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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    Link: AZ Sheriff Arpaio - Obama Birth Certificate Forged - Results of a volunteer `cold-case posse` investigation on President Obama`s birth certificate. Here we go again...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    You know what? I propose we just ELIMINATE the "natural borm citizen" requirement for the office of POTUS, this is ridiculous!
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    We should sell Arizona back to Mexico. They`re infecting the rest of the Union with their stupid.

    This is the same guy who bungled over 400 sex crime investigations on his watch.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    Isn`t this the ass hole that makes prisoners live in tents and wear pink underwear? The same ass hole who had his own Officer`s working for the Mexican Cartels.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    Well then, that settles it! Proof positive presented right there! Or, you know, something...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    What a shock.
    Who would have guessed when he announced he was investigating it, that this is what he would conclude?

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    rebetikas Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    At the heart of this issue is a stupid rule, that should really be abandoned by the US. What is the rule even trying to achieve? If a forgery/fraud took place, then yeah that`s pretty bad and people should be held to account.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    Really? The hillbillies have determined that the President`s BC is fake? What a shock!
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    And, they`re throwing in his Selective Service registration! That`s a new twist!

    Kudos for a new wrinkle, Tea Partiers! I mean, you know, boo for trying to impose your isms onto the rest of us, but, hey, kudos for trying something new.
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    Verenthi Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    And we present this evidence...nowhere.
    Let`s see how far it goes this time.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    The only thing that`s ever really concerned me, isn`t his BC or his selective service registration, it`s the fact that his social security number comes from Connecticut and he has never ever lived there. His Social Security number won`t even pass the government`s own E-Verify system and I find that extremely odd.

    However, as I`ve stated before, I think it`s a distraction, one designed to make his detractors look like nuts.

    There are much better, verifiable, reasons to vote to get him out of office, DDNA, Keystone pipeline refusal, Obamacare, the bailouts, the failed stimulus package and much more.
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    SephirothA83 Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    The fact still remains that the American people voted for him despite the question of whether he`s a national born citizen or not. The GOP did an awful job of trying to provide a good candidate for the election
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Crakr, I agree with you that there are "real" reasons to dump Obama. Unfortunately, the alternatives at this time are probably worse.

    Woe is us!
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    How long before these arguments are over what planet a person was born on?

    So lets say he was born in, oh I dont know, Kenya. Does this man`s presidency look like he had a Kenyan agenda?

    Just a bunch of white repulitards trying to keep a black man from extending his office time....

    ....for shame.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Gerry: I`d be willing to pay the cost, if for no other reason to get us financially back on track.

    The one I thought that had the best chance of that was Newt Gringrich because he had done it before during the Clinton years. That was the only congress in over forty years that balanced the budget.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:41 pm
    Obama IS a fake and a fraud! His whole life is shrowded in secrecy, yet he`s written TWO Auto-biographies?

    Most transparent President ever? Not hardly, not by a long ways.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    Wait! Crakr! When Clinton was president, it was *Gingrich* who balanced the budget, but now that Obama`s president, it`s *him* who`s at fault?!

    While I agree that we need to reel in our spending, we didn`t get here, nearly here, all under Obama`s watch. Not deflecting blame where it`s due, just pointing it out. Too, Clinton was the one who shut down the government. TWICE! By refusing to sign budgets until they were less than our income. So, credit Gingrich if you want, but, the facts are pretty clear on that one.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    Joe Arapio is a felon. He`s hated by Arizonans, in fact the Phoenix commission voted 13-0 for him to resign. He failed to investigate hundreds of sex-crime cases involving children. He`s pissed that the Justice department is coming down on his department for racism and civil rights abuses. His support for Arizona`s unconstitutional racial profiling law is about to go before the Supreme Court. His entire world is getting ready to crumble and this is his swan song. I suspect he has less than a year in his current position and It wouldn`t surprise me if he ends up in a pink jumpsuit from his own making.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    Isn`t this the ass hole that makes prisoners live in tents
    Yes @Cyberdine, the same tents the US Army is currently using. Only the prisoners are 12 to a tent, not 16 like in the Army, iirc...

    But the MSM simply must attack him! He`s not `liberal` and therefor is the enemy! How DARE he question King Obama?
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    "You know what? I propose we just ELIMINATE the "natural borm citizen" requirement for the office of POTUS, this is ridiculous!"

    I second this motion. The whole Natural Born Citizen thing is a product of Xenophobia born from the white founders of this country. We are a better people than this. Each person has a chance to be removed after 4 years (or sooner) and we have a military that wouldnt DARE fire on its own people if ruled by a dictator. Our laws as Americans protect against any risks that our Xenophobic founders could have thought of.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    @CJ, Newt Gingrich couldn`t balance his own checkbook.
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    This is starting to get silly.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    SmagBoy: Clinton shutdown the government twice because he believed there were too many budget cuts, not that there were too few.

    Also. the reasons I cited for Obama are officially his policies, and the two biggest items, Obamacare and the so-called `stimulus` were rammed through under democrat majorities in congress.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    CJ, You need to read this because you have no clue as to what you`re talking about.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm
    Crakr: "Clinton shutdown the government twice because he believed there were too many budget cuts, not that there were too few." That is revisionist history, and pretty easily verified as a stretch at best (each side had their agendas, neither side bent on the issue, but, Clinton didn`t flinch any more than Gingrich did), but, okay, all good things that have ever happened in government are due to Republicans and God, and all bad things are due to Democrats and atheists. Got it. ;-)
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm
    The only country who wants to prove they elected an non - American president
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    @Smagboy1 We conservative folks don`t need to talk about "right wing" mistakes, the MSM does that 24/7!

    We all know what Bush II, Bush I or even Reagan did some things wrong, they weren`t perfect. However, they did more right than wrong, unlike the current Prez...
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    Sheriff Arapio is NOT a felon, Maricopa co. keeps re-electing him, 3 times now. The Obama Justice department has been harassing him for years and has found NOTHING, in fact what was found is that the Justice Department is NOT DOING IT`S JOB in identifying and deporting illegal immigrants.

    There is also a current DOJ investigation involving corruption of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and judicial officials that tried to unseat him.

    Apparently you`re just lapping up what his critics in the Phoenix New Times have reported. Btw, the Phoenix New Times, is owned by the extremely liberal Village Voice Media group. Their editor even divulged Sherrif Joe`s home address to target him for harassment at his home, a really d|ck move.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:38 pm
    SmagBoy: The only good thing Clinton did was reluctantly sign the budget after a large backlash for shutting down the government twice.

    It`s akin to praising a kid for good behavior after getting put in detention twice before.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:44 pm
    It gives me hope that no one on here is agreeing with the sheriff. This is beyond childish. It`s embarrassing that an elected official would behave this way. How does he keep his job?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:50 pm
    madest: Perhaps you should read your own link more thoroughly.

    In 1996, after constructing two welfare reform bills that Clinton vetoed, Gingrich and his supporters pushed for passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, which was intended to reconstruct the welfare system. The act gave state governments more autonomy over welfare delivery, while also reducing the federal government`s responsibilities. It instituted the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, which placed time limits on welfare assistance and replaced the longstanding Aid to Families with Dependent Children program.

    Gingrich`s tough stance on balancing the budget resulted int the first re-election of a republican majority since 1928.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    markust: Actually, it`s more about the fact that even if he wasn`t legitimate there is nothing that can be done about it now.

    We`d rather pick a fight we know we can win on and have undeniable evidence for.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Have we not already established that Sheriff Arpaio is batpoo insane? I thought that was a widely accepted fact.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    ok so even if it IS forged...his first term is done now...what are we going to do? elect of of the republicans?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:17 pm
    Hes the president... he probably wont get in again, let that be the end of that.
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    lyonartime Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    Why. Why should I care. Why should anyone care, at this point.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    @5Cats: FoxNEWS does that for the lefties, so, it`s all good there. ;-)

    As for "However, they did more right than wrong, unlike the current Prez...", I agree that Obama has done wrong, as all presidents do. It`s a matter of perspective, though, to insinuate that he`s done more wrong than right. As a Democrat, liberal atheist veteran, I have definite issues with the man, and I would say he`s done some wrong, for sure, but, he`s done plenty right. Bush II, Bush, Reagan, all did both good and bad, too. I`m actually a bigger fan of Bush the Elder than the other two on that list, but, we`ve already established that I`m a liberal. I think Clinton was the greatest president of the 20th Century, so... See? Opinion. ;-)

    Point is, I can plainly see that it`s a matter of perspective and that we can ague cherry-picked "facts" all night. I`m okay with just acknowledging that that you don`t like Obama. It`s cool. I`d vote for Paul if you guys`ll nom
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:26 pm
    -inate him. How`s that? :-)
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    "Hes the president... he probably wont get in again, let that be the end of that."

    are you serious? if he doesn`t get in again im getting the drat outta here...
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    Rumbrave Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm
    I lived in the great state of arizona for 25 years, and this guy is a drain on the county. He brags about how much he saves but cutting luxuries for prisoners, but the amount of money that goes out in lawsuits against him eats up every bit of that.

    His roundups are the worst though. Everyone frets this "impending police state" but fails to see a police force rolling into a given area and questioning everyone without cause as anything but that.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    SmagBoy1, you`re the most reasonable person on this post. I agree, people say President Obama is the worst president ever like it is fact when all it is is opinion. Same way it is my opinion that President GW Bush was the worst President in my lifetime. But that is just my opinion. There is no "Worst President Ever" because there are different ideologies.
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    smaus Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    I wish we could elect Clinton again...
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Obama isn`t the worst president ever, not the worst in our lifetime. He`s just not very good and a disappointment to America and to the world. The worst president in our lifetime was GWB, for reasons that are plainly obvious.
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    Shillier Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    i like how his tie clip is shaped like a pistol, real classy.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Someone had to have an investigation to determine that a goddam PDF was created digitally?
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    GParadox Female 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    Well, this makes us Arizonans look reasonable.

    I`m with you Cajun and Steelgrid. Abolish the ridiculous Native Born rule so these mothertruckers can shut up and find something relevant to complain about.
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    GParadox Female 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    @Markust: I sadly know many old, xenophobic folk who worship the sheriff. They all live in my town. The heat makes them crazy.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    I wish we could elect Clinton again...
    Sorry @smaus, but since Bill admitted to Felony perjury he`s no longer qualified to be President.
    He wasn`t too bad as President, (perjury aside) at least he knew how to compromise. Obama has never even TALKED to the Republicans!
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    5Cats

    are you Fing serious? I dont like Obama but come on he tried over and over to sit with repubs and talk with them but they would not.

    republicans are the party of NO.

    oh and why was it okay for John McCain to release only his short form birth cert. and everyone was fine with that

    BUUUTTTTTTT


    a black president does the same thing and then releases the full cert and still the racist aholes want to make an issue out of this.

    this officer is a registered republican...nuff said.

    this is nothing more than racism, plain and simple. no stfu...i know what you want to say but repeat after me

    john mchain was not bothered about being born outside the US once he released his short form...short form people

    but a black man is hounded for it...

    racism. racism. racism.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 1, 2012 at 9:35 pm
    CrakrJak

    right...this guy is totally clean and the big bad president is just picking on him...

    yep, as usual you sound totally logical and reasonable and it does not sound at all like you are pushing a near far right agenda.

    hey, I am not saying you are a neocon but I bet some of your best bigots...uh friends are...
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    March 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm
    5Cats: "Yes @Cyberdine, the same tents the US Army is currently using. Only the prisoners are 12 to a tent, not 16 like in the Army, iirc..."

    5Cats, you`re full of sh*t.

    I spent over 20 years in the United States Army (retired in 2009), and not once did I end up living in a tent with 15 other guys.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    5Cats why the hell are you even alive :| are you just a really badass troll or something?
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    jib Male 18-29
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    March 1, 2012 at 11:17 pm
    @jaime76
    Well to be fair, John Mcain was a war hero which is probably why he wasn`t hounded for birth info and stuff
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    @ CrakrJak - Gingrich? Fur Reelz?
    The guy who was kicked out of office for ethics violations and lieing to the ethics committee? The guy who cheated on 2 wives and is working on a third? The guy who wants to get rid of child labor laws, minimum wage, and medare/ssi ?

    Wow. I used to respect you . . .
    Oh well, Mitt will get the nomination. It`s a done deal. I bet the drag Bobby Jindal in for VP nominee. They need some color to get more votes.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    March 2, 2012 at 12:43 am
    I hate obama.. but this guy is just as much of a scumbag as HE is..
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 1:29 am
    typical christian republican-thief,liar and general scumbag.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 3:10 am
    jamie: he tried over and over to sit with repubs and talk with them

    Not true, The first time that was tried Obama dictated the terms and treated the republicans very badly. This president has an elitist smugness about him that won`t allow him to see any other side but his own.

    Gerry: Gingrich didn`t get `kicked out` and there was only 1 violation, multiple democrats since then have had multiple violations and didn`t have the decency to resign like Gingrich did.

    As far as his divorces, so what ?

    The guy who wants to get rid of child labor laws, minimum wage, and medare/ssi

    Not true on all counts. Allowing kids to learn the value of work is not a bad thing at all, you characterize it like he`s promoting a Dicken`s novel workhouse. Reforming SS and Medicare has to be done or it will no longer exist in 20 years, that`s not `getting rid` of it.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 2, 2012 at 3:20 am
    Reforming SS and Medicare has to be done or it will no longer exist in 20 years, that`s not `getting rid` of it.

    As a fiscal conservative I say those programs should be eliminated.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 3:27 am
    jamie: First off, I don`t have the power to `push` any agenda. Secondly Obama has fervently attacked anyone in power that deports illegal aliens outside of his direct control, through the INS.

    This president supports the racist Aztlan, La Raza, and MEChA groups in America, appointed a La Raza member, Sotomayor, for Supreme Court, and other federal judges connected to these groups.

    Obama has only done these things to keep the hispanic vote in his pocket. His actions have been about blatant pandering to his leftist pro-illegal alien base in the west.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 3:39 am
    Cajun: You`re dancing on the third rail of politics there bud, you`re free to have that opinion as a citizen.

    No politician in their right mind, if they wish to get elected or re-elected, will ask for more than reforms.

    Even I, as a fiscal conservative, wouldn`t advocate for elimination, even though the whole system was setup like a Ponzi scheme to begin with. It can and should be reformed, not eliminated.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 4:31 am
    This president has an elitist smugness about him that won`t allow him to see any other side but his own. ------------
    Republicans new line of thinking is anyone educated is an "elitist". They are dumb. They love dumb people and they want their dumb guy back...
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    andybme Male 50-59
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    March 2, 2012 at 4:41 am
    ha ha Orly Taitz probably had an orgasm on this one.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 4:44 am
    I think Obama`s proved to be a worthless bag of wind, but in a way I hope the GOP falls on its face as they won`t run the only candidate who is not a god-invoking retard. Hopefully when Obama`s re-elected and has less to lose, he`ll have the balls to pull out of Afghanistan. The big risk is he`ll still manage to bankrupt the country in the process.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:00 am
    Sigh. This again? Really?
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:01 am
    So a known racist whose entire department is under federal investigation for racism says something and republicans believe its true?

    And you STILL have people voting republican?
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:03 am
    @5cats I think you need to stop watching fox news. Obama has tried to talk to the republicans at every opportunity. However, they just walk around with their hands over their ears going "lalalala we cant hear you".
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:13 am
    It can and should be reformed, not eliminated.

    Why should I a 22-year-old and my generation be asked to pay for a well-to-do 65-plus-year-old`s retirement, when they could`ve just as easily built their own retirement accounts and lived off of that instead?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:27 am
    madest: Obama is in the Pocket of billionaire George Soros and other Alinsky socialists. They believe everyone that doesn`t believe as they do are peons to be ruled over. They wish to set up a new socialist aristocracy, destroy our current constitution and replace it with own of their own making.

    Today`s elitism is about power and wealth, not education, unless it is an education under their control and pontificating their ideology.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:51 am
    CJ, There`s only one republican candidate that`s running that`s not in the pocket of a billionaire and his name is Ron Paul. Haven`t heard you say anything nice about him. What was that saying about the speck in your brothers eye, without considering the plank in your own eye? You are not qualified to call someone an "elitist" because you are republican.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 2, 2012 at 5:52 am
    You know what CrakrJak I`m okay with phasing out OASDI, that way I stop getting screwed and you can get your money back.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 2, 2012 at 6:01 am
    @osirisacend: He`s using the same tents the US used in Iraq, the first Gulf War. idk about the numbers, that`s from my memory of the court case about it.
    John Mcain was a war hero which is probably why he wasn`t hounded for birth info and stuff
    Actually @jib he released ALL his documents voluntarily, as is required by the law. He still had to goto court since someone challenged his eligibility.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 6:06 am
    madest: You are not qualified to call someone an "elitist" because you are republican.

    You`re not qualified to say someone else isn`t qualified to say anything.

    You`ve railed against censorship, but are far far to willing to censor those you don`t agree with, that`s about the height of hypocrisy and acting like an elitist.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 6:11 am
    Oh yes I am. I am liberal and researchers have determined that liberals are smarter and not near as racist as their right wing counterparts. Read it and weep.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 2, 2012 at 6:23 am

    Crakr, Crakr, Crakr...where do I start?

    "This president has an elitist smugness about him that won`t allow him to see any other side but his own." "Elitest Smugness" turns you off and yet you like Gingrich? WTF! Consistancy man, you`re messin wit ma hed!

    "Gingrich didn`t get `kicked out` and there was only 1 violation, multiple democrats since then have had multiple violations and didn`t have the decency to resign like Gingrich did" Only one investigation, multiple violations. But you`re right, he didn`t get kicked out...he was forced to resign. The differance can only matter to him. As for those Dems...I`m not voting for them either! And his personal only matters because he runs on "More-Moral-Than-You" platform.

    To Be Continued . . .
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 2, 2012 at 6:26 am

    Crakr, Crakr, Crakr....continued

    "you characterize it like he`s promoting a Dicken`s novel workhouse." Exactly what I believe his goal to be. Remember his Contract With America included taking children away from Welfare mothers and letting the state raise them. So much for "family values".

    "Reforming SS and Medicare has to be done or it will no longer exist in 20 years" He`s talked of getting rid of it, not "reforming it". Why not, he`s a smug elitist who has a ton of cash so his retirement isn`t in doubt.

    I`d also add his Contract with America stated congress will not get any benefits average citizens don`t. But he enjoys free, universal healthcare for life, plus full retirement for a few years work. What a scam artist. Now he`d add the Presidential perks to his Golden Umberella?
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
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    March 2, 2012 at 6:57 am
    Madest...you sound very elitist in what you said and I am a liberal.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36668 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 6:58 am

    @ madest - that looks more like liberals wanted a survey to say what they wanted it to. Conservative does not equal stupid. Being "Open Minded" about something could be interpreted as "Too stupid to make a decision".
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    March 2, 2012 at 7:01 am
    Madest

    Research by dumb "liberals", maybe.

    Reality, of course, shows that socialists (misnamed liberal in the the US, despite their illiberal politics) are more likely to be racist and while more likely to be intellectual that does not mean they speak any sense. Intellect has been described as intelligence minus judgement.

    The KKK was set up by Democrats. Democrats opposed civil rights legislation. Senator Byrd was a Democrat Senator until he died. Liberal media accuse Tea Parties of being racist, hiding the fact that the picture is of a black man; the real racists in OWS are ignored. They call black conservatives and libertarians "uncle Tom". La Raza (it means "The Race", for Christ`s sake) is a left-wing organisation. The Nazis were socialists. The Communists were racist. The UK BNP is a socialist organisation, as is the French FN. Al Sharpton is a socialist racist. Barack Obama is a racist socialist. Affirmative action is &quo
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 7:10 am
    I didn`t make the study and that article isn`t the first. This is a new discovery and it`s being ignored by the "elite" media. I knew republicans would object. I am surprised at liberal objections to something they`ve known for years.

    @randomxp, If you were American you`d know that the parties essentially switched positions during the civil rights struggle.
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    kitkate88 Female 18-29
    22 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 7:18 am
    Oh for F***`s sake, get the F*** out of my state!
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 8:14 am
    They believe everyone that doesn`t believe as they do are peons to be ruled over. They wish to set up a new socialist aristocracy

    What exactly is a socialist aristocracy CJ? Bit of an oxymoron really, the whole point of socialism being that there ISN`T a group of privileged elite who run things.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
    809 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Will these drating birthers just shut the drat up! drating morons.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7560 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Can someone please explain to our US friends the meaning of socialism, liberalism, communism and all these other labels? They do have probelms understanding them....
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    Muert Male 30-39
    153 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 8:27 am
    ...he released ALL his documents voluntarily, as is required by the law. He still had to goto court since someone challenged his eligibility.

    Wait wait... voluntary release is required by law? Somehow being legally bound to do something does not seem voluntary. Or maybe I forgot what voluntary means.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 2, 2012 at 8:38 am
    Indeed the weak minded are convinced that national healthcare equals socialism and the irony is many of the people objecting receive medicare. Right CJ?
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    sssfdg Male 18-29
    190 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 9:23 am
    my god... morons. This investigation in itself had one purpose... to proove it was a fake. It`s biased in it`s very nature... much like Fox News.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 11:04 am
    Bob: the whole point of socialism being that there ISN`T a group of privileged elite who run things.

    Not this current group, They believe they are above the law, that it shouldn`t apply to them, they know better and everyone else should live under cradle to grave socialism.

    That`s what I mean by a socialist aristocracy. You can call it Feudalism 2.0 if you like, it`s pretty much the same thing.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 11:09 am
    madest: You are good example of an elitist you believe that no republican is smarter than you, that conservatives are `weak minded`.

    And you dare call me bigoted ? Once again, pluck that 2x4 out of your own eye first.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
    506 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 11:51 am
    @Draculya, I too am very interested in seeing what Obama can accomplish when he no longer has to worry about getting re-elected.

    Might actually do more of the things that he said he would to get elected in the first place.

    Right now, I`d vote for literally any candidate who`d make reforming the influence of money and special-interests influence in our political system. Literally any damn candidate. Worship the devil and eat babies, but want to vote for an ammendment to limit campaign contributions and enforce transparency for lobbyists and PACs...got my vote.

    Until we can get our government working towars governing for us, the citizens, rather than spending the majority of their time fund-raising, campaigning, and pandering to special-interests and lobbyists...the whole system is fundamentally broken.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    wow... poeple get so side tracked
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    "Too stupid to make a decision".


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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32813 posts
    March 2, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    Wait wait... voluntary release is required by law? Somehow being legally bound to do something does not seem voluntary.
    It means @Muart, that he complied with the law voluntarily. He went to court because someone challenged his status. Obama simply refused to release ANY of his documents, and has many tied up with court orders (like his University papers and grades, eh?).
    McCain: followed the law
    Obama: broke the law.
    Plain and simple. Now saying the rules should change AFTER you break them is... very liberal.
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    another_guy Male 30-39
    8 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 4:22 am
    you know ppl are full of poo when they say that "The investigators were Volunteers".
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    Ontario Male 18-29
    229 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    In Canada we have Sikhs in parliament wearing turbans. We don`t give a flying drat if they were prime minister, we`d just use it as a stupid advantage to make us look more multicultural.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    "Shut up," they explained.

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