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90 Responses to The United Kingdom, Explained [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of haxxorz
    haxxorz Male 13-17
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
    Link: The United Kingdom, Explained - A simple graph for those of us who say UK, England, Ireland, Great Britain & whatever else, without knowing the meaning
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    bankvole Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:11 am
    Very good, except there should also be a circle covering the Rep of Ireland and Northern Ireland entitled `Ireland`.
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:13 am
    What bugs me the most is people who call the United States "America".
    America is a continent, not a country.
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    Jakk18 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:13 am
    Republic of Ireland shouldn`t even be on there. It has nothing to do with the UK and is its own separate country.
    It`d be like including Canada in a diagram showing the States in the USA.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:18 am
    I`m surprised that people have trouble understanding this. But I guess it`s easy for me as I live there...
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    vVvBrock Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:18 am
    At long last, it finally makes sense.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:19 am
    @Jakk18 - it demonstrates that the republic of Ireland (Southern Ireland) is a separate country, for those that do not know. In the same way that including Canada would demonstrate that it is not part of the US. It provides context...
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    Nick513 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:21 am
    I`m American. I don`t care.
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    one47master Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:22 am
    @bankvole, that would be a geographical phen diagram, but this is a political one. So no there shouldn`t be an overlap

    (this has bugged me for years being from northern ireland and people not even knowing they are different countries different currency different capitol different government,. bermuda has more in comon with england than northern ireland has with rep of ireland
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    spuddington Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:25 am
    actually delighted this is up. im irish and im fed up of people making the mistake thinking were british or a part of the uk. not that i have anything against the uk, just nice to know that were separate
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:26 am
    Speaking just for the U.S., this used to be taught in elementary school(Grades 1-6), and when I was young was common knowledge- is this not still the case?
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:27 am
    Didn`t we have a video a while ago explaining this very thing, by that excellent English guy... it was more entertaining... and more complete.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:29 am
    The reason the Republic of Ireland is included in the diagram is because it`s geographically part of the British Isles, which encompasses all four countries (technically Wales is a prinipality like Monaco but never mind either way). It also includes the Isle of Man and Jersey and Guernsey (plus about 1600 other islands around that area of various sizes). The British Isles is a geographic term only, and never used in politial terms, and rarely in sport (the British lions in rugby union being a rare example, although since 2001 even these are now called the British and Irish Lions)
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:30 am
    I didnt know there was this much confusion.
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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:34 am
    Actually this doesn`t explain it correctly because Great Britain is an island, no a political union.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:49 am
    Also there should be another circle including the Channel Islands and Isle of Man labelled "The British Islands" and a final one including all these and Republic of Ireland labelled "The British Isles". Then you have to consider Gibraltar and the Falklands ...

    (Americans, tell your idiot President and manipulative Secretary of State that the Falklands are, and will remain, British)
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    Burgh Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 10:49 am
    "America is a continent, not a country."

    By that definition then not just "a continent" but two continents. :D
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Frank - tell your classmate`s mother that taking her clothes off for Great Britain is no way to earn a living.
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    thubanstar Female 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:03 am
    I hate countries. We`re all people.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:06 am
    Did people really not know this?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:12 am
    "What bugs me the most is people who call the United States "America". America is a continent, not a country."

    At first read I thought you were a product of bad schooling but I can see why this could bug you.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:15 am
    "Did people really not know this?"

    Are you a troll? Kids in the United States can`t even name a country that begins with the letter U.
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    ecstacy911 Female 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Not for long, Scotland wants to become a part of Scandinavia.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:26 am
    Should there be a circle around Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland?
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:43 am
    I can see a LOT of people moving up to Scotland if they do separate. Me included- although I may need woolly drawers and a warm hat....
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    Golden1 Female 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:59 am
    I still think this is stupid. I think the only people using this are those in England. I highly doubt when you ask someone from Scotland where they are from, they say "Great Britain". I get the difference I just choose to ignore it. I wish we could just give England their own planet already.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:09 pm
    Duh? Cool content, IAB.
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    smaus Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    yeah it`s not like one of our favorite anthems to sing on the 4th of July is America the Beautiful or anything, or part of the full name of our country U.S.A.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    I`ll be sure to use this the next time I give a poo.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Quick question...do spammers like FRANKRIVER get banned so we don`t have to deal with their garbage here?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    It is called the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Ireland after all.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    Quick question...do spammers like FRANKRIVER get banned so we don`t have to deal with their garbage here?
    Yes, yes they do.
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    johnhgough Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    still bored
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    It is called the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Ireland after all.
    No, it`s the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. See diagram.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    Well, that does explain it!
  36. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    It is called the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Ireland after all.

    It WAS called that, for about a hundred years between Ireland joining the UK (Act of Union, 1801) and the partition of Ireland in an attempt to stop sectarian violence and bring peace to Ireland (1921).

    But it isn`t called that now. ROI and NI are seperate places. ROI is wholly independent of the UK. Well, in political terms anyway. It`s economically dependent on the UK.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    ooo... circles!
  38. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    I still think this is stupid. I think the only people using this are those in England.

    You are wrong. The majority of people who emphasise the distinction are Scottish and most of the rest are Welsh.

    I highly doubt when you ask someone from Scotland where they are from, they say "Great Britain".

    True, but many of them would say "Britain". "Great Britain" is a more formal name, not much used in daily life.

    Many of them would say "Scotland". Some of those are Scottish nationalists...and it`s mostly them who emphasise the distinction. Your claim that it`s only English people who do so makes no sense and contradicts your own stated views about Scottish people.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    I wish we could just give England their own planet already.

    There`s a small but growing amount of support in England for England leaving the union and regaining independence. England has always been the majority of the union. Scotland would have been a failed nation without shiploads of English money propping it up (their economy failed in the early 18th century after a massive gamble that failed, which prompted unification with England).

    Don`t bother talking about oil and gas. Most of it`s off the coast of Norfolk! That`s not Scottish except in the minds of the most deranged and ignorant nationalists.

    England has been the most subsumed into the union (no national anthem, no national parliament, etc), has contributed the most to the union and is mindlessly blamed for everything. So there`s a low-key grumbling that we should leave the union and let the whiners go drat themselves.

    I disagree, as it wouldn`t stop them anyway.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    To clarify: the whiners I referred to aren`t Scots and Welsh in general. They`re the arsebrained nationalists spewing propaganda, lies and hatred.
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    Pandabee Female 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Ok, so if we all fell out with each other, who would I pay my taxes too? I have a Welsh Father, an Irish Mother, I was born in England, but I married a Scott? ...ummm, bugger it, I`m English.
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    Jakk18 Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    @Pandabee You`d pay your taxes to the country where you currently reside.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    I can`t figure out why Scotland wants to separate as most of the ministers in UK government seem to be Scottish and there have been several Scottish PMs and Chancellor of Exchequer. If the Scots think they`ve been dealt a bad hand, it`s Scots who`ve dealt it.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    Is this I Am Bored?
    or
    Make Me Bored??

    Seriously... please, this sucks balls!!
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    The Britons? Who are the Britons?
    We all are, and I am your King!
    I never voted for you...
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    February 11, 2012 at 4:52 pm
    Do England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland work like states? Or do they have more/less power?
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    sunday_scour Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    I honestly had no idea that it was that complicated. Now I feel smarter.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    Is IAB having some problem? No new posts from long time now.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Is Whitney Huston dead? I just read this article on a local newspaper, but can`t find any news in US newspaper yet. Is it true or is it fake like the last time they gave this notice.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 5:44 pm
    Yes sadly seem true ABCnews
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    supersassyk8 Female 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    Do England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland work like states? Or do they have more/less power?

    No they are countries. Scotland has its own laws and parliament. Within each country we have Counties. (Yorkshire, humberside, tyneside)

    I can`t explain it very well, sorry. I will let someone with more knowledge go into detail :D
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    owfannybaws Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    In reply to Americans questions on Scottish independence my answer is this...your country fought a long and bloody war with the English for your independence and many of my Scottish country men died to aid this wish to no longer be an English colony so why do you find it so hard to understand our wish to be free from the same colonial rule. We are ruled by a foreign nation in the same way as if your country were ruled by, lets say Canada, how would you feel if everyday someone from a completely different country and culture told you how to live your life, took your taxes and squandered your nations wealth... unfortunately without Scottish oil England is bankrupt so they will never let us go..."We are bought and sold for English gold, such a parcel o rogues in a nation" a quote from Rabbie Burns
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    motownc Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    too simplified, this is a better representation
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    I`d only add that you could any other country as a green ball - same diff.
  55. Profile photo of motownc
    motownc Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 6:39 pm
    and owfannybaws, north sea oil revenue is £10b of which under £9b is attributable to Scottish oil. Scotland currently receives a £32b grant from central government. The UK has nothing to fear from Scottish independence and in fact the benefits would far out weigh the costs.
  56. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm
    The Britons? Who are the Britons?
    We all are, and I am your King!
    I never voted for you...

    Come and see the oppression inherent in the system!

    Brilliant film.
  57. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    your country fought a long and bloody war with the English for your independence and many of my Scottish country men died to aid this wish to no longer be an English colony so why do you find it so hard to understand our wish to be free from the same colonial rule.

    Cobblers. Scotland has never been a colony of England. Both countries invaded each other and meddled in each other`s affairs in the middle ages. The Scottish nobility and royalty were mostly Normans, mostly related to the same Normans who ruled England.

    Case in point: During the English civil war in the mid 12th centutry ("the anarchy"), the king of Scotland invaded England because it was weakened by the war. He annexed northern England, marched south and backed one of the claimants to the English throne. Who was his niece.
  58. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    We are ruled by a foreign nation in the same way as if your country were ruled by, lets say Canada, how would you feel if everyday someone from a completely different country and culture told you how to live your life, took your taxes and squandered your nations wealth.

    Scotland has more independence than England. Unification started when a Scottish king became king of England too (union of thrones, 1607). Scotland was bailed out by England after full unification (Act of Union, 1707). The current balance of money between the two areas still flows from England to Scotland.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    unfortunately without Scottish oil England is bankrupt so they will never let us go

    Most of the oil and gas in the north sea is in English territorial waters. Ignorant nationalists like you are claiming that Scotland owns the seas all the way down to London!

    I`d love to let people like you go, I really would. Maybe the Orkney islands would be large enough to hold you all.

    And by the way, Scotland was formed at least in part by conquest from Ireland. That`s why it`s called Scotland (the Scotti were Irish).

    Your knowledge is that of propaganda. It is not of history or reality.
  60. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:14 pm
    Do England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland work like states? Or do they have more/less power?

    Kind of sort of :)

    Scotland has it`s own government, dealing with things that only affect Scotland. As a result, they have the most indepence within the union. Scottish MPs can vote on issues affecting only other countries in the union, but other countries in the union cannot vote on issues affecting only Scotland. Wales has a national assembly, which has lesser powers, as does Northern Ireland. Only England has nothing of that kind - we`ve no indepence at all within the union (but we are by far the most populous country in the union, so most MPs are representing part of England).

    I think that in terms of power within the union, USA states are between UK countries and UK counties (each country is split into counties, with local government).

    It`s a complex mash from ~2000 years of history.
  61. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:20 pm
    In case anyone brings it up, I know that strictly speaking England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are not countries (UK is the country). But they`re sort of countries, sort of culturally independent of each other, sort of historically seperate...sort of countries :)
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    ~Squrlz leads an angry mob of Greek protesters onstage. Partly illuminated by the flickering lights of their Molotov [email protected], they are chanting loudly~

    "Bored at Night! Bored at Night! Bored at Night! Bored at Night!"

    ~raising a little squirrel-paw fist, Squrlz whips up the mob`s passions~

    "DOWN with the FancyLad austerity measures! Bring back Bored at Night on weekends! We are the 99%!"
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    Some more on North Sea oil and gas...

    Hardly any of it is in Scottish territorial waters. Quite apart from the fact that most of it is south of a projection of the border and therefore is Scottish only in the ignorant nationalist propganda of liars, the majority of what is north of the projection of the border is too far out to be in Scottish territorial waters. International treaties have assigned it to the UK. If Scotland leaves the UK, it will no longer be in the UK. So it won`t have a legal claim to UK assets. Like the oil outside of Scottish territorial waters. Which is almost all of it.

    Even if Scotland somehow laid claim to UK assets outside of Scottish waters...the entire income to the UK from oil and gas north of the border is less than the amount of UK tax money spent bailing out the royal bank of Scotland.

    Oil and gas is the strongest argument they have and it`s a mixture of deceit and lies.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    While the British did not invent gin, they did invent the gin and tonic. For that I will be forever grateful.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    While the British did not invent gin, they did invent the gin and tonic. For that I will be forever grateful.

    The Irish have us beaten there. They invented whisky!
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    smaus Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    yah for whiskey, even though I prefer scotch whiskey
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 9:18 pm
    circle them all
    add in all the smaller islands (that should be included in the united kingdom circle)
    name it "British Isles"
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    tnaran Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm
    @Angilion: But isn`t it worth it to get rid of the Scottish Nationalist Party? :-)
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    This seems pro-Irish.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    February 11, 2012 at 11:57 pm
    annnddddd still no one gives a crap.
  71. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 12:50 am
    @tnaran:

    That`s a point, but it wouldn`t. They`d still be the same people, saying the same things. Seceding from the union wouldn`t stop them. Scotland wouldn`t be any better off, at best, so there would still be plenty of bad things they could blame England for and, of course, there would still be everything in the past (real and imagined). They probably think Braveheart is a historical account. It`s a joke anyway, as Scotland would still be part of the EU and therefore not properly independent regardless.

    Despite the rocky beginnings, the union has been good for all of us. I wouldn`t really want to bin it.
  72. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 12:54 am
    This seems pro-Irish.

    I hadn`t noticed that, but they have made both parts of Ireland a great deal larger than any kind of scale would warrant (e.g. geographical, population, GDP).
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 12:56 am
    Most of the oil and gas in the north sea is in English territorial waters.

    Oops, my mistake. Norway has the claim to a huge chunk of it. But the main point stands - it`s not Scottish.
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    February 12, 2012 at 1:39 am
    figures they would pick green to represent the republic of ireland. racists.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    February 12, 2012 at 9:12 am
    Basically, the way to not offend anyone is (if you can`t hear the difference in accents - and not everyone can) to call them Irish and cheerily apologise if corrected.

    Alternatively, if you`re not from UK or Ireland, you`re automatically forgiven anyway, but then stand by for an explanation of why you`re wrong.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    February 12, 2012 at 11:18 am
    Fwoggie- if anyone even hinted I was a bloody mick I would punch `em...... I speak perfect English!!!
  77. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 1:04 pm
    figures they would pick green to represent the republic of ireland. racists.

    Huh?

    Green is the colour most associated with ROI (and Ireland in general). A lot of Ireland, especially ROI, *is* green (with grass and other plants). Ireland is poetically referred to as the Emerald Isle because of that. Green is a major colour in their flag. Off the top of my head, I don`t know any country that has any colour more strongly associated with it than Ireland and green.

    Also...racist? I know that race is not real and therefore just means whatever anyone says it means, but how can you make a nationality a race and keep a straight face?

    Ah...maybe you`re not keeping a straight face. Maybe you`re trolling.
  78. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Basically, the way to not offend anyone is (if you can`t hear the difference in accents - and not everyone can) to call them Irish and cheerily apologise if corrected.

    You`ll offend some people with that method. Probably less than using any of the other terms, though.

    I suggest if you really can`t tell from the accent, then don`t randomly assign one term to them. Just ask them. That way, you`ll only offend people who are really desperate to be offended.
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    Pandabee Female 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    @jakk18, umm no not always. When I worked in Dubai the company paid the taxes back to the UK.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    February 12, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    To the Scottish. Eff off and go back to the centuries of poverty you came from then. You have a complete fantasy about history. There were more Scots on the English side at Culloden than there were on the Scots side. The Jacobites were defeated by Scots. The English have shared power with you by putting Scot on the throne and we`ve even had Scottosh Prime Ministers. None of it is enough for you, so get back behind the wall and freeze your jollies off in your dark little nation. Within a couple of years you`ll make Albania look like Las Vegas.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    @burbclaver, Scotland is a beautiful country and its denizen are ggrrreaaat men and women, so go back to your poohole and drown in it
  82. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    February 12, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    PierreJeanFR, I`m going to point out (in case anyone hasn`t noticed) that nothing you said countered any of the things burbclaver said.

    I`ll assume that`s because you know they`re true with the exception of "dark". Granted, it`s slighter darker in Scotland than England if you average out light levels over long enough, but not much. It`s only very slightly nearer the pole.

    The comparison with Albania is speculation and probably wouldn`t happen. Scotland could probably stand up fine on its own now and probably wouldn`t collapse economically.

    But everything else they said, regarding history, is completely true.

    As for the idea that everyone from a country is "ggrrreaaat", that`s silly babble that even the cartoon character you`re quoting wouldn`t say. There are a few great Scots, a few really pooty Scots and a lot of ordinary Scots. Just like everywhere else.
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    steve41high Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2012 at 8:48 am
    The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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    steve41high Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2012 at 8:51 am
    and I still find it weird how North America contains America and not vice versa (I do understand it, dont bother explaining)
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    February 13, 2012 at 9:46 am
    IMHO, Scotland failed to gain independance because the "leaders" felt they had too much to lose and chose to hold onto their land and holdings and allowed themselves to be bribed by the English rather than fight and potentially lose everything.

    The U.S. colonists, on the other hand, felt that if they had to live under tyranny, then all the land and money they had meant nothing. There was a fundamental understanding of the importance of freedom and independance that came from the top down. Too bad our current leaders are now the oppressors -- it`s proving to be considerably more difficult to overthrow the taxing and spending leaders of today, although with luck, we`ll have another victory for freedom this November.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    February 13, 2012 at 11:51 am
    IMHO, Scotland failed to gain independance because the "leaders" felt they had too much to lose and chose to hold onto their land and holdings and allowed themselves to be bribed by the English rather than fight and potentially lose everything.

    The U.S. colonists, on the other hand, felt that if they had to live under tyranny, then all the land and money they had meant nothing.

    The US also had a nice buffer zone called the Atlantic.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    February 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    IMHO, Scotland failed to gain independance because the "leaders" felt they had too much to lose and chose to hold onto their land and holdings and allowed themselves to be bribed by the English rather than fight and potentially lose everything.

    Scotland voluntarily surrendered independence to join the union (Act of Union), a hundred years after a Scottish king inherited the English throne (union of crowns). Admittedly war was a possibility, especially after the Scottish government was complicit in the mob murder of some English people on false charges just because they were English, but it would have been a war between two countries, not a revolt.

    This idea of Scotland being conquered and oppressed by England is pure fantasy and nationalist propaganda.

    The closest example I can think of from America would be Texas joining the USA.
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    McNSTY Male 18-29
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    February 13, 2012 at 11:35 pm
    "Didn`t we have a video a while ago explaining this very thing, by that excellent English guy... it was more entertaining... and more complete."

    @LazyMe484: Relevant
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 14, 2012 at 6:02 am
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    Zymotical Male 18-29
    198 posts
    February 14, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    While trying to determine whether I was more ignorant or apathetic to this infomation, I realized I don`t know and I don`t care.

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