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Date: 02/09/12 02:34 PM

58 Responses to How To Live Without Money

  1. Profile photo of CaptKangaroo
    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Link: How To Live Without Money - Many people are learning to live sustainably, without money. What are the pros and cons?
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    YugureKage Female 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Interesting. In theory, I would love to live like this. In reality, it would be really hard. I don`t think I could do it.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm
    1. dirty dirty hippies
    2. go do this out in the wilderness, not in a populated area. see how quickly they miss civilization.
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    RocketMan001 Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    That`s not eco-living. That`s scavenging. If they grew their own food instead of dumpster diving, that would be an eco-living community.
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    jpete Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    OWS losers.
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    DOUBLE_L7 Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    Where is my Slayer CD
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    comestible Female 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Firstly, its great they can work together and have a peaceful, happy community. But everything they are doing is just rubbish. They say they`re eco-friendly, which by reusing and not using power, by default technically they are. On the other hand though, they`re just living off other people`s hard work!
    They said they go through the garbage, thrown out (I`m assuming) by grocery stores to get their food. That isn`t living in a sustainable fashion, that is mooching off the system. Now I am not saying it is okay for the stores to be throwing that food out, I am a firm believer that anything the stores are going to throw out they should donate to the food bank.
    If they were growing their own food (which they aren`t) and using only that which they make I would be less critical of them. If everyone in the world began right now to live as they do, within 48 hours we would be hooped.
    There is a positive message to be heard through what they are doing, but they need to execute it
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    I`m interested to know how they intend to pay for the electricity for the `cinema` and lights in that room?
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    Frickin` hippies.
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    danagamer Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    yeah, it`s called Burning Man
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    It`s OK people I`ve got this everyone crank it up!!!!! God that guitar intro is sweet!!
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    earthshone Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    Pigtail girl is David gilmour incarnate.. Circa 1978
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    botfly Male 50-59
    616 posts
    February 9, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    Human roosterroaches
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    InTheNameOf Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    dirty hippies need a bath.
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    smaus Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    sooo now it`s in style to live life like you`re homeless... I think I`ll stick with helping my mother can stuff from her 3 acre garden every year to cut down on food costs
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    People like this are only alive at the sufferance of those who actually contribute to society.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    "They said they go through the garbage, thrown out (I`m assuming) by grocery stores to get their food. That isn`t living in a sustainable fashion, that is mooching off the system."

    So you`d rather the food to just remain garbage instead of having people eat it? It gets thrown out because it`s past the date where it`s illegal to sell it (and I assume it`s not legal to give that to a food bank too), so they pick it up and eat it instead of letting it go to waste.

    There have been times in my life where we were really broke and had to do things like this for food. Well, we never got food from garbage bins. But my mom would go up to certain stores right when they were about to throw out food, and ask for it. They gave it to her completely for free. I don`t see what`s wrong with it when it`s going to get tossed anyway.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    Live without money? Sure, see how long that`ll last ya. Money isn`t evil, ya dumb hippies. It`s a storehouse of value, makes transactions quicker and easier, and allows for proper allocation of resources based on prices.
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    Freyr108 Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    I wouldn`t mind "living without money" but not htier way, my way would be to save up my money first to build an eco hosue
    Electricity and heating can be provided via solar panels and wind turbines, sewage would lead to a reed pond which will eventually filter it out, and a garden where I can grow my veggies and done!
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
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    February 9, 2012 at 4:07 pm
    that`s what they call squatters now? they all look so filthy. where is this electricity coming from? and the lights. how about their clothes? medical? whose land is that?

    if you have nothing, then i guess it`s ok to have a floppy curtain shower outside in the leaves. but if you have money?

    how about sanitation and running water? where does that poo hole go? and when it fills? what about those urine soaked hay bales, where do those go? wouldn`t it just kill everything living in the end?
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    kangoala Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    So it`s like camping, only without the fun parts.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    Communes have been tried before, all eventually collapse for various reasons.

    In any case this is not self-sustainable living if they are mooching off their capitalist surroundings.
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    Flashpacker Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    @PhotoKing
    I`m sorry to say this bro... But with this attitude, u won`t last very long when the poo hits the fan..
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    As I watched the video, I said to myself, "She has the hairiest legs and pits ever."

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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    "they all look so filthy"
    Aye, thats normal. Its because they arent constantly 100% clean.
    Its only recently that its become normal to wash yourself at least once each day. A while ago, people used to only was about once a week, except if they were especially dirty for some reason.
    And with clean water becoming more and more precious, it isnt likely to go on for very long either.
    Using over 100 liters of tapwater per person per day just for personal hygiene might keep you super clean, but in the end its just not sustainable.
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    fancythat Male 30-39
    1950 posts
    February 9, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    This sort of moneyless society is comin`. Not from the hippies, but instead from the bankers. Once they drive the value of the dollar below that of toilet paper, it`ll become just that. Have fun farming, motherdraters!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @ morimacil123 - this planet is 2/3rd water. There is no shortage. That myth is just another way of squeezing the populace.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    Hobo camps like that get bulldozed by the city right away over here.
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    ilurk Female 18-29
    220 posts
    February 9, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    I would have mad respect for these people if they actually made their own stuff... Made their clothes, grew their own food, made their own shelters. That would be impressive to me but a few people who just take free handouts and live off other`s work isn`t that special.
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    ilurk Female 18-29
    220 posts
    February 9, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    @Freyr108
    They have that. Out in the desert Somewhere in the Western US. I`m trying to google search it to find it but they build the homes almost 100% recycled material, tires, glass bottles, everything. Only thing new is the solar panels for entergy. The water collected from the rain is used for drinking, then shower, then water the plants, then toliet water. They look funny on the outside but are pretty amazing. If I find a link I`ll post it.
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    ilurk Female 18-29
    220 posts
    February 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm
    http://earthship.com/
  32. Profile photo of CaptainPabst
    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    February 9, 2012 at 9:15 pm
    Major pro: not being apart of the bullsh*t materialistic western machine
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    February 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    repost
  34. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 9, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    So stylishly homeless is something to admire now?
    Something to aspire to?

    We are doomed.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14621 posts
    February 10, 2012 at 12:14 am
    Thankfully 99.9999`% of society does not live like that or we`d be totally fooked.

    You need a kidney transplant. Oh, I`ll stop by the free organs table and borrow a blunt knife.
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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
    653 posts
    February 10, 2012 at 1:33 am
    NO! This not a an answer, this is being lazy. People have been there and then they progressed because it`s sh*t.
    And you are not independent at all, you still need clothes, medical care, transportation, police, firefighters....
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    February 10, 2012 at 2:58 am
    "@ morimacil123 - this planet is 2/3rd water. There is no shortage. That myth is just another way of squeezing the populace."
    yes, 2/3rds of the planet is indeed water, but it is mostly saltwater.
    If you were to take showers and baths in saltwater (without using harmful chemicals as soap or shampoo ofc), that would not be an issue.
    Go swimming in the sea all day, its not an issue.

    The issue is when you take clean, drinkable water (which half the human population lacks), and then use hundreds of liters of that to clean yourself, and pollute it at the same time, so its afterwards no longer drinkable.
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    Squidbush Male 40-49
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    February 10, 2012 at 3:24 am
    All I could thing through the entire video was "HOLD THE #$(*&^ CAMERA STILL!!"
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    February 10, 2012 at 3:31 am
    Squatters living in a dump; now that`s progress. I bet they all smell just great, too. 8-P
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 5:56 am
    @morimacil123

    Sand filtrationz how do it workz???
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    kinky_afr0 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2012 at 6:22 am
    anyone else read anal ternative life
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 7:21 am
    Sand filtrationz how do it workz???
    It works by separating out foreign material that is larger than the pore size created by the sand. Unfortunately, no kind of filtration can remove dissolved particles like salt. If the type of sand you used was SiO2, some of the Na would adhere to it, but not enough to remove the 3.5% or so salt content of sea water. The only effective method of free, no-energy-input desalination is distillation, which is horribly inefficient.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2012 at 10:39 am
    lol what a joke. they live off a throw away society.. if they actually had to survive in the woods somewhere.. these people would be eatin by a bear in no time flat
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2012 at 11:03 am
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 11:46 am
    RO removes salt. How is something that is "no-energy-input" "horribly inefficient"? It`s just slow without good engineering.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 11:48 am
    green is right, these are just gleaners
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    k
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    February 10, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    Oh what fun, let`s live like slum dwellers for a while.

    People who have to live like that tend to see it as something to escape from, not aspire to.

    But they don`t seem to be doing any harm and I wouldn`t want to see then hassled for no good reason. Let them get on with it.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    RO removes salt. How is something that is "no-energy-input" "horribly inefficient"? It`s just slow without good engineering.
    RO isn`t filtration. If you have a community their size of around 20 people, each needing roughly 1.8 liters of water per day, you essentially need 36 liters of water per day. To distill water, you need to boil it. Assuming ambient temp of 23 degrees C, you need to raise the water`s temp by 80 degrees to boil (at sea level). The rule of thumb regarding turning the whole liter of water to steam is 10 times the time it takes it to reach a boil. So the equation looks like: 80 x 4200 x 1 x 10 (80 degrees x 4200 Joules to raise one kg of water one degree x 1 kg x 10 to make it all steam). So you need 3.36 million Joules to distill one liter of water, and after you make 36 L, you need 1.21 x 10^8 J all together.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    Your basic RO unit will need 2.5 kWh/m3 to run. So to make 1000 L (1 m3) of water, with one kWh = 3.6 million Joules, you require 2.5 kWh or 9 million Joules. RO is magnitudes more efficient than distillation, and works in a fraction of the time, hence distillation is inefficient.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 10, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    And before you point out that I said "no-energy-input", at the time I was referring to no electricity.
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    EVILLECUTTER Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    this is great until someone gets raped
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    airsofter1 Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm
    "maybe if we got some lights..." nuff said
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    degravenous Male 18-29
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    February 10, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    This is not living sustainably. Taking donations and stealing thrown away food is not self-sufficient. These people are parasites, living off of people who do spend the money to import food from farm lands. Just because they don`t spend money doesn`t mean that the rest of the world could take a lesson.
    Also, the reason why communism will ALWAYS fail is because there`s no incentive to rise above mediocrity. There`s no reason to be a doctor or engineer or ANYTHING that requires effort, study, and thought. If a janitor is paid the same as a surgeon, who is going to want to go through all the school necessary to operate on people?
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    February 11, 2012 at 4:40 am
    That`s a pretty cool idea. I couldn`t do it permanently, but I`d try it for a week.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    February 11, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    anyone else read anal ternative life
    Yeah. Now we know what they`re trading to get all the stuff they need to survive.

    You can also go to their other web site, oralternativelife.com.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    February 13, 2012 at 6:39 am
    If a janitor is paid the same as a surgeon, who is going to want to go through all the school necessary to operate on people?

    Communism fail. In a communist society all people aren`t paid the same. Read some communist theory then come back.
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    Bountykat Female 18-29
    399 posts
    February 16, 2012 at 9:40 am
    I like to buy things.

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