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Date: 03/03/12 09:50 AM

105 Responses to America: Still Totally Proud Of Our Wars [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of eugenius
    eugenius Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 9:51 am
    Link: America: Still Totally Proud Of Our Wars - USA! USA! USA!
  2. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2012 at 9:57 am
    Better than Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 9:59 am
    And cue the Europeans talking sh*t
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:00 am

    We only won because we could carpet bomb civilians back then. But since Korea and Vietnam, people got this idea you can`t have civilian casualties. I`m not sure what they think war is but it is not a civilized game with nice, pretty rules.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:02 am
    @Draculya, aside from Vietnam, your country was right there with us, so keep talking.
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:02 am
    And what was the point of posting this? Apart from the obvious intention by some mods alt account to start an argument on here again?
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4017 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 10:06 am
    Ok, now that is a cool hat.
  8. Profile photo of Rawrbot
    Rawrbot Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:07 am
    This makes me sad. What about all the other wars? Could someone point out the clear winners of those conflicts please?
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    smaus Male 30-39
    715 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 10:14 am
    This hat`ll go great with my beer, while Ima watchin da Nascars
  10. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 10:14 am
    Oh dear.
  11. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32805 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Should say Three world wars if you count the "Cold War", eh?
    AS for the other two:
    WW1: joined in the 9th inning with our team ahead 7-5, claimed to win the who game by themselves.
    WW2: joined in the 4th inning with our team behind 1-5, actually did the bulk of the fighting (although Russia might argue about that)

    Now CANADA: We could wear that hat (with a Maple Leaf on it) since, you know, we actually fought through both wars from the start...
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:16 am
    *Generic comment about Muricuh only coming in to each war when they had to.*

    Yeah. I went there.

    *Sits back and waits...*
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:23 am
    I want that hat
  14. Profile photo of tedgp
    tedgp Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:24 am
    gerry. You dont seem to understand things here. The reason they say no civilian casualties, is because the USA delibratley murdered and injured close to 1 million people with the atomic bomb in WW2.

    To date the USA is the only country that is guilty of such an atrocity. if civilian casualties were "allowed", then pretty much every side would just blanket bomb each other while the politicians that caused the problem in the first place, sit thousands of miles away in a bunker, safe and sound, ready to do it again if needs be.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:40 am
    ok, thats awesome
  16. Profile photo of whodat6484
    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:43 am
    The Germans were the first to target "civilian towns and cities" in 1939 prior to invading Poland.

    In a way, dropping the "bomb" may have saved more lives than if Japan was invaded. That`s both American lives and Japanese lives. Remember Saipan? Hirohito sent out an Imperial Order in June 1944 encouraging the civilians of Saipan to commit suicide fearing that when they saw how well we treated them it would turn them against him. Imagine if that had happened on mainland Japan.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:48 am
    mater of opinion
  18. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:57 am
    5Cats: That`s because America was isolationist and tried to stay neutral for both wars. Now we take diplomacy much more seriously. Because of our strength everyone thinks we are the big bully, but when injustices go unabated, who does the world call on for help ?

    Btw, I believe we should be stomping Assad`s ass right now but if we do, we`ll be called imperialist pigs and international law breakers for our efforts.
  19. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 11:03 am
    tedgp: Japan was prepared to fight to the last man, woman and child. Millions more would`ve been killed had we not dropped the bombs. They brought a swift end to the war with a lot less bloodshed than a full invasion of Japan.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32805 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 11:07 am
    @Whodat: Um, you`re right but you`re wrong.
    The Atom Bombs DID save millions of lives, the death toll for invading the Japanese home islands would easily have been 500K Americans, 4 million Japanese soldiers AND 8 million civilians. Easily.

    However the Emporer did NOT tell his people to commit suicide, they did so on their own. And rightfully so, since American troops regularly raped and killed civilian prisoners, and shot wounded Japanese soldiers rather than help them.

    Plenty of atrocities committed by all sides. Mostly by Germany and Japan though.

    vv True enough @Crackr, without America in WW2 we would have lost, no doubt about that! Everyone accepts America`s help, but rarely are they nice about it.
  21. Profile photo of tedgp
    tedgp Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 11:13 am
    Keep believing that crackr. History says different.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 11:15 am
    "Japan was prepared to fight to the last man, woman and child. Millions more would`ve been killed had we not dropped the bombs. They brought a swift end to the war with a lot less bloodshed than a full invasion of Japan. "

    Except that we bombed civilians. It was disgusting. it was deplorable, and I totally agree that it was a war crime....
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 11:41 am
    I remember seeing a joke "League Table" in a magazine one time. It was a bunch of countries and their success in wars over the centuries. You know, total number of games played, wins, draws, and losses, that kinda thing. And languishing at the bottom of the table with something like "Played 14, 1 win, 1 draw, 12 losses", can you guess who?

    Italy. Was much fun.
  24. Profile photo of paddy215
    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 11:47 am
    The USA`s attitude to war in the last 100 years can basically be summed up like this:

    USA tries to stay neutral = good guys who don`t want a fight
    Anyone else tries to stay neutral = cowards who don`t want a fight

    USA murders countless civilians = necessary
    Anyone else murders countless civilians = War crime.

    Not to be on a moral high horse here, almost every, if not every country in the world has committed horrible atrocities at one point or another throughout history, but most of us have the sense to see its wrong. It sickens me that there are people here who can defend Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was deliberate mass murder and justifying it is pathetic. The fact is you were terrified of Japan and sunk to the lowest possible method to beat a stronger nation. You`re against Iran having nuclear facilities incase they`re as scummy as you.
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 11:47 am
    I want to get involved in this but its ajust a hat.

    FTR it somewhat reminds of the idiot on every sports team that seems to think he won the game alone.
  26. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 11:48 am
    Operation Downfall

    Educate yourself @tedgp, it`s not long and packed with information.

    Note: the US expected 6 divisions of Japanese troops, when in fact at least 14 were ready to defend the southern island.
    They expected 2,500 combat aircraft, while the Japanese had nearly 10,000 ready.
    It would have been a bloodbath for both sides, the Atom Bombs prevented it.
  27. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32805 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 11:52 am
    vv I see @paddy215 needs edumication also...

    That sounds like a funny article @Davymid! Hope you can find it for IAB, eh?
    Italy`s 1 win? WW1? Or Albania? lolz! I think Ethiopia would count as their draw...
  28. Profile photo of paddy215
    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 11:58 am
    @5cats I`ve seen your posts, if you disagree with me, it more than likely means I`m right.
  29. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    @xCYBERDYNEx, in body, but not in spirit, there`s the shame in it all. We only send our boys to die so we can sell you more arms. Almost nobody in the UK wants to back you in your wars.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    It would have been a bloodbath for both sides, the Atom Bombs prevented it.
    ... and instead caused two different bloodbaths.

    I don`t think nuking centers of population was necessary. The Japaneese would have gotten the message if the US nuked their fleet or some other military target.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    @5cats I`ve seen your posts, if you disagree with me, it more than likely means I`m right.
    Yeah... that`s a pretty safe bet with 5cats.
  32. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    Even your own allies hate you and your wars. You know, it wouldn`t surprise me if the brits start giving you a bit of blue on blue soon. It`ll make a break from all your muslim occupied nations ("new allies") slaughtering your troops.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    win
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    Chicago Cubs: World Champs 1908!
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    OutWest Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    LOL....

    I guess we should feel ashamed? We are Americans, therefore of evil intent?
  36. Profile photo of Solvent
    Solvent Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    AMERICA drat YEAH SUCK IT FRANCE
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    Ontario Male 18-29
    229 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    I`m unamerican and dratING LOVE this hat xD
  38. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    if the US nuked their fleet or some other military target.
    Except they had no more fleet by that time, perhaps 5-6 large ships left. The US had bombed the snot out of EVERY military target they could find already, what was left was spread out to prevent such bombings from being effective.
    The only "easy to hit" targets left were large cities, they chose two that hadn`t been bombed too much yet in order to observe how effective the A-Bombs were.
    Yeah... that`s a pretty safe bet with 5cats.
    He says... without even looking at the link.
    *sigh*
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    stumpen Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    wasn´t it the russians that actually won the second war
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    March 3, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    @5Cats I am right about that and you`re a f*cking retard! American troops did not rape or kill civilians, let`s see some proof, not propaganda. The Japanese military only told the civilians American troops did that. As far as killing wounded Japanese soldiers instead of helping them, that is true. Would you like to know why?! Because wounded Japanese soldiers would either play dead and wait for the Marines to pass them and then shoot the Marines in the back or the Marines would try to help a wounded Japanese soldier who would then set off a concealed grenade killing themselves along with the Marines trying to help. Do your homework.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    @stumpen - sure they helped, but they also helped start the war. WW2 in Europe began when Germany invaded Poland. Shortly afterwards, another country invaded Poland as well.....Russia.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    @Viking864 - That`s true! Russia also invaded Romania, Lituania, Estonia, Latvia AND Finland too.
    Funny, that Britian and France didn`t declair war on the USSR eh? Almost as if they had other reasons for going to war with Germany...

    @Whodat: Did you even LOOK at the link? Here`s another link:
    Other Losses
  43. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    5Cats: That book was so inaccurate, so false that it`s considered rubbish by historians. There was a huge food shortage in Germany and France that even many civilians starved. The Nazis had destroyed so much of the infrastructure that distribution was a nightmare. When food did come, it went to feed civilians, for the most part.

    If you are wondering where the tents and medical supplies went, they went to Buchenwald, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau and hundreds and hundreds of other concentration camps too try and save as many former prisoners as they could.
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    eovogt Male 18-29
    197 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    Russia > America @ killing people for no reason but nice try
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    MZsweetpeach Female 18-29
    34 posts
    March 3, 2012 at 7:49 pm
    We the best.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    I dislike this country -.-
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    vodooshaman Male 70 & Over
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    March 3, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    russia won the cold war too.
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    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    *facepalm*
  49. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    russia won the cold war too.
    LOLZ! That`s a funny one @voodooshaman!

    @Crackr: I`ve read other books printed before "Other Losses" that describe the exact same thing. These were men who were actually there, and had no `agenda` other than to tell the story of their war-time experiences. Plus it was the Frence who were mostly responsible, nasty bastards that they are...

    Far worse is what Stalin did to the German POWs. And indeed, he also mass-murdered Russian POWs (who`d been captured by the Nazis) too.

    War is bad, no doubt about it!
  50. Profile photo of Linkenberger
    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    March 3, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    Wait, the ALLIES were ALL back-to-back war champs...

    CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA!
  51. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm
    vv Darn tootin there @Linkenberger!
    CA-NA-DA!
    Great Bri-Tan!
    (not France they gave up in WW2)
    (Not Russia they gave up in WW1)
    Au-Stra-Li-A!
    South Af-Ri-Ca!
    (I know I`m forgetting a bunch, sry!)
  52. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 3, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @ tedgp - The A bomb was not murder, it was just part of war. We destroyed Berlin also, just more slowly. And it`s not and "atrocity" and no one in the US is gonna apologize for using it. No, we don`t want to use another one, ever. No one I know anyway, but that doesn`t change the correctness of the action at the time.
  53. Profile photo of paddy215
    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 12:58 am
    We can only hope and pray that what some of the posters here are typing isn`t actually what they teach in North American schools.

    "The A bomb was not murder, it was just part of war."

    So deliberately killing innocent civilians isn`t murder? Stick to the "13 year old girl" style comments you normally write. If you think the A bomb was the correct action you are insanely stupid.
  54. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 2:44 am
    Soooo, Gerry, if we drop a nuke or seventy on Buenos Aires for their aggression over the Falklands, that will be all fine and dandy?

    If North Korea decides that Christmas lights shone across the border constitute a cessation of the ceasefire and drop a dirty bomb on the Bay Area, you`re cool with that?

    If Iran vapourises Tel Aviv in response to an air strike, that`s kosher?
  55. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 4, 2012 at 3:59 am
    "
    @ tedgp - The A bomb was not murder, it was just part of war. We destroyed Berlin also, just more slowly. And it`s not and "atrocity" and no one in the US is gonna apologize for using it. No, we don`t want to use another one, ever. No one I know anyway, but that doesn`t change the correctness of the action at the time."

    Blanket bombing of civilian targets in WWII indeed constituted an atrocity and a war crime. The allied leaders would have been hung for it had they lost the war, as McNamara wrote in his autobiography.
  56. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 4:12 am
    I have come to regret my ever having been proud of our winning of any war. That doesn`t mean I`m not proud of our lads, or my country`s winning, but it leaves me with a bitter after taste in my mouth after saying so.

    "War is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Hari Seldon (Asimov, Foundation) We should not have been fighting in the first place. That includes WWI and WWII. War is not inevitable. There is no god on anyone`s side. It`s just killing and destruction instead of diplomacy.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    March 4, 2012 at 4:22 am
    @Solvent "AMERICA drat YEAH SUCK IT FRANCE"

    That made me laugh.

    Ironically of course.

    If it weren`t for the cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys you`d not have won your independence.
  58. Profile photo of gary8162
    gary8162 Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 5:30 am
    @ Paddy & Draculya
    No, dropping the A-bomb on civilians was not murder. It was a consequence of war. Remember, Japan attacked us first and, without knowing it, wiped out three fourths of our navy in one fell swoop. What do you think would`ve happened if Japan or Germany won the war? Both countries were looking to expand outward and rule the world. If Germany hadn`t already surrendered, they would`ve been next.
    Given Japan`s motives, dropping the bomb was the correct course of action.
    @ Buiadh
    If France hadn`t recognized the United States as an independant country, we still would`ve won our independance. All it takes is for one country, any country, to recoginize them.
  59. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 4, 2012 at 6:01 am

    Thank you Draculya, for putting words in my mouth. If you can`t make a sound, reasonable arguement, just riducule the other guy. You should be in politics.

    No, as I said we don`t want to bomb anyone else so Buenos Aires is safe. And no, the WWII leadership would not have been tried for war crimes if they lost. Those were the rules of engagement up to that time. Hitler`s crowd weren`t tried for bombing the enemy, they were tried for genocide.

    Nope, not gonna apologize or feel bad for the US using The Bomb. But I`m not blood thirsty, hope we never have to again.
  60. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 4, 2012 at 6:36 am
    It`s American attitudes towards war and its evil foreign policies that make even its staunchest allies hate them. Trust me when I tell you that your allies are not rooting you Team America even when we send our boys to die alongside yours.

    I decry and regret all violence, including the tragic events of 911, yet I cannot put from mind that it doesn`t put much of a dent in your karmic debt.
  61. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 6:59 am
    Gotta love how these screwed up revisionist historians have vilified America as being evil.

    The fact is that America not only ended WWII more quickly, we rebuilt europe & japan, we built the UN to settle disputes and supported their economies while buying their goods and loaning them money at little to no interest.

    Now that`s really evil and scary isn`t it ?

    With all this vitriol aimed at America these days, I can understand why isolationism is gaining popularity again. Perhaps the next time your countries nuts are in a vise and you`re crying for our help, perhaps we`ll become deaf to your pleas.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 7:49 am
    @CrakrJak "Perhaps the next time your countries nuts are in a vise and you`re crying for our help, perhaps we`ll become deaf to your pleas. "

    When was the last time the US joined a war to help another country? I honestly cannot think of one single instance.
  63. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 4, 2012 at 8:27 am
    @ Crakr you were going to come in guns ablazing to defend us from Argentina like last time? Whatever. Keep on serving your self interests and we`ll drag you into the war if we need you, employing deception or withheld information if needs be, just like WWI and WWII.

    Till ithen, let`s hope the politicians stave off a war. I hold out hope; post-empire Britain doesn`t get into unnecessary fights except to do the minimum to stay in your preferred vendor club.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 8:39 am
    @CrakrJak
    How about the next time your nuts are in a vise along with those everybody else you don`t ignore it for a few years?
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 8:44 am
    "@ Buiadh
    If France hadn`t recognized the United States as an independant country, we still would`ve won our independance. All it takes is for one country, any country, to recoginize them."

    huh???
    So you`re saying the American Revolutionary War was just an advertising campaign to get somebody to sign off on you being independent? Wtf?

    The French, Spanish and the Dutch gave you weapons and ammunition and joined the war on your side. Without them you were out manned, outgunned, and screwed.
  66. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 9:19 am
    @I-IS-BORED should have left the traitors to British mercy.
  67. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Buiadh: I`m guessing you never heard of the first gulf war, We freed Kuwait from Saddam Hussein.

    I-IS-BORED: Why don`t you get the queen off you currency and become a real independent nation, ya loyalist goofs.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 10:06 am
    @CrakrJak "I`m guessing you never heard of the first gulf war, We freed Kuwait from Saddam Hussein. "

    LOL You did it for oil and nothing else.

    "Why don`t you get the queen off you currency and become a real independent nation, ya loyalist goofs. "

    You`ve lost mate.
  69. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 10:37 am
    Buiadh: Coming from someone that couldn`t even remember the gulf war in the first place, that`s real hurtful.

    I hear you guys might even be loosing Scotland next. I can`t say I blame them for wanting to secede.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 10:50 am
    @CrakrJak "I hear you guys might even be loosing Scotland next. I can`t say I blame them for wanting to secede."

    Proud Scot and Brit reporting in. I`m voting against independence along with the other two thirds of my country.
  71. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
    Buiadh: I`m guessing you`re too scared to go it on own eh ? Too dependent on the crown teet I bet.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:14 am
    @CakrJak Back to the personal digs eh? Showing your maturity again, well done! Scotland is the richest part of the UK outside of London and the South East of England. Dependant on the crown? No. I`m as British as I am Scottish. What way would you vote if your state wanted to secede?

    Stop talking about what you no nothing of. Literally nothing besides what your media glamourises. (They love a good independence stoy)
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:24 am
    @5Cats So... you`re citing a Wikipedia page about a book that is considered a conspiracy theory by historians as your proof?! Hahahahahahaha, thank you for that, I needed a good laugh!

    Did you read the whole thing or did you just choose to ignore this part?!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Leave it to the Eurotwats to whine about the A-bomb being used but overlook the firebombing of Dresden and many other cities once again picking and choosing what to see a country for....Dresden
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:35 am
    Here lets make a hat for the UK.....
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    @whodat
    that`s just business as usual for 5cats
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    "Leave it to the Eurotwats to whine about the A-bomb being used but overlook the firebombing of Dresden and many other cities once again picking and choosing what to see a country for."

    Overlook what? Another instance of civilians being murdered by the US army? Your defense of your countrys cowardly mass murder of innocent civilians is to bring up another occasion in the same war where your country cowardly committed mass murder of innocent civilians. Seriously? Are you genuinely that stupid?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    vv You bombed them too Einstein!
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    The japanese were going to fight to the death, as was demonstrated on sai pan. Dropping the a bomb probably saved lives in the long run.
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    Canoas Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 5:46 pm
    @wake_n_bake
    You`re half right. Dropping the first A-bomb definitely saved lives. Dropping the second didn`t.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 5:57 pm
    If I`m not mistaken the second one was dropped because the japanese generals still wouldn`t surrender.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 6:29 pm
    @ Crakr you were going to come in guns ablazing to defend us from Argentina like last time? Whatever. Keep on serving your self interests and we`ll drag you into the war if we need you, employing deception or withheld information if needs be, just like WWI and WWII.

    Till ithen, let`s hope the politicians stave off a war. I hold out hope; post-empire Britain doesn`t get into unnecessary fights except to do the minimum to stay in your preferred vendor club.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    March 4, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    @wake_n_bake Yup, you`re right. First one on 6 August, second on 9 August 1945. The Potsdam Declaration called for unconditional surrender which the Japanese ignored so the first one was dropped, and they still basically ignored us maybe thinking we were just bluffing and wouldn`t do it again.
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    alexander_xx Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    @mcgovern... thats not a hat, try again and whilst youre at it im sure there are some more ignorant/stereotypical things youve missed, bad teeth, fish and chips, tea, the queen and go on chuck in a penny farthing too.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    @mcgovern That`s not a hat you`re wearing if it`s hot in there and smells of Santorum, then you`ve got your head stuck up your own arse. Come on and pull it out before you suffocate.
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    Mechi Male 18-29
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    March 4, 2012 at 9:38 pm
    You know they might as well make a debate section for IMB and post all the troll pictures there.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    CrakrJak "With all this vitriol aimed at America these days, I can understand why isolationism is gaining popularity again."
    But Isolationism only works if we isolate the jobs HERE not in china. I would shout `BUY AMERICA` but we don`t make anything anymore.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Buiadh "When was the last time the US joined a war to help another country? I honestly cannot think of one single instance."
    How about rescuing Kuwait from the Iraqi army? Yeah, I know, the eurotrash had a token involvement but we beared the majority of the burden fianancially and militarily.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:39 pm
    "How about rescuing Kuwait from the Iraqi army? Yeah, I know, the eurotrash had a token involvement but we beared the majority of the burden fianancially and militarily."

    I would agree that this was a stabilising action, but the USA`s was self-serving and propped up a repressive regime.

    Without oil, white people, or geopolitical strategic reasons, the USA sits on the sidelines and watches the carnage. The examples are too numerous to require listing.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 4, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    @ Draculya - so if the US helps we are self serving bastards and if we don`t we`re self centered ass holes who sit on the sidelines.

    Sounds like nothing will please you and you just want to bitch. So I`ll say no more on this topic and let you have your Midol Moment.

    P.S. Anyone got a tampon they can give to Draculya?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 5, 2012 at 12:05 am
    Nom nom nom.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 5, 2012 at 12:15 am
    Buiadh: My state is unfortunately ran by Chicago gangster democrats, the corruption is so bad that no one`s vote, downstate, means a damn thing.

    But if I were Scottish I`d certainly want to get the hell away from British rule and heavy taxation.

    Draculya: Personally I couldn`t care less what happens over the Falklands, but it should be the residents decision not Britain`s or Argentina`s.

    the USA sits on the sidelines

    So you bitch about the USA being the `World Police` in one breath and then bitch about us not being the `World Police` in another ? Perhaps Gerry is right, you need a midol.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    March 5, 2012 at 12:49 am
    My point is simply (obviously) that Team America should either act as the world police, or not act as the world police, but it should decide on its policy out of respect and compassion, rather than the three tests: "whiteness, resources, self-protection".

    It should also please stop dragging its allies (to call them `friends` is a joke). Into your sodding pointless wars of impotent aggression. We Brits knew a war in Afghanistan was unwinnable, they beat us before when we were the global super power, they later beat the Soviets which we all (NATO) feared for the same reason. They have mastered the art of asymmetric warfare, they have nothing to lose, they will die to a man to defend their land and they will be there long after we`ve gotten bored of occupying them.

    You`re bullies and braggarts and not very convincing as either.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 5, 2012 at 3:15 am
    Draculya: We still found and killed Osama Bin Laden and most of the rest of AlQaeda. We`ve learned how to defeat asymmetric warfare. Also excuse the hell out of us for going after the assh*les that blew up your subways and trains and crashed loaded jetliners into our buildings.

    As for you`re made up 3 tests BS, might I add that your country is the one famous for colonization and aggression, to which I can give dozens of examples. When our military leaves a country it`s not a colony of ours.

    So take your self-righteous pompous condensation and shove it up your royal imperialist ass.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 5, 2012 at 4:32 am
    You mean the Catholic fundamentalists that you funded through your Irish pubs, or the ones that blew up the PAN-AM jet? Or maybe it`s the ones that blew up London because we supported you on your crusades?
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    March 5, 2012 at 4:44 am
    If you understood assymetric warfare you`d know that killing UBL and the leaders of what was then AQ achieved little more than PR points. There really is no one organisation; it`s fluid, changing, cellular yet loosly affiliated. You`re fighting an idea, an ideology. They hate you and the jews and they think god insists they make the world muslim and kill any that resist. Actually it`s far more complicated than that.

    I don`t hate you or your country, but I find its culture distasteful and its foreign policy illegal. I believe in peace and discourse, but I totally get why you (and we) are catching the flak for it.

    America is the black sheep of the world; we`d love to see you reform, but if you can`t change, all we can do is cut you loose and pick up the zipper bag once the crack/ meth/ heroin has taken its toll.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    March 5, 2012 at 5:14 am
    @Gerry "How about rescuing Kuwait from the Iraqi army? Yeah, I know, the eurotrash had a token involvement but we beared the majority of the burden fianancially and militarily."

    I find it insulting that you term us "eurotrash" when we lost lives in that war for your oil. We had 50,000 troops over there. Also you were hardly in it by yourself, the Saudi`s supplied almost 100,000.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 5, 2012 at 5:59 am
    I find it insulting that you term us "eurotrash" when we lost lives in that war for your oil.

    ROFL!! ROFL!! I didn`t know the UK has had an alternative energy since 1991!

    @alexander_xx

    Crumpets and spotted dick you forgot those. Oh let not forget the.....

    Eurotrash hypocrisy it`s delicious!!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    March 5, 2012 at 6:24 am
    Now ya got me waiting for a explanation on getting us involved with Lybia cause you all care sooooo much about them BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36665 posts
    March 5, 2012 at 6:47 am

    Buiadh "we lost lives in that war for your oil."
    "MY" oil?
    Because you don`t have cars in europe?
    And no one outside of the U.S. uses petroleum products like plastic?
    I hope you`re good looking `cause thinking isn`t your strong suit.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    March 5, 2012 at 6:49 am

    @ McGovern1981 - better pork faggots than porky faggots.


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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    March 5, 2012 at 8:25 am
    vv LOL
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    pompousass7 Male 40-49
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    March 5, 2012 at 10:05 am
    what war did the u.s ever win???
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    March 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    we shoulda got a gold belt yall`

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