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    eugenius Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Link: Pray To End Abortion: A Facebook Plea - And other requests...
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:21 am
    i prayed that my gf got an abortion. and my prayers were answered.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Blow out my birthday candle and not age.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:32 am
    Yup, you keep on praying for it. Ill continue to support education on how to prevent it.
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    Francakes Female 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:32 am
    You make fun of them when they passively do something...and you get angry at them when they actively do something pertaining to their political and social beliefs.

    catch-22
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 9:33 am
    "i prayed that my gf got an abortion. and my prayers were answered."

    This is a pretty f.ucking sick answer. Abortions that come from nothing more than irresponsibility is nothing more than murder.....
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 9:35 am
    "You make fun of them when they passively do something...and you get angry at them when they actively do something pertaining to their political and social beliefs. "

    Praying is not passivly doing a thing...

    Yelling and protesting in Gods name is not ACTIVELY doing anything.

    When religious type sttop praying to god and start doing things themselves, then you can say they do something.

    No catch 22 here.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Abortions that come from nothing more than irresponsibility is nothing more than murder.....

    So if a girl is raped and gets pregnant, then "murder" is justified?
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:39 am
    This is a pretty f.ucking sick answer. Abortions that come from nothing more than irresponsibility is nothing more than murder

    You can`t murder something that`s not a person.
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    coffeekoneko Female 18-29
    1008 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 9:42 am
    I love this image.

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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:44 am
    wish i was aborted.
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:48 am
    @Steelgrid, ignore the troll and it will die.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 10:04 am
    Yup, you keep on praying for it. Ill continue to support education on how to prevent it.


    Word.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 10:18 am
    "So if a girl is raped and gets pregnant, then "murder" is justified?"

    Not at all, oddly I think rape babies should be allowed to live. But I am a male and I cannot understand what a woman goes through carrying a baby, especially a baby born from malcontent.

    But if the child has but a spinal collumn for a head, or will be born into obvious pain, then yes.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    January 3, 2012 at 10:24 am
    I like Jay`s answers the best :-)
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 11:07 am
    We allow cops to kill and call it `upholding the law`, we allow soldiers to kill and call it `defending freedom`, we allow individuals to kill and call it `self defence`, and yet a woman gets raped, is forced to live it out every day for the next nine months, and should she decide to abort it we call it `murder`??

    No wonder I freaking hate christian ethics. So full of double standards.
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
    1239 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 11:15 am
    Yup, you keep on praying for it. Ill continue to support education on how to prevent it.

    Sadly, the same folks fighting abortion also fight teaching young people how to have safe sex.
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    RPossum Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 11:58 am
    I am so coming to your house and raming a fetus inside you, then telling you if you remove it you are a murderer.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 11:59 am
    But if the child has but a spinal collumn for a head, or will be born into obvious pain, then yes.

    Dangerous precedent, discarding babies that aren`t "normal". The way I see it, we kill animals that have more sentience than some blastocyst or embryo, so I have no problem with abortion. Yes, I know that killing animals isn`t technically murder, but to me that is just splitting hairs (no pun intended).

    Even the Bible can be interpreted as saying that the life of every creature is in its blood (Lev 17:14), which interpreted literally means that it`s not technically alive according to God until it`s infused with blood, which is between 2-3 weeks.
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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
    674 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    If it wasn`t such a waste of uteri, I would pop out babies and kill them on a regular basis.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    what the frig.. really midget rubbing is good luck?
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    Well said antagonizer.
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    beardtats Male 18-29
    255 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    JaundiceCake, i want you to kill my babies.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
    3774 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    interesting that people (mostly men, by my own personal observation) are SOOOOOO opposed to abortion, but how many of them are lining up to adopt these babies? or working on the behalf of proper placement of same infants?

    and how many of y`all out there would put YOUR name on that list?

    yeah, just like i thought.
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    mykunter Male 40-49
    2424 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 7:20 pm
    Abortion won`t go away if it`s illegal. It just becomes "illegal"...
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    Ah, this old argument. I`m only going to bother pointing out one thing.

    Calling abortion murder is nothing more than the fallacy known as an "appeal to emotion". Murder = bad, so calling abortions murder immediately brings to mind the image of it being bad.

    However, murder is a legal term. It is, specifically, the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Two points there are key.

    First, premeditated is what separates murder from the lesser charge of manslaughter. Manslaughter is often unintentional or done in the heat of the moment, with no forethought given to the act.

    Unlawful, however, is the key point when discussing abortion. Since abortion is legal, it cannot, by the very definition of the word, be murder.

    Not that I expect pointing this out to have any effect at all, since appeals to emotion are all the anti-choice crowd has on its side.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    @Yaezakura: You were fine until paragraph #5:
    In Nazi Germany gassing Jews was perfectly legal. Your `point` is moot.

    However, the definition of "what is human" is quite valid! I offer this:
    DNA seperates us all, correct? Even identical twins can have some DNA variance iirc.
    SO: When does a fetus have it`s own DNA, unique from the mother`s?
    Answer: 32 cell stage.

    THAT is why the Pro-Abortion (anti-life) side NEVER discusses science. Ever.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    5Cats, I`ll gladly talk science with you.

    Do you know what else has fully human DNA? Cancer cells. I don`t see anyone arguing that we shouldn`t be trying to kill those off. But genetically, they`re every bit as human as a fetus is.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 9:23 pm
    In my younger days, I was all for a woman`s right to choose. Then as I matured, I became more pro-life. Now that I`m old and cynical, I`ve come to realize that the only people having abortions are liberals, and if they want to kill off their kids so they can never grow up and vote, more power to them.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 10:34 pm
    Now that I`m old and cynical, I`ve come to realize that the only people having abortions are liberals
    Hah. Not even close to correct. Many abortion clinics serve the very people who were protesting at their doors the day before, and will protest there the day after.

    Pro-lifers are rather hypocritical in this regard. "MY abortion is different. I`m doing it because I genuinely have no choice. All those women I yell at at the doors are just sluts."
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    January 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    5Cats, an acorn has an identical set of DNA to an oak tree--are you telling me that an acorn and an oak tree are metaphysically identical?

    Of course not. No matter how much you try or want to, you can`t build a log cabin out of an acorn even though its DNA is the same. Nature made them different; it`s the same way a baby and a fetus are different. A fetus is not an individual, no matter how much you want it to be.

    To ascribe rights to a fetus that is not an individual and to say its rights supersedes the rights of an actual woman is a perversion of the entire concept of rights. It`s a blatant contradiction to say a parasite has rights that supersedes its host.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
    766 posts
    January 4, 2012 at 1:39 am
    too many people - 7 billion - suicide, murder, abortion . . . what does it matter? we breed like rabbits . . .
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    January 4, 2012 at 5:22 am
    @Yaezkura & M_Archer: The arguement is: it`s my body; but the fetus has different DNA than the mother after just a few cell divisions (for the first few it `borrows` DNA from the mother, eh?). So saying it has `the same DNA` is false, it is not identical, it`s different.
    It is inside the mother, it depends on the mother for it`s life, but it`s NOT the mother`s "body" it`s a seperate entity with unique DNA.
    Does that give it "rights"? idk, but the DNA idea is less arbitrary than the "live birth" idea, IMHO.

    Unless an acorn is a clone of the parent tree, it too has seperate DNA @M_Archer. You can`t make logs from acorns, and 2 year olds cannot drive cars, they take time to develope.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2012 at 6:08 am
    Unless an acorn is a clone of the parent tree

    You do know that oak trees can self-pollinate, right?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 4, 2012 at 6:41 am
    @5cats: Also, since when does DNA=life. I extract and handle DNA all the time at work, but it`s not "alive". DNA is a blueprint, you wouldn`t call it a building. But if you want to talk DNA, then the embryo inherits all of its mitochondrial DNA from the mother, so in essence then it belongs to her. No mitochondria=no ATP=death.
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    GRadde Male 18-29
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    January 4, 2012 at 7:01 am
    >5cats
    Those exact same arguments could be applied to cancer, but I think you`d want that "aborted."
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    January 4, 2012 at 9:56 am
    One must be fully aware before their prayers are answered in a timely fashion. There is no room for doubt, its very thought creates your reality.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
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    January 4, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    Personally, I don`t think merely having human DNA makes you human. I think it`s more about having a developed human brain and the ability to exist independently of another organism.

    The problem is that different sides have different definitions of when life/humanity begins. Some are religious (life begins at conception) and some are based on other criteria that they find essential to humanity (being more than a ball of cells, for example).

    The point is, there is no one right answer for all people. There is a fuzzy line between when it is developed enough to count as being "human" and when it isn`t.

    The problem comes when someone tries to impose a religious viewpoint on someone who doesn`t share that viewpoint. It`s like a Muslim trying to punish a non-Muslim for drawing Allah.

    The state is not run by religion and should not be, so religion should not be a reason for a law.
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    faaaaq Male 18-29
    687 posts
    January 4, 2012 at 4:52 pm
    "You do know that oak trees can self-pollinate, right?"

    not sure what you are replying to exactly other than the part you quoted, but, you do know that something self-pollinating or giving birth using only its own DNA in NO WAY makes the offspring genetically identical, right?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    January 4, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    Many abortion clinics serve the very people who were protesting at their doors the day before...
    Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    January 5, 2012 at 7:52 pm
    @Patchy @ @HiEv: I don`t say DNA=Human I DO say that the claim "MY body MY right" is false because the fetus has different DNA than the mother after a very early stage.
    OBVIOUSLY the fetus is human, has human DNA and will grow into a human given time & good fortune, eh?
    The tricky part, the part ALL abortionists avoid, is the unique DNA it has to make it a seperate human being than the mother.

    @GRadde: Cancer cells have different DNA then the rest of your body`s cells, iirc. While a fetus won`t (usually) kill the host, cancer often will.

    Thanks @OldIllie & faaaaq for the backup!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    January 6, 2012 at 7:11 am
    Cancer cells have different DNA then the rest of your body`s cells, iirc.

    Well, not really. Most types cancerous cells aren`t foreign growths, they`re just body cells that are malfunctioning and growth isn`t able to be stopped. There are many different mechanisms that cause this, but generally it is the same DNA, although there might be a SNP that is causing the problem.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
    621 posts
    January 6, 2012 at 8:23 pm
    5Cats: "The tricky part, the part ALL abortionists avoid, is the unique DNA it has to make it a seperate human being than the mother."

    Huh? They don`t avoid it, it`s simply irrelevant. It`s still the mother`s body that the zygote/ morula/ blastocyst/ gastrula/ .../ fetus is developing in, and she should have a right to decide if she wants to allow that or not. Different DNA doesn`t and shouldn`t mean the mother has no rights as to what happens in her own body. Also, a ball of cells does not equal a human being.

    Finally, please do not equate people who believe in abortion rights with abortionists, those are two different terms. Just because I believe in abortion rights for the mother (up to a certain stage in development), doesn`t make me an abortionist. Using inappropriate and biased terms is a cheap debate tactic.

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