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Date: 02/26/12 09:21 AM

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  1. Profile photo of 3MM@
    3MM@ Female 13-17
    256 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:21 am
    Link: Just On The Night Shift At Work, No Big Deal - A bigger-than-usual photo of what has to be one of the most difficult jobs in the world.
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    Raicuparta Male 18-29
    137 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:29 am
    They take naps while flying, can`t be that hard.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:29 am
    NOOOOO problem there. The regional carriers pay new pilots $18K a year, so we`re all in good hands. (See the Frontline report "Flying Cheap" if you haven`t.)
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    carmanut Male 18-29
    76 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:29 am
    I`m just gonna set my coffee down an- Whoops, hit the "fly-straight-down" button!
  5. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:34 am
    "...what has to be one of the most difficult jobs in the world"

    Balls. When nothing serious goes wrong (and vital systems of these modern airliners are incredibly reliable, with expectation times between failure around 200,000 hours for modern engines - that`s over 20 years) that is not a difficult job. Follow SOPs until you get to the hotel bar. Pretty much have SOPs even when you get to the bar!

    Try the job I did until recently - same as they do, only single-crew with piston engines and no FMS flying at 10,000 feet with freight in the back. I now have turbine engines, rather more reliable, powerful and flexible, more freight, and occasionally a First Officer but otherwise still the same.

    That picture is of a rather old aircraft, probably a 747-200. The main instruments are mechanical not CRTs.
  6. Profile photo of Sectsktn
    Sectsktn Female 30-39
    173 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:37 am
    so where`s the cup holder? and where do you put the emergency stash of M&M`s?
  7. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Not that hard to be a pilot. Follow checklists, listen to ATC`s directions, try to land, taxi, repeat.

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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3282 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:45 am
    I often wonder what percentage of those knobs and dials and buttons they actually use during an uneventful flight.
  9. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:46 am
    The popular thought that being a pilot is difficult, demanding and cool is probably what makes most pilots act like they`re better than everyone around them, despite the fact ATC does most of their work for them, and despite the fact the maintenance crew does all the upkeep for their aircraft.

    ATC tells the aircraft where they will go (way points, jet routes, navaids) and how (speed and altitude) and ATC even tells them how to taxi to the runway, and when to take-off, and the pilot has to report when going from one zone (FIR in Canada) to another so ATC can tell them how to fly.

    Yet the pilots acts holier than thou.

    And the maintenance crews have their own special relationship with pilots, usually one of sarcasm at pilot`s stupidity.
  10. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:54 am
    Secsktn

    I don`t know about a 747, but the old King Air I fly has cup holders under the instrument panel by the Captain`s right knee or FO`s left.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:55 am
    "I often wonder what percentage of those knobs and dials and buttons they actually use during an uneventful flight."

    Well, the gauges are engine pressure, altitude, speed, gas, oil, etc.. A bunch of important stuff. So all of them should be used.

    The buttons will turn on and off many systems, things like landing lights and many other things.

    The knobs will be used to select things, like IFF Mode 3 Transponder code, radio frequencies (some are always on such as 121.5 or 243.0, but others need to change as you go from one sector to another to talk to different IFR controllers), altimeter settings.

    Levers are for throttle, flaps, landing gear and other things.

    In general I would say 75% is used on an uneventful flight
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
    1674 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:15 am
    hey, i mastered landing my jet onto the aircraft carrier in top gun for the NES. This here should be a piece of cake.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:18 am
    I`d love to be a pilot.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
    1244 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Batmanners, go take a hike. Airline pilots are highly trained and despite your comments I think you would find it difficult to fly a paper plane let alone a massive and highly complex machine such as an A380 or 747. A lot of those dials and buttons represent redundant safety systems, a fairly small percentage of those controls will be used on every flight.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
    1526 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:47 am
    Yeah, lot of buttons. If I had a specific button for every function in computer programs I use. poo would also look complex as drat.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:47 am
    @Rick_S
    well like a third of it is just redundant so both of them can easily view at the same time
  17. Profile photo of jerboa
    jerboa Female 18-29
    14 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 11:08 am
    My ex was a commercial pilot. He slept on most of his journeys.
  18. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 11:22 am
    ooo look at those knobs and buttons.
  19. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 11:48 am
    A 747 is one of the most complicated machines ever devised for one (or two) people to control. If you only knew the amount of hours it demands to take a pilot`s seat in one.
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    Arcval Male 18-29
    304 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 12:30 pm
    It`s not that hard to learn to fly one, it take 1 year full time to get a comercial license and then a 4 week course to learn to fly any individual piece of equipment (eg: a 747 or a 737)
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    42467 Male 18-29
    743 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    Don`t get me wrong, it`s nowhere near easy to fly a plane, especially a 747. However, it isn`t as hard as it`s put out to be
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
    3336 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    the computer does most of the work
  23. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    Arcval: No airline company will let a 1 year pilot, even with 747 training, fly one. It takes years of experience for an airline to trust a pilot enough to fly any "heavy" aircraft.
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    number1man Male 13-17
    240 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    looks difficult...but it`s not exactly brain surgery.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3908 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 4:10 pm
    Nothing wrong with that. Like everyone else said there`s a lot that goes into learning how to fly a plane like that. I had to take a little puddle jumper flight to get to a base on a small island years ago. It was a little 8 seater and 9 people were there for the flight. Since I was in my "Service Alpha" uniform (USMC) the pilot looks at me and says "Well, you look like I can trust you, you`ll be my co-pilot for this flight, just don`t touch anything!" So, I actually sat in the co-pilot seat and I noticed for take-offs & landings there was a little cheat sheet attached to the sun visor on the plane that he flipped down and went through.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
    3061 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 4:32 pm

  27. Profile photo of gothmo
    gothmo Female 18-29
    1324 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    mythbusters did a bit about being able to talk someone through a landing. turns out, on a simulation at least, it`s a pretty horrible thing to have to do but can be done
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    tehbionic Female 18-29
    313 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    Successful trolls are successful.
  29. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4006 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 5:21 pm
    "let alone a massive and highly complex machine such as an A380 or 747"

    As we all know, beginner pilots start out on those. Obviously it is a complex job. But that doesn`t change the fact it is very easy and most of the decision making, on a day-to-day basis is made for them. Their job is to memorize checklists of what to do when "it" hits the fan. Memorizing engine start checklists, pre-taxi checklists, taxi checklists, about to take off checklists, take-off checklists is what an airline pilot`s job consists of.
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    CoffeeTalk Male 40-49
    193 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    Most of those buttons are for manual overrides in case the auto function isn`t working. Most of the gauges just need to be checked pre-flight and a few times during the flight. I wouldn`t recommend spilling a cup of coffee on them but the pilot generally doesn`t have to be concerned with the majority of them.
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    bridog6996 Male 18-29
    571 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 6:36 pm
    Learning to become a pilot is difficult. Once you become one, it`s my understanding that you could basically die mid-flight in the roosterpit and the plane would still land itself. Ironic? Yes.
  32. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    @Batmanners: Are you sure you didn`t lose a former girlfriend to a pilot? A certain air traffic controller seems to have a pilot chip on his shoulder. ~Squrlz looks around innocently~
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2106 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    and THAT`S why I drive.
  34. Profile photo of LadyMorgue
    LadyMorgue Female 30-39
    1516 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 9:41 pm
    Eh... my Uncle is a pilot and he never once mentioned anything about it being difficult... even during his training.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:13 pm
    bridog6996 did NOT write "roosterpit" for Chrissakes. Let`s do a little test:
    To rooster the gun, use your thumb on the hammer.
    Cock-a-doodle-doo!
    He sure is roostersure of himself.
    I found a roosterleshell.
    There`s a spitcock on the trumpet.
    It warms the roosterles of my heart.
    Do you like Joe roosterer?
    Okay, let`s post it and see what happens.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    That`s pathetic. Any word that merely starts with CEE-OH-CEE-KAY is automatically changed to rooster. Really Fancy? That`s mature?
  37. Profile photo of Edgarska19
    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
    1045 posts
    February 26, 2012 at 10:54 pm
    From my understanding(a friend`s dad is a pilot) it isn`t as hard as it looks since most of it is automatized.
    Not trying to make it look like less,as I`m sure it takes skill to fly one, but maybe it gets easier after a while.
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    Flibmeister Female 18-29
    833 posts
    February 27, 2012 at 12:16 am
    c o c kpit. nice.
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    deutza92 Female 18-29
    99 posts
    February 27, 2012 at 4:56 am
    wow... what a view...
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    cobra240 Male 30-39
    77 posts
    February 27, 2012 at 5:28 am
    Thats an amazing view and yeah all those switches and lights look overwhelming but I have spent years inside c.o.c.kpits and can say its really not that overwhelming. Each panel of switches are grouped for a certain function so you really only train your mind to think of that area for whatever function you are trying to accomplish. After you picture that panel you eventually instinctly can tell where each switch is. They are also laid out to where the most comonly used switches are easiest to reach when your hand naturally rests on that panel.
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    EVILLECUTTER Male 18-29
    244 posts
    February 27, 2012 at 9:41 am
    a good friend of mine used to be a captain - he said the pilot is the only one who actually does anything and that consists of about 45 seconds of actual flying per flight - the take off and most of the landing is controlled by the autopilot - that`s why they dont get paid very well anymore (just like a robot taking over at an industrial plant) and when something does go wrong the plane is rarely saved
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    RAGEMONSTER Male 18-29
    422 posts
    February 27, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    1970 called... They want there technology back.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    February 28, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    CrakrJak

    It is rare, but I have a friend who was flying a 747 about a year after finishing his Commercial Pilot`s Licence.

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