2 Teens Light A 13-Year-Old On Fire, Left To Die

Submitted by: xxsevynxx 4 years ago

You"ve heard about the Zimmerman case but not this. Does the fact that it"s a Black on White crime make a difference?
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Female 734
the difference is this kid is alive
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Male 25,416
wow
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Male 180
"But Trayvon Martins case is different in the respects that those boys probably got locked up at the end of the day, where as Zimmermand didn`t."

Except it hasn`t been proven that Zimmerman did anything wrong. You are allowed to use deadly force to protect yourself and NOT be arrested for it.
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Female 2,525
The attackers could be heard muttering, "drating Coons" on tape.
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Female 584
I`m so glad that boy is going to eventually be ok. The boys who did that to him should be thoroughly prosecuted! S/N am I the only one who found it ironic that the boys last name is Coon?
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Male 337
Doiknowyou...that was the first comment in a while to make me make a comment. that was `kin epically hilarious.
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Female 349
Unfortunate that this happened. But Trayvon Martins case is different in the respects that those boys probably got locked up at the end of the day, where as Zimmermand didn`t. That`s what I found most appalling. If you shoot someone you get locked the drat up. Especially if you`re following them in the first place.

I also think that this is a media ploy to rein gun control.I think it maybe that after Obama works on the first amendment he`s going to work on the second.
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Male 674
@ MacGuffin It was compared to Zimmerman Case in the comment and elsewhere all over the internets, that`s kind of why people think of this (*agreed*) separate and unrelated case.....

Kind of how people say "MSM" is it? Baits people into hearing Zimmerman "C**n", same mind trick.
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Male 1,103
What do Zimmerman and this story`s attackers have in common? They both hate Coons....Too soon?
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Male 1,239
I know there is a lot of bias in the world still, and I have a receding trust in the law enforcement community so I know a bit of discretion is needed to swallow anything they say without thought. All the same, if in the end most of the medical reports, witness reports, and police reports point to one way then it would be absurd to think that many sources were all lying to screw over one of them or the other. And if the system provides all the evidence one way or the other and we aren`t willing to accept it as a whole picture than what`s the point of the system at all? May as well go back to mob justice, then it`ll be real fair... Wait for all the info before weighing it all, seeing the whole picture, and making a decision. At this point if it comes out he looks guilty he will be picked up, charged, and he will get his. As it stands, if it comes out he is innocent he will still likely be picked up by someone other then law enforcement, and likely killed.
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Male 1,239
Sorry, I guess I`m not sensationalistic enough to take one blurry video as definitive evidence. Having sat on a murder trial I have a weird desire to see all the evidence including medical reports from doctors before I simply condemn a man to death or life in prison (in his case means death anyways). I broke my nose once and it barely bled at all for me. I will say if he had a cut on his head I didn`t see it but again it`s not exactly a high definition video and it may not have shown much bruising etc. for several hours. There are so many factors to consider that will come out during the investigation that will paint a bigger picture. Until then people are calling for blood prematurely and need to be patient no matter how tragic this is and make a sound decision with all the evidence possible. So far most of what we;ve seen is bad journalism and sensationalistic bullpoo.
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Female 1,803
@PinkRhold-have you seen the latest video of Zimmerman at the police station right after the incident? Doesn`t look like he was in ANY kind of struggle. No blood anywhere, clothes look fine, nothing on the back of his head. hmmmm. I would think if he shot while Trayvon was on him he would have blood on him, not to mention his own "broken nose".
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Male 1,239
Plus, with people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and an organization like the black panthers it doesn`t matter what evidence says, they will push for blood no matter what.
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Male 1,239
The media portrayed him as an innocent, candy loving child and Zimmerman as a cold blooded criminal vigilante. That was how the media pushed it and caused an uproar. Since then it has come out that Zimmerman cried out for help minutes before he fired, and that the kid was not a small, innocent, child. Kids at his school have said he was a bully, it`s been brought out he has gang tattoos. It`s come out that Zimmerman had some pretty serious wounds suggesting that he took quite a beating and tried to get help before firing a weapon he was legal to carry. None of these things I`ve said make wither side innocent or guilty, I have no idea. I do know that that is enough reasonable doubt to need more evidence before condemning a man as guilty as so many seem to already believe. Unfortunately, thanks to biased reporting, many people won`t believe otherwise if the evidence contrary facedrated them.
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Male 1,239
[quote] In Trayvon Martin`s case the attacker was an adult, killed an unarmed child, and was never arrested. The fact that he is the known perpetrator and not arrested is what makes it so different. I would be equally outraged no matter what trayvon`s ethnicity was because the known killer is free.[/quote]

He`s 17 which is old enough to be held accountable as an adult; the cute 13 year old is a 7 year old picture. He`s a gang tatted over 6 foot man. The kid was not carrying an extra weapon, however, if the little evidence made public so far is worth anything he was using his body as a weapon. He is walking free because the DA doesn`t feel that they have enough to hold him at this time based on available evidence. The fact that so many people are making an issue of this despite most of us knowing nothing really about what evidence is being looked at is clear enough evidence of prejudice on its own.
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Male 10,339
@grindinblade:

In Trayvon Martin`s case the defender was an adult, shot an unarmed child in self defense, and was never charged.

*fixed*
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Male 234
This is a terrible story and my heart goes out to the family and the poor child. But I don`t think that is why this isn`t on the news. The police here are pursuing the case, it is just that the suspects ran away and their identities are unknown. In Trayvon Martin`s case the attacker was an adult, killed an unarmed child, and was never arrested. The fact that he is the known perpetrator and not arrested is what makes it so different. I would be equally outraged no matter what trayvon`s ethnicity was because the known killer is free.
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Male 2,670
Let`s play Name the Attackers! Will they be named:
1) Don`tae
2) La`Jondraphan
3) Shaun`ta
4) Dwantarious
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Male 5,811
Do any of these news services indicate that they use Google Earth? Get your lawyers ready, Google, it`s knuckle-puck time!
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Female 2,602
A horrible, repulsive and disgusting crime. In answer to the question posed in the strapline of this thread: does the fact that the perpetrators were black and the victim was white make a difference? Not in itself, no. Does the fact that the perpetrators made it about race by making their motives clear via their racist comments during the commission of the crime make a difference? Yes, it certainly does, it escalates this into a hate crime, with different additional penalties attached, and rightly so.

In answer to the fact that the thread poster mentioned the Zimmerman case: it`s for you to consider why you immediately thought of that separate and unrelated case when presented with this disgusting, racism-fuelled hate crime.
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Male 2,552
The races are flipped; that`s why it isn`t on the news.
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Male 550
I guarantee you won`t see anymore on this poo. If it were a group of white boys lighting a black boy on fire, people would be in an uproar! Al Sharpton will come out of his cave. The Black Panthers would come to the rescue. THIS is a racist situation. Zimmerman: NOT a racist situation.
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Male 427
"The second you add additional penalties to things because of motives or personal convictions is the moment where free thought is abolished. "

So if I kill someone accidentally I should be treated the same way as a complete lunatic who just wants to murder people?

The motive matters to the crime. Killing someone in self defence isn`t the same as killing in cold blood. Having an heart attack while driving and ending up hitting someone is not the same as running them over because that guy did your wife.

If the law did not take motive into account then it wouldn`t be fair at all, it would be just end up punishing good people when they`re not really at fault.
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Male 1,931
When motives matter more than the actual crime, there is a problem. It`s a fine line between having laws for actions and laws for thoughts. Just before reading the rest, I don`t support racism at all.

But you can`t outlaw ideas. People are going to hate other people not of their own type. People are going to believe other things. Yes, it is a slippery slope and one I would like to avoid altogether because it is wrong. The second you add additional penalties to things because of motives or personal convictions is the moment where free thought is abolished.

But that`s already happened. So what am I arguing about?
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Male 51
I can`t imagine wanting to set someone on fire. Someone went wrong somewhere with these kids.
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Male 75
we live in a cold empty drated up world,nothing people do to eachother surprises me anymore,we try to separate ourselves from the rest of the animals but our animal nature still shows through, humans are disgusting beasts no different than the rest.
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Male 700
Lets focus on those two English tourists murdered in cold blood for a little bit.
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Male 2,514
Wait a minute. They don`t even know who the attackers are? Of course this wouldn`t make national news. It can`t even be varified that he was attacked at all.

This sounds a lot like the story of the girl who threw the acid in her own face and blamed it on a black person. No national news corporation in their right mind would pick up this story!
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Male 221
IF you think one case has anything like the other, you are stupid.
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Male 74
People assaulting people is the issue. Race, color, or name is completely irrelevant.
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Male 36,539
@mischief: Oh yes!
Pouring gasoline and setting a human on fire
EQUALS
defending ones self

Obviously!

@thebionic, we`re being sarcastic, eh? It has nothing to do with either case.
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Female 313
Why does their last name have anything to do with it?
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Male 674
Is this a joke how is it similar to Zimmerman case?

We know who killed Trayvon Martin and he wasn`t charged and has yet to be charged if national attention wasn`t brought to the case Zimmerman would be living his normal daily life.

What`s next are you gonna compare Stanford with your last blood drive when your black volunteer stuck you with a needle to draw blood *GASP*, so let`s clear Zimmerman of any wrong doing to even it out?

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Male 40
Da faq does his last name have to do with it?

I assume it`s either related to or is something you dislike. Why is that reason to set the kid on fire?
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Male 735
it effected their family FOREVER!!
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Male 3,745
FoolsPrussia: obviously i missed that >.>

also glad to see that im not the only one who thinks that this has something to do with their last name...
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Male 1,511
I`m thinking his last name had a lot to do with this.
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Male 382
Who said it was a `black on white` crime ? But you have to admit that their last name may cause a problem to narrow minded people and they were trying to get him to " blend" in. But a sun burn would have worked as well.
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Male 36
lol his last name is Coon
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Male 3,445
"we also havent heard about that Iraqi mom who was killed in her own home that was an obvious hate crime"

I posted about this in one of the many Trayvon Martin threads a few days ago, after one of our conservative friends claimed that only white on black crime gets reported. Nobody responded to me then.
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Male 3,364
CrakrJak: "Please learn how to spell."
It`s late, and I`m tired, so pardon me for a typo or two, but since you`ve just appointed yourself as IAB`s spelling Nazi, I would say it behooves you to be careful of your own spelling in the future. VERY careful.
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Male 17,512
jtrebowski: Please learn how to spell.

It`s spelled precious. And btw, I rarely even watch the news on TV, Fox or otherwise, too depressing.
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Male 1,008
Kid looked suspicious. It was self defense. I think he broke somebody`s nose."

laughed some seltzer out my nose on that one

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Male 15,832
[quote]Does the fact that it`s a Black on White crime make a difference?[/quote]
Seriously? Are you f***ing retarded?
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Male 453
Kid looked suspicious. It was self defense. I think he broke somebody`s nose.
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Male 4,793
hope those two kids get murdered.
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Male 36,539
Oh @pigsnout, you`re drating completely an idiot!

Are you an idiot by accident? Or on purpose?

LINKY!
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Female 546
how do we know his attackers were black? they never said that....
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Male 626
Nobody talks about black on (race) crime because people just accept it. People only care when it`s (race) on black crime, and the news picks it up as fast as missing white girl stories.
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Male 36,539
[quote] Biracial can be anything literally as long as the parents aren`t the same race[/quote]
EXACTLY @LillianDulci! That is why Obama is "black" and Zimmerman is "white"! Because the MSM SAYS SO!!! You have an arguement against that? I`m eager to hear it...

[quote]Yeah I`ve been on this site since 2005 it`s nice to see something I submitted finally get posted. lol[/quote]
Well bless your heart @zzsevynxx! Post and suggest more often! Quantity sometimes equals quality, eh?

@Standards: I hope YOU are joking, but I doubt it...
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Male 21
It is not uncommon for there to be black on <insert race here> and it not be reported. If you go through the internet you will find a huge amount of black on white crime that has never been reported.
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Male 3,445
More nonsense from Leesah. As I said, this story was covered in the media. It`s different because Zimmerman was allowed to walk free because of a terrible law. These kids will be prosecuted because there is no gap in the law that will let them get away with it, like what happened with Zimmerman.

I won`t even begin to comment on the racial hostility implied in your comment.
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Male 564
"It happened nearly a month ago, it already missed the window for media attention.[[[[[[[ The Dems don`t want you to know about any of /their/ people killing white kids, why do you think they`re leaving out the "Zimmerman is a registered Democrat" thing from every story? White-Hispanic who shot a black boy MUST be a Republican!]]]]]]] "

I sincerely hope you`re kidding, for the sake of everyone.
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Male 347
i hate how they`re talking about the aftermath of the incident. I just wanna know what happened.
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Male 3,745
we also havent heard about that Iraqi mom who was killed in her own home that was an obvious hate crime. the Z/T case is covering up alot of stuff that shouldn`t be covered up. hes been dead over a month. if they were going to arrest Z they would have done it already. move on with life.
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Male 1,008
his mom is peruvian and his dad has mixed lineage, but white is the first word in your term, he is more hispanic than anything else, go ahead and ignore that though for the agenda
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Female 1,566
"I bet you won`t see this get national attention like Trayvon did."

It happened nearly a month ago, it already missed the window for media attention. The Dems don`t want you to know about any of /their/ people killing white kids, why do you think they`re leaving out the "Zimmerman is a registered Democrat" thing from every story? White-Hispanic who shot a black boy MUST be a Republican!
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Male 599
@apedrana
He`s going to be charged(unless the media ruins that too). He wasn`t arrested because of Florida law.
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Male 3,445
By the way, this case has been reported in the media. I`ve seen other stories on it. The only reason the Trayvon Martin case ever got so big was because the police had the killer but didn`t arrest him. The racial dialogue piled on after that started.
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Male 76
@5Cats Yeah I`ve been on this site since 2005 it`s nice to see something I submitted finally get posted. lol
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Male 77
I just hate racism of any kind, and I think it always sets human kind back hundreds of years. Both blacks and whites need to let go of the past to move forward.
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Male 3,445
Sigh...two points.

1) Contrary to what the media tries to assert, the Trayvon Martin case is not racial (that we know of). No clear evidence has come forward on that.

2) The Trayvon Martin case is about a crappy self-defense law. These kids will be prosecuted if/when they are found.
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Male 144
I think people are missing the point, its the fact that Zimmerman wasn`t arrested or charged for the killing. If the kid was white, i`m pretty sure Zimmerman would be locked up by now or given the death penalty.
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Male 3,364
CrakrJak: "I bet you won`t see this get national attention like Trayvon did."

Including your prescious Fox "News".
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Male 1,511
It was self-defense. Those nice black boys thought whitey was a burglar and were protecting the neighborhood. He was probably wearing a hoodie.
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Female 2,674
"biracial does describe him as someone not fully of any one race, it is far more accurate than WHITE(hispanic)"

Biracial doesn`t describe his RACE. Biracial is extremely vague and gives no description whatsoever of him. Biracial can be anything literally as long as the parents aren`t the same race. White(hispanic) or white/hispanic or white+hispanic are much more accurate.
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Male 1,511
Coons. lol. Seriously?
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Male 1,008
im going to put my hoodie on and go WWWWD, walk while white with dogs
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Male 1,008
lol gerry thanks dude i was getting all verklempt there but now im copacetic
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Male 37,902

Typical porfiling. No doubt he was WWW {walking while white}.
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Male 1,008
doesnt his father have some jewish ancestry too? why isnt it Jew(hispanic and some white) because that isnt as sexy as white guy kills innocent black child
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Male 1,008
biracial does describe him as someone not fully of any one race, it is far more accurate than WHITE(hispanic)
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Female 2,674
yusuk, "biracial" doesn`t describe his race at all though. And we didn`t know his race at first.
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Male 1,008
do we say white jew? or white arab? or white any freakin thing else?
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Male 599
@LillianDulci @yusuksomuch
Although white(hispanic) is a perfectly fine description, I`m fairly positive the media is intentionally only using the white part to invoke emotion and get views.
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Male 17,512
I bet you won`t see this get national attention like Trayvon did.
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Male 1,008
except the emphasis is on the "white" because it fits this particular agenda,basic lemming technique. the only accurate description of his race would be Multi or Bi.
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Female 2,674
Regardless (though I swear it happens, it was in a lot of forms I filled out for school stuff/scholarships recently), he`s biracial, white+hispanic as far as I know. People calling him hispanic are no more wrong than people calling him white, and white(hispanic) is an accurate description.
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Male 1,008
nope.
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Male 599
LillianDulci,
Oh, well I`ve never seen `white` on a form. It`s always `Caucasian`.
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Male 519
The media doesn`t care about hate crimes they can`t make money off of.
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Female 2,674
ivran, I live in Florida, tons of Hispanics here. Unless it has "caucasian" on the form instead of white, I always see "white (non-hispanic)"
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Male 599
@LillianDulci On all the forms I`ve filled out, I`ve only seen hispanic seperate from white, but I also live in the south so there are good bit of hispanic people here.
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Female 2,674
"white(hispanic)!!?? buy into the hype much?"

Have you ever filled out a form, where you have to choose that you`re white (non-hispanic)? I fill out forms like that all the time, because there are hispanic people who are considered "white (hispanic)". Also, as far as I know, Zimmerman is biracial, so white & latino.
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Male 132
It`s not racist if a black is on the giving end of a beating or murder.
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Male 1,008
"Hate crimes are hate crimes, whether they are black on white or white on black or some other variation. One is no worse, or better than the other."

that`s obvious by the equal coverage this case gets
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Male 1,008
"The reason Trayvon`s death is getting so much attention isn`t just because it`s a white(hispanic) on black crime."

white(hispanic)!!?? buy into the hype much?
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Male 3,314
Hate crimes are hate crimes, whether they are black on white or white on black or some other variation. One is no worse, or better than the other.
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Male 36,539
Congradulations @xxsevynxx on your first post!! Hope it was `good for you` eh? lolz!

Wrong skin colour of victem, wrong skin colour of suspects, didn`t die, family name is "Coons".
MSM = ignore!
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Male 322
It`s not getting media attention because everyone that has half a brain will realize both of those kids will spend the rest of natural lives behind bars. It was an obvious hate crime and that automatically comes with stiffer penalties.
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Female 2,674
The reason Trayvon`s death is getting so much attention isn`t just because it`s a white(hispanic) on black crime. Also, glad to hear that the kid survived!
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Male 495
Because the police have actually been involved with it.
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Male 1,832
No that doesnt make a difference! The fact that you even have to ask that is what is wrong with the world.
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Male 76
Link: 2 Teens Light A 13-Year-Old On Fire, Left To Die [Rate Link] - You`ve heard about the Zimmerman case but not this. Does the fact that it`s a Black on White crime make a difference?
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