5-Year-Old Boy Is A Transsexual: Lives As A Girl

Submitted by: Flibmeister 5 years ago in

Zach is one of the youngest people to be dignosed with GID in the UK. Too young to know, I-A-B?
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Male 598
how come all the trannys i meet are crosseyed and fuggletoothed?
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Male 2,424
Blllaararrrrggghghhh.... spittle...
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Male 1,008
@ lawndartsftw << this >>
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Male 43
On that note, frankly I`d question the ethics and professionalism of any doctor willing to perform "sex change" operations. I`m all for letting people do what they like in their personal lives, but doctors have an obligation to behave ethically and do what`s best for their patient. Mutilating people for a fee doesn`t seem all that ethical to me, no matter how much the patient wants it. It doesn`t matter how much you turn that penis inside-out and make it look like a vagina, that birth certificate is still gonna say male.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Anyone delusional enough to want to mutilate their genitalia needs serious psychological help[/quote]

Not so much, they need someone to step in before they hurt themselves irreparably. Given proper tools and a professional they can be "switched" without causing permanent physical damage. But before they go through such a serious surgery they everyone concerned needs to be reassured that potential patient has given the prospect serious thought.
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Male 43
I`m not saying it isn`t normal to want to dress up as the opposite sex, since clearly a large number of people enjoy it across the world. What isn`t normal, however, is to believe that you are in fact a member of the opposite sex despite glaring evidence to the contrary. It`s clearly a serious mental problem, especially considering the fact the kid tried to chop off his own dick. It`s an issue that should be treated, not indulged. Anyone delusional enough to want to mutilate their genitalia needs serious psychological help, not a bunch of people telling them it`s normal and that they really were born into the wrong body.
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Female 47
Double post;
also, the kid might get picked on, but I find children are a lot more open to these kinds of things...

older kids, maybe. But they probably wouldn`t know unless they knew him before.
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Female 47
"Delusions like that should be dealt with as soon as possible, not indulged and told it`s normal."

Nearly all transgendered people claim feeling the wrong gender since childhood; are you insinuating that being transgendered isn`t "normal"?

Let`s say for sake of argument that the child is not transgendered; let`s say this is all just a phase and he`ll grow up and completely grow out of it. So what? Who cares if he wants to dress and live as a girl; why would you keep your child under such scrutiny because of a completely social thing? I hate children, yes, really, but I still think they should be treated fairly.

Repressing the behavior isn`t going to change it. And his was severe. I highly doubt this kid is going to grow up feeling any differently because a lot of transgendered feel the same exact way, at the same exact age, as he does. I`m not transgendered but you don`t need to be one to know this. Educate yourselves.
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Male 43
Saying these kids "know" at an early age that they`re the wrong gender is just ridiculous. They THINK they`re the wrong gender. Delusions like that should be dealt with as soon as possible, not indulged and told it`s normal.

P.S. yusuksomuch wins comment of the day IMO
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Female 2,674
"Do people only remember that far back if they have something traumatic to remember? It`s not like I`ve chemically damaged my brain. "

I have scattered memories from as far back as 3 years. It`s hard for me to tell if some things are memories or if they`re from videos (so anything I know that we have a video of the situation, I disregard the memory). My earliest was when my mom`s friend was pregnant with my friend when I was 3. Not traumatic at all. I also remember the crushes I had at young ages and when my mom read my "diary" about how my neighbor "was so cut" in kindergarten. I`m guessing it`s more likely to stick if it`s something that continued to happen though. 3 year old knows they`re the wrong gender, still knows at 4, still knows at 5, etc. They`ll be able to tell how long they`ve known because of how it affected them.
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Female 2,674
@Gerry - You didn`t finish reading what I wrote, or chose to ignore the rest of it. If he isn`t made fun of for this, he`d just be made fun of for something else, so that`s why that argument doesn`t stand. And the kids don`t seem to have a problem with it. The more they`re exposed to it, the more likely they`ll just see it as normal and not give him poo for it.
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Male 1,393
Someone needs to find the parents, the doctor and a dummy stick for their heads.
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Male 1,737
I feel bad for the kid, sounds to me like another parent doesn`t want to talk to their kid so they pawn it off on a Doctor who could care less about you or your kid and will just give you pills so you`ll leave him alone. I`m not kidding, the worse case is with ADD and similar, parents don`t want to handle their children so they tell the Doctor there`s something wrong that isn`t there fault, and they have to fix it now.
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Male 1,810
@yusuksomuch. vv this vv
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Male 3,364
AvatarJohn: "Is there no such thing as mental illness anymore? EVERYTHING is normal, everything is fine I guess, even what once would have been called severe mental illness only a few short years ago. We just accommodate it, pretend there`s nothing wrong and move on."


There also was a time when boys would be institutionalized if they were caught masturbating. Science has made advances in understanding how and why we do what we do.
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Male 1,268
"Trans people almost universally report an awareness of being the wrong gender for their bodies at age four or five."

I`m sure this is entirely possible, but I can`t acknowledge it as being so because I have zero memories that far back. Is that strange? I mean, I don`t think I really have any legitimate memories earlier than, say, fourth grade. I always find it odd when anyone talks about how things were when they were still tiny children, all I remember from that far back was "Life was good. I went to school. I had food and a home."

Do people only remember that far back if they have something traumatic to remember? It`s not like I`ve chemically damaged my brain.

Either way, more people should watch "The Riches" on netflix.
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Male 1
Whoever Zach grows up to be, one thing is certain: He`s going to always know that his parents love and support him uncondtionally.

They`re letting him wear pigtails and dresses, they aren`t surgically changing his genitals. Sheesh, people.
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Male 1,008
when my son was 5 he wanted to be a dinosaur, we totally supported him in this because a 5 year old obviously knows what he wants in life. now he is a healthy happy 17 year old pterodactyl who lives in a nest above the garage. Im sure it will work out fine for zach too
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Female 6,381
Trans people almost universally report an awareness of being the wrong gender for their bodies at age four or five. The big change we`re seeing is simply that parents are becoming more aware of the syndrome and more receptive to the inevitable. I suspect most trans children are still strictly forbidden to behave in any cross-gender manner on penalty of what the child sees as a loss of his/her parents` love. Most then wait decades to face the truth about themselves and make a far less satisfactory transition than they could have when they were young.
(Did a psych rotation thru the local clinic once.)
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Male 683
@nayrbarr THANK YOU!!! I hated the way this article was written. Seemed to be more on the offense against the kid than saying what was going on.
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Female 262
Did anyone notice the kid`s derp eye? Awesome sauce, I tell you.
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Male 12,365
[quote]But just because this little boy is feminine doesn`t make him a girl. Masculine and Feminine is a gender role, and are not the same as Male and Female.[/quote]

I think you`re right.

I also think he`s caught in the extremely widespread confusion between sex and gender, which attaches his gender to the other sex. So it follows that he has to identify as the other sex in order to be allowed his gender. That`s a rational response to an irrational situation.

We really need to decouple sex and gender. The only connection is *trends* and they are usually transient and social. For example, short dresses were very masculine in ancient Rome(*). Pink was a very masculine colour in Britain ~100 years ago. Etc.


* No joke - the most common form of clothing in Rome was the tunica, which was a simple dress. Short was masculine, long was feminine.
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Male 10,855
@Gerry

Well according to this article he`s well accepted at school in his girl`s outfit. If the parents are worried about bully-induced suicide then it`s up to them to find alternatives.
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Male 260
i know what he`s going through.. i am a lesbian who wants to be a man trapped in a man`s body. i am single btw ladies.
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Male 38,457

Lillian ""potentially getting made fun of" isn`t what I`d consider harmful"

Getting made fun of can drive some kids to suicide. So would class it as "harmful".
I`m not saying squash his "inner self". Let him dress as he wants at home. But put pants on to go to school. We all have a dress code at work or school. Fair or unfair is irrelevant. You have to learn to deal with unfair, too.
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Female 418
The hale
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Male 25,416
meh...
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Male 10,855
[quote]I think this is a phase. I used to eat sand when I was 5, but my parents weren`t feeding it to me saying it was okay. I agree with Gerry, the parents need to buck down a bit, at least until the child is old enough to really think out his decisions.[/quote]

Your parents didn`t intervene yet you`re saying THESE parents shoud?
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Female 2,674
My dad`s one of the "I know what`s better for you than you do" kind of parents. He tried to control which classes I took, which university I went to, what I did in my free time, my interests, etc. And I`m quite glad he had no legal say over what I did and that my mom let me make my own choices, because they generally worked out in my favor (and definitely made me much happier).

I can`t imagine what it`s like for kids who have no say and are forced to do whatever their parents want them to do. One of my friends has parents like that and she lived with her sister when she first went to college, but eventually moved back with her parents because she realized she wouldn`t even do her assignments or go to class without her parents forcing her to do it. And she`s nearly 21 now. She`s too used to them making all her decisions for her.
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Female 44
I think this is a phase. I used to eat sand when I was 5, but my parents weren`t feeding it to me saying it was okay. I agree with Gerry, the parents need to buck down a bit, at least until the child is old enough to really think out his decisions.
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Female 2,674
And consider the alternatives, Gerry. Even in the article it said he tried to cut off his penis, most likely due to being told somethings for girls only and the only thing he sees that`s making him a boy is his penis. Control everything about the kid and let him grow up hating you and hating himself, or give the kid reasonable options such as wearing whatever they want to wear and letting them grow up to be an individual?
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Female 2,674
@Gerry, I disagree. I don`t support controlling kids choices when they aren`t in any way harmful (and "potentially getting made fun of" isn`t what I`d consider harmful, considering if he`s not made fun of for one thing, it`ll be something else). Kid goes shopping with mom and only wants to buy girls clothes or only wants to get girl toys, then let him, imo.
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Male 1,678
This boys situation is no different to that of a little girl who is a bit of a tomboy. I wouldn`t be surprised if the NHS just diagnosed him with GID to get his idiot parents to leave them alone and stop wasting their time.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Parents have an obligation to teach children to survive. This "do anything you want" type of upbringing doesn`t achieve that.[/quote]

What on Earth do you mean "do anything you want" mentality? Are you seriously suggesting that his parents are teaching him irresponsibility by allowing him to wear the clothes he wants?

Then again my suggestion is that they get a second opinion.
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Male 38,457

@ LillianDulci - At age 3? No. Later choices are "Pick this pair of pants or that pair of pants". Who bought the tutu?

Parents have an obligation to teach children to survive. This "do anything you want" type of upbringing doesn`t achieve that.
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Male 365
Correction: Young girl is a transsexual, born as a boy.
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Male 10,339
Nope. Too young. Mommy wanted a girl, or attention.

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Female 3,727
I hate parents!
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Male 3,445
I think it`s sad that this discussion needs to be carried out anywhere outside of their home.
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Male 1,059
Is there no such thing as mental illness anymore? EVERYTHING is normal, everything is fine I guess, even what once would have been called severe mental illness only a few short years ago. We just accommodate it, pretend there`s nothing wrong and move on.
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Female 1,181
"too young to know"? did you even READ the article, iab? christ you guys suck.
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Female 2,674
@Gerry - Ever heard of allowing your kids to have some individuality and pick out their own clothes?
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Female 1,566
There is indeed something psychologically wrong with this child. He`s four. He tried to cut his dick off. GID is not the first thing I would jump to, but there`s something off in his head.
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Female 2,674
[quote">Too young to know, I-A-B?[/quote">

Clearly not, since he seems to already know.

Also, if you`re interested in the mindset behind GID (or gaining some compassion on the matter), read the book She`s Not There. It`s a memoir and touches on how the author knew she was really a girl on the inside since she was very little.
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Male 3,842
tl;dr = being feminine doesn`t mean he is female
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Female 833
I`m this kid`s godmother. No, seriously!
Zach has the most supportive, sensible, down to earth parents you`d ever meet. I know it seems odd saying that about a 5 year old transsexual, but it`s true. Zach is one of 4 kids. if zach chooses to be a boy again, they`ll be behind him/her, but until then, this is the safest option. there`s going to be massive backlash against her parents over this, but they are really only working for what`s best for Zach.
Love and hugs to the Avery family.
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Male 3,842
My friend`s daughter, from the age of 3, insisted she was a boy. By the age of 5 she refused to ever wear dresses, only pants, and liked to wear a baseball cap backwards. Now that she is 9 years old, she is a jock and excels at sports, still wearing the jeans, but at least she keeps her hair long.

It`s not Gender Identity Disorder, she`s not like Chaz Bono, but she is obviously going to be a lesbian when she grows up, it`s clear already. But being a butch lesbian doesn`t make her a boy. There are lots of masculine women out there, they are still women. She`s a girl.

Also, my 3 year old son already has the hots for women. My older boy, 7, is definitely straight and already wants a certain girl in his class to be his girlfriend.

There is no doubt that people are born with their orientation. But just because this little boy is feminine doesn`t make him a girl. Masculine and Feminine is a gender role, and are not the same as Male and Female.
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Male 1,268
"The Riches" was a good show. Fraking writer`s strike ruined it.

That`s all I`ve got to add to "child barely old enough to think thinks he`s a girl." Continue to do it once you`re a teenager and I`ll take notice.
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Male 1,249
THE HORROR (<--- sarcasm)
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Male 38,457

[quote]"From the age of three Zach Avery, from Purfleet, Essex, refused to live as a boy" [/quote]
A 3 year old wears what you give him. How does he get the authority over parents to decide he`s wearing a tutu instead? Sounds like this weasn`t "supported" by the parents, it was encouraged.
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Female 2,674
I hope they don`t do anything permanent or potentially harmful until he`s older, just in case it`s a phase, but I`m glad that the school is being so supportive.
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Female 457
Here`s the thing, and I`m not trying to judge their situation either way... If it`s something in their brain chemistry that is causing them to identify as the opposite sex, why is no one addressing the brain chemical portion of this. It`s like doctors are saying, "well, they must be a girl, because that is how they identify themselves." No. If you are born with male anatomy, then you are a male. The same with female anatomy. Your sexuality is what differs. Why is no one addressing the fact that their brain is telling them anything other that plain facts?
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Male 1,582
I wanted to be a superhero when I was a kid and my brother refused to be addressed by any other name than "Aladdin" or "Al".. should we have been diagnosed with mental disorders? It`s called being 5 years old. The drat!?
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Female 833
Link: 5-Year-Old Boy Is A Transsexual: Lives As A Girl [Rate Link] - Zach is one of the youngest people to be dignosed with GID in the UK. Too young to know, I-A-B?
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