Rick Perry Wants Troops Sent Back To Iraq

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago

He states Obama does not understand what"s going on in that region...does he understand?
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Male 506
@CrakrJak, is it more delusional than thinking that one nation can prevent the entire world from repeating histroy without driving itself into eventual collapse?
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Male 10,845
Lastly Hitler and Hirohito were busy conquering the world, meanwhile the Kim regime is busy trying to keep its citizens from escaping.
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Male 10,845
[quote]North Korea has dug hidden tunnels under the DMZ (Only a few have been found) they could easily capture the majority of South`s armaments, and ours too, on that peninsula and it would take months for us to haggle and form a `coalition` to do anything about it.[/quote]

So not-so-secret tunnels = force multiplier, I find that logic incredibly fuzzy.

[quote]It`s better that we stay prepared and vigilant and not isolationist, Isolationism makes a country appear weak.[/quote]

Read a dictionary, there`s a difference between "isolationist" and "non-interventionist". Also overexertion of a country`s military ACTUALLY makes said country weak.

[quote]and the Maginot line, was Patton once said, "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man..", as is the current DMZ.[/quote]

Hitler invaded France via Belgium, which the Maginot line was NOT extended to.
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Male 17,512
patchgrabber: The only thing I fear is this world going to sh|t because some isolationist like Ron Paul thinks history won`t repeat itself.

Cajun: Your assessment of the North Korean military is bullsh|t, North Korea has dug hidden tunnels under the DMZ (Only a few have been found) they could easily capture the majority of South`s armaments, and ours too, on that peninsula and it would take months for us to haggle and form a `coalition` to do anything about it.

Hitler`s Germany and Hirohito`s Japan were once underestimated as well, and the Maginot line, was Patton once said, "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man..", as is the current DMZ.

Yes, we would eventually destroy North Korea, but not before Seoul was left in ruins and we lost thousands of men. Not to mention it would piss China off royally.

It`s better that we stay prepared and vigilant and not isolationist, Isolationism makes a country appear weak.
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Male 10,845
[quote] That was said during the Vietnam War.[/quote]

Actually we could`ve defeated the North if we really wanted to. The problem was we didn`t want to start a war with China.
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Male 5,811
@Cajun:

I wouldn`t worry too much about Crakr, he`s in a permanent state of fear, the cause of which I can only speculate.

[quote]why should we just hand over Iraq to them ?[/quote]

Maybe you should have thought of that one before Dubya decided to illegally depose the lawful government, and plunge the country into a world of sh|t that is actually worse than it was before under that other a$$hole. Sure is easy bringing "freedom" by the sword. You had no business in there and if Iran comes in and takes over it`s the fault of the US.
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Male 14,330
[quote]I find it hard to believe how the biggest army of farmers can take on the competent might of their neighbors to the south.[/quote]


That was said during the Vietnam War.
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Male 14,774
God* help America if he wins.

*or any other imaginary entity.
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Male 10,845
This on top of the fact that the South spends over ten times as much as North Korea does on its military, I find it hard to believe how the biggest army of farmers can take on the competent might of their neighbors to the south.
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Male 10,845
[quote"> You`ve been smoking too much hash there bud.[/quote">

Really now?

[quote"> Soviet Russia is gone ? One of the highest ranked KGB spies ever is in charge there, Putin is a wild card.[/quote">

So what has Russia done lately that make us alarmed.

As for Korea that`s a backward assessment of the situation. If they wanted the SOUTH could actually overrun the North before we could even mobilize our own forces. The North Korean army spends most of its time farming rather than training. Their equipment is poorly maintained, and their entire military is poorly supplied. Two-thirds of their air force consist of dinosaurs.
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Male 17,512
Cajun: [quote]Iran`s not a big deal Soviet Russia is gone The North Korean military is a joke.[/quote]

Iran is not a big deal ? You`ve been smoking too much hash there bud.

Soviet Russia is gone ? One of the highest ranked KGB spies ever is in charge there, Putin is a wild card.

The North Korean military is a joke ? Estimates say that North Korea could overrun Seoul within 24-48 hrs. They have the 5th largest standing army in the world and outnumber the South`s army and American forces 3 to 1.
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Male 10,845
Iran`s not a big deal
Soviet Russia is gone
The North Korean military is a joke.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3800
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Male 10,845
[quote] they had a lot of strategic value[/quote]

Doing what exactly? If anything it`s more of an incentive for them to lean on us rather than step up and build their own militaries.
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Male 10,845
[quote] No, they had a lot of strategic value and so would keeping bases in Iraq, Iran is very dangerous, why should we just hand over Iraq to them ?[/quote]

Doing what exactly? Not that their regime isn`t evil but they haven`t been giving IAEA the runaround. Even if we could keep our soldiers there, they`d have to be subject to the local laws. Since the admin wasn`t in the position to renegotiate the SOFA, that was one of many serious strings they couldn`t cut. As for Iranian extremism the mullahs know better than to give any weapons to Hezbollah or Hamas. Lastly it was our meddling that gave them the opportunity.
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Male 17,512
Cajun: [quote]Yes which cost a pretty penny and have no strategic value.[/quote]

No, they had a lot of strategic value and so would keeping bases in Iraq, Iran is very dangerous, why should we just hand over Iraq to them ?

And if you`re worried about cost, ask yourself this, what more would it cost us if we allow Iranian islamic extremism to grow ?
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Male 1,582
Can I write in a name on the ballet? If so I`m writing in Christopher Langan.
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Male 5,811
@cajun: Sorry, I might have misinterpreted your meaning.
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Male 10,845
@patchgrabber

I say let the states fund it, they did that before the 1960s. To be clear though I`m not saying get rid of public education, but not let`s not go so far as to keep children out of the work force though.
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Male 1,832
Iranians can move at the speed of light? I guess you learn something every day.
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Male 5,811
[quote]That way they can become literate with less expense to the taxpayer.[/quote]

I know you`re a libertarian Cajun, but this is a pretty bad idea. If every kid had to get a job to pay for schooling, how many of these obviously no-skill-required jobs could there possibly be? Also, if dumb parents decide they don`t want to pay for their child`s education, I think you`re likely to see Idiocracy incarnate in the US. Unless you want to hear "But it has electrolytes" from the next generations, keep education government-funded.
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Male 10,845
Gerry

1)There are plenty of things children can do to earn their way into the world besides working in dangerous factories. That way they can become literate with less expense to the taxpayer.
2)So? Why should I care? The current rules prohibit teaching of creationism anyways.
3)So money is not being withheld from my paycheck and going towards the older, dare I say, investors? Sounds like I`m supporting the elderly at my own expense. But if that`s the issue I suggest prohibiting taking money from the trust fund for other purposes and mandate that it would be paid back in full by the end of the next admin.

Ron Paul 2012
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Male 37,888

Cajun: [quote]Exagerration - Unimportant - Because the system is in place at my generation`s expense, yes [/quote]
1: He`s on record saying children do not have a right to free education. If not, then it must be something you buy, meaning the rich get it and the poor don`t. Put them to work like Newt wants?
2: Not unimportant. He said he does not believe in the theory of evolution. He believes in Devine Creation. What other ju-ju will he invoke?
3: NOT at your expense. They paid into the SSI system for DECADES! If congress stole the money your problem is with them, not with the elderly.

Ron Paul - Nuttier than Squirrel Schit.
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Male 5,811
Even if he had a cogent point he lost me at "literally the speed of light."
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Male 10,440
If he moves in at the speed of light, then you won`t be able to stop him. Not even if you yourselves tried to move in at the speed of light.
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Female 2,525
Literally.
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Male 412
LOL @ "literally at the speed of light"

Anyway, military strategic decisions should never be made for political election points. Period.

Some may say that`s the way Obama`s acted (I disagree), but it`s certainly Perry`s motivation here.
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Male 10,845
[quote]There is a difference between `occupying` and having bases in a country that is our ally. America had bases in Germany & Japan for decades after WWII ended.[/quote]

Yes which cost a pretty penny and have no strategic value.
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Male 2,988
Rick Perry literally doesn`t know the definition of literally... or just how fast the speed of light it... dumbass either way for that comment.
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Male 2,988
Rick Perry: "we are going to see Iran move in at literally the speed of light"

Me: /facepalm
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Male 17,512
davymid: There is a difference between `occupying` and having bases in a country that is our ally. America had bases in Germany & Japan for decades after WWII ended.
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Male 17,512
madest: Vietnam is not `our ally`, they are still communist, we just have better relations with them now.

Iran is much more dangerous than North Vietnam ever thought of being, and you think that the government is covering up UFOs.
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Male 12,138
Crakrjak said: "Despite the `speed of light` exaggeration, Perry has a point here. Iraq could become West Iran..."

True, we`ve known that for a long time. This is why Dick Cheney back in 1994 said that occupying Iraq would have been a bad idea.

He was entirely prescient. We shouldn`t be in this position in the first place. Please watch this short clip.
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Male 192
putting this clip through my politic speak decipher ..... "My stocks in weapon companies are going to be worth less then they were, so i want them to make more money for me." Did anyone else hear that while he was talking?
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Male 7,378
Wow he makes GWB look like Einstein. Something very wrong with the educational system in Texas.

@CJ, Vietnam is now our ally. You`re correct though in that the reasons for the war in Vietnam were also based on lies.
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Male 37,888

I was expecting him to say something along the lines of "Iraq is like a box of chocolates..."

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Male 626
Mr. Perry, I`m pretty sure Iranians can`t travel at light-speed. Anyway, I think we need a president who will commit to alternative energy, even if it`s natural gas or something, just so we can leave the Middle East to destroy itself.
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Male 6,227
Actually, I`m a little surprised the audience didn`t stand up and cheer. I`m not being sarcastic, either.
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Female 9,402
I could totally see Rich Perry riding the short bus.
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Male 6,227
Rick Perry: He may have an IQ hovering around 90, and he may want the U.S. to fight yet another misguided war, for which we have NO MONEY, and which will only hasten the American decline.

But he looks like you could have a beer with him and he looks good in a suit--which is all that really matters, isn`t it?

~BIG face paw~
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Male 446
Rick. Show by example. You fly over there, suit up, and disarm them IEDs laying about all the place. We`ll be right behind ya.
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Male 2,085
I know it would probably pain Gerry just a little bit to have conservative agree with him, but he is right; Ron Paul is indeed nuttier than squirrel poo.
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Male 6,227
Wow. I`m speechless on this one.
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Male 2,085
Do people forget we still have troops in Germany, Japan, and Korea and those wars were fought over sixty years ago.
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Male 10,845
@Gerry1of1

Exagerration
Unimportant
Because the system is in place at my generation`s expense, yes
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Male 14
RON PAUL!!!
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Male 37,888

Ron Paul 2012? You`re kidding right?
The guy who does not think children should have an education?
The guy who does not believe evolution is real?
The guy who would cut your Granny off social security?

I like his foreign policy but on every other topic he`s nuttier than squirrel poo.
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Male 123
Ron Paul Revolution 2012-2020
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Male 260
RonPaul 2012
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Male 531
Heres an idea, lets fix our freaking country before we worry about others?? Sounds like a good one to me
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Female 735
"We`re gonna see Iran, in my opinion, move back in at LITERALLY the SPEED OF LIGHT-"

Literally, Rick? Wow. I`d like to see that.
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Male 1,010
"Iran move back in" - what is it with this guy is he completely retarded? When was Iran in Iraq? It`s like saying "we cannot let Sweden go back and take over North Korea" Saddam was at war with Iran, they hated each other, Saddam was completely paranoid about the Ayatollah in Iran and his movement. When Saddam got into power, he executed half of his political opponents, saying they were "secretly supporting the Iranian Islamic Revolution". Talk about blood shed in Iraq mr Perry, that blood shed was a gift to Iran for removing Saddam - not in any way "removing Iran". My god this dude is almost as dumb as Bush.
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Male 37,888

You cannot free a slave, he can only free himself.
Meaning we can`t buy freedom for them. Taliban, Muslim Brotherhod, Al Quida...Some group or other will always come in until the Iraqi people themselves stand up and say `no`.

So let`s stay out of their business and let them get on with it.
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Male 10,845
@CrakrJak

Well gee you should`ve thought about that BEFORE you made the case for invasion.
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Male 2,384
obama`s second term secured
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Male 1,471
This man is running for president.. He was at one point the front runner.. Think long and hard about that fact, people..
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Male 17,512
Despite the `speed of light` exaggeration, Perry has a point here. Iraq could become West Iran, not unlike the way South Vietnam was overrun by the NVA in 1975.
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Male 701
they already lost their lives for nothing. More dead troops are not going to bring them back.
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Female 3,727
poo, I can`t play any videos; it`s just a blank black space...WTF!
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Male 2,143
Rick is the best thing to ever happen to the Democrats. He is a clear Beacon of just how stupid and out of touch the republican MORONS are. Thank god for Rick Perry.
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Male 1,540
Holy crap, the Iranians have technology that allows them to move at the speed of light. No wonder he wants to stop them!
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Male 541
If Iran has developed technology that can move at the speed of light then what hope is there for us?
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Male 2,516
at "literally" the speed of light... (face palm)
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Female 8,044
Link: Rick Perry Wants Troops Sent Back To Iraq [Rate Link] - He states Obama does not understand what`s going on in that region...does he understand?
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