Newt Gingrich To USA: Let`s Start A Moon Colony

Submitted by: Gerry1of1 5 years ago in

According to Newt Gingrich Moon will be 51st state.
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Male 379
CrakrJak strikes again...
*facepalm.

the fact this is even being talked about during a presidential campaign only speaks to how out of touch people like the newt are with society... and to how easily influenced weak minds like CrakrJak`s are.

unbelievable.
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Male 5,811

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Male 5,811
[quote]Also, we`ll be transporting foreign astronauts to the moon, as well, thus no treaty will be broken.[/quote]


Well if it`s to become the "51st state" then yes, treaty will be broken.

[quote]Water is recycled on the international space station, water (ice) does exist on the moon, we`ve already built and tested a moon rover, we`ve built sections of the space station that, with modifications, could be used on the moon, and we have many astronauts in training and are looking for more.[/quote]


How exactly would they get to this ice? Is there an abundance of it on the surface? Yes, they recycle water, but you can only recycle so much, it`s not infinite. Using a moon rover is hardly proof that a moon base could be sustained. I`m not saying it`s technologically impossible, I`m saying that its ridiculous cost is the biggest impetus, especially for a country with a shaky economy and no current space program.
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Male 10,855
@AuburnJunky

My point is it`s a huge investment both short and long term and we don`t know what the return on investment will be.
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Male 10,339
"hundred-trillion dollar investment"

More like tens of billions. Moving on.
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Male 2,384
sigh...
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Male 10,855
@CrakrJak

Well if that plan is another government project than yes of course I would complain. As for doom and gloom are you suggesting that it`s unhealthy for people to be worried about how we citizens are paying out the nose fund welfare and defense? We`re in a huge hole right now and now Newt is asking America to make what is possibly a hundred-trillion dollar investment without knowing what the return on investment would be if any. That is why it is politically unfeasible. So I CrakrJak as a fiscal conservative emplore Newt and you to wait until the private sector has a business case for a moon base before we Americans are forced to make yet another likely unsustainable investment.
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Male 17,512
Cajun: It is politically feasible. America needs a vision, a goal, something to look forward to, something to inspire our kids again.

Right now the public is being fed platefuls of doom and gloom, that`s not healthy for any society. You liberals whine about getting more middle-class jobs, but when a republican devises a plan to create them you sneer and say it can`t be done.
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Male 10,855
@CrakrJak

Be that as it may no one in the private sector has a solid business case yet. So, as OldOllie pointed out:

[quote]but rather that it`s POLITICALLY unfeasible[/quote]
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Male 38,483

The space program is a brilliant idea and research always pays off....eventually. But Newts attempt to stir "American Pride" like Kennedy did is a failed attempt. Remember when Bush tried this with "Manned Mission to Mars" and a "Moon Base".

And the whole statehood thing is just stupid.
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Male 17,512
patchgrabber: He`s not delusional and we already have the technology. Water is recycled on the international space station, water (ice) does exist on the moon, we`ve already built and tested a moon rover, we`ve built sections of the space station that, with modifications, could be used on the moon, and we have many astronauts in training and are looking for more.

Also, we`ll be transporting foreign astronauts to the moon, as well, thus no treaty will be broken.
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Male 6,227
Let`s be honest: Newt just wants to build a permanent Moon base because he weighs too much on Earth and it would be easier for him than dieting.
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Male 694
colonizing the moon = jump start the future
claiming it as ours = break the Outer Space Treaty which our nation has signed and ratified and start a world war
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Male 5,811
Anyone who thinks a base can be set up on the moon in the next 8 years is a moron. Moon Treaty, difficulties transporting water, costs of many shuttle flights to bring construction materials, not to mention the lack of people qualified to travel, build and then live on the moon. He`s delusional, plain and simple.
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Male 2,513
Just a shameless ploy for election
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Male 15,832
I like Newt, but it seems he never has an unspoken thought. That being said, Tyson`s argument is not that it`s technically unfeasible, but rather that it`s POLITICALLY unfeasible.
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Male 1,737
Cool as it might be to live on the moon, it`s really not a practical thing to do. Waste of resources.
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Male 14,834
Private capital will not pursue such a venture without understanding the risks or without a huge financial incentive. The closest American private enterprise will come to a moon landing is a Hollywood fantasy like Salvage 1.

Newt is a space cadet. He doesn`t understand the free market, he doesn`t understand international law, he doesn`t have his priorities right, he just wants to sound presidential and declare some lofty goals.

He is quite simply unfit for high office.
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Male 26
m-o-o-n, that spells moron.
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Male 38,483

Puerto Rico is to smart to become a state. People in territories don`t pay income taxes and the like. So what if they can`t vote federally, they`re too small to influence an election anyway.

I`m wondering which state will try to seceed first. Arizona maybe?
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Male 1,364
if u need a 51st state, just take puerto rico. they are a us-territory already.
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Male 1,360
Auburnjunk, would the very, very elevated cost of this risky and useless adventure be worth the few jobs it would create? I never thought of you to be sensed, but come on! don`t be a turd.
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Male 2,513
Oh I notice idiots, I just try not to surround myself with them. So I can, one day, be the dwarf standing on the shoulders of giants.

Hello I-A-B giants!!!
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Male 583
I`m generalising based on observation, as it is your natural habitat, it`s only logical that you wouldn`t notice the idiocy around you. Unless of course you are in fact one of these idiots yourself, which I will not assume because of the presence of basic grammar and vocabulary which so many of your countrymen fail to grasp. Get over it, your country has this reputation for a reason. No smoke without fire
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Male 2,513
@kinky, you sir are a buffoon.
Stop generalizing an entire country of people, it only makes you appear more mentally inept than you might already be.
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Male 2,513
Newt Gringrich`s moon base isn`t possible with his "plan". Martin Bashir and Neil Degrasse Tyson show the flaw of his idea. Oh, Neil Degrasse Tyson
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Male 583
go invade another oil rich country lol then tell your citizens "it`s terrorists.....get emmm!!!" then perhaps you can kill another 2,996 of your own people and blame it on a Saudi
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Male 583
a nation of fat idiotic morons (speaking of course of the majority here, I do know a lot of Americans who negate the stereotype)
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Male 583
stupid american
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Male 10,339
Are you drating serious Kinky? Are you one of those moon landing conspiracy drat asses that are still breathing the smart people`s air?

America is, and will always be drating badassed. Well, I take that back.

4 more years of that drating retard will drat us right nice.
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Male 10,339
"this guy is talking about going to the moon when people are trying to figure out how to get to a job..."

Several hundred high tech jobs right there for the taking if this happens.

Short sighted liberals.

Let`s give away stuff for free, rather than giving people the chance to earn.

If you give a man a fish, he can eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he can eat for a lifetime.
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Male 583
"America is still the only country to set foot on the moon." ex-squeeze me??? bacon powder??? yeah and Oswald shot Kennedy lol
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Male 583
stupid americans
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Male 2,345
this guy is talking about going to the moon when people are trying to figure out how to get to a job...
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Male 10,440
An american moon base huh? Think about what it would do to the arabs...

I like it! They would be demoralized into submission.

It`s too bad the USA isn`t capable of it.

One reason it could exist is the tritium on the moon. Once fusion power gets off the ground there will be a real use for it.
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Male 280
Imagine Ryan If you had a position of power 500 years ago all the indigenous American civilizations could have been saved. Our ancestors would still be rotting in Europe. But think, we could be asking the Mayans directly what’s happening on dec 21st
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Male 4,793
Wow that would be cause for a war. Claiming that land as our own is basically like claiming a hunk of land from EVERY country on earth. Our aircraft carrier is pretty cool, but it won`t stop every country from saying `alright america, we gonna fudge you up.`
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Male 10,339
All of those things you mentioned could be grown and recycled on a permanent land base.

Also, imagine the long term research, of we had a land based space station.
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Male 2,344
Why would we even want a lunar base? No water, no vegetation, supplies constantly being shipped... Seems like more hassle than what it`s worth.
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Male 10,339
@TheShgn: There`s a treaty between all space fairing countries (except China) that says outer space is international and cannot be claimed. Kinda like the ocean, or Antarctica to be more precise. We can have bases, and the bases would be ours, but the land directly around those bases would not be ours.
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Male 10,339
Obama directly cut the Shuttle program. Guess how much it saved?

Find 1 million pennies. Take one of those pennies. Cut it into 16ths. Take one of the 16 pieces of that penny that was in the pile of 1 million pennies.

That, in a nutshell, is how much cutting the Shuttle program saved the US.
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Male 626
@Edgarska19
I`m actually from the north, I just live in the south. And usually I`m not do close-minded. But if you think about it, when Europeans got to America, they claimed it, and if they could defend it, it was theirs, so why wouldn`t that apply to the moon?
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Male 14,834
Betcha the Chinese do it first and then they petition the NPC to become a state of China. Along with all the mineral rights and strategic advantages.
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Male 38,483

People living on the moon would be Lunartics?
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Male 2,593
Little does he know, I`m planning on claiming the moon before them.
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Male 1,045
@TheShgn2
Southern US, why am I not surprised?
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Male 83
Newt isn`t thinking about the geopolitical ramifications if the USA tries to establish a moon colony and then add it as a US state. Fortunately, the US doesn`t have that kind of willpower or power left to accomplish such an ambition project, let alone the fiscal power.
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Male 3,445
"No flag, no moon!"
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Male 626
"It`s the moon! It does t belong to any country!"
Well, not to be that guy, but, finders keepers. If you Europeans want to send some people up there to claim it, go ahead, but America is still the only country to set foot on the moon. Anyways, it would belong to whoever could establish the first working base and defend it, regardless of what treaties we`ve signed. If you want the moon, you`ll have to pry it from our cold, dead, chubby hands. It will probably be owned by a mining company or something like that anyways.
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Male 1,252
Sadly it is a reality.... As history has taught us..all it takes is some schmuck with a flag to say "yup..drat all you guys..this land now belongs to the british royal family!.... LAND GRAAAAAAAB!" lol
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Male 663
It`s the moon! It does t belong to any country!
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Male 636
We probably come in contact with 100 + items every day that were invented or made better thanks to NASA and the Space Race.

Including

Memory Foam
Scratch-resistant Lenses
Ear Thermometers
Shoe Insoles
Long-distance Telecommunications
Adjustable Smoke Detectors
Cordless Tools
Water Filters

To name a very few.

I totally agree with Newt on this.
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Male 645
All I hear from republicans is cut the budget, even Bush cut NASA, but he wants to go to the moon again?
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Male 620
>democrat in office
Waaaaa, we don`t have a space program!

>Republican candidate wants us in space again
Waaaa, that guy is bat poo crazy for suggesting we go to space again.


I for one wouldn`t mind being one of your moon overlords.
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Male 4,395
"A politician at his most basic self: Promise you the moon."

CaptKangaroo for the win.
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Male 10,855
Gee I hope that`s not yet another government program.
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Male 546

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Male 2,422
Why stop there? We should make Mars into a territory like Guam.
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Male 335
And people think ron paul has some crazy ideas...(not that I disagree).
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Male 1,399
We could do it, and cheaply, too. Prizes.

To paraphrase Jerry Pournelle;
"The sum of $XX billion to be paid for construction and maintenance of a Lunar base in which no fewer than 31 Americans have continuously resided for a period of not less than four years and one day.

The payments made shall be exempt from all US taxes."

OTOH, if you wait for government to actually execute this, it. will. never. happen.
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Male 2,762
A politician at his most basic self: Promise you the moon.
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Male 1,429
The moon could never be a US state for 2 reasons: 1) What Zymotical posted and 2) They would have to reopen the Space travel program at NASA
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Male 1,341
I`m gonna move to the moon before the moon base gets built. That way, I will be considered a native moon.. Moonian?... When they get there I will claim they stole land from my people (me) and build a casino and make good money..... It`s brilliant and don`t you dare say otherwise!
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Male 3,445
I actually agree that we ought to have a moon base, but it should be internationally shared and should serve as a launch point for other missions.

I don`t want Newt to be the one to implement it though.

And auburnjunky, you guys constantly complain about Obama being a big spender. Sorry, you don`t get the right to be annoyed when he cuts anything.
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Female 2,228



Yes, make the Moon a state, because D.C and Puerto Rico? Seriously, f$%*% those guys.
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Male 38,483

I`m all for a huge space program, but crossing your arms and blinking a wish will not make a tourist market or provide industrial use.

And he obviously doesn`t understand international treaty. No one nation can claim the moon as territory...not even the US. "when they have 13,000 colonists they can apply for statehood" What a maroon.
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Male 154
tobyvictory: that was auburn junky who said obama killed the space program. and i think space and all that is [email protected] we just have some stuff to sort out before we can go do cool poo on the moon.
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Female 2,525
Crazypants.
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Male 707
well.. the moon is certainly not the property of the united states.. it would have to be a new world with new countries.. besides the moon would be a pooty place to live
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Male 14,334
LOL!!! How about getting our transportation infastructer second to none or hey a massive energy program or education up to par there`s nothing for us on the friggen moon!
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Male 406
If he`s trying to sound like Kennedy, it was an utter fail. Par for the course.

And jak22, Obama did NOT kill the space program. Jees, you idiots will say anything to get elected.
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Female 2,674
Lmfao okay, Newt.
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Male 4,395
The only thing Newt would be good for as president is filling up a 365 day calendar with stupid quotes.
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Male 25,416
WOuldnt it be funny to moon people on the moon
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Male 10,339
This is awesome! We need to ramp up the space program again, since Obama killed it.
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Male 154
wow. what a joke. its sad that american politics even allows these kind of idiots to run for president.
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Male 38,483
Link: Newt Gingrich To USA: Let`s Start A Moon Colony [Rate Link] - According to Newt Gingrich Moon will be 51st state.
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