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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    January 10, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Link: Time To Legalize It! Weed Not All That Bad - A 20-year federally-funded study finds that smoking marijuana weekly or daily causes no long-term lung damage.See Credit
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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm
    Happy days are here again...
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    sambo3x Female 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 3:59 pm
    doesnt work
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:02 pm
    Ha, so lung function actually INCREASED with a one-joint-a-day regimen? Well, I wonder what bullpoo reasons we`ll be hearing for keeping it illegal now. Oh, who am I kidding? Since when has reason and logic prevailed in the war on drugs?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    "However, they warned that the risks of heavy marijuana use were difficult to assess and cautioned against regular or frequent smoking."
    Meaning they couldn`t find anything bad but government funded studies insist on that sort of negative recomendation.
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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    It may not damage you physically, but a friend of mine got really paranoid after smoking weed on a tight schedule. It definitely has a worse mental effect than cigarettes.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:14 pm
    "marijuana use increases a user`s likelihood of a heart attack"

    No, that would be the bag of chips you eat after...
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    kasprague84 Female 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Alcohol is far more worse than marijuana.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    It`s the tobacco that people smoke with weed that causes the problem. I`ve known non-smokers take up cigarettes because smoking joints has got them addicted to nicotine. Not that I`m against weed or any narcotics, I think they should all be legalised, but every drug has a down side.
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    Phanthom_ Female 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Some people shouldn`t smoke weed. Like some people shouldn`t drink alcohol either...What is great for some, may not be the solution for others.
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    birdawg68 Male 40-49
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Sweet. Hoping for legalization soon. Mostly because I don`t know any dealers. But I suspect that if it is legalized it will be heavily regulated and some of the strains of higher quality would continue to be illegal. Kind of like moonshine.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    SnoopyBG i know for sure that is not like you say.Marijuana don`t create any phisical addiction like nicotine or alcohol ,is just a question of mind. If you stop to smoke marijuana you will suffer for the absence of it for few days, nothing more. Is much more difficult to stop to smoke tobacco than marijuana also cause all cigarettes are treated with substances that push you to keep smoking. Natural marijuana,not treated, don`t have this effect. So if you want to smoke just cultivate your plant to be sure to smoke natural. Don`t go around and smoke weed that come from people you don`t know, this is my only advice.
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    cluffy Male 40-49
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    January 10, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Not a word about vaporizing. MEH.
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    Smoking weed is human nature. God didn`t leave pot all over for nothing. Saying that weed should be illegal, is like saying God made a mistake.

    Now, your`e not better than God, are you?
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    faustsshadow Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    I just want to know how you do a near instantaneous roadside check to bust people smoking and driving. My friend just damn near lost his leg and will be in rehab for over a year because of some stoned kids who swerved into him.

    If it is going to be legalized, what will the `legal limits` be?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    faustsshadow instantaneous roadside check for smokers allready exist. Is a little stick that you put on your tongue and change color if you have smoked weed or hashish.
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    Slotherder Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Can someone explain to me what I`m missing here (if anything)? The study says at 20 episodes per month, there is a negative effect. How many habitual pot smokers out there don`t smoke that much? Sounds like there are people with an agenda trying to stretch some data to a conclusion that it does not naturally lead to.
    Actual Study Abstract
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    As long as there is money to be made from the war on drugs, pot will never be legal.
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    3002-3038 Female 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    can`t tell if student is trolling or not...
    anywho has anyone ever met someone whose smoked weed for a long time? sure their lungs and eyes may be fine.
    but mentally.. yeah not so much.
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    helix25 Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    I have to note that: Marijuana is not ONLY SMOKABLE. I use marijuana and I only use vaporizers or cook with it. I NEVER smoke pot, I can`t stand smoking and it`s bad.

    So, any studies which can relate to the non-smoking effects of MJ? no.
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    helix25 Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    @3002-3038, there is no long term effects on the brain caused by weed. Go and find some evidence for your argument please, then come back.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    `Dinna care `bout weed or booze, long as I got my shrooms.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    Helix25:

    Cognitive Functioning

    Although at the same time I could probably find an equal number of papers that disagree with each other on marijuana use.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    I could care less about the lungs. I heard that it can cause mental illnesses later in life like psychosis and schizophrenia
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    Another one

    Keep in mind that I`m searching only for studies that show long term mental changes. I personally feel that we need more research on the issue, because as it stands there are so many conflicting studies.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    Tatripp:

    If someone is predisposed to schizophrenia then marijuana increases the chance to:

    Develop schizophrenia
    or
    Cause a relapse

    The research I`ve found hasn`t indicated that marijuana use will cause schizophrenia unless there is already a chance of it occuring in the user.
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    helix25 Male 18-29
    165 posts
    January 10, 2012 at 6:26 pm
    @Reganom, exactly, and it`s also important to note that NIDA only funds studies which focus on the negative effects of MJ. The title of this post says federally funded but I don`t see where it is.
    Also, there needs to be studies focusing on vaporized MJ.
    Another thing is that not everyone uses MJ every single day. I only use it about twice, at most thrice a week and in small doses. Heavy users will have a fully recovered mental abilities at the most 30 days after abstinence; that`s heavy users. So for the occasional users who don`t even smoke it, I don`t think there is much damage even less mental. While you`re high you can`t drive or do math, I`ll agree with that, but it didn`t prevent me from getting into UCB and UCLA.
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    BenTheBug Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    No poo.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    Studies are just useless data combined to make results to push for a point :)
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    January 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Using meth daily doesn`t cause long term lung damage either. It must be ok to use too then.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    @Freddy. Name me a long-term damage that marijuana causes.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    However, they warned that the risks of heavy marijuana use were difficult to assess and cautioned against regular or frequent smoking.

    "Marijuana is still an illegal drug, and it has many complicated effects on the human body and its function," said Stefan Kertesz, senior author of the research in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

    There is always some disclaimer on these `studies`.
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    Selous Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    memory

    they should do this study on bong use, most people i know use bongs and not joints
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    TkA Male 30-39
    115 posts
    January 10, 2012 at 8:09 pm
    Sure lets legalize it, wont it be awesome to wake up from surgery after the head surgeon had a serious smoke fest the night before? Yeah it`d be a miracle you lived!
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    Yeahhhhhhhhh Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:15 pm
    http://tinyurl.com/6fazshj This is all I have to say anytime someone post something about legalizing.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    Using meth daily doesn`t cause long term lung damage either. It must be ok to use too then.

    Either you`re trolling, have sustained head trauma, or are a moron.

    Not a word about vaporizing. MEH.

    Exactly. They don`t fund these because then they`d lose any grounds to argue negative aspects associated with smoke. If they were so sure of its bad effects, they wouldn`t be scared to fund vaporizer studies.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    wont it be awesome to wake up from surgery after the head surgeon had a serious smoke fest the night before?

    Have you even smoked weed before? Even if he did, there is no hangover or anything. I could also say the same about going out drinking. How can you be sure that your surgeon didn`t go on a booze bender the night before. Your logic reeks of ignorance and ineptitude.
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    Does not matter about the health risks, nor the lack of motivation it `promotes`, NOR the fact that its undetectable in a short term usage period (Driving wile fried lol). Fact is it will become like cigarettes..government/federally funded conglomerates will monopolize and R U I N the economy.. SO many people will be put out of work it wouldnt even be funny. In BC Canada pot revenue produces more provinvial income than the 3 largest `legit` industries put together. Just saying look at how many people you know that are involved one way or another..all them would have to get a (non existant) job.So you get to carry a little bit of weed in your pocket..woopty poo you do that anyway, and its not like a doobie will land you more than a slap on the wrist anyway.

    As a true former `up in the mountains` entrepreneur I advise against it.
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    SunnyNphilly Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    @TkA`s arguement-

    You are an idiot. Legalization has nothing to do with your imaginary surgeon smoking himself stupid the night before surgery. Is there any difference if he drinks heavily, ingests prescription pills, or uses some other hard drugs? No. It would be a great case for malpractice in either instance.

    It`s the same straw man case as "If its legal everyone on the road will be so high the highway will look like bumper cars." Its a ridiculous claim. Look at our good legal friend alcohol and some DUI reports. Driving impaired (alcohol, weed, pills, meth, crack, heroin) can still get you a DUI charge.

    @Helix- "While you`re high you can`t drive or do math"
    I have driven and passed many a math course stoned. Although I don`t suggest either.
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    Yeahhhhhhhhh Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    @ Selous why would a study on bong use be beneficial to legalizing marijuana?

    I`m sure you can find one from High Times..........
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 10, 2012 at 8:54 pm
    patchgrabber: Either you`re trolling, have sustained head trauma, or are a moron.

    That`s the pot calling the kettle `black` right there.
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    Yeahhhhhhhhh Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    Why are all these people in Europe bitching? You guys have AMSTERDAM! SERIOUSLY!
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    helix25 Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm
    Sure lets legalize it, wont it be awesome to wake up from surgery after the head surgeon had a serious smoke fest the night before? Yeah it`d be a miracle you lived!

    I know the point has already been made, but you definitely need to try getting high before making this argument. I cooked pot yesterday and I got WAY too high (I didn`t mean to get that high), NONETHELESS I had ZERO hangover, I`d say I had the most refreshing sleep ever.

    Most people who make arguments saying that pot makes you stupid at some point know nothing about it. Yet they will go binge drinking the next weekend, and totally ignore the damage on their brain and liver. They`ll be proud to tell everyone at school "I got so drating drunk last night LOL" and then say "weed is bad for you!!".
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    @helix
    He smoked the night before? Won`t change him now. Drinking WOULD.

    lol
    "So for the occasional users who don`t even smoke it"
    in what way does that make them OCCASIONAL USERS
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    xelous Male 18-29
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    January 10, 2012 at 10:50 pm
    Only seven joints a day... alright I don`t mind cutting back to be healthy.

    *thumbs up*
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm
    I am all for the legalization of weed and all, but to try and get it by spreading this type of lie?

    Look, NOTHING smokable is safe. Weed is going to tear up your lungs, perhaps not as much, but it will.

    I will say this though, I cannot stand alcohol. I dont like drunk people, I do not like what it does to people, and I do not like myself on it. It people like me who do not like the currently accepted form of getting rid of the sober and would like to sit on the back porch and watch the sunset with a joint in my hand. Is that really so bad?
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    ""So for the occasional users who don`t even smoke it"
    in what way does that make them OCCASIONAL USERS"

    You have to understand that smoking weed is actually the least beneficial way of consuming it. Baked, vaporized, or converted into a liquid state is much stronger. This is how you get occasional users without smoking it. Believe it or not, alot of elderly medical marijuana users are consuming it through baked goods or actually in candy forms.

    But as with cocaine, I am against any kind of refinement. Weed should be consumed a day or two right off the plant.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 10, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    "patchgrabber: Either you`re trolling, have sustained head trauma, or are a moron.


    That`s the pot calling the kettle `black` right there."

    Oh really? Then what do you have to offer? hes making a valid argument while you poke with veiled insults.

    Doesnt that make you that only troll of the bunch?

    But you go ahead and consume the man made evil (Jesus Did) while I enjoy the natural made plant unf.ucked with since whatever god anyone believes in put it here.

    Though I have to say for arguments sake, these chemically altered weeds, and cross bred weeds are no better than meth or alcohol. Man made evil crap that is way too strong. Just let me grow my own, let me keep it so no one can change it and make their own alterations, and let me enjoy my damn sunsets!!!
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 11, 2012 at 12:01 am
    Steelgrid, okay, fresh is fime for eating but makes one very harsh smoke- a week or two maturing and you spliff will be way smoother on your mouth and lungs.
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2012 at 1:47 am
    "But you go ahead and consume the man made evil (Jesus Did) while I enjoy the natural made plant unf.ucked with since whatever god anyone believes in put it here."

    i think you`ll find most `weed` smoked today has been modified extensively, either by GM or selective breeding or both.

    so this study says if you smoke 1 joint a week you`ll probably wont get lung disease. How many stoners you know smoke that little? also, what about the alleged correlation between puff and mental illness ????
    Prove that false then start talking about legalising it.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 2:11 am
    What a wasted opportunity. 20 years to look at effects on lungs and heart, and NOT include brain?
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    Victim Male 70 & Over
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    January 11, 2012 at 3:09 am
    Anyone who is actually complaining about what other people use to intoxicate themselves are morons.

    It`s retarded for anyone to drink/smoke/inject ANYTHING and actually believe you are justified in condemning what someone else decides to use.

    The worst part of anything is when someone is obviously ignorant of the subject and feel the need to school everybody else about how bad a certain thing is and all of the side effects.

    .. so put down the weed needles because AIDs is a serious disease.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 3:39 am
    "Steelgrid, okay, fresh is fime for eating but makes one very harsh smoke- a week or two maturing and you spliff will be way smoother on your mouth and lungs."

    Im into my 30s. Ive smoked too much to really have a harsh feeling. Im content with taking a roadcone, hanging it upsidedown in a hi humidity, hi temp area for a couple days, and proceed to grind said roadcone for consumption.

    But to each their own too. As long as I get to roll a fat one at the end of the day and watch the sun drop over the water.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 3:42 am
    @Somtam

    If you are going to quote me and then make a retarded attempt to correct me, make sure you quote it all. I referenced the refined weeds. I also said I disagreed with crossbred and refined weeds.

    Maybe you need to finish reading someone`s post before attempting to make a correction.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 3:45 am
    ".. so put down the weed needles because AIDs is a serious disease."

    Your entire post that precedes these letters of ignorance tries to compare a naturally growing (in most cases) plant to a man made refined substance.

    ...and weed needles? What kind of meds does your doctor have shoving up your ass?
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2012 at 5:05 am
    What a wasted opportunity. 20 years to look at effects on lungs and heart, and NOT include brain?

    Exactly. Almost all the opposition to legalising weed is based on the claimed long-term effects on the brain, not the claimed long-term effects on the lungs.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2012 at 5:52 am
    I`m amazed by the level of ignorance here. I guess those anti-drug classes in elementary school succeeded in feeding your brains with misinformation.

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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    January 11, 2012 at 6:23 am
    If I had my choice between the surgeon who smoked a lb of weed the night before and the one who drank a fifth of fine whiskey the night before I`d choose the potsmoker. You`re all so hung up on whether or not it`s bad for you. Vitamin C is bad for you too if you have too much. What`s more important is whether or not the government has the right or should have the right to restrict it, in what ways, and why? Clearly it should be illegal to drive or fly a plane or otherwise operate heavy machinery. Even the surgeon shouldn`t be able to legally consume within 8 hours of a shift. Rules and restrictions are one thing but suggesting that we shouldn`t have a right to smoke pot is silly. Getting in the car to go to work each day is the most dangerous thing most of us do and we do it every day. fast Food has more verifiable health risks than pot. Maybe we should ban cars and fast food too, daddy government needs to decide what is safe for little baby citizens and you will do as you`re told.
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    chance13 Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 6:33 am
    Wow, tons of name-calling and insult throwing over something that has soooo many studies that point in both directions.

    A study is just a biased reflection by someone to prove a point. You can twist any fact you want to support any point. And yes, I don`t care who you think you are, there is no way to be truly unbiased in a study like this.

    As to the doctor analogy...when I go under the knife, I don`t want a drunk or a pot-head behind the scalpel.

    Everyone step back, toke a couple and relax...jeeze.
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    BigBossDogg Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 6:37 am
    Alcohol is the worst drug their is just because its legal people don`t think of it as a drug, its bullcrap. free the weed
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 6:43 am
    a week or two maturing and you spliff will be way smoother on your mouth and lungs.

    Vaporizer handles the harshness. Also, since there`s no combustion and combustion of secondary chemicals adds to the specifics of the high, when you vaporize it is tantamount to consumption.

    @Steelgrid: Thanks, but I`m not bothered by Crakr`s insults. I think he`s still got his panties in a bunch since I proved to him that his precious NIDA is a blantantly biased institution.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 6:48 am
    I find it ironic that the same people who think the "government is taking away our freedoms" are the same people who don`t want pot legalized. Then, if it were, would they automatically switch positions?
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 7:19 am
    @jtrebowski
    That some silly reasoning you have there.
    Yes, someone can pro something and against something similar without contradiction.
    Ex. Pro prostitution; against child prostitution .
    You would see that if you weren’t high
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    January 11, 2012 at 7:22 am
    People want to compare alcohol to pot, but you can not compare the two because your level of intoxication with alcohol can be controlled.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 7:30 am
    People want to compare alcohol to pot, but you can not compare the two because your level of intoxication with alcohol can be controlled.

    Spoken like a person who has never done weed before. You can control the intensity of your high based on how much you smoke/eat. Sometimes you smoke half a bowl, sometimes more, sometimes less.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 7:39 am
    I like how potheads always compare themselves with tobacco smokers. it’s nowhere near the same.
    In this pseudo-science study the compared smoking one joint to smoking 20+ cigarettes a day and didn’t find the same damage. Really! You think so! Note the line about “lifetime exposure”.
    This like comparing social drinker to alcohol to measure liver damage.

    poll: how many on you pot heads read the whole article?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2012 at 7:52 am
    [quote">poll: how many on you pot heads read the whole article?[/quote">

    I don`t have a subscription to JAMA, so I couldn`t read the whole paper. Every link online I found just went back to the abstract. If you have a link to the whole thing I`d love to read it. You are correct that there is some discrepancy between occasional pot smoking but not occasional smoking, but if you want a paper detailing the damage of low-level tobacco smoking, here you go.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 8:00 am
    @dm2754: Your analogy is ridiculous. Pedophilia has nothing to do with two adults having sex. Try again, skippy.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 8:03 am
    @SCfan: As it can with pot. If you take a tiny toke off a joint, you get a tiny buzz. If you smoke two or three massive bong hits, you`re going to be pretty stoned.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 8:03 am
    Steelgrid: But you go ahead and consume the man made evil..

    If you are referring to alcohol, I don`t imbibe.
    That and if you knew anything about wine making, you would know that `new wine` had little alcohol in it until it aged (fermented), and if it wasn`t drank by then it became vinegar.

    They didn`t have glass bottles, pasteurization, or even good corks back then, so fermentation continued unabated until the wine spoiled. Most people drank `new wine` because it wouldn`t get you drunk, unless you drank a lot of it. Very little of it aged long enough to become as strong as the wines that are made today, even less was left out long enough to became vinegar.

    So what Jesus and the disciples drank was only a little bit stronger than grape juice, a cup of that had less alcohol than a wine cooler does today.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 8:19 am
    @jtrebowski
    you missed the point
    try reading it over and over agin till you get it.
    hint: same but not exactly the same.

    sorry about the “ ‘ it`s someing with the IMB forum vs. ms office
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    January 11, 2012 at 8:24 am
    @patchgrabber
    Thanks! that very helpful. I love it when some can provide good source. I`ll have to read it and back to you.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 9:09 am
    Crakr- I think you are pretty wrong there- some wines were highly prized and not drunk THAT young- remember wine was shipped all over the Roman Empire. It was common to get slaughtered quite easily on wine, although some wine ( as beer) would have been weak in alcohol as it needed to be drunk when the water was not over safe....
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    jwhalerfan Male 30-39
    220 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 9:46 am
    I`ve come to find that posting any type of comment on this board is, in fact, trolling. You cannot have an intellectual conversation on I-A-B. The daily users foam at the mouth waiting to retort any comment whatsoever.

    So let me troll and add this:

    It really doesn`t matter what weed does or doesn`t do to my body. I don`t want any government making decisions for me concerning marijuana. The only major life changing dramatic experiences involving weed have come from it being illegal, and the reason it`s illegal is purely political. I don`t mind if the government wants to conduct studies and advise, but leave the choice to the people. You cannot relate pot to acid, meth or cocaine. It`s apples and oranges.

    There. Troll away, I-A-B. That`s what you do.
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
    661 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
    I would have marginally more respect for the "legalize it" crowd if they dropped the act and admitted that they just like to get high. There are too many people citing statistics that favor their side, and ignoring the other stuff that, like the effects on the heart and such, as well as saying that it`s better than cigarettes and alcohol, etc... That argument is especially stupid to me, since I`m in favor of prohibition of both of those.

    Oh, and for Christ`s sake, stop saying it makes you better at driving. Because paranoia-inducing hallucinogens don`t do that, and you just sound stupid.
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    Facehooker Female 30-39
    68 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Legalize it, I`ll advertise it!!
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Sorry, I just find it hard to believe that inhaling a smoke of any kind is not bad for you. Ok, so maybe it`s not bad for your lungs per se, but it increases your heart rate substantially; for people with tachycardia or high blood pressure, that`s a death sentence.

    If people said, "I want to smoke weed without having to be afraid of the cops--my heart rate is high enough already! Besides, the government has no right to say what we put in our own bodies." I would be more behind the pro-drug people.

    Drop the act and gain a lot more respect, stoners.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:17 am
    Drop the act and gain a lot more respect, stoners.

    I find it amusing that anti-marijuana people always feel the need to end their point with some derogatory comment using any description of a pot smoker that has a pejorative connotation.

    dropped the act and admitted that they just like to get high.

    Act? Why else would anyone smoke it? Of course it`s because people like to get high, just like people like to get drunk. The reason smokers compare it to cigs and alcohol is to point out obvious hypocrisy, but it`s also hard to perform ideal research when the government won`t allow it.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:26 am
    should be legallized...

    i dont smoke it personally, doubt me as you may, but i do know a fair amount of people who do (grandparents have been smoking for 50 + years :|)

    as long as you dont do things you know you cant do while you are high then nothing bad will happen to you...sit down, smoke a joint, be happy...whats so wrong with that?
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3441 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:40 am
    Legalize growing it for personal use.
    The way it`s going now, if they do legalize it, only corporations will be able to grow it, like tobacco. Did you know that it is illegal for you to grow your own tobacco?
    Rage against the machine!
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3441 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:42 am
    "Are you with us or against us?!"
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    Victim Male 70 & Over
    219 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:47 am
    there is nothing easier than making some raging "hurrdurr weed isn`t bad for you and I`m an intellectual about drugs!" retard rage.

    gj steelgrid you are in fact one of those retards

    also if you put down the pot needle once in a while you wouldn`t be so slow from all the CHT in your brain
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    Victim Male 70 & Over
    219 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:52 am
    also steelgrid is the type of person who makes people who smoke weed look like douchebags.

    you`re the exact type of person they used to make it illegal in the first place. I hope you`re proud.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 11:56 am
    @Victim: Obvious ad hominem troll is obvious. It`s amusing to see someone call another person a retard, then go on to demonstrate their complete lack of historical knowledge about why marijuana was criminalized in the first place. And WTF is a pot needle?
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    NOCASH Male 18-29
    423 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    I live life high everyday and most people don`t know the difference to when I`m high and when I`m not, it`s just normal for me. That being said I don`t care if it`s legal or not, I`ll be smoking it anyway.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 1:18 pm
    "there is nothing easier than making some raging "hurrdurr weed isn`t bad for you and I`m an intellectual about drugs!" retard rage."

    When did I say its not bad for you huh? You mind quoting that? Ohhhhh thats right, you cant.

    Btw....Retard.....Its THC....

    Really victim your two posts really did nothing to prove whatever it is you were trying to prove.

    You cant even get what I said right. Tell you what, you go back, change your tampon, learn to read, then come back and make another sad attempt to discredit a post that was never given.

    CHT and pot needles, you really are quite stupid.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
    506 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    Willing to bet that long-term, heavy use of pot is still less physically damaging than long-term, heavy use of sugar.
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    Victim Male 70 & Over
    219 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    even after that post you still don`t understand I`m mocking you

    you truly are slow
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
    661 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    People who mentioned my comment, I was referring to the people who pretend that it`s good for you, or that they want it to be legal for the alleged medical benefits. Those people need to shut up. Either way, I fully intend to release a virus that wipes out all of the marijuana plants, anyway, if only so people will shut the hell up about it.

    Seriously, people died while this argument went on, and it could have been prevented.
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    SunnyNphilly Male 18-29
    645 posts
    January 11, 2012 at 10:03 pm
    what about the alleged correlation between puff and mental illness ????Prove that false then start talking about legalising it.

    So alcohol, with all its positive health benefits, should definitely be legal.

    People want to compare alcohol to pot, but you can not compare the two because your level of intoxication with alcohol can be controlled.

    1 puff vs 1 shot, 2 puffs vs 2 shots, 3 puffs vs 3 shots, 4 puffs vs 4 shots, 5 puffs vs 5 shots, 6 puffs vs 6 shots, 7 puffs vs 7 shots.

    uncontrollable indeed...
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    kj36 Female 18-29
    240 posts
    January 12, 2012 at 3:29 am
    O RLY I DIDNT KNO DAT
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    January 12, 2012 at 6:36 am
    you truly are slow

    No, you`re just a troll, now go back under your bridge.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 12, 2012 at 7:25 am
    Seriously, people died while this argument went on, and it could have been prevented.

    This is just ridiculous.

    they want it to be legal for the alleged medical benefits

    Tell that to people with cancer undergoing chemo. Does weed affect your life in any way if you don`t use it? No. Only the debate seems to irritate you so I hope you drop your "virus" (chuckle) and it infects you instead.
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    funnehkitteh Male 18-29
    528 posts
    January 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    bleugh, weed just doesn`t agree with me anymore

    booze ftw
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    -Firestorm- Male 18-29
    48 posts
    January 12, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Stupid!!
    Legalization will lead to overpriced weed...weed will not be grown with care but to marketed out quick and cheaply as possible (no quality in weed)...dealers will try to price their weed higher to compensate for the loss of customers...

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