Apparently Chanting `USA` In The USA Is Now Racist

Submitted by: OpsAss13 4 years ago
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/03/racism-or-patriotism-hs-apologizes-for-fans-chanting-usa-alamo-heights-edison-high-san-antonio-texas-andrew-brewer-gil-garza-kevin-brown/1#.T1lb4jFv_pA

What the hell is this country coming to?
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Male 3,631
Guess they should have chanted "Remember the Alamo," eh? That would have sparked some shared regional patriotism.
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Male 506
Context ya pricks. You can shout "Fire" all you want on the sidewalk, but do it in a crowded theater and it`s no longer cool.

Chanting "USA" at a sporting event where the other team is predominately Mexican is racist. There`s no other reason to chant that at a high-school basketball game in San Antonio.

I`m Texas-born, but the state continues to embarrass me occasionally.
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Male 519
The world has gone soft nowadays. People will get offended at anything. This reminds me of the story about a high school football game where students from the school that won held up a sign that said "You Mad Bro?" after the game, and the losing school cried racism.
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Male 140
...it`s more embarrassing for the chanters, it`s seen in Europe as naive jingoism, much like other unquestioning regimes around the world, also a little corny.
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Male 3,631
Raza Razzberry!
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Male 23
USA! USA!
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Male 4,594
Texas. What a fu*king sorry-ass excuse for a state. Nothing but longhorns and homos if you ask me... and a long history of stupid too.
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Male 52
Chanting "USA" is not equivalent to Mexican-Americans chanting "Viva Mexico" or "Viva la Razza." I`ll admit it seems strange to me to chant about a foreign country, but at the same time nearly every immigrant influx in America has had a transitional period where people were still proud of their old country while becoming assimilated Americans. This includes the Irish, Italians, Germans, etc. It is really just a way of showing pride in one`s heritage. An American taking pride in their heritage is not the equivalent to a bunch of other americans implying you`re not a true American because you came from somewhere else (or your parents did).
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Male 5,811
I suppose it would depend on their intent. However, "USA, USA!" is a pretty crummy racial slur.
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Male 3,576
what do you mean "Is Now Racist" it always has been
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Female 2,525
I wasn`t aware that USA was a race.
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Male 14,330
Ever see how often Mexicans raise the Mexican flag and chant "viva la Raza" even when US citizens ya we`re racist though......

TACOS!! TACOS!! TACOS!!! CHIIIIIMICANGAS!!!!!

Get the f**k over it!
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Male 3,631
I`m sure if the opposing team engaged in a chant of "viva Mexico" or even better, "viva la Raza" it would be lauded as a step toward more progressive cultural inclusion and tolerance. This is the type of sensationalism that stretches every white person`s apathy regarding the constantly shifting definition of racism further and further toward the breaking point - keep it coming.
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Male 3,631
It`s not "apparent," mr news anchor - it`s ALLEGED - like when that black guy `allegedly` shoots the court judge on camera? Yeah, THAT`S apparent.

"Disturbing" incident? Your 3 cherry-picked student interviewees expressing their having been shocked an appalled - that was disturbing.
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Male 916
`s not racist.

just stupid.
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Female 375
Drawman, it was only a couple of years ago that we had the last world cup and everyone but their grandma had england flags on their houses, cars, clothes, everywhere. A fair few people in my area also have the union jack in their gardens.
TLDR- You`re talking pants.
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Male 37,888

[quote]"Racist noun `ray sist 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal. 2. See 1" [/quote]
Good one OldOllie!!!
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Male 7,775
Welcome to our world. It`s been like that for a few years in England. A foreigner flies their flag, they`re patriotic. We are BARRED from flying ours by local government in case we offend those we have welcomed to live here.
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Male 74
@OpsAss13 Youʻre an idiot. Chanting "USA" is fine. Implying that the Americans youʻre playing against arenʻt Americans because theyʻre not white is racist. Stop making conservatives look stupid.
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Female 2,674
OldOllie
Proper Noun
Someone who is obviously stupid and a hypocrite.

See, I can do it too. ^-^
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Male 15,832
[quote]Because I recognize Glenn Beck`s racist tendencies? Mkay[/quote]
From the liberal dictionary:

Racist noun `ray sist 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal. 2. See 1.
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Male 1,678
In general the chant is fine, immensely retarded, but not offensive. Normally its no different from Irish people singing "The Fields of Athenrye" or the English chanting "Rule Britannia" at a football match. In this case, however, it was clearly racist. Both teams were American so they were clearly chanting for one race against another, not for one country against another. If you can`t see that then you should be living in a thoroughly padded room for your own safety.
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Male 1,444
Pretty <bleeping> pathetic when you are allowed to be more proud of being a foreigner in the US then being an American citizen!
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Female 2,674
@hurr durr lemming

Because I recognize Glenn Beck`s racist tendencies? Mkay
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Male 1,008
""Heard about this on Glen Beck"
It`s not surprising that you`d think this is fine."

spoken like a true lemming
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Female 2,674
"Heard about this on Glen Beck"
It`s not surprising that you`d think this is fine.
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Male 246
Well, I do think the chant was used in poor taste, that being said, I think it`s a chant that is very....enchanting....@Kain1 The USA chant is a kick ass chant and it really gets our spirits up...I don`t know what country you live in over there in Europe, but I don`t hear a chant for your country...if you did, I`m sure you would love it as much as we love our USA chant, and I would be ok with you using it. So don`t insult our country and our chant you ethnocentric bastard.
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Male 1,471
Although i think the whole USA! chant is an incredibly stupid concept, it`s not racist. People need to stop being overly sensitive..
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Male 2,737
Heard about this on Glen Beck. F that. USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!
Sue me.
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Male 7,123
It only makes sense to chant a national slogan at an international game. So the clear implication here is that one team are not `real` Americans.
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Male 55
If you don`t see why this is racist (and it clearly is), you are an idiot.
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Male 500
US of A!! US of A!! now its not racist
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Male 4,283
Non-story is a non-story
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Male 835
Nationalism = racism? Huh?
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Male 412
neosophist: "I understand why it was offensive. You see, in Texas, they consider themselves to be their own separate country, so by chanting USA, they were really denouncing everyones heritage and not showing loyalty to texas above all else."

Umm... no. I`ve lived in Texas for around 17 years, and NO ONE I have ever encountered in this state feels this way.

Regarding the article: This is just idiotic - on both sides. Those chanting "USA"... why? And, how is chanting "USA" racist?

Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

Hmm... chanting "USA" may be stupid, but it`s not racism.
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Male 15,832
[quote]What the hell is this country coming to? [/quote]
Liberalism. Any more stupid questions?
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Male 17,512
osirisascend: I really don`t need to respond, since Gerry already said it.

So I`ll just say, "USA USA USA"
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Male 3,057
That`s from the friggin` FACEBOOK PAGE of one of the players on the team whose fans were doing the chanting, and you post that like it`s some sort of proof?

OpsAss... you are SO trolling with this stupid submission.

You linked to a FACEBOOK PAGE???

As PROOF????

*falls to ground laughing hysterically*
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Male 12,365
[quote]Question... Why is it hysterics with a Y but histrionic with an I ?[/quote]

Now you`ve got me asking myself that question. I suspect it`s a matter of different etymologies for words that only coincidentally sound alike. I know the etymology of `hysteria` - it`s named after a womb, which was thought to cause hysteria. `histrionic`...the only possible root I can think of off the top of my head is the Latin word `historia`, a truthful accounting of events, but that doesn`t fit. I`ll have to look it up...

...it comes from Latin, but not `historia`. The root is `histrionicus`, things pertaining to an actor.
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Male 138
I understand why it was offensive. You see, in Texas, they consider themselves to be their own separate country, so by chanting USA, they were really denouncing everyones heritage and not showing loyalty to texas above all else.
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Male 2,424
@lillian so what you are saying, is that there needs to be a "speech police" that decide when you can, or cannot chant USA?

Okaaay... I thought they were all American?
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Male 514
@lillian, Hi-haole is right. The members of this school are regularly called "Alamo Whites." Tell me why it is okay to be racist against whites but if whites say anything remotely close to anything that can be construed as racism, then we are crucified.
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Female 2,674
HI-haole, there isn`t any video proof that that actually happened, and it doesn`t excuse the USA chants either.
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Male 636
Uhhhh... It does say that the Edison students were chanting "Alamo Whites"

But none of you guys mention this..

And the news and the superintendent don`t see that part as being a big deal...

Wtf?
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Male 86
Is I-am-bored now in the hand of nincompoops? What is all that crap that is being posted lately?
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Male 1,129
Im brown and id be chanting USA right with them. stupid wetbacks dont like it leave. thats my opinion. Im not mexican Im american this doesnt bother me at all
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Male 1,008
an article i read said some of the kids chanting were hispanic so maybe it was more of "nanana you`re an illegal and we`re not"? just feeding the fire here
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Male 3,842
[quote]Was chanting USA after the "Miracle on Ice" considered racist?[/quote]

That was a match of the United States against a different country (the Soviet Union). It is OK to say it if the entire United States is playing against a different country. It is racist if white Americans are playing against Americans of a different race.
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Male 3,842
It is racist. They were chanting "USA" in support of White Americans over Hispanic Americans. As if "USA" represents White people but not Brown people.


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Male 646
So IAB is supporting racists now? I guess it goes hand in hand with their pro Ron Paul outlook.
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Male 10,845
Was chanting USA after the "Miracle on Ice" considered racist?
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Female 2,674
Arcval - The kids chanting USA weren`t being nationalists because it was directed toward other USA citizens. They were the ones acting like people of another race cannot be US citizens, not the school board.
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Male 303
Chanting "USA" (or the name of any other country for that matter) is nationalist not racist, unless you are of the opinion that members of certain race/s cannot be citizens of that country.

Hence the school board is racist as they do not believe than non-white students are or can be american.
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Male 25,416
really... well apparently stating usa is racist. is racist :P
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Male 3,057
OpsAss13 is race-baiting and trolling.

Those of you who don`t understand why the chant was inappropriate in this instance are showing us that you`re either less than intelligent, or that you`re lacking critical thinking skills.

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Male 2,422
Chanting USA is appropriate when used against those filthy frog eating Frenchmen but not against other Americans. That`s drating stupid.
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Female 2,674
@Ops - Even if that`s the case, the other school was still in the room, and they were chanting it at them. I`ve never heard anyone chant USA to a team that`s also in the USA. They`re either incredibly stupid and think the other team is not from the USA, or they were implying that the other time does not represent the USA because it`s filled with minorities instead of white people.
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Male 514
@lillian, it was not directed at the other team. They were in the locker room when said team was chanting.
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Male 514
Sorry but chanting the name of the country you live in is not racist. Chanting taco bender, wetback, spic, gook, zipperhead, spade, nignug, jigaboo, cracker, honky, etc... Those are racist.
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Female 2,674
"Um, you cant chant USA in USA?"

You can chant it all you want, but there`s something really off (most likely race motivated in this case) when you`re chanting it against other USA citizens.
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Male 514
@jtrebowski, I am a master race baiter.

@yusuksomuch, living in the SW, I agree whole heartidly.

@Gerry, thank you.

@thatjimguy, Shut up (thatjimguy has not added any links)

@banur, happens all the time in the city I live in.

@Osiris, true, I did submit it yesterday. *claps*
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Male 2,424
Um, you cant chant USA in USA? Hmm... here goes draters.

USA USA USA!

Alright I`m ready to be taken away in shackles.

How can anyone think they should have to apologize?????

@Gerry1of1 - you say it like this , "huffingtono posto"
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Male 508
Reductio Ad Absurdum - the term used when you leave out WHY they were chanting usa.
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Male 37,888

Latino`s chanting "Viva la raza" {Long live the race or "Mexican Power"} isn`t racist but chanting "USA" is ?

How do you say "hypocrite" in spanish?
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Male 3,057
CrakrJak arriving with right wing justification in 3... 2... 1...
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Male 3,057
Who the hell was the idiot mod that approved this?

Dear God... the coach of the winning teams actions to stop the chant speaks volumes.

This is LITERALLY yesterday`s news.
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Male 1,832
Well when white people use it as an insult to hispanics, its a little racist.

That being said, USA! USA! USA!
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Male 250
"yes it was meant as a jab, but quit crying, the shoe has been on the other foot just as much, especially here in the south west"

I just imagined a winning hyspanic team yelling "Mexico! Mexico! ARRIBA!". Made me laugh.
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Male 96
I don`t think they should have apologized.
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Male 3,364
OopsAss13=race baiter.
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Male 473
It`s all about context. And obviously this I.a.B post took it out of context.
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Male 3,364
The opposing team was from the USA too. Why would they chant that at them unless the were trying to claim that they were more American because they`re white.
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Male 250
Sounds fishy. What`s point when both teams are from the US and A?
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Male 459
Hey Mods.....another misleading post.

Can we start flagging these posts?
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Male 37,888

[quote]"Some saw it as ..." [/quote]Meaning they are making a big deal out of nothing.
You could see almost anything "as" an insult of some kind if you choose to load it up with your own drama.

I would not apologize for their dramatic histrionics.






Question... Why is it hysterics with a Y but histrionic with an I ? hmmmmm
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Male 1,008
yes it was meant as a jab, but quit crying, the shoe has been on the other foot just as much, especially here in the south west
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Male 3,894
This post was so completely misrepresented that it makes me embarrassed on the poster`s behalf.

Bad. Stop that.
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Male 14,773
Was replying to OP not Lillian
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Male 14,773
No, it just makes you look dumb.
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Female 2,674
Why the drat would they be chanting USA if they weren`t trying to imply that the other team wasn`t from the USA?
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Male 514
Link: Apparently Chanting `USA` In The USA Is Now Racist [Rate Link] - What the hell is this country coming to?
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