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88 Responses to Sh*t Christians Say To Atheists

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    Loxen Female 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 6:58 am
    Link: Sh*t Christians Say To Atheists - See you in heaven... from hell. --Rev. Lovejoy
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    LegerDemain Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:06 am
    I just realized that I don`t have any incentive Not to run around and kill people. You made a grave error, believer.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:18 am
    I was walking across a bridge one day and I saw a man standing on a ledge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don`t do it!"
    "Why shouldn`t I?" he said.
    "Well, there`s so much to live for." "Like what?" "Well, are you religious?" He said yes. I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?" "Christian." "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"
    "Protestant." "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"
    "Baptist." "Wow, me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"
    "Reformed Baptist Church of God." "Me too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1789 or Reformed Baptist Church of God, 1915?"
    He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915."
    I said, "Die, heretic scum!!" And pushed him off the bridge.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:19 am
    The "I`ll pray for you" is honestly the worst to me. It`s really malicious if you think about it. But I do find amusement in that they like to say "I`ll pray for you" but they rarely actually do pray for the person so they end up being liars :P
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    Mister_C Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:32 am
    That Lovejoy quote is the wrong way round, Loxen.
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    thestringy Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:43 am
    It has always scared me that theists need someone to tell them not to go around killing people.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:48 am
    I hate this video precisely because it doesn`t offend anyone.

    Why are we still talking about this? Can`t people get with the times already?
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:49 am
    See you in heaven... from hell. --Rev. Lovejoy
    Hahaha! Very nice.
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:53 am
    That was the worst "sh*t _____ say" yet. I`d be disappointed if that chick wasn`t cute.
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    Black_August Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:01 am
    You need to change the caption to "Sh*t *stupid* Christians say to Atheists." Pretty certain I`ve never ask any of those moronic questions.
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    RPossum Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Killed three people on my way to the coffee machine, coming back was worse.

    I`m starting to think the stink and body count might be reasons to stop killing...oh and the clean up is horrible. People are heavy when they stop moving.
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    furrything Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:43 am
    Hey! Mu invisible man`s better than YOUR invisible man! Wanna fight about it? Whaddaya mean, `turn the other cheek?`
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:45 am
    This sounds more like an uber-defensive atheist`s impression of what christians say to atheists.

    Look at her other videos--a bunch of them are about atheism. Let it be, will ya? We don`t make ourselves look any better by demonizing christians.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:48 am
    I`ve heard every single one of those at one point or another.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:49 am
    "You need to change the caption to "Sh*t *stupid* Christians say to Atheists." Pretty certain I`ve never ask any of those moronic questions."

    Then you are the exception. As an atheist, I`ve heard every one of these at some point, and most of them I hear weekly. And it doesn`t just come from the stupid Christians. It comes from the vast majority of them.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:54 am
    Ah, I`ve heard some of these so many times.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:14 am
    "As an atheist, I`ve heard every one of these at some point, and most of them I hear weekly."

    Rob, why do you go around telling people you`re an athiest? I`m not a Christian, but I never hear any of this kind of stuff because I KEEP MY RELIGION TO MYSELF. Clearly you must be trying to get a rise out of people by loudly declaring your beliefs and probably belittling others` religion. Self-righteous prick.
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:31 am
    Yeah...she`s as bad as born-again Christians.

    "Then you are the exception."

    Erm...you`ll find that a vast majority of Christians don`t rub their religious beliefs in other people`s faces.

    "...most of them I hear weekly."

    As you rub your beliefs in everyone else`s faces, right?
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:43 am
    It`s true.
    I hear most of these every time i get into a religious debate or discussion.
    Usually many of them from the same person

    My personal favorite is the "if you don`t believe in god what`s to stop you from eating babies" or some facsimile thereof
    facepalm
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Yeah, my mom-in-law`s church group pray for my hubby during his cancer. Now it`s all "Praise Jesus for curing you!"

    If you believe he cured the cancer then who do they think gave him the cancer in the first place?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:16 am
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:43 am
    @Gerry1of1, The answer is obvious. God. God gave him cancer and then God allowed him to be cured of cancer.

    Our failure to understand his divine plan does not mean he`s callous or irrational, just that we are severely handicapped in our faculties and ability to percieve existence as a whole.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:44 am
    Next I`m gonna see a video about 5h17 atheists say to christians.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:46 am
    ugh, that was annoying. Is someone going to put on a "S hit racists say" or "s hit sexist pigs say" or "s hit pedophiles say" ? I dunno, but as an atheist, i didn`t really find this funny, just annoying and offensive.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Ruffiana - so God makes us sick and sometimes cures us? In other words, tortures his pets.

    If He exists then He`s not a very nice god, is he.
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    Revolutioniz Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:14 am
    @Ruffiana Mhmm... And you know all of this to be true how? Yeah.. thats what i thought.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:37 am
    it was ok...
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:40 am
    @Cajun, doubtful, the IAB mods know that that wouldn`t cause nearly as much flaming.

    And to Gerry and Ruffiana, I don`t agree (and I don`t think most Christians do) with the notion that God directly causes evil in the word. I believe that evil and pain in the world come from man`s fallen nature. I understand that you can just write me off as a raving Jesus-freak, but I think it would be ignorant to, if you`re not going to accept any existence of a deity, to then blame that deity for suffering in the world.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:46 am
    There is no god,but a lot of stupid people believe there is.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:53 am

    AWalrus - no, I don`t think you`re raving.
    But don`t forget the "Omnipotent" thing. If He knows all ahead of time, He could intervene or allow bad things...He has free will and chooses not to help until after you suffer... I guess that`s one way of doing it.
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    Burgh Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    A very good channel worth the visit.

    youtube.com/user/TheThinkingAtheist


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    fps_will Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    im getting tired of these "poo (this group) says" videos
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    Stonardsftw Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    @emmettyville

    As an Atheist who has heard most of this poo, I found it kind of entertaining; but only due to the fact I`ve actually had people say at least half of this poo to me.
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    @Ruffiana

    Our failure to understand his divine plan does not mean he`s callous or irrational, just that we are severely handicapped in our faculties and ability to percieve existence as a whole.

    Yes, the "god works in mysterious ways" rational

    God has a plan for the thousands of children dying of starvation every day
    God has a plan for rape and murder victims
    God has a plan for people born with sever disabilities who live a brief, pain-filled life

    Even if god does have a plan he`s pretty ruthless and inhumane about how he carries it out. No human could pull this kind of sh­it off and be called "good" or "loving"
    Chrsitians say that god has a perfect plan for all of us because the must believe that if they don`t want to see god as the spiteful, jealous psychopath he must be.

    I hope at least you`ll have some biting questions for god when you meet him

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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    @AWalrus

    I believe that evil and pain in the world come from man`s fallen nature.

    How does that explain horrible viruses and natural disasters? Man doesn`t create those.
    Or do you mean evil is a punishment for the fall from grace?
    If it`s a punishment then what`s god`s deal?
    He made humans and placed a tree in the garden which he both forbade them to touch and knew that they would disobey. Real nice

    side note: I keep hearing that god wants us to have faith in him rather than knowledge of him.
    Is this something that can be found in the bible or is it just rationalization?
    Any christians on the board feel free to answer.
    Thanks!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    @fps_will: Me too.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    He made humans and placed a tree in the garden which he both forbade them to touch and knew that they would disobey. Real nice

    side note: I keep hearing that god wants us to have faith in him rather than knowledge of him.
    Is this something that can be found in the bible or is it just rationalization?
    Any christians on the board feel free to answer. -------------------
    I`m far from Christian but we`ll never know because we`ll never come together as a society and reject apples. Adam and Eve were really selfish, ungrateful a-holes. If they could`ve just fought the urge and resisted the talking snake perhaps we wouldn`t be debating this nonsense every few days... hmmm I wonder when snakes evolved from talkers to hissers...
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    @Gerry1of1, I don`t know this person`s hardships or how his life has changed, but I`m willing to bet it has changed in some fundamental way or at the very least was given the stimulus to change.

    It may not be apparent now or even ultimately seem like a good thing in retrospect, but in the end we won`t know what parts we played in this life until our time is over.

    @Revolutioniz, I don`t KNOW any of it to be true. That`s what faith is. A belief in something without proof supporting that belief. I may not even personally believe it, but I at least *understand* the belief based on my upbringing.

    Personally, I have my doubts. But the one thing I do believe is that IF there is a higher being, IF there is a continued existence beyond this life, we`re utterly incapable of understanding that being in this life because of our biological shackles and limitations.

    Religion is just one path to trying to reach a better understanding of the universe and our place i
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    GasMaskKid Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    thank god (irony) i live in such a progressive area... i`ve only gotten a couple of these things said to me. here, theists are the minority. and everyone who goes to my school is perfectly respectful when it comes to people who do believe in god. also, this girl has beautiful eyes if those aren`t contacts
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    I don`t KNOW any of it to be true. That`s what faith is. A belief in something without proof supporting that belief.

    Religion is just one path to trying to reach a better understanding of the universe

    Contradictory.
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    GasMaskKid Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    she`s wearing a darwin pendant... while playing a theist...
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    I`ve heard just about every single one of these things.
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    @Reboot, to clarify, when I said "evil and pain," I didn`t simply mean evil and pain caused by man. I believe that when humanity fell as a whole (that is, I fully believe that every one of us is presented with the same choice that Adam and Eve were given, and we all choose wrong), that that allowed death to have a hold in the world, causing everything from murder to natural disasters. I think you`ll find also that most sound Christians don`t simply believe that it`s part of God`s plan for people to die. I don`t believe that at all, but I do believe that hardships are brought upon humanity by humanity`s own nature. So yes, I believe that God lets experience hardship in this life for our disobedience, but I don`t believe that all pain on an individual (such as that of starving children) is caused by that individual`s personal sin.

    I believe that God gave us a choice in the garden because he didn`t want a race of mindless slaves who loved him because they were programm
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    ed to. We (yes we, not just Adam and Eve) chose wrong, and choose wrong every day, so God gave us another opportunity for salvation, this time not through our own perfection, but rather through his divine plan.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    "I fully believe that every one of us is presented with the same choice that Adam and Eve were given, and we all choose wrong"

    *See prejudice
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    @AWalrus: Was this before or after they rode dinosaurs?
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 2:37 pm
    its funny because its true, not god of course
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    grindinblade Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    @Ruffiana A random genetic mutation caused his cancer, developments and research in modern medicine cured it. If you think god did anything about it why would you even bother going to the hospital and not trust him?
    Also @Awalrus at what point were you or anyone else given the choice to eat the apple? Did a mentally handicapped nonchristian child, eat from the tree of knowledge, and does his nonbelief in your god banish him to hell for something he can`t even understand?
    Also I am willing to bet that the vast majority of human suffering and problems is directly or indirectly caused by religion. The catholic church telling africans not to use condoms, the mass killings of one religion by another (christians are as much at fault as any other).
    Rather than actually helping other human beings for the sake of humanity, you must look to a ancient text to tell you if its okay, or if they are evil and should be condemned.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @ Ruffiana - I get what you`re saying about `change`. You mean we are `evolving` as we go through life. Learning. I agree.

    I just don`t think some invisable, magic spirit had anything to do with it. Nor did a clutch of old crones invoking their JuJu and calling on their Spirit Gods to intervene cure any disease anywhere. If that stuff worked we wouldn`t have needed to invent Asprin.
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    @grindinblade I don`t know how you expect me to respond to this, you`re embodying the "Sh*t Atheists say to Christians" and acting like my entire post said "KILL INFIDELS! BURN IN HELL SCUMBAGS!" which it didn`t, and which isn`t the message of Christianity. If you look any deeper than what you hear and want to believe, you`ll find that Christianity (having no relation, except prophecy, to the Old Testament) is about love (and yep, I just asked "Have you ever even read the Bible?"). The first time you knowingly did something that contradicted the law, you fell short of perfection. A mentally handicapped child? I believe in the age of accountability, that no one is held by their actions until they have the capacity to understand the difference between choosing right and choosing wrong. The third part is so inflammatory and trollish that it hardly deserves an answer, but I will say that humans are corrupt, and the church is just as capable of committing sin
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    @AWalrus
    I think you`ll find also that most sound Christians don`t simply believe that it`s part of God`s plan for people to die.

    I think you`ll find that a lot of them do. And how could they not? If all this suffering is not part of god`s plan then he is definitely not the loving father god they revere. How could a loving father know all this pain is going on and do nothing to stop it? You know what we call parents who would let their children suffer horribly for no reason other than punishment? We call them unfit parents and their children get taken away.
    What`s more, after we`ve suffered through this life, if we don`t worship him then he sends us to be tortured for all eternity. He punishes his children for a finite crime with infinite punishment. No lesson to learn, no hope for parole. Torture for torture`s sake
    God is an unfit parent on a cosmic scale and there is no one to save us
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    Finally, the love that true christians (I say true christians not meaning perfect people, but people striving to live in a way we see as pleasing to God, even though yes, we`re hypocrites and f*ck up as much as anyone else) show comes not from commandments, but as a natural response to the love we were all shown. Do I believe that you, being a nonchristian, are incapable of doing good? Not at all. But I do stand firmly that you`re missing out on something amazing. I understand that you don`t believe that and you don`t have to, but I think that there are better ways to have a debate than by responding with broad, inflammatory statements.

    And @Reboot, I meant to respond to your question about faith earlier, but I forgot when my post went long. The first instance that comes to my head is Ephesians 2:8 and 9 " For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
    "
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 4:52 pm
    @AWalrus
    I believe that God gave us a choice in the garden because he didn`t want a race of mindless slaves who loved him because they were programm

    I have a question about this. So god cannot abide sin. Therefor in heaven there is no sin. For it to be paradise the humans there must also NOT WANT to sin or how could they be in paradise?
    But so much of what makes us human or at least makes us who we are as people is also defined by the lord as sinful.
    So if when we get to heaven we no longer have the desire to sin, we don`t have much of the driving force that makes us what we are in life then what was the point of creating us the way he did? If god wanted the perfect, sin-free beings we must be in heaven, why didn`t he create us that way in the first place. what`s so important about free will to a being who already knows everything that could possibly happen?
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    Ephesians 2:8 and 9 " For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

    Thanks for giving it the effort AWalrus
    But this quote seems to say nothing about my question of where does it say god wants us to have faith rather than knowledge of his existence.

    This passage refers to salvation being a result of faith in the lord and not of the things a man does in god`s name.
    By which i mean it`s saying "you have gained grace because of your faith in the lord, not because you did this good deed or that"

    any other possibilities?
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 5:08 pm
    @AWalrus/ any christians here

    Why is god going to torture me for eternity simply for being the person he made me?
    Before anyone says "you have free will, you choose who you are" or whatever that`s partially true. But not when it comes to faith
    The way i am and the way i`ve been for as long as i can remember is that if i`m unconvinced by evidence put forth on any subject, i don`t believe it and i question it. God would know this about me, he would know i`m incapable of faith the way he`s asking for it. How can he know this about me and still condemn me to an eternity of torment?
    I am incapable of faith, trust me i`ve tried to get it. reading the bible, talking with people who understand it better than i.It just isn`t there for me.
    Would you ask a man with no legs to run?
    How can he be this loving figure of the new testament if he sees that i have this deficiency and still sentences me to suffer for ever until the end of time?

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    Zuriel Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    people who need someone else to blame, believe in a god.
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    "But so much of what makes us human or at least makes us who we are as people is also defined by the lord as sinful." I disagree with that on a fundamental level, and maintain that we will be perfected through Christ in heaven, and that we`ll be far better off for it.

    God, according to the Bible (which I rely on as the word of God. There are many more and better answers to all of your questions there than from me) has angels worshiping him day and night, who have no choice but to do so. If accept, for the sake of argument, that there is a God who, although he allows the consequences of sin to fall on the world, loves you and all of those around you more than you could ever love yourself and wants to spend eternity with you, then it shouldn`t be difficult to understand why I feel that he is worthy of our worship. And that`s why free will matters, because when we actively choose to love God back, it means more to him than any amount of forced worship.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    athiest...believers

    seriously, do you two morons have nothing better to do than get in each others poo?

    I am a believer, many of my friends are not or believe something differently than I do and guess what? we get along fine and never argue about this crap bc we respect each others right to be who we are and believe what we want

    annnddddd

    WE ARE NOT THREATENED BY THINGS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM US.

    if you are on here defending either side, smack yourself and possibly the person next to you and get over the BS. not as many people are you think give a rats ass what you believe and you most likely are going out of your way to find people that do and want to argue with you...so go find some real meaning in your life and stop worrying about what others do or do not believe in and what they do or do not think about you.

    trust me...there will be a lot less of everything bad in the world if you follow that basic set of instruc
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    Trumple07 Male 13-17
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    January 17, 2012 at 6:44 pm
    jamie76: "trust me...there will be a lot less of everything bad in the world if you follow that basic set of instruc"

    There would be a lot less of everything bad in the world without religion :)
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    Trumple07

    Hitler, Lenin and Stalin were atheist...so by your logic there would be a lot less bad without them atheist also since between those three they managed to wipe out millions.

    point is INTOLERANCE is what drives wars...that goes for believers and non-believers and your idea that if you elimante religion you wipe out more "bad" is silly.

    both sides, say it again, STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE DO OR DO NOT BELIEVE AND WHAT THEY DO OR DO NOT THINK ABOUT YOU. simple, effect and even believers and atheist can agree there is no room for argument in there...wait, nm I`m sure some truly talented moron from one side or the other will find a way to try and sound cleaver and argue and completely idiotic point against it...
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    Loud mouth atheists. Loud mouthed christians. Quiet meditating buddhists. goat raping satanists. I hope when you all die, you all end up in small library, where you have to spend an eternity with each other.
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    mabongrrl Female 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 7:46 pm
    the caption is wrong. it`s "see you in hell! ...From heaven" Come on, IAB.
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:00 pm
    @jamie76, logical people aren`t threatened. You are a logical person as are your friends. I`ve met plenty of believers (not just Christians, either) that are unnecessarily threatened by atheists and get defensive for next to no reason. I know maybe two atheists that will start a debate with a Christian just to "prove a point." These people are not my friends.

    On another note, my mom LOVES to use the "you`ll change your mind when you have kids of your own" line. I don`t even know if children are in my future.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    "Hitler, Lenin and Stalin were atheist..."

    Hitler was a Roman Catholic, and whither or not he was actually a practicing Catholic later, he did get the Church to support and help him, which is problematic for the Church regardless of what Hitlers `faith` really was. Stalin and Lenin were certainly athiests, however the atrocities were not commited in the name of `atheism`.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    While I respect Christians and Muslims that say that they are moderate and do not wish the death of non-believers, I hold them in suspicion. It`s like a tamed wolf; it may feed from a bowl at your feet, but one day it or one of its pups may tear out your throat, as it is the nature of the beast.

    In daily life I am not a `loud-mouthed atheist`. I cannot be. The religious imperative is so strong that it`s one of the few things that can drive peaceful people to shouting or altercation.

    Likewise, there is little point in debating among a community entirely composed of atheists. I thank IAB for giving us this opportunity.
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    ByOwlPost Female 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:12 pm
    Flame war.. oh my goodness, people have differences, one human being is rude to another. In the end, nobody is gonna get along. Have fun! :P
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    Whether or not Hitler was an atheist or catholic, he had God on his side, or at least God`s followers.

    Pius XI and his secretary of state, threatened by secular communism, sided with fascist movements.

    Through the Concordat of 1933 the church officially sanctioned Catholics joining the Nazi party and abstained from politics (dissent from Nazi policies), a major boost to Hitler`s prestige and supported the rise of the party.

    When Hitler appointed Alfred Rosenberg the state`s official philosopher the Catholic church protested.

    Look up Archbishop Gröber, Bishops Berning, Bertram, Buchberger, Hilfrich, etc.

    Pius XII never protested Nazi wartime attrocities, least of all the Holocaust. After the war, he and his church aided Nazis` escape from justice.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    I very rarely hear this kind of thing in my real-life daily interactions. But then, I`ve always lived in fairly secular societies - the UK, Netherlands, and now Canada. And I have no objection or opposition to people`s individual beliefs: I have many Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, Pagan, etc friends and work colleagues who I get along with swimmingly.

    The only place I encounter this kind of deeply retarded, mouth-breathing, glassy-eyed condescension is on the forums here at I-A-B.

    My recent favourite from our old stalwart Crakrjak (and I quote): "What is there to motivate an atheist doctor or nurse, to give the best care, besides money ? Answer, Nothing."

    A fairly typical caricature of exactly the type of person this video was referencing.
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:29 pm
    @AWalrus

    there is a God who, although he allows the consequences of sin to fall on the world, loves you and all of those around you more than you could ever love yourself and wants to spend eternity with you, then it shouldn`t be difficult to understand why I feel that he is worthy of our worship


    This kind of glosses over the fact that this being who loves me so damn much is also going to condemn me to eternal torture for reasons beyond my control. This god you have no trouble worshiping decides that if i`m not at his side in worship then i`ll burn in the pit in agony. It certainly doesn`t sounds like he loves me more than i love myself. I can think of no one i hate enough tp torture for eternity yet this is something god allows to happen to those he "loves".
    You may think that god is worthy of worship but i sure don`t
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:37 pm
    @AWalrus

    when we actively choose to love God back, it means more to him than any amount of forced worship.

    So you know what god wants? What`s important to him? Sounds like pure conjecture, like my earlier question on the assertion that god values faith over knowledge of his presence

    citation needed

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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    @davymid
    My recent favourite from our old stalwart Crakrjak (and I quote)....

    lol it`s true. I was so reminded of Crakr when i watched this vid
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    @AWalrus
    we will be perfected through Christ in heaven

    I wonder about that. So there will be no thoughts of lust in heaven? It would have to be so because if you`ve sinned in your mind then you`ve already sinned against the lord. Hard to imagine considering how much of our lives dependent on male/female relationships and sexual motivation.

    We will have to give up the most meaningful relationships in our mortal lives because no one in heaven is married to each other:

    "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matthew 22:30

    Your wife is no longer your wife, your husband no longer your husband. Does that sound like paradise to you?
    It also mentions that we will be like the angels so....god prizes our free will over the angels blind worship but when we get to heaven we will be exactly like them. That does track well with what you were saying about free
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    ....will

    lol

    totally worth a new post
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    January 17, 2012 at 9:50 pm
    `My recent favourite from our old stalwart Crakrjak (and I quote): "What is there to motivate an atheist doctor or nurse, to give the best care, besides money ? Answer, Nothing."`

    I wonder about people like that. It seems they have no internal moral compass, no empathy, no compassion. If they realised that god was a fiction, they`d swiftly be out there raping people`s grandmothers.
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    Otto67 Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    "What is there to motivate an atheist doctor or nurse, to give the best care, besides money ? Answer, Nothing."

    If the only thing that keeps someone morally motivated to be a good and ethical person is a belief in an invisible friend then it is obviously important that they continue to believe, especially to those they have dealings with....kinda sad though.
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    "...for reasons beyond my control." If you`re accepting for sake of argument that God exists and has decided that humans don`t match his scale for perfection, then I ask you to also accept for sake of argument that God *has* given us control over out eternal fate, in the form of his plan through Jesus.

    Also,
    Romans 10:9 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved."
    If you accept (again for argument) the Bible`s claim of Jesus`s divinity, then there is the passage (among others) that claim that God (specifically Jesus, being a part of God) desires our faith in his will for our lives.

    As for heaven, I have to say that I cannot comprehend eternity or perfection any more you, but I have faith in the words of script
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    AWalrus Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 10:28 pm
    ...scripture that say it`s going to be one hell of a lot better than this life. Yes, that requires faith, but it is a faith that I have decided is worth having. Whether or not you have decided that saddens me, because I can say without any hesitation that my life since becoming a Christian has been a phenomenal improvement, as promised in John 10:10 when Jesus says "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the fullest."
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:27 pm
    "I wonder about people like that. It seems they have no internal moral compass, no empathy, no compassion. If they realised that god was a fiction, they`d swiftly be out there raping people`s grandmothers."

    Well said! One who believes that God is the sole vanguard between civilization and moral anarchy is saying far more about themselves then they realize. I`m an atheist and a doctor. I care passionately and deeply for my clients (patients). Not only because I owe it to them and it makes me feel good, but because that`s what I would want if I were in their shoes.

    I believe that being a good person because I want to be is a lot more fulfilling than being a good person so that I can go to heaven.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:39 pm
    A quick count from the video, and I`ve personally had 16 out of 19 of these arguments/questions/blithering non sequiturs directed at me.

    I used to be a Christian, but now it just makes no sense to me. Some being creates an entire universe just to make life on one speck of it to worship Him? Then He sets humans up with a way to become intelligent and immortal, but tells the morally-oblivious people He created not to do that? What did He expect would happen? He then punishes not just them, but anyone else EVER for those people doing the inevitable.

    Then there`s the archeology not matching up with the Bible (time tables being wrong, no mention of evolution, no worldwide flood, etc...). And finally, He has to impregnate some chick with Himself so He can get killed, so He can forgive us for the situation He set up in the first place?

    Sorry, that`s just too ridiculous for me to believe.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:40 pm
    "The "I`ll pray for you" is honestly the worst to me. It`s really malicious if you think about it."

    The first time some one told me that, I wanted to reply, "and I`ll fap to you." But I didn`t.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    January 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    I dont believe in Satan but hey, why not...
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 18, 2012 at 6:19 am
    @Cyberdyne: Except that the upside-down cross isn`t a satanic symbol, rather, it`s the symbol of the first pope, so that`s actually a religious cat you just posted.
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 18, 2012 at 10:11 am
    @AWalrus

    then I ask you to also accept for sake of argument that God *has* given us control over out eternal fate, in the form of his plan through Jesus.

    it is a faith that I have decided is worth having. Whether or not you have decided that saddens me

    I think i know what you`re saying. Accept jesus and you will be saved right? Believe he is the son of god, have faith. But you can`t ask that "for the sake of argument" i be other than i am.
    That second quote comes off as condescending. I already explained that faith is not something i`ve chosen to be without. Either the message in the bible speaks to you, resonates with some part of you, or it doesn`t. I never chose not to believe and i can`t decide to have faith when i don`t.

    Again, god would know this, he would know that faith is beyond me. According to you he loves me more than i can even imagine but he`s still gonna let me burn forever. Nice father.
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 18, 2012 at 10:29 am
    @AWalrus

    Romans 10:9 "That if you confess with your mouth...


    This passage simply says that you must profess your love for jesus and that the faith in your heart will validate your words. I know that god wants us to have faith but this says nothing about god wanting us to have faith in him and not knowledge. Why did the ancients get miracles and signs all over the place? Why do we
    have to have faith when he gave them knowledge?
    If god loves me so much and wants me to be with him why wouldn`t get off his ass and save me? I`ve strayed from the flock and i can`t find my way back without his help. But apparently god is just giving me a big "fu­­ck you" burn, as­­shole lol.
    Why is he going to torture me?
    Because i didn`t choose not to have faith any more than i chose to be strait. That`s just who i am.
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
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    January 18, 2012 at 10:34 am
    I cannot comprehend eternity or perfection any more you, but I have faith in the words of scripture...

    Yeah i`ve heard that from pretty much every christian when i bring up issues of heaven like that. It does sound sh­itty to you and to them. You can`t reconcile the promise of paradise with the evidence from your own holy book that makes it seem kinda crappy. So you shut off your brain and bleat "i have faith"
    That is what saddens me
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    January 18, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    I believe I would hit that.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 18, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    "The "I`ll pray for you" is honestly the worst to me. It`s really malicious if you think about it."

    It is, but it`s the usual mindless maliciousness of religion. They`re not usually deliberately nasty. They`ve replaced thought with faith, so in many cases they genuinely can`t understand how much they`re insulting you.

    I`ve never met a person like that who I`ve had any respect for, so it doesn`t really bother me in practice. When someone whose opinion is of no importance to me insults me because they`re too dumb to realise what they`re doing, I don`t really care. They want to talk in their head to their imaginary psycho gang leader, fine. Nothing to do with me.
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    Oblongata Female 18-29
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    January 18, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    I`m an atheist. This video sucked.
    Not as good as the others.
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