the same work religious institutions do. But without, for instance, the discrimination displayed by the Salvation Army and other religious charities.
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    clockwork208 Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2012 at 11:45 pm
    Wow, he didn`t even get really flamed but is crying. He wouldn`t last 10 minutes in an UN-moderated forum.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    March 10, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    Chris Crocker is a guy?
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 12:51 am
    this guy is such a retard. He just isn`t funny in the slightest, don`t understand the obsession...
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:01 am
    "in the name of science!"

    humans are natually stupid, and there will always be crazy ones. For example, hitler killed other christians, did he not? WW2 wasnt a battle of religions. sure jews were the target, but homosexuals, gypsies, and anyone within hitler`s ideal laubemrelms (sorry for the misspelling). By drawing Muhammad, only you doing is provoking, and also, in my opinion, from such :enlightened, sophisticated people, thats a bit hypocritical. If that guy hamza just did those 3 tweets, and only those 3 tweets, then i say Saudi is in the wrong. As a muslim male, even i dont want to live in Saudi. Not until they reach the true islam state it once was before all the corruption. A statement that the prophet pbuh) said to on companion after the companion beat one of his slave is "are you still ignorant? did you not learn anything?" later, the man freed his slave, and repented. sorry for the rant.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:08 am
    Yaezakura: That was 300 years ago, just how long are you going to hold that incident, which involved a lone sect of Christianity that no longer exists, against every other Christian in America ?

    Christianity and Islam are effectively the same friggin` religion.

    Not hardly, and if you can`t tell the difference you`re a bigot.

    Both are barbaric cults that have hurt the world far more than they`ve helped

    Which religion started the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Children`s Fund, Habitat for Humanity, Samaritan’s Purse, the Pew Charitable Trust, YMCA, YWCA, and the United Way just to name a few ? The answer, of course, it was Christians.

    So stop with your idiotic comparisons.
  41. Profile photo of Ilikelogic
    Ilikelogic Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:25 am
    Hello Gerry1of1
    The muslims are evolving too.
    And i`m sure they won`t need 300 years to be on a western level.
    If we, as a western civilisation (america, europe..) (btw: we call ourselves civilized...??) would stop robbing whatever we need (mainly oil) from other countries, those countries would prosper too and extremism would by itself reduce to levels like in our society. (It won`t go away completely, but i think we can live with those few extremists we have)
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    Profworm Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 2:00 am
    It goes in cycles. Back when Europe was balls deep in the dark ages, the middle east was busy inventing new maths and naming the stars. They`re about to swing back away from fundamentalism, but the fanatics are going to cling to it as long as they can.

    `About to` is a relative term, of course. Decades, generations... Hopefully sooner than later.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2012 at 3:22 am
    religion will be modern man`s downfall
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 5:44 am
    @CrakrJak-Don`t forget soup kitchens, and food disbursement centers, Alcoholics Anonymous as well as NA, and Al-Anon.Emergency shelters also.
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    Ilikelogic Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 8:01 am
    By the way, when looking through the internet, America seems to be: Westboro baptists, Paris Hilton, Justin Bieber, Rick Santorum, Mississippi republicans,...
    I know, by talking to american friends (and watching thedailyshow) that this is a onesided, incorrect and offensive view of the USA.
    When looking through the internet, islam and the middle east seems to be: terrorism, religious extremism,...
    Maybe the crazy guy wanting to burn the koran and the crazy people burning the american flag are the only ones getting enough attention on the internet.
    (Same applies to Justin Bieber: it`s your own fault. Stop watching him on TV and stop listening to his songs;)
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    talon0325 Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 8:41 am
    And after 7 days of supposedly "creating " the earth, ( science has proven differently) This lazy prick never came back to work to finish the job. He left a bunch of radicals around with under developed minds and these idiots gained control of the sheep. Maybe the guys with the dish cloths on their heads should get out of the sun and get real. how friggin archaic are they? Death by whipping or stoning?. They are fecal matter on the face of society. Basic belief in even the most primitive society is that there is a higher power. How come each and everyone has a different interpretation of how the rules work? Even the catholics have boy diddling issues, and are one of the richest religions in the world. Yet the "Lord" was as poor as crap. Could it be that mother nature is gonna fight back and get rid of the virus on it`s face. She has already ordered every tube of `pro active` And is about to cleanse the world of all the pimples left behind.Let the radicals destroy ea
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 8:50 am
    I don`t understand the byline on this. So if SOME religious people are crazy murderers, religion has NO value? What the F, IAB?
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:22 am
    "Stalin murdered millions without a bible. Kim Jong Il held a population in submission and depravity using political beliefs. The evil will find a way."

    Your first example is 100% true, but just because people do bad things devoid of religion does not make the opposite true. Also, at the time, the belief in communism, and the state, as well as the cult of personality surrounding Stalin, replaced religion as a substitute for critical thought.

    In N. Korea, Kim Jong Il, and his family, are touted as essentially holy. There`s a lot of mysticism, such as when Kim Il Sung died, everyone wept in unison and a thousand cranes bore him aloft to heaven, or some nonsense along those lines.

    So basically, anything that attempts to prevent people from thinking about important issues by substituting convenient answers is evil in my opinion.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:53 am
    The Salvation Army is a business with ranked income and political structure. It feeds off the poor while promoting the opposite. Look at the financial books of any charity and you will be disgusted. Oxfam whatever, you pick and then do the research. Charities like any greedy corporation dish out salaries in the hundreds of thousands. It is like being in a secret club to work for one. These financial records are in public reach if you want to see for yourself. I took a year off and hitch-hiked across the USA then into British Columbia and across Canada. I had $20 dollars in my pocket when I started that journey. I wined and dinned in every tramp hotel/food establishment I could hit on that odyssey. I can tell you all from experience; the joints that were religious were crappy. They usually shoved a bible down your throat for an hour and then fed you slop for 15 minutes. Many shelters are run like prisons; these joints would blow your mind.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:54 am
    The Nashville Rescue Mission on Lafayette street is a facility built to hide the homeless problem. It is a prison. I double dare any of you in the Nashville area to check into that place for a weekend and tell me what you think when you come out. The outreach operations that did not use religion were simply amazing like the Delonis Center in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Some of the churchy places did NOT throw the bible at you but they were always ready to save you if you were willing to succumb to the power of the Lord.
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    r66tramp Male 40-49
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    March 11, 2012 at 10:55 am
    . In Austin Texas there is a tramp meal that comes with a sermon(boring) but after that they start singing and by Joe if I didn’t love it. It was fantastic fun, I will never forget that place. It was near East 7th and Trinity. And then there was Caritas in Austin, they were churchy but my goodness what a great lunch? Anyway don’t believe everything you see and hear. Go out into the world and discover the truth as it pertains to YOU. If you are young, strong and have your wits…then take a year off from life and join the tramps for a spell. You will learn what humans really are at the core.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:03 am
    The only thing I got out of it, is how f**ked up Islam is.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:23 am
    The only thing I got out of it, is how f**ked up Islam is.

    No, this is how fu<ked up Saudi Arabia is.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Which religion started the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Children`s Fund, Habitat for Humanity, Samaritan’s Purse, the Pew Charitable Trust, YMCA, YWCA, and the United Way just to name a few ?

    Which religion started the Red Crescent society, Al Fatiha, Muslim Charity?

    Not hardly, and if you can`t tell the difference you`re a bigot.

    Ad Hominem, that`s not the definition of bigotry.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Hey drat `em. They hate us, we hate them. Or are these the Saudis? Anyway, if they hate us then I hate them back, so there! :p
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    wow... thats all i can say!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    I don`t like the style of this video, it`s kinda annoying.

    But I LOVE the tear-down of "coexist" at about 1:45!!!

    He blames all religions? But currently there`s only ONE (Islam) that is killing people for this sort of thing. And it isn`t rare or isolated, it happens a lot, and their governments are doing it.
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    Willsk84food Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    Right when I saw the picture "debunking" coexist, I realized it was horse poo.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    But currently there`s only ONE (Islam) that is killing people for this sort of thing


    Except now we got Kony, and 19 years ago there was that nasty Waco incident.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 11, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    @yaezakura: "modern, living American Christians trying to get homosexuals executed in other countries"

    Are you bat-poo crazy too? How does the actions of a few crazy peole equate to the entire Government doing something? The Saudi (and many other Islamic) GOVERNMENT does it!
    Your fake `equivalence` makes you look very stupid. (good thing I looked up how to spell "equivalence" properly, lolz!)

    @willsk84food: you like that hippy crapola? Suit yourself.
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Saw Chris Crocker. Stopped video.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    Are you bat-poo crazy too? How does the actions of a few crazy peole equate to the entire Government doing something? The Saudi (and many other Islamic) GOVERNMENT does it!
    Scale isn`t the point. In both cases, it`s religion being used to generate hatred and cause death. Even one death in the name of religion is too many. I don`t care what that religion is. And the fact that, in the modern day, Christianity is tamer than it used to be isn`t a factor. It`s still nonsense that causes harm in the world.

    Even here in America is causes direct harm to people`s lives. I can`t marry my lover. In my state, I can be fired for my sexuality. In some places it`s dangerous just for me to EXIST due to religiously motivated hatred.

    So no, I don`t really consider Christianity any better than Islam. It blow up a few less buses, but it ruins just as many lives.
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    notorious98 Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    @Yaezakura

    That`s a very narrow viewpoint. If you believe that religion is the biggest motivating factor on why you can`t marry your lover, you have yet to experience much of the world. Christians aren`t the only people who don`t believe in gay marriage. In fact, I personally know a Wiccan and an agnostic/atheist (not really sure which) who also don`t agree with it. Personally, I am a Christian and I believe same sex marriage should be legal. So please don`t generalize people or religions. It just makes you look ignorant.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    @notorious98:

    There is a large difference between an outlier and a trend. You also have to consider other factors when making any assessment. For instance, that atheist/agnostic person and the Wiccan were both raised in the US, which has a long history of discrimination against homosexuals. Even if their religious beliefs have changed, biases can often be even harder. This doesn`t excuse their actions--they`re still bigots, and are personally responsible for their views and actions--but it helps establish how that atypical mindset for an atheist or a Wiccan could be formed.

    The point is, however, that those examples are atypical. They are not the norm for people with those beliefs. There are no atheist or Wiccan organizations funneling millions of dollars in the effort to continue homosexual discrimination.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 11, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    I do not for a moment believe every Christian is a bad person or a bigot. I`ve dated girls who identify as Christian. But that doesn`t change the fact that Christianity as a whole has a negative impact on my life, and the lives of others like me. The faith causes otherwise good people to do bad things because they believe that God demands it of them.

    And yes, it does get a little better every year. People become more accepting, old, unchangeable bigots die off, and the world improves. But even when all is said and done, religion promotes a mindset where blind faith is valued as highly as fact is. It is poison to critical thinking and making rational decisions.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6254 posts
    March 11, 2012 at 7:26 pm
    Rawrg-"Stop using majority opinion as a basis for evidence."

    Please invest in a reading comprehension course. I did not use majority opinion as a basis for evidence. I provided the FACT that ~84% of the worlds population are followers of some type of religion. I did not attempt to use this as a basis to prove, or disprove, the existence of a diety. I pointed out the REALITY that you have to deal with a lot of religious people.

    Rawrg-"The fact is that religion is clearly nonsense"

    I`m sorry, but you have established no such fact. Just your BELIEF that it is so.

    Rawrg-"you`re wrong,"

    How do you determine that when I have not shared what my belief happens to be? I just pointed out the fact that in the real world you have to deal with religious people.

    Rawrg-"Grow up people, and face reality."

    The only reality you`ve presented (as you`ve presented nothing but biased opinion) is tha
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
    1127 posts
    March 11, 2012 at 11:30 pm
    When there was no ability to police people religion had its uses..now its simply obselete. Unfortuneatly those with power ensured their power would be retained, oldest story in the book.
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    Ozmose Male 30-39
    448 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 3:01 am
    I support the execution of anyone who uses Twitter.
    You can get rid of all the Facebook people too while you`re at it.
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    akabane Male 18-29
    1093 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 3:46 am
    What is worse? Executing one man who broke the Saudi law and knows the consequences of doing so, and went to a muslim country, in which he knew he was a fugitive *doesnt matter what he did, look at the scenario, if he wanted to escape, he should have went to the states or europe or something), or a soldier killing 16 innocent civilians in a country they are trying to
    "liberate". I already know what you guys are going to say, so i dont know why i bother to ask.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
    1707 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 8:22 am
    How can you tell when someone`s wrong. When they jump to violence the second they can`t prove you wrong. If they only way to get your point across is by threats or violence, than you should think about why that is. If your really right, there is no need to act in such ways.
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    RPossum Male 30-39
    1095 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 8:44 am
    I wonder what has the better evolutionary path. The guy with the good idea or the guy who kills the guy with a good idea?
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    furrything Male 50-59
    1351 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 9:02 am
    Hey, if it wasn`t religion keeping folk together. Oh, wait.....
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    Hedkwab Male 18-29
    340 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 10:15 am
    I can`t stand a video that throws in 10000 stupid pop culture references just to keep idiots interested. You can tell who they are trying to market to. People who only keep watching for the stupid simpsons clips. Zzzzzz
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    Cajun: Lumping one stereotypical person in with a whole race is bigotry. Lumping one religion in with them all is also bigotry.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Lumping one stereotypical person in with a whole race is bigotry. Lumping one religion in with them all is also bigotry.
    Ah, but you missed the point of what I was saying. I said that Christianity and Islam are "practically the same religion". Not identical, but very similar. Both, for instance, worship the God of Abraham, and are derived from Judaism. The similarities in the belief systems far outstrip the differences. The only significant difference is "How important was this Jesus dude?" Which, if you recall, is also the only significant difference between Christianity and Judaism, yet you wouldn`t be up in arms if I had said those two were nearly identical.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    Yaezakura, you`re being incredibly ignorant and naive. That`s the same load of bull my teachers and professors tried to indoctrinate us with and it simply doesn`t hold up to scrutiny.

    Here`s the main difference, in a nutshell: Judaism and Christianity are religions based in peace, with peaceful philosophers, thinkers, prophets as their primary focal points (Moses, Jesus, both peaceful men who relied on God to deliver them from evil). Occasionally, these religions have been co-opted by evil men, but these have been perversions and are not the norm.

    Islam, on the other hand, is a religion of war, with a warrior (some might say mass-murderer) as its primary focus, that being Mohammed. Followers are encouraged, by the writings of their "prophet", to engage in war and murder to further their religion. Are there peaceful muslims? Of course, but they are the aberration, the deviation from the norm.

    That`s the difference. Educate yourself.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm
    Ah yes, those peaceful Jews, who according to their own holy book eradicated every living person except the virgin girls of every village they came across. The same people who were told to wait by the road and snatch women away to rape into submission.

    Sorry, but no. Judaism and Christianity are no more peaceful than Islam is--not in teaching, and certainly not in fact. Sure, Jesus himself seemed a perfectly reasonable guy for his time, but I`ve yet to meet a single Christian who puts the words of Jesus above those of his disciples who were rather more hateful and war-like.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Here`s the main difference, in a nutshell: Judaism and Christianity are religions based in peace, with peaceful philosophers, thinkers, prophets as their primary focal points (Moses, Jesus, both peaceful men who relied on God to deliver them from evil). Occasionally, these religions have been co-opted by evil men, but these have been perversions and are not the norm.

    That doesn`t disprove yaezakura`s claim at all. His post was actually quite accurate.

    Yaezakura, you`re being incredibly ignorant and naive. That`s the same load of bull my teachers and professors tried to indoctrinate us with and it simply doesn`t hold up to scrutiny.
    So everyone is telling you this, and it`s what, some big conspiracy? But yeah, HE`S the naive one. You`re so ridiculous that I can`t tell if your post was troll bait or not.
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
    1090 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    i wonder if muhammad and his prophet ever had buttsex
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33110 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    @airsofter1 Muhammed IS the Prophet, they`re the same guy.

    "scale isn`t the point" Heck yes it is! Also the point: not being allowed (yet) to get married is FAR less troublesome that being killed by the government for being gay, you can agree on that yes?

    And going back 3000 years or 300 years to find atrocities? Not the same as it happening right here, right now! You cannot forgive mistakes made centruies ago, but crimes happening now are OK with you?

    "I said that Christianity and Islam are "practically the same religion""
    You`re just as wrong as when @Baalthy says the same bull. The Christian God does NOT care which hand you wipe your bum with, case closed.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    Also the point: not being allowed (yet) to get married is FAR less troublesome that being killed by the government for being gay, you can agree on that yes?
    If that was the extent of things, you`d be right. However, you overlooked everything else I said--like how I can be fired for being gay, or denied housing, or, depending on the neighborhood, beaten or killed. And that many Christians are actively trying not only to block progress in those areas, but to roll back progress in others.

    Do I have it as bad here as I would in some other places? Obviously not. That doesn`t it make it right, or excusable. The hate generated by one religion isn`t somehow more acceptable because another religion is worse.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
    2525 posts
    March 12, 2012 at 8:53 pm
    As a general rule, I hate religion. It pisses me off like nothing else can. I hate that it`s a subject we`re not allowed to criticize without being shouted down by the politically correct.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    March 13, 2012 at 6:57 am
    The hate generated by one religion isn`t somehow more acceptable because another religion is worse.
    Yeah, but the christian hate isn`t always in law, it`s just judgemental bigots* acting "on their own".

    *I didn`t say ALL christians are bigots so please don`t say I did.
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    Penguinato23 Male 18-29
    294 posts
    March 13, 2012 at 10:44 am
    I`m not afraid of religion. Religion itself can`t do anything to anyone. What I`m somewhat more concerned about are the people who latch on to religion.

    Hateful, judgmental people are so regardless of whether or not they believe in something. Many religions just so happen to cater to those peoples` desire to be intolerant and falsely elevate themselves above others. Plus it provides a method of validating their behavior; "No, I don`t hate because I`m unhappy and want the world to be too; I hate because GOD hates them!"

    I`ve heard many times that religion means something different to every person. Religion means what a person wants it to mean. Therefore, if someone claims that their religion necessitates hating others, the person/people themselves made it that way.

    People can and always will be able to find reasons to be judgmental no matter what. To me religion`s enduring popularity is a product of that, not a

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