The Immortal Andy Rooney

Submitted by: Gerry1of1 5 years ago in

When did this become art?
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Male 4,844
Piperfawn, I don`t get the second piece you posted. It doesn`t speak to me at all. It looks like a crumpled up piece of paper. If it is twenty feet tall then I would say it is art. Or if it is made from metal. I would have to look at it. But if it is just a crumpled up piece of paper I say it is garbage - literally.
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Male 4,844
"That painting invokes epipleptic fits, nothing more."

In you it does. But in me it makes my mind move in wonderful ways.
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Male 4,844
"markus i live in the middle of Art, is kinda my job."

From your lack of knowledge on the subject I am guessing your job is sitting in a chair guarding the pieces. According to you art is only what you appreciate. Anything else is just done for money even if someone else appreciates it. That is very closed minded. It`s not the worst thing I have heard on the subject. That was from a first year college student that told me you can`t be an artist unless you have an art degree.
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Male 271
Mr. Rooney, you are not wrong. You are just crotchety.
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Male 39,531

markust123 [quote]"It gets my mind moving and pulls me in to explore my imagination." [/quote]
I call "BULL$HIT"!
That painting invokes epipleptic fits, nothing more.
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Male 5,141
Markus


So you must be fascinated also by that , is legit but is not Art, is just bricolage, or if you want pure aesthetic. Art is aestethic filled with a message and a soul.
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Male 4,844
"Can you explain me what the second painting transmits to your sensations?"

It gets my mind moving and pulls me in to explore my imagination. I have a mind that likes patterns and there are so many to look at as I scan through the piece. Something about the yellow really drew me in also.

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Male 15,175
Is he alive again?
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Male 5,141
if i watch the paint of the lady i can feel the wind, i can smell the scent of the salty water,i can hear the noise of the waves and my view can go deep on the scene... i would like also to kiss the neck of the lady. The second one is flat, no emotions just a mess that someone buy for the name putted on it and that most probably after few years will finish in some basement covered in dust.
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Male 5,141
markus i live in the middle of Art, is kinda my job. Can you explain me what the second paint transmit to your sensations?
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Male 4,844
Out of the two pieces you showed piperfawn I would put a print of the later in my house. I would never put a print of the lady by the sea in my house. It doesn`t speak to me. How can someone from Europe not understand art?
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Male 878
@Gerry1of1 - Thanks! I feel much better for that!
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Male 9
Public art has always attracted public vitriol. Rooney talks about modern art being created, although that movement had its peak when he was a very young man. I suspect that is when he stopped caring about fine art. I for one enjoy crop circles the most as public art or land art. Makes me lol that folks think aliens made it.
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Female 6,381
I didn`t realize how widespread the paint-a-fiberglass-animal trend is. If you haven`t had it your city, it`s a charitable program where white molded animals are painted by various artists (and sometimes amateurs), displayed all over the place, and then auctioned off. They range from inspired to "you must be kidding."
In my city, we`ve had orcas, bears, and eagles so far.
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Male 26
New Orleans has these fish everywhere.



They`re the least interesting thing about this city imo.
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Male 39,531

@ burbclaver - here is the Scripps Turd for you :-)
You don`t have to thank me. Just wash your hands when you`re done.

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Male 39,531

Art? Or just bad taste so you can get publicity?

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Male 878
San Diego has Okeanos, a giant turd, which took $40,000 just to flush it from the front of Scripps hospital and hide it on John J. Hopkins Drive. On the whole though, I like public art.
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Male 15,832
When I was ~10 yrs. old, I visited a large art museum with my family. They were short a tour guide, so our group was conducted by the curator.

We came to a modern painting -- a 10` x 10` square with a few blocks of bright colors and a diagonal line across it -- and the curator dutifully told us all about the painting and the artist. While everyone was "oohing" and "ahhing," I walked to the front of the group and said to the curator, "I don`t get it."

He replied in a hushed tone, "Neither do I."
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Male 1,471
@piperfawn: Nailed it !..

And so did Rooney.. I`m so tired of all the pretentious and extremely expensive bullpoo littering our streets..
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Female 2,525
drat you, Rooney. Just because you don`t understand it doesn`t mean it`s not art.
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Male 5,141


This is Art


This is just a way to get money.
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Male 5,141
wolladude nope art is not in the eye of the beholder, art is something that have an universal spirit that evryone can feel. If i put my feces in a can and i call it ART i`m just doing a provocation, i`m not doing art. Art is born as an universal language, from the paints of the cavemans to the statues on temples, if you vomit some color on a piece of papaer sayng this represent the time you hit your finger with an hammer that is not art is just you "personal" and "intimistic" way of doing crap that don`t have nothing to share with an "universal" message.
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Male 401
Art is art when the artist claims it is, wether it is good or bad art is in the eye of the beholder.

You may not like it, but it`s still art!
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Male 115
Douchebag
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Male 3,631
"What does this say about man`s inhumanity to man?"

Gerry - it usually isn`t benefited by alcohol ;-)
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Male 4,844
The animal art they showed are created to be sold for charity.

`Waiting for the Bus` is one of my favorite pieces in Seattle. I love how the people are always being dressed up.

I liked Andy Rooney but I don`t understand how this art made it into his commentary. He was really loosing it in the end.
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Male 4,844
I have a real open mind on art but I have my limits. I was in the Pompidou Center and one of the "pieces" was a large rope with a few knots in it hanging from the tall ceiling down to the floor. Apparently there is art in every school gymnasium.
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Female 261
@Gerry1of1 That picture of the little girl makes me wish I could "thumbs-up" comments here on IAB!
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Male 1,404
Every time I see works like this I figure corruption is involved. Public or private it`s an ez pay off.
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Male 39,531

So...Is this art? Taking iconic things like Beer cases and reinventing them into items of destruction. What does this say about man`s inhumanity to man?

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Male 1,249
When you are complaining about art you know you have first world problems.
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Male 2,422
Postmodernist theory of art:

((Pretension)*(whatever the galleries can sell))/(talent)=art
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Male 39,531

Now THIS is art!
by Norman Rockwell.



Identifiable images that invoke a story.
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Male 39,531

" A R T " ?... I say it looks like a pepto bismal spill

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Male 197
@piperfawn Just because the artist can explain to you why they made a certain choice or another does not devalue the work. (Or possibly bullshít you because you`re asking them for their opinion instead of forming your own)

Monty Python is accepted performing silliness for silliness` sake, but if you do the same thing in a physical medium and it is deemed less relevant than art created with a specific agenda or message.
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Male 390
Rooney seem very focused on esthetics in art, constantly talking about how it did not "look good". If that is your primary perspective on art, and indicates whether it is good art or not, you are simply ignorant. Art is there to make us feel and think, not just be pretty and comforting. How ever if there is no real skill or craft involved it´s not for me. A lot of what he shows here seems void of talent of any sort, except landing the deal to do the piece for the city.
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Male 546

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Male 546
Also art.

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Male 546
AAAARRRRRTTTTT!!!!!!

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Male 5,141
"Art is self evident and visable for anyone to see that it`s ART."
That`s is exactly what i think Gerry.
Art don`t need to be explained, cause art must be something universal that evryone understand at first look, when an artist start to tell you..."look man in this paint you can clearly see how my mood was sad cause that day i found a piece of parsley on my teeth, you can clearly notice that by the materical extrusion of the blue periwinkle that absorb the lines on the paint in a dot of pain" well, in that case you are for sure in front of an idiot.
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Male 197
It seems to me you are claiming that 5 year olds can not create art Gerry. If so at what age does an inspired creation from a human mind expressed to others constitute "art" for you? 13? 18? 21?
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Female 399
This kind of pisses me off a little bit.I mean, really? Complain about something else. Even if a lot of that bullpoo did lack technical talent, it brightens up an otherwise trash-littered, bum-filled metropolitan area.
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Male 39,531

Here`s a test...
Is this ART or just a finger paint by a 5 year old?


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Male 39,531

The foo-foo types with art degrees will think us layment just don`t "get it". But I say, if you need a degree to even tell it`s art, then it`s not art at all. Art is self evident and visable for anyone to see that it`s ART.

Oh... and I got 3 posts in one day. New record for me. :-D
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Male 2,345
seriously??? with all the REAL problems going on right now in this country and this asshat is worried about some ugly art here and there???

F YOU Rooney.
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Male 197
Art. Disagree if you wish, will not change the fact you are wrong.

@Gerry1of1 Too bad that Andy Rooney died and there is no afterlife. So much for immortality.
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Female 217
"Picasso has earned the right to do whatever he wants." Quote from the video. And yet, at 33 seconds, he uses a Picasso painting on a sculpture as a reason art these days is terrible! Fail. Generally, I support Andy Rooney. He`s cute in an "Old guy`s got an old fashioned rant" kind of way. But just because he can`t understand something doesn`t make it wrong and whoever cut this video together cleary doesn`t know art either.
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Male 197
Everyone get too hung up on the aesthetic appeal of art. Art IS art. Bad art is -STILL- art. The artists` intentions are not so important as to overlook how a certain work impacts yourself. It is all in what you take away with you. In Andy Rooney`s case it seems he took away a healthy does of pretentious bullpoo.

"What is a human face? Who sees it correctly-the photographer, the mirror or the painter? Are we to paint what`s on the face, what`s inside the face, or what`s behind it?" -Pablo Picasso,
On shedding the ideals of classical art styles for his own.

Andy also is not taking the full scope of the projects like CowParade into account and evaluating individual pieces of a large scale installment on their aesthetic appeal to him.

Colloquially, Yeah, well...y`know that`s just like uh...your opinion man.
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Male 197
@Angelmassb You are equating "good" with "amount of money some dipshít is willing to spend for it". I hope you do see the folly of your statement.
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Male 15,510
Looks like nowadays, for a sculpture to be considered good, it has to be ugly
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Male 15,510
He has a good point
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Male 220
You are right. You are a boob. Your arguments make no sense. You only want art YOU understand. If someone else understands something you don`t you think they are full of --it. Yea right. Get a life.
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Male 2,513
Great post, I`m with ya Rooney. R.I.P.
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Male 1,674
anytime i see a comment on IAB - i picture it coming from Andy Rooney. "I know nothing about something but I think that thing is garbage".
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Male 186
Call what ever piece garbage art you want to. Just don`t send me the bill.
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Female 3,562
Apparently all it takes to be an artist is way too much money. There`s a guy out there who sold a sculpture of an a naked anime character using his sperm as a lasso. It`s like somebody decided it makes sense to give some one with the artistic talent of a high school drop out $100,000 to make whatever the hell looks stupid.
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Female 155
AGREED. It just bugs be that no skill is being used! With old sculptures and art, it was incredibly intricate and took a ton of experience and skill to achieve. This? Be an art major grad and find a sheet of metal. Boom.
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Male 260
NO Andy you were RIGHT. R.I.P my friend.
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Male 260
This guy is a goon if he donesnt think that is art! all of it! if u call it art it is art
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Male 25,417
Its art... seriously
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Male 260
The seattle sculpture is just like the sculptures he says he wants to see except someone put junk all over it!!!!!!!! I know because I`ve seen it irl
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Male 835
Most of this "art" is garbage and the artists are likely laughing all the way to the bank, while calling critics "uneducated" or "uncultured".

Rubbish.
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Male 68
Hate to say it but he makes some good points. The line between beauty and drivel is thin. To often is the latter masqueraded as "modernism" and praised as genius.
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Male 1,832
If you don`t like it, deal with it. Art is subjective.
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Male 3,099
He always was a whiny so-and-so.
I guess he was respected because he`d worked a long time in a high profile job and never(As far as I know) got caught leaving his cancer ridden wife for his long time mistress, or dinking little boys-so:
Kudos to you sir, rest in peace.
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Male 1,442
Yep. Pritty tired of it all myself.

Don`t even get me started on the posters...
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Male 341
nahh I totally agree.. Alot of these are stupid looking. They don`t publish kindergarten paintings in the Louvre, and they shouldn`t put these on my campus or on my monuments.. (My opinion)
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Male 4,793
I fully agree with Mr. Rooney
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Male 39,531
Link: The Immortal Andy Rooney [Rate Link] - When did this become art?
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