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66 Responses to Police Abuse, Brutality, And Corruption

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    February 6, 2012 at 10:55 am
    Link: Police Abuse, Brutality, And Corruption - Police are there to serve and protect, but some wonder if that applies to protecting only the police themselves.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    February 6, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Ahhh, you`re catching on at last. Next lesson, the politicians.
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    djfoth Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 11:45 am
    The first guy started to charge with an ax very obviously. I would not trust a taser at that point...
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    February 6, 2012 at 11:53 am
    i think you can make this point without all the theatrics, it just makes it look like propaganda
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    fps_will Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 11:56 am
    this made me so damn mad im shaking at my desk, makes me want to commit some felonies
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Well, this documentary is clearly biased. From the first few videos I can see that the police acted rightly in performance of their job. Perhaps it could be argued that after the initial event that provoked a response from police that they used excessive force. But considering that they felt threatened that`s hard to prove.

    While I agree that police need to be heavily scrutinized, not all police arrest videos contain brutality.
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    FoSchizle Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Please. It`s a small percentage of the cases and most of the time the video doesn`t show the whole situation. Most (not all) of the clips in this video were dead wrong, I`m not supporting them (except for the first one... you try to assault a cop with a weapon and I`d expect you to be shot). But you can`t call this kind of thing an every-time occurrence, or say that it is always unjustified based one some shaky, 30 second clip of only the beating.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Thugs in uniform.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Wow.. that was some crazy stuff!
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    and this my friends is why you take boxing lessons. when they rip you outta your car for weed you can actually win a 2 on 1 fight... until they shoot you.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    They are the embodiment of the government they work for. They show the culture more honestly than the politicians they work under, that in turn work under the corporations. They don`t give a poo about you, just your money.
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    tatervent Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    Now go watch COPS....

    idiots.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Love this video.
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    gHousewater Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    I cant believe the comments Im reading. People saying the cops are doing there jobs and so on and the camera only records what the cops do bla bla bla. You blind idiots. Watch the clip where the man crashes and is ejected from his car. He couldve been dead. They didnt check. They just beat him. What if they were beating a corps? Is that the America you wan to live in. No wonder how Hitler rose to power because people are blind and dumb like these comments im reading. This country will never rise up like Egypt or all the other revolutions around the world. The youth here are so divided and brainwashed its sickening
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    The first one looked completely justified. Everything else was fu­c­king horrifying. There is no way to justify 2 or 3 cops pinning a man down while another 4 kick him and stomp on his legs. Should be that surprising though if you`ve ever met the kind of guys who become cops.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    First one: perp threatened a cop. Suicide by cop.
    Second one: failure to comply, resisting arrest. Death by stupid.
    Guy that attacked the cop while arresting another deserved to get shot.

    While the officers did not alway act appropriately, and in many cases it devolved into brutality and hopefully resulted in loss of their job and/or prosecution, in none of these instances was an innocent person randomly attacked by an officer.

    Here`s a good idea: Don`t Piss Off A Cop. If a cop asks you to move, move. If a cop tells you to not move, don`t move. If you`re arrested for no reason, go after his job at a later time.
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    Buzzard250 Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    The guy rolls the van gets ejected and then 5 cops jump on him/ what the hell was that about? and seriously crippling that guy? what the fu ck?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    Here`s a good idea: Don`t Piss Off A Cop. If a cop asks you to move, move. If a cop tells you to not move, don`t move. If you`re arrested for no reason, go after his job at a later time.

    Although this is a little black-and-white, it`s generally good advice. About the only time I`d disobey a cop is if he`s telling me to stop recording something when I`m well within my rights to do so. If he decided to arrest me for doing this, I`d voice a complaint, but I would do so whilst being compliant.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    I suppose I should add that I singled out recording because it is something that could be used as evidence at a later time for me or the people I was recording, or even the cops if they are wrongly accused of brutality.
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    guillotine Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    First off, drat the police. The vast majority are corrupt, power hungry non-nice individuals who only got their job because they would be allowed to act like dicks and tell people what to do all day with no repercussions. Just like ReBoot mentioned, I know a few people who decidied to become police and they are the total dicks who enjoy being dicks. To MeGrendel, you can piss a cop off all day (as long as its legal). It is their job to remain objective and only follow the letter of the law. If they taze you and beat you because they had a bad day, they should be stripped of their badge and gun, the only thing that gives them their attitudes, and put behind bars with all the people they beat on over the course of their corrupt career.
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    When they say "To serve and protect" they really mean `To serve themselves and protect their self-interest"

    @MeGrendel Its not about don`t piss off a cop. Its about the law. A cop`s word is not law. His fist and gun aren`t the law either. They should only be used to uphold the laws, not create new ones on the spot out of spite.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    in none of these instances was an innocent person randomly attacked by an officer

    Yes but they didn`t include a video where a bicyclist got knocked off his bike.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    February 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    Most cop where bullies in school. Dose any of this surprise anyone?
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    frnttrndy Male 50-59
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    February 6, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    Prisons have 4 sets of Gangs Black, White, Brown,and Blue. Only the blue are alowed to have weapons
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Here are some simple rules to live by:
    1. if a policeman points gun at you and says`drop your weapon` drop your weapon.
    2. do not make the police chase you. if you do this they are likely to bring an ass kicking with them.
    3. do not break the law. this includes resisting arrest. The police are armed with numerous weapons they can use to subdue lawbreakers.
    4. if you are being wrongly arrested go quietly and file your complaints through a lawyer. the police have a tough job and will make mistakes sometimes and you will be compensated if this is the case.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 6, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    RuralNinja-"Its not about don`t piss off a cop"

    It doesn`t matter what it`s `about`. It`s still a good idea not to piss off a cop.

    RuralNinja-"A cop`s word is not law."

    At no point did I say it was.

    RuralNinja-"His fist and gun aren`t the law either."

    I generally make it a point not to piss off ANYone with a gun. Is this something you would suggest?

    RuralNinja-"They should only be used to uphold the laws"

    With this I agree. I also agree a woman should be able to walk down a street butt-naked without getting mollested and that a guy should be able to wear a KKK hood in the middle of Harlem without fear for his life.

    But not of these bear any resemblence to reality. A cop is a person. And just like most people, you`ll run into most that are great, and some that are idiots.

    Again, don`t piss off a cop. He might not be a nice one.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 6, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Cajun247-"Yes but they didn`t include a video where a bicyclist got knocked off his bike."

    That`s why I said `these` instances. Obviously there are situation where innocent people were harrassed, beaten or killed by cops.

    I`ve never said cops were flawless. I just said it`s not a good idea to piss off a cop, a person with human failings and a gun.

    frnttrndy-"Only the blue are alowed to have weapons"

    So you think it`s a good idea for convicted felons to have access to weapons?

    som-tam-"Here are some simple rules to live by: "

    Great rules. Following them will minimize the chance of you getting beat by a cop.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    February 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    som-tam

    bullcrap, the police never have a right to abuse people for any reason.

    yes you should comply with the police but the police should not be allowed to get away with abuse of person and abuse of rights.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    So you think it`s a good idea for convicted felons to have access to weapons?

    I think he was referring to the gaurds (though I think it`s typically "khaki").
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    If you`re a police officer, doing your job right, you should have no issue with someone filming. That ANY percentage of the populace are afraid of the police, to me, is unacceptable.

    I don`t know what kind of person thinks "policing" gives them a right to be bullies.

    This video is not an exaggeration (though maybe a bit over-dramatic)
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    Following them will minimize the chance of you getting beat by a cop.

    I hate to say it, but you can only take that so far. If you got widespread corruption (or some other form of systematic malfeasance) long enough the state would have a full-blown insurrection on its hands. Either that or you`ll have groups formed to police the police with extreme methods (a la Black Panthers), not that I praise such a group mind you.
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    Orchideous Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    THIS MAKES ME ANGRY
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    Never Been Truer than NOW
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    The gov`ment, in concert with the police unions, will simply stop allowing You Tube to post police brutality videos.

    Problem solved...for them.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 6, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    P.S. "black america" this and "black america" that. How about "poor america". Hispanics and crackers in the south have known about police abuses. Let`s not make it a "black" thing.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 6, 2012 at 6:41 pm
    jamie76-"police never have a right to abuse people for any reason."

    And criminals never have a right to shoot, abuse or beat a cop, either. Doesn`t stop it from happening.

    Criminals never have a right to shoot, abuse or beat ANYone, but it happens.

    And the reality is that controlling some criminals require a beatdown and/or lethal force to insure the safety of officers and the public in general.

    Case here this week. A criminal who was peacefully aprehended and all his rights were carefully observed, stabbed and murdered the officer escorting him to the docket room with his ghetto necklace containing a razorblade, stole the cop car, rammed his way out of the jail garage and fled. After a brief chase and after a standoff putting the public in danger, the criminal trash is now in satisfactory condition (i.e. dead).
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    C_Frost Male 30-39
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    February 6, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    every single person in this video got what they deserved. including the first WHITE guy who got killed.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 6, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    C Frost "every single person in this video got what they deserved."
    Including the guy who was just riding his motorcycle with a helmet cam. Didn`t do anything at all. Stopped for no reason by a plain clothes cop with no ID showing. Was not arrested for any crime other than recording the police.

    What did he do? To have felony arrests on his record? his property seized? His bank account drained by legal fees defending himself from the cops?
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    Zuthilios Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    I couldn`t watch past the 2:40 mark. This is just too sad.
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    xelous Male 18-29
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    February 6, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    A-Holes on power trips.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2012 at 1:07 am
    Considering there are tens of thousands of police arrests per day, in America, and the vast majority happen without incident, there are very very few, per day, that require the police to use any force at all.

    These sort of incidents do NOT `happen daily` as the narrator claimed. Many times the camera doesn`t catch the suspects actions that provoked the police reaction.

    Sometimes the police do go overboard, but it`s a rare occasion. This video tries to smear all police with the same brush and that`s unfair.
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    teknollag Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 1:07 am
    This gives me chills. It`s utterly appalling.
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    rl1 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 5:04 am
    CrakrJak, thank you for being one of the few people on here with common sense. People don`t have to like the cops (I don`t) but still respect that they get crap pay for a dangerous job. And before anyone says `That`s what they signed up to do`, realize that saying also applies to gas station clerks getting robbed, taxi driver`s getting in wrecks, fast food workers getting burned, and teachers getting beat up by kids. `It`s all part of the job`, though a very small part that we all know will happen.
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    SoCal Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 5:11 am
    lol i see the black guys and punks getting beat up and i just see criminals getting what they deserve, i would do the same to the black guys that stole my catalytic converter last week or broke into my car 2 weeks before that. Not all cops are bad.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 5:20 am
    if i had cancer, or i knew i was gonna die soon i think id get a gun and just start shooting every one of these drating non-nice individuals i seen. these (peace keepers) are nothing but goddamn scum. and if your a cop and you read this i hope more then any wish ive ever had in my life that you get shot by some non-nice individual drug dealer and leave a wife and kids behind to be raped by said drug dealer. cops are EVIL Pigs. the end. Freedom of drating speech.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 7, 2012 at 5:57 am
    If you`re a police officer, doing your job right, you should have no issue with someone filming. That ANY percentage of the populace are afraid of the police, to me, is unacceptable.

    I remember when I was a teenager, when a student told an officer that he was always scared and nervous when police were around. The officer looked at him kindly and said "If you aren`t doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about." I guess it works both ways, yes?
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    illios Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 7:10 am
    Crakrjak - Considering there are tens of thousands of police arrests per day, in America, and the vast majority happen without incident, there are very very few, per day, that require the police to use any force at all.

    These sort of incidents do NOT `happen daily` as the narrator claimed. Many times the camera doesn`t catch the suspects actions that provoked the police reaction.

    Sometimes the police do go overboard, but it`s a rare occasion. This video tries to smear all police with the same brush and that`s unfair.

    This.

    As for Fleaman1797, You do that, I`ll laugh my ass off when then people you hate most take you down.
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    gary8162 Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Once again I have to point out, not all cops are like this. It is only a handful. Just like not all priests are pedophiles, not all Germans are Nazi`s, and so on.
    Granted, this video, and others like it, show a terrible side of police officers but that`s because this is the stuff that makes news. No one would get upset if it showed them responding to an emergency call where a home invasion just happened or a ticket is being issued. They`re doing a tough job that HAS to be done. They deserve our respect and our cooperation.
    That said, they also need to have someone watching them as well for the rare times when they do get out of hand.
    Oh, and Fleaman1797. You are way out of line with that rhetoric. I truly hope the IAB mods ban you for your comments.
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    Ffoulkes Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2012 at 7:58 am
    Now show all the film (and there is a lot of it) showing officers protecting the public, or doing things in self or other defense. This shows the bad...now, show the good.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 7, 2012 at 8:07 am

    @ CrakrJak - Your innocent perspective is my `Awww of the day`!!
    Let me guess, you are a white, heterosexual, middle class male?
    No, I don`t suppose you do see it every day.
    In other parts of town, you can see it more than once a day. Some cities are worse than others, of course.
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    Dagaz20 Female 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 9:21 am
    I know that the vast majority of police officers are not like this, but it is because there are individuals like this working the force, that my initial reaction of law enforcers is one of fear...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Dagaz20-"because there are individuals like this working the force, that my initial reaction of law enforcers is one of fear... "

    So, your fear is based on ignorance, or your `logic` leads you to be in fear of everyone you meet.
    A few cops abuse their position, so your initial reaction of law enforcers is fear.
    A few men rape and abuse women, so your intial reaction of men is fear.
    A few dogs bite people,so your initial reaction of dogs is fear.
    A few women are murders, so your initial reaction of women is fear.
    A curling iron can burn, so your initial reaction of technology is fear.

    Tell us, how does it feel to live your life in fear?

    If your initial reaction to mena, dogs, women & technology is not fear, then your fear of cops is based on ignorance and/or what you see on tv.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    So, your fear is based on ignorance

    You missed this part:

    I know that the vast majority of police officers are not like this
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    On top of that you posit a false dichotomy
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    illios Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    @Gerry1of1 - I used to live in a crap part of town, there was a lot of crime, and people were killed on a daily basis, I`ve also been nearly hit by cross fire, and I still agree with Crakrjak.

    If people were so innocent as people here would like to believe then cops wouldn`t been needed, but that couldn`t be farther from the truth.

    This video was made to make cops looks bad, pure and simple and people see it and make the assumption that "all cops are like this" fine, now go make video of every murder, every shooting, every rape, every assault and we`ll just say "all people are like this"
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 7, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @ illios - so if a person is arrested, the police have a right to put them in the hospital? A guilty person deserves to be beaten? I thought the courts determined `guilt`. You know, that `innocent until proven guilty` thing. If the cops hand out the punnishment, by wother with courts at all?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 7, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    Gerry: I`ve been homeless before and have lived in `low-income` parts of a few towns. I`ve never seen or even heard of the police acting badly, no matter where it was. In fact it`s been the other way around, suspects injuring and even killing police officers.

    And before you accuse me of being a `goody two-shoes`, I have been arrested a few times, nothing felonious, traffic warrants mostly and one fight, but have never been treated badly.
    One officer even followed me home, let me put away my groceries, so they wouldn`t spoil, and never even put me in cuffs. Why ? because I was courteous, friendly, didn`t cuss, and never raised my voice.
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    illios Male 18-29
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    February 7, 2012 at 10:30 pm
    @Gerry1of1 - innocent until proven guilty doesn`t apply to the process of being detained, it applies to your sentence and to what length you will be held, a police officer can not throw you in jail for X amount of years at his own free will.

    If a person does something against the law and deceides that they don`t want to go to jail so they run, refuse the officer or fight the officer, Etc then YES police then do have the ability to use force, yes a FEW take this step way too far, but a majority do not.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 7, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    We EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE me!
    I guess my experience with the police has been less positive than ya`lls.

    My dad was the town sherrif for a while when I was a kid. Needless to say I was brought up in a home where law enforcement were respected, trusted. But my interaction with police as an adult has made me distrustful of them. Complete turnaround from the way I was raised and due entirely to their poor conduct.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2012 at 12:21 am
    I`m surprised people aren`t shooting police officers on sight.
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    avail9988 Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2012 at 12:39 am
    There not cops there thugz with badges. One video like that and the officer would be sacked here. How can he get away with hitting that guy in the leg with the baton.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2012 at 2:23 am
    The first clip of this video, the Carls Jr. shooting, shouldn`t be on here. That was a completely justified shooting. The rest of the videos however, were disgusting.
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    Dutch-Master Male 18-29
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    February 8, 2012 at 3:02 am
    Like Tupac once said, the cops are gangbangers themself
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    Amurika Male 30-39
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    February 8, 2012 at 3:18 pm
    Well we certainly need law enforcement because unfortunately there is always that one phucktard that ruins it for everybody. On another note, they put cameras on every street corner now days but now its almost a crime to film a public servant. They get all hot and bothered, which basically gives away a guilty conscious. Public Servant: look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, "Am I going to be a filthy scumbag fascist today?" Would you like me to put my knee in your back and twist your arms. How about some pepper spray? Can I come over and kick your door in and arrest your family and maybe shoot your family pet? How do you like to be the person that nobody likes?
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    Firebee Female 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    Made my blood boil.
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    SunThunder Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2012 at 9:51 am
    While you do have the right to record the police, do you need to upload it to youtube? If there is a case use it as evidence, but pasting it all over the internet?
    As a side note; protect and serve,yes but lawfull citizens, not criminals. Im not however defending police brutality with that statement, just posting a thought.
    Another thought, the police and other athourities are just humans and will make mistakes, but they should be held accountable for those mistakes as they hold greater athority over others.

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