Romney Caught In a Lie

Submitted by: madest 5 years ago in

Romney"s called out on a blatant lie.
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Male 17,512
Gerry: I thought you had more fashion sense than that, perhaps that`s just a stereotype though.
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Male 542
I really don`t like how I can`t put the 1-finger cursor icon solely in the middle of youtube`s pause button. Always 1-pixel off center. Pisses me off.
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Male 5,811
[quote]You`re an idealist, I`m a skeptic, You`re a dreamer, I`m a realist.[/quote]

Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man.
-Nietzsche
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Male 39,619

Granted, politicians will not give up their money, ever. But they
should be honest about who they really represent. Make them
dress like this . . .


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Male 17,512
jtrebowski: [quote]all campaigns should be solely publicly financed by the tax-payers with a spending limit.[/quote]

Not going to work, and I`ll tell you why. Most candidates are religious and they mention it in their campaign ads. If the government gets involved in funding campaigns then the atheists will scream about public money promoting religion, then the whole damn thing falls apart over the 1st amendment again.

Also, is the government going to pay for those millions of dollars of TV ads as well ? If not, then how are you going to force the TV stations to air them for free ?

You`re an idealist, I`m a skeptic, You`re a dreamer, I`m a realist. I was once a lot like you are. I believed it could all be changed into a unified perfect system. Then it kicked me in the head, that making such a system would violate everyone`s rights and we`d all be living in tyranny. What was started with good intentions would soon turn into a crushing Orwellian regime.
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Male 17,512
[cont]

So unless you plan on gutting the 1at amendment of the constitution, and revoking your own right to free speech in the process, then you are fighting windmills like Don Quixote.

The only thing we can do is support the truly honest and most forthright politicians that we can, and hope they will do what is right.

I don`t condone corruption, I`ve just realized that it`s not controllable, the only partial remedy is reporting on who is giving the money, and how much, to the candidates and educating voters about that funding.
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Male 3,369
@CJ: That why all campaigns should be solely publicly financed by the tax-payers with a spending limit. I`m sure you think it`s a pipe dream, and it may very well be, but it`s the right thing to do.
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Male 15,187
Same old, same old. Elect big business elect Romney.
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Male 17,512
jtrebowski: [quote]Campaign finance reform is not a new concept[/quote]

No sh|t Sherlock, and I`M NOT CONDONING IT! DAMN, YOU ARE A HARD HEADED SOB AREN`T YOU ?

I don`t care what kind of `Campaign Finance Reform` bill is drafted, it will be drafted in such a way that there are loopholes.

You may ask why ? I`ll tell you why, because the lawmakers in control are not going to cut off their nose to spite their face. For every reform solution that has come along another way around it has as well, it`s been going on for 200 years.

Even if you drafted a bill saying the candidates, senators and representatives couldn`t take any money at all, Friends, lobbyists, and corporations will form their own groups and campaign for the candidate without any guidance.

There is no way you can stop free speech in that regard, the supreme court has already upheld cases on the subject.
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Male 39,619

@ jtrebowski - The problem with campaign finance reform is that it`s been tried several times. Each time Big Corporations spend millions on lobbyists and pvt vacations for Congressmen...excuse me, those are "Fact finding missions in Aruba" for him and his family. My point is, when it`s tried the Corps just up the price the politicians get and we get screwed again.

At this point the Corps will not give up their power without a fight. Certainly not because the teaming unwashed masses voted to take their power away. They`ve busted unions before.
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Male 132
Romney is trying t make his campaign sound different. The funny part is that the majority could easily make the same claim. Also, I find it hilarious that Romney can never let anything go. By going to the reporter afterwards, he is only drawing attention to the matter. It also reminds me of the `you callin` me a liar?` defense that people use when lying
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Male 3,369
Oh..and were all those reporters questioning Obamas birth certificate "run out of town"?
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Male 3,369
@Gerry: Yeah...I`m sure I`ll do the same..lol. @Crakrjak: Yeah, but making observations is one thing...condoning it is another. You`ve never been shy in showing your disdain for people who have been protesting to get this kind of money out of politics. Campaign finance reform is not a new concept, and the mechanisms to make it a reality are already in existence. We just have to find a way to put them into place. I don`t think it`s as hard as you guys make it out to be. The main thing that`s stopping it is you and other conservatives "it`ll never happen" attitude.
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Male 17,512
madest: If a reporter had done this to Obama in 2008, he`d have been called racist and ran out of town.

jtrebowski: I`m not defending Romney or "same ol` same ol` politics", just telling it like it is and always has been.

Go ahead, go on a crusade over it, see how far it gets you. Do you honestly think politicians are going to hamstring themselves from getting campaign money ? Not even "armed conflict" will change that Mr. Robespierre.
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Male 39,619

@ RobSwindol - They ARE paid senior staff members. No, Romney isn`t paying them, the corporation that funds the lobbyist is paying them. But they are not doing it for free, they are paid to run that campaign.

Think of it as the cowboy hired to get the beef to market...he rides heard on the candidate and hopes his prize bull wins over the other corporations prize pig.

Do you understand American politics now?

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Male 39,619

@ jtrebowski and @ Corpsecrank

Thank you, thank you. But don`t worry, I will say plenty of other
stupid schit in the future, have no fears.
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Male 329
liar liar pants on fire
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Male 2,528
I`m not pulling for Romney, but I don`t see how that`s a lie.

Every candidate familiarizes with lobbyists, but as long as those lobbyists aren`t paid, senior staff members of his campaign, then you really can`t say that they are "running his campaign".

Just because someone sits in a meeting doesn`t mean that they have any input into said meeting.

I actually think Mitt was correct in this instance and handled himself and the situation well. I have a little more respect for his composure. But I`m still not voting for him.
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Male 3,369
CrakrJak is still defending "same ol` same ol`" politics. [email protected] conservatives :-)
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Male 646
Being argumentative with the candidate is "out of line".

;-)
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Male 3,369
Gerry10f1: "Large corporations spend hundreds of millions of dollars on lobbyists and campaign contributions. In effect they purchase politicians. Campaign Reform was a joke. It is illegal for a politician to accept $30,000 from a lobbyist. But if the lobbyist hosts a "fundraiser dinner" then he can give the politician $30,000 and dinner legal.

Naturally the politicians are representing the ones who pay for their compaigns, not real people. And there is not a damn thing short of armed conflict that will change the situation. If any politician actually tried, the money would dry up and he`d no long be electable.

In short, we have a show-democracy. Yes we vote, but there is debate whether they are counted or not. And in the end, money determines the winner really."
----------------OMG..you`re becoming a Liberal. Welcome to the OWS movement. You are officially pardoned for al the dumb stuff you`ve said in the past. Meanwhile, Crak
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Male 2,737
Wonder if Mitt punched one of his cronys in the face when he jumped in his limo and drove away,out of anger and frustration?
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Male 39,619

Here`s an explaination of how to purchase a politician.
Yes, Colbert gives it a humerous slant, but it`s still true.

Anonymous Shell Corporation
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Male 1,293
That would be one of the same AP reporters who completely ignore Barrack Obama telling basically the same lie. Hypocrite.
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Male 928
@ Gerry1of1 Ok I have to admit that comment pretty much makes up for all the crap you say on here in one shot.
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Male 282
Romney and Newt are just programmable fascist, be sure. Filth.
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Male 148
when America was a true super power the press had respect. FDR would never be elected today.
so instead we get bush and clinton.
good Job!!!!!
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Male 25,417
lolz
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Male 840
[quote]just how dirty is american politics?[/quote]

It is drating filthy. It is as if the mafia were running the country. It is organized crime.
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Male 39,619

emmettyville [quote]"just how dirty is american politics?" [/quote]
Large corporations spend hundreds of millions of dollars on lobbyists and campaign contributions. In effect they purchase politicians. Campaign Reform was a joke. It is illegal for a politician to accept $30,000 from a lobbyist. But if the lobbyist hosts a "fundraiser dinner" then he can give the politician $30,000 and dinner legal.

Naturally the politicians are representing the ones who pay for their compaigns, not real people. And there is not a damn thing short of armed conflict that will change the situation. If any politician actually tried, the money would dry up and he`d no long be electable.

In short, we have a show-democracy. Yes we vote, but there is debate whether they are counted or not. And in the end, money determines the winner really.
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Male 15,832
I`m not a big Romney fan, but I think he got the better of this one.
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Female 4,359
just how dirty is american politics?
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Female 683
Don`t be argumentative with the candidate? Wtf are we supposed to do? He wants to run our country! They should be happy that citizens are actively participating in politics. People are dumb. Jeeeeze.
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Male 886
Pardon me, A real person. An intelligent one, that has honor, foresight, integrity, and isn`t afraid to admit they are only human and have made mistakes.
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Male 886
Screw Mitt Romney and every other wannabe career politician.

Every one of them are liars. He acts like a child just like they all do when caught trying to use that silver tongue.

I never had sexual relations....blah blah blah

Every one of them tries to imply they don`t do what the others do, but they all have learned to play the "game" of politics. It is simply a game of power to them, and I promise you, not ONE of them has any interest in mind but their own.

We need a real American on the ballot to vote for...not these weasels.
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Male 10,440
I think, with the deplorable state of your system, it`s safe to assume lobbyists are everywhere, and if your position is that they aren`t, the burden of proof is on you.

Having said that, arguing that you don`t involve yourself with lobbyists is irrelevant, since everyone does. The proper response should have been, yes, I am involved with lobbyists, however they haven`t affected my stance on X, Y, Z, or whatever.

What`s with all the BS? Is the poor redneck fool that votes for this guy supposed to assume that behind all that, this guy has integrity?

Are people voting for this loon just because of appearance?

It`s a joke. Your whole system of politics is a joke, from start to freaking finish.
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Male 1,243
It really just shows how utterly puerile the modern US political system has become. Admittedly I can`t claim that it`s much better anywhere else either,
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Male 7,378
You already have a country run by corporations CJ. You want to switch because of race?
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Male 17,512
madest: Compared to Obama, Romney would be a vast improvement, but then again any of the Republican candidates, except for Ron Paul, would be an improvement.
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Male 468
This is from last campaign. Any follow up on the reporter? Did he meet with him afterwards?
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Male 39,619

@ MrPeabody - the people in the strategy meetings are running the campaign. The rest are just workers. He can call him a "strategist" all he wants, he`s still involved in implementing the campaign which is defacto "running it".

When Romney says he doesn`t have lobbyists running the campaign he`s A: implying the other candidates do and B: that he`s not in bed with lobbyists.

A = True
B = False

But did any of you expect any candidate to actually represent people? They represent their owners interests, the ones that gave them millions for a capaign.
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Male 878
Wow you can`t be "argumentative with the candidate". These a-hole politicians should try appearing on the Today program in the UK and see what happens to them.
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Male 650
@ MrPeabody. He may not be a campaign manager, but lets ignore Romney`s comment "I don`t have lobbyists running my campaign" and focus on not "link(ing) closer to lobbyists". It would seem to me that having a top adviser who is a lobbyist contradicts that statement. just because he isn`t a campaign manager or that he isn`t paid means nothing.
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Male 7,378
[quote]All politicians have `friends` in the backroom that `advise` them. They aren`t in the official meetings but they do have influence.[/quote] --------------
Perhaps but most politicians aren`t going to lie right to the face of the press that has been following their campaign. Makes me question his judgement. What a disaster Magic Underpants would be.
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Male 17,512
All politicians have `friends` in the backroom that `advise` them. They aren`t in the official meetings but they do have influence.
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Male 1,920
I`m no big fan of Romney, but this is just grasping at straws. He said he doesn`t have lobbyists running his campaign. Ron Kaufman is an adviser, not running the campaign, a fact that an educated reporter should be able to understand. He is also probably one of many advisers. Given the number of companies he has represented means he probably has a lot of insight into Washington politics which would be valuable to any campaign.
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Male 39,619
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Male 2,670
He`s about to dispatch some snow-white Mormon wrath!

LISTEN TO MY WORDS, GLEN...
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Male 312
A politician lying?! Who would of thought...
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Male 7,378
Link: Romney Caught In a Lie [Rate Link] - Romney`s called out on a blatant lie.
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