Time To Legalize It! Weed Not All That Bad [Pic+]

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A 20-year federally-funded study finds that smoking marijuana weekly or daily causes no long-term lung damage.See Credit
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There are 96 comments:
Male 47
Stupid!!
Legalization will lead to overpriced weed...weed will not be grown with care but to marketed out quick and cheaply as possible (no quality in weed)...dealers will try to price their weed higher to compensate for the loss of customers...
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Male 528
bleugh, weed just doesn`t agree with me anymore

booze ftw
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Male 5,811
[quote]Seriously, people died while this argument went on, and it could have been prevented.[/quote]

This is just ridiculous.

[quote] they want it to be legal for the alleged medical benefits[/quote]

Tell that to people with cancer undergoing chemo. Does weed affect your life in any way if you don`t use it? No. Only the debate seems to irritate you so I hope you drop your "virus" (chuckle) and it infects you instead.
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Male 10,855
[quote]you truly are slow[/quote]

No, you`re just a troll, now go back under your bridge.
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Female 240
O RLY I DIDNT KNO DAT
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Male 645
what about the alleged correlation between puff and mental illness ????Prove that false then start talking about legalising it.

So alcohol, with all its positive health benefits, should definitely be legal.

People want to compare alcohol to pot, but you can not compare the two because your level of intoxication with alcohol can be controlled.

1 puff vs 1 shot, 2 puffs vs 2 shots, 3 puffs vs 3 shots, 4 puffs vs 4 shots, 5 puffs vs 5 shots, 6 puffs vs 6 shots, 7 puffs vs 7 shots.

uncontrollable indeed...
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Male 658
People who mentioned my comment, I was referring to the people who pretend that it`s good for you, or that they want it to be legal for the alleged medical benefits. Those people need to shut up. Either way, I fully intend to release a virus that wipes out all of the marijuana plants, anyway, if only so people will shut the hell up about it.

Seriously, people died while this argument went on, and it could have been prevented.
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Male 219
even after that post you still don`t understand I`m mocking you

you truly are slow
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Male 506
Willing to bet that long-term, heavy use of pot is still less physically damaging than long-term, heavy use of sugar.
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Male 2,700
"there is nothing easier than making some raging "hurrdurr weed isn`t bad for you and I`m an intellectual about drugs!" retard rage."

When did I say its not bad for you huh? You mind quoting that? Ohhhhh thats right, you cant.

Btw....Retard.....Its THC....

Really victim your two posts really did nothing to prove whatever it is you were trying to prove.

You cant even get what I said right. Tell you what, you go back, change your tampon, learn to read, then come back and make another sad attempt to discredit a post that was never given.

CHT and pot needles, you really are quite stupid.
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Male 423
I live life high everyday and most people don`t know the difference to when I`m high and when I`m not, it`s just normal for me. That being said I don`t care if it`s legal or not, I`ll be smoking it anyway.
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Male 5,811
@Victim: Obvious ad hominem troll is obvious. It`s amusing to see someone call another person a retard, then go on to demonstrate their complete lack of historical knowledge about why marijuana was criminalized in the first place. And WTF is a pot needle?
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Male 219
also steelgrid is the type of person who makes people who smoke weed look like douchebags.

you`re the exact type of person they used to make it illegal in the first place. I hope you`re proud.
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Male 219
there is nothing easier than making some raging "hurrdurr weed isn`t bad for you and I`m an intellectual about drugs!" retard rage.

gj steelgrid you are in fact one of those retards

also if you put down the pot needle once in a while you wouldn`t be so slow from all the CHT in your brain
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Male 3,477
"Are you with us or against us?!"
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Male 3,477
Legalize growing it for personal use.
The way it`s going now, if they do legalize it, only corporations will be able to grow it, like tobacco. Did you know that it is illegal for you to grow your own tobacco?
Rage against the machine!
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Male 3,745
should be legallized...

i dont smoke it personally, doubt me as you may, but i do know a fair amount of people who do (grandparents have been smoking for 50 + years :|)

as long as you dont do things you know you cant do while you are high then nothing bad will happen to you...sit down, smoke a joint, be happy...whats so wrong with that?
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Male 5,811
[quote]Drop the act and gain a lot more respect, stoners.[/quote]

I find it amusing that anti-marijuana people always feel the need to end their point with some derogatory comment using any description of a pot smoker that has a pejorative connotation.

[quote]dropped the act and admitted that they just like to get high.[/quote]

Act? Why else would anyone smoke it? Of course it`s because people like to get high, just like people like to get drunk. The reason smokers compare it to cigs and alcohol is to point out obvious hypocrisy, but it`s also hard to perform ideal research when the government won`t allow it.
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Male 525
Sorry, I just find it hard to believe that inhaling a smoke of any kind is not bad for you. Ok, so maybe it`s not bad for your lungs per se, but it increases your heart rate substantially; for people with tachycardia or high blood pressure, that`s a death sentence.

If people said, "I want to smoke weed without having to be afraid of the cops--my heart rate is high enough already! Besides, the government has no right to say what we put in our own bodies." I would be more behind the pro-drug people.

Drop the act and gain a lot more respect, stoners.
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Female 68
Legalize it, I`ll advertise it!!
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Male 658
I would have marginally more respect for the "legalize it" crowd if they dropped the act and admitted that they just like to get high. There are too many people citing statistics that favor their side, and ignoring the other stuff that, like the effects on the heart and such, as well as saying that it`s better than cigarettes and alcohol, etc... That argument is especially stupid to me, since I`m in favor of prohibition of both of those.

Oh, and for Christ`s sake, stop saying it makes you better at driving. Because paranoia-inducing hallucinogens don`t do that, and you just sound stupid.
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Male 220
I`ve come to find that posting any type of comment on this board is, in fact, trolling. You cannot have an intellectual conversation on I-A-B. The daily users foam at the mouth waiting to retort any comment whatsoever.

So let me troll and add this:

It really doesn`t matter what weed does or doesn`t do to my body. I don`t want any government making decisions for me concerning marijuana. The only major life changing dramatic experiences involving weed have come from it being illegal, and the reason it`s illegal is purely political. I don`t mind if the government wants to conduct studies and advise, but leave the choice to the people. You cannot relate pot to acid, meth or cocaine. It`s apples and oranges.

There. Troll away, I-A-B. That`s what you do.
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Female 8,045
Crakr- I think you are pretty wrong there- some wines were highly prized and not drunk THAT young- remember wine was shipped all over the Roman Empire. It was common to get slaughtered quite easily on wine, although some wine ( as beer) would have been weak in alcohol as it needed to be drunk when the water was not over safe....
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Male 4,228
@patchgrabber
Thanks! that very helpful. I love it when some can provide good source. I`ll have to read it and back to you.
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Male 4,228
@jtrebowski
you missed the point
try reading it over and over agin till you get it.
hint: same but not exactly the same.

sorry about the “ ‘ it`s someing with the IMB forum vs. ms office
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Male 17,511
Steelgrid: [quote]But you go ahead and consume the man made evil..[/quote]

If you are referring to alcohol, I don`t imbibe.
That and if you knew anything about wine making, you would know that `new wine` had little alcohol in it until it aged (fermented), and if it wasn`t drank by then it became vinegar.

They didn`t have glass bottles, pasteurization, or even good corks back then, so fermentation continued unabated until the wine spoiled. Most people drank `new wine` because it wouldn`t get you drunk, unless you drank a lot of it. Very little of it aged long enough to become as strong as the wines that are made today, even less was left out long enough to became vinegar.

So what Jesus and the disciples drank was only a little bit stronger than grape juice, a cup of that had less alcohol than a wine cooler does today.
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Male 3,369
@SCfan: As it can with pot. If you take a tiny toke off a joint, you get a tiny buzz. If you smoke two or three massive bong hits, you`re going to be pretty stoned.
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Male 3,369
@dm2754: Your analogy is ridiculous. Pedophilia has nothing to do with two adults having sex. Try again, skippy.
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Male 5,811
[quote">poll: how many on you pot heads read the whole article?[/quote">

I don`t have a subscription to JAMA, so I couldn`t read the whole paper. Every link online I found just went back to the abstract. If you have a link to the whole thing I`d love to read it. You are correct that there is some discrepancy between occasional pot smoking but not occasional smoking, but if you want a paper detailing the damage of low-level tobacco smoking, here you go.
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Male 4,228
I like how potheads always compare themselves with tobacco smokers. it’s nowhere near the same.
In this pseudo-science study the compared smoking one joint to smoking 20+ cigarettes a day and didn’t find the same damage. Really! You think so! Note the line about “lifetime exposure”.
This like comparing social drinker to alcohol to measure liver damage.

poll: how many on you pot heads read the whole article?
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Male 5,811
[quote]People want to compare alcohol to pot, but you can not compare the two because your level of intoxication with alcohol can be controlled. [/quote]

Spoken like a person who has never done weed before. You can control the intensity of your high based on how much you smoke/eat. Sometimes you smoke half a bowl, sometimes more, sometimes less.
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Male 2,085
People want to compare alcohol to pot, but you can not compare the two because your level of intoxication with alcohol can be controlled.
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Male 4,228
@jtrebowski
That some silly reasoning you have there.
Yes, someone can pro something and against something similar without contradiction.
Ex. Pro prostitution; against child prostitution .
You would see that if you weren’t high
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Male 3,369
I find it ironic that the same people who think the "government is taking away our freedoms" are the same people who don`t want pot legalized. Then, if it were, would they automatically switch positions?
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Male 5,811
[quote]a week or two maturing and you spliff will be way smoother on your mouth and lungs.[/quote]

Vaporizer handles the harshness. Also, since there`s no combustion and combustion of secondary chemicals adds to the specifics of the high, when you vaporize it is tantamount to consumption.

@Steelgrid: Thanks, but I`m not bothered by Crakr`s insults. I think he`s still got his panties in a bunch since I proved to him that his precious NIDA is a blantantly biased institution.
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Male 132
Alcohol is the worst drug their is just because its legal people don`t think of it as a drug, its bullcrap. free the weed
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Male 219
Wow, tons of name-calling and insult throwing over something that has soooo many studies that point in both directions.

A study is just a biased reflection by someone to prove a point. You can twist any fact you want to support any point. And yes, I don`t care who you think you are, there is no way to be truly unbiased in a study like this.

As to the doctor analogy...when I go under the knife, I don`t want a drunk or a pot-head behind the scalpel.

Everyone step back, toke a couple and relax...jeeze.
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Male 1,239
If I had my choice between the surgeon who smoked a lb of weed the night before and the one who drank a fifth of fine whiskey the night before I`d choose the potsmoker. You`re all so hung up on whether or not it`s bad for you. Vitamin C is bad for you too if you have too much. What`s more important is whether or not the government has the right or should have the right to restrict it, in what ways, and why? Clearly it should be illegal to drive or fly a plane or otherwise operate heavy machinery. Even the surgeon shouldn`t be able to legally consume within 8 hours of a shift. Rules and restrictions are one thing but suggesting that we shouldn`t have a right to smoke pot is silly. Getting in the car to go to work each day is the most dangerous thing most of us do and we do it every day. fast Food has more verifiable health risks than pot. Maybe we should ban cars and fast food too, daddy government needs to decide what is safe for little baby citizens and you will do as you`re told.
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Female 2,525
I`m amazed by the level of ignorance here. I guess those anti-drug classes in elementary school succeeded in feeding your brains with misinformation.

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Male 4,290
[quote]What a wasted opportunity. 20 years to look at effects on lungs and heart, and NOT include brain?[/quote]

Exactly. Almost all the opposition to legalising weed is based on the claimed long-term effects on the brain, not the claimed long-term effects on the lungs.
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Male 2,700
".. so put down the weed needles because AIDs is a serious disease."

Your entire post that precedes these letters of ignorance tries to compare a naturally growing (in most cases) plant to a man made refined substance.

...and weed needles? What kind of meds does your doctor have shoving up your ass?
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Male 2,700
@Somtam

If you are going to quote me and then make a retarded attempt to correct me, make sure you quote it all. I referenced the refined weeds. I also said I disagreed with crossbred and refined weeds.

Maybe you need to finish reading someone`s post before attempting to make a correction.
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Male 2,700
"Steelgrid, okay, fresh is fime for eating but makes one very harsh smoke- a week or two maturing and you spliff will be way smoother on your mouth and lungs."

Im into my 30s. Ive smoked too much to really have a harsh feeling. Im content with taking a roadcone, hanging it upsidedown in a hi humidity, hi temp area for a couple days, and proceed to grind said roadcone for consumption.

But to each their own too. As long as I get to roll a fat one at the end of the day and watch the sun drop over the water.
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Male 219
Anyone who is actually complaining about what other people use to intoxicate themselves are morons.

It`s retarded for anyone to drink/smoke/inject ANYTHING and actually believe you are justified in condemning what someone else decides to use.

The worst part of anything is when someone is obviously ignorant of the subject and feel the need to school everybody else about how bad a certain thing is and all of the side effects.

.. so put down the weed needles because AIDs is a serious disease.
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Male 5,094
What a wasted opportunity. 20 years to look at effects on lungs and heart, and NOT include brain?
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Male 714
"But you go ahead and consume the man made evil (Jesus Did) while I enjoy the natural made plant unf.ucked with since whatever god anyone believes in put it here."

i think you`ll find most `weed` smoked today has been modified extensively, either by GM or selective breeding or both.

so this study says if you smoke 1 joint a week you`ll probably wont get lung disease. How many stoners you know smoke that little? also, what about the alleged correlation between puff and mental illness ????
Prove that false then start talking about legalising it.
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Female 8,045
Steelgrid, okay, fresh is fime for eating but makes one very harsh smoke- a week or two maturing and you spliff will be way smoother on your mouth and lungs.
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Male 2,700
"patchgrabber: Either you`re trolling, have sustained head trauma, or are a moron.


That`s the pot calling the kettle `black` right there."

Oh really? Then what do you have to offer? hes making a valid argument while you poke with veiled insults.

Doesnt that make you that only troll of the bunch?

But you go ahead and consume the man made evil (Jesus Did) while I enjoy the natural made plant unf.ucked with since whatever god anyone believes in put it here.

Though I have to say for arguments sake, these chemically altered weeds, and cross bred weeds are no better than meth or alcohol. Man made evil crap that is way too strong. Just let me grow my own, let me keep it so no one can change it and make their own alterations, and let me enjoy my damn sunsets!!!
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Male 2,700
""So for the occasional users who don`t even smoke it"
in what way does that make them OCCASIONAL USERS"

You have to understand that smoking weed is actually the least beneficial way of consuming it. Baked, vaporized, or converted into a liquid state is much stronger. This is how you get occasional users without smoking it. Believe it or not, alot of elderly medical marijuana users are consuming it through baked goods or actually in candy forms.

But as with cocaine, I am against any kind of refinement. Weed should be consumed a day or two right off the plant.
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Male 2,700
I am all for the legalization of weed and all, but to try and get it by spreading this type of lie?

Look, NOTHING smokable is safe. Weed is going to tear up your lungs, perhaps not as much, but it will.

I will say this though, I cannot stand alcohol. I dont like drunk people, I do not like what it does to people, and I do not like myself on it. It people like me who do not like the currently accepted form of getting rid of the sober and would like to sit on the back porch and watch the sunset with a joint in my hand. Is that really so bad?
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Male 2,513
Only seven joints a day... alright I don`t mind cutting back to be healthy.

*thumbs up*
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Male 2,419
@helix
He smoked the night before? Won`t change him now. Drinking WOULD.

lol
"So for the occasional users who don`t even smoke it"
in what way does that make them OCCASIONAL USERS
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Male 165
Sure lets legalize it, wont it be awesome to wake up from surgery after the head surgeon had a serious smoke fest the night before? Yeah it`d be a miracle you lived!

I know the point has already been made, but you definitely need to try getting high before making this argument. I cooked pot yesterday and I got WAY too high (I didn`t mean to get that high), NONETHELESS I had ZERO hangover, I`d say I had the most refreshing sleep ever.

Most people who make arguments saying that pot makes you stupid at some point know nothing about it. Yet they will go binge drinking the next weekend, and totally ignore the damage on their brain and liver. They`ll be proud to tell everyone at school "I got so drating drunk last night LOL" and then say "weed is bad for you!!".
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Male 105
Why are all these people in Europe bitching? You guys have AMSTERDAM! SERIOUSLY!
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Male 17,511
patchgrabber: [quote]Either you`re trolling, have sustained head trauma, or are a moron.[/quote]

That`s the pot calling the kettle `black` right there.
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Male 105
@ Selous why would a study on bong use be beneficial to legalizing marijuana?

I`m sure you can find one from High Times..........
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Male 645
@TkA`s arguement-

You are an idiot. Legalization has nothing to do with your imaginary surgeon smoking himself stupid the night before surgery. Is there any difference if he drinks heavily, ingests prescription pills, or uses some other hard drugs? No. It would be a great case for malpractice in either instance.

It`s the same straw man case as "If its legal everyone on the road will be so high the highway will look like bumper cars." Its a ridiculous claim. Look at our good legal friend alcohol and some DUI reports. Driving impaired (alcohol, weed, pills, meth, crack, heroin) can still get you a DUI charge.

@Helix- "While you`re high you can`t drive or do math"
I have driven and passed many a math course stoned. Although I don`t suggest either.
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Male 1,252
Does not matter about the health risks, nor the lack of motivation it `promotes`, NOR the fact that its undetectable in a short term usage period (Driving wile fried lol). Fact is it will become like cigarettes..government/federally funded conglomerates will monopolize and R U I N the economy.. SO many people will be put out of work it wouldnt even be funny. In BC Canada pot revenue produces more provinvial income than the 3 largest `legit` industries put together. Just saying look at how many people you know that are involved one way or another..all them would have to get a (non existant) job.So you get to carry a little bit of weed in your pocket..woopty poo you do that anyway, and its not like a doobie will land you more than a slap on the wrist anyway.

As a true former `up in the mountains` entrepreneur I advise against it.
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Male 5,811
[quote] wont it be awesome to wake up from surgery after the head surgeon had a serious smoke fest the night before?[/quote]

Have you even smoked weed before? Even if he did, there is no hangover or anything. I could also say the same about going out drinking. How can you be sure that your surgeon didn`t go on a booze bender the night before. Your logic reeks of ignorance and ineptitude.
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Male 5,811
[quote]Using meth daily doesn`t cause long term lung damage either. It must be ok to use too then.[/quote]

Either you`re trolling, have sustained head trauma, or are a moron.

[quote]Not a word about vaporizing. MEH.[/quote]

Exactly. They don`t fund these because then they`d lose any grounds to argue negative aspects associated with smoke. If they were so sure of its bad effects, they wouldn`t be scared to fund vaporizer studies.
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Male 105
http://tinyurl.com/6fazshj This is all I have to say anytime someone post something about legalizing.
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Male 115
Sure lets legalize it, wont it be awesome to wake up from surgery after the head surgeon had a serious smoke fest the night before? Yeah it`d be a miracle you lived!
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Male 1,197
memory

they should do this study on bong use, most people i know use bongs and not joints
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Male 5,189
Just finished my month long T-Break and it was quite easy for myself.
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Male 17,511
However, they warned that the risks of heavy marijuana use were difficult to assess and cautioned against regular or frequent smoking.

"Marijuana is still an illegal drug, and it has many complicated effects on the human body and its function," said Stefan Kertesz, senior author of the research in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

There is always some disclaimer on these `studies`.
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Male 934
@Freddy. Name me a long-term damage that marijuana causes.
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Male 11,739
Using meth daily doesn`t cause long term lung damage either. It must be ok to use too then.
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Male 25,416
Studies are just useless data combined to make results to push for a point :)
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Male 1,195
No poo.
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Male 165
@Reganom, exactly, and it`s also important to note that NIDA only funds studies which focus on the negative effects of MJ. The title of this post says federally funded but I don`t see where it is.
Also, there needs to be studies focusing on vaporized MJ.
Another thing is that not everyone uses MJ every single day. I only use it about twice, at most thrice a week and in small doses. Heavy users will have a fully recovered mental abilities at the most 30 days after abstinence; that`s heavy users. So for the occasional users who don`t even smoke it, I don`t think there is much damage even less mental. While you`re high you can`t drive or do math, I`ll agree with that, but it didn`t prevent me from getting into UCB and UCLA.
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Male 505
Tatripp:

If someone is predisposed to schizophrenia then marijuana increases the chance to:

Develop schizophrenia
or
Cause a relapse

The research I`ve found hasn`t indicated that marijuana use will cause schizophrenia unless there is already a chance of it occuring in the user.
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Male 505
Another one

Keep in mind that I`m searching only for studies that show long term mental changes. I personally feel that we need more research on the issue, because as it stands there are so many conflicting studies.
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Male 1,196
I could care less about the lungs. I heard that it can cause mental illnesses later in life like psychosis and schizophrenia
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Male 505
Helix25:

Cognitive Functioning

Although at the same time I could probably find an equal number of papers that disagree with each other on marijuana use.
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Male 3,207
`Dinna care `bout weed or booze, long as I got my shrooms.
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Male 165
@3002-3038, there is no long term effects on the brain caused by weed. Go and find some evidence for your argument please, then come back.
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Male 165
I have to note that: Marijuana is not ONLY SMOKABLE. I use marijuana and I only use vaporizers or cook with it. I NEVER smoke pot, I can`t stand smoking and it`s bad.

So, any studies which can relate to the non-smoking effects of MJ? no.
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Female 631
can`t tell if student is trolling or not...
anywho has anyone ever met someone whose smoked weed for a long time? sure their lungs and eyes may be fine.
but mentally.. yeah not so much.
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Female 2,525
As long as there is money to be made from the war on drugs, pot will never be legal.
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Male 251
Can someone explain to me what I`m missing here (if anything)? The study says at 20 episodes per month, there is a negative effect. How many habitual pot smokers out there don`t smoke that much? Sounds like there are people with an agenda trying to stretch some data to a conclusion that it does not naturally lead to.
Actual Study Abstract
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Male 5,163
faustsshadow instantaneous roadside check for smokers allready exist. Is a little stick that you put on your tongue and change color if you have smoked weed or hashish.
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Male 629
I just want to know how you do a near instantaneous roadside check to bust people smoking and driving. My friend just damn near lost his leg and will be in rehab for over a year because of some stoned kids who swerved into him.

If it is going to be legalized, what will the `legal limits` be?
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Male 1,010
Smoking weed is human nature. God didn`t leave pot all over for nothing. Saying that weed should be illegal, is like saying God made a mistake.

Now, your`e not better than God, are you?
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Male 65
Not a word about vaporizing. MEH.
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Male 5,163
SnoopyBG i know for sure that is not like you say.Marijuana don`t create any phisical addiction like nicotine or alcohol ,is just a question of mind. If you stop to smoke marijuana you will suffer for the absence of it for few days, nothing more. Is much more difficult to stop to smoke tobacco than marijuana also cause all cigarettes are treated with substances that push you to keep smoking. Natural marijuana,not treated, don`t have this effect. So if you want to smoke just cultivate your plant to be sure to smoke natural. Don`t go around and smoke weed that come from people you don`t know, this is my only advice.
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Male 133
Sweet. Hoping for legalization soon. Mostly because I don`t know any dealers. But I suspect that if it is legalized it will be heavily regulated and some of the strains of higher quality would continue to be illegal. Kind of like moonshine.
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Female 64
Some people shouldn`t smoke weed. Like some people shouldn`t drink alcohol either...What is great for some, may not be the solution for others.
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Male 1,243
It`s the tobacco that people smoke with weed that causes the problem. I`ve known non-smokers take up cigarettes because smoking joints has got them addicted to nicotine. Not that I`m against weed or any narcotics, I think they should all be legalised, but every drug has a down side.
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Female 43
Alcohol is far more worse than marijuana.
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Male 2,376
"marijuana use increases a user`s likelihood of a heart attack"

No, that would be the bag of chips you eat after...
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Male 685
It may not damage you physically, but a friend of mine got really paranoid after smoking weed on a tight schedule. It definitely has a worse mental effect than cigarettes.
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Male 39,883

[quote]"However, they warned that the risks of heavy marijuana use were difficult to assess and cautioned against regular or frequent smoking." [/quote]
Meaning they couldn`t find anything bad but government funded studies insist on that sort of negative recomendation.
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Male 5,811
Ha, so lung function actually INCREASED with a one-joint-a-day regimen? Well, I wonder what bullpoo reasons we`ll be hearing for keeping it illegal now. Oh, who am I kidding? Since when has reason and logic prevailed in the war on drugs?
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Female 7
doesnt work
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Male 20,901
Happy days are here again...
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Female 8,043
Link: Time To Legalize It! Weed Not All That Bad [Pic+] [Rate Link] - A 20-year federally-funded study finds that smoking marijuana weekly or daily causes no long-term lung damage.See Credit
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