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82 Responses to Everytime I Want I Honk At A Car… [Pic]

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    f0rk0 Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 9:46 am
    Link: Everytime I Want I Honk At A Car... - ...I think about psycho pro-gun nuts like this guy and just keep on driving.
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    January 27, 2012 at 9:50 am
    That guy`s plan could really... backfire! Then he would`ve shot himself in the foot! HUR DURR
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 9:51 am
    That`s why you shouldn`t have road rage.
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 9:54 am
    Not every single person with a gun is a "psycho pro-gun nut." Profiling is wrong.

    I`m guessing this is probably a cop.
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    JuggaloReign Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 9:55 am
    Dont worry f0rk0, next time we see you getting raped, beaten, attacked robbed or murdered, us "psycho pro-gun nuts" wont offend you by helping. BTW, I used to be a pizza delivery driver in a town were the new trend is ordering a pizza and beating the driver with a baseball bat until unconscious and taking their money, and I used a holster similar to this. But I guess im just paranoid....
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Why I will never move to the states.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:06 am
    Well... there are several other huge reasons, but this is also a big one.
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    Black_August Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:07 am
    @diylobotomy I would agree. Either that or this guy lives in a really bad neighborhood.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:09 am
    town were the new trend is ordering a pizza and beating the driver with a baseball bat until unconscious and taking their money
    I rest my case.

    next time we see you getting raped, beaten, attacked robbed or murdered
    Is that likely to happen? If it is, again, I rest my case.

    If it`s not, then why would you need the gun-nut?
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:11 am
    If a cop pulled you over and saw this, you just might get them nervous enough to order you out of the car and do other stupid, cop-asserting-his-authority gestures.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:15 am
    I think that`s a pretty surefire way to get yourself immediately arrested when you get pulled over.
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    abrxax Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Gun control means taking guns away from law abiding citizens. A criminal doesn`t care about laws. Plus, the majority of CCW holder know better then to pull it out when not necessary. Why don`t you take a real handgun defense class. The several I have taken drill it into you that once you carry a gun you never pull it unless its a last resort. Their is nothing funny about killing anyone.
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    Magickrat Male 40-49
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:21 am
    Hey Juggalo - You look like a punk-bitch. I`d bet a paycheck you`d get that gun shoved up your rectum sideways...
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:34 am
    "Gun control means taking guns away from law abiding citizens. A criminal doesn`t care about laws. Plus, the majority of CCW holder know better then to pull it out when not necessary. Why don`t you take a real handgun defense class. The several I have taken drill it into you that once you carry a gun you never pull it unless its a last resort. Their is nothing funny about killing anyone."

    Restricting weapons results in only a handful of idiots having guns, not restricting weapons causes half a nation of idiots to have guns.
    This is without considering the consequences of both parties in a conflict having lethal weapons.

    You do not have the moral capacity to judge another individual to live or die when you live in such a chaotic society and do not have any moral perspective outside it.
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    beardtats Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:43 am
    while i agree that this is potential trouble with police....real honest law-abiding citizens have an easy way to prevent police from becoming confrontational and emotional and violent.

    upon being pulled over, roll down window, hold BOTH hands visibly outside the vehicle, and loudly declare "Officer, please don`t be alarmed, but i need to make you aware that i have a legal, registered firearm in the vehicle with me".

    no beating, tasing, shooting, etc necessary.
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    maggierose78 Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:46 am
    "I think that`s a pretty surefire way to get yourself immediately arrested when you get pulled over."

    Actually, I must disagree with you about that. If the gun is in clear sight of the officer, and the person being pulled over announces that they have a gun, the officer would not arrest said individual. If the gun is in clear sight, the individual announced it, and the individual cooperates with the law nothing will happen (or should happen) to that individual.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:49 am
    msieg007 "I think that`s a pretty surefire way to get yourself immediately arrested when you get pulled over."

    Unless he has a concealed carry permit....
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Also, every law abiding gun carrier knows that if an officer pulls you over the very first thing you say to him, even if you have to cut him off, is that you have a firearm in the vehicle. They probably will ask to see your hands and have you step out of the vehicle to see your weapons permit or whatever your state requires but that is all for his/her safety.
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    HalfSandwich Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:53 am
    I think the people who want strict gun controls are just ignorant in the ways of handling a gun and gun safety. It`s a tool like any other tool, but often people are afraid of what they don`t know.

    Sure thing goes boom, make loud noise, but unless you yourself have some intent on breaking the law and putting people in danger, the only thing you have to worry about from people who carry legally is to remember to thank them if they save your life one day.

    I would recommend taking a gun safety class and learning about what you are so afraid of. You may learn something about the law and about yourself.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:53 am
    Yea... What Maggierose said.
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    JrmyCrss Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:55 am
    There are so many people here who claim to know the laws and they why/when/how people would be arrested for certain acts. I think it would be interesting to know how many people who express that opinion have any experience as a law enforcement officer.

    I can tell you that in the State of Tennessee, If you possess a concealed carry permit you will not go to jail for this. Its funny how many people are flipping out about this.
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    FemBot Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 10:57 am
    That is so cool, but man would you get it if a cop pulled you over. One time, while driving with my uncle we got pulled over, when the cop asked if there were any weapons in the car my uncle answered honestly that there was a handgun under the seat and all hell broke loose. He had his hand on his gun the entire time screaming questions at us while ordering us to slowly get out of the car with our hands up. Luckily we both had a license to carry a concealed firearm (I didn`t have mine on me at the time) but holy crap, if that officer had the authorization to strip search us, he would have. No ticket was issued, it turned out to be a random traffic stop. I hate people.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:00 am
    <----- pro gun nut 0 murders

    Restricting weapons results in only a handful of idiots having guns

    Criminals don`t abide to laws restrictions do nothing for the problem and give the Government absolute power notice they won`t put restrictions on themselves. Judging by your I know what`s best for everything attitude I`d say you`re from the UK notice for the royal wedding they had no issue with breaking out the sub machine guns looks like someone dosen`t trust you.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:07 am
    kairobert

    So you are an expert on who should be allowed self-protection are you? You can guarantee that criminals don`t get armed, which the police can`t? You have the right to tell me what I can`t own, what I can`t do, even though I have no malicious intent?

    Rather arrogant of you.
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Pro gun =/= psychotic murderer
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:19 am
    @HalfSandwich

    "It`s a tool like any other tool"

    Correct, it`s a tool. Nobody is debating that.

    In this context, the tool is a self-defence tool. Again, nobody is debating that.

    What is being debated is whether such a tool is necessary and, if it is necessary, WHY that necessity exists.

    To put it bluntly: what is wrong with your society if arming yourself with a lethal weapon is a sensible precaution when going for a drive to buy groceries?

    To me, a plain old UK resident, that seems more like an action necessary in war-torn Somalia than it does in the leading developed nation.

    If this kind of thing truly is necessary, then it`s a sad and shameful reflection on your society.

    In before anyone comments on violent crime in the UK: yes, knife crime here is also a sad and shameful reflection on our society.
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    Zymotical Male 18-29
    198 posts
    January 27, 2012 at 11:20 am
    "Everytime I Want I Honk At A Car"? Surely you must meant:
    "Every Time I Want to Honk At a Car".

    As for the Psycho pro-gun nut comment... may others be less prejudicial towards yourself than you are to this "psycho".

    P.S. The ellipsis (…) in you`re subtitle is extraneous.

    P.P.S. I do not own a gun, let alone many guns to necessitate an entire rack.
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:42 am
    <---Pro Gun. Former Soldier. Former Law Enforcement. Security Contractor. Holder of Concealed Carry Permits in New York and Minnesota.

    The device pictured is not for your everyday gun owner/hunter/enthusiast/gun nut. I remember seeing things like this in contractor vehicles in Iraq. There are certain places where this could be useful, but your average gun owning American isn`t strapping themselves up like this every time they go out.

    Because of my line of work, I have a legitimate excuse to leave my house armed to the teeth whenever I choose.

    But I don`t.

    I find using the phrase "psycho gun nuts" in context with this pic is dishonest. Is the photo from some guy`s car in East Texas, or is it in a security contractor`s vehicle somewhere where there`s actually killing happening on a regular basis?
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    ticketfan Male 40-49
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Because the first thing I think of when someone honks is, "I`m going to grab my gun and shoot at whoever honked."
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    captkava Male 40-49
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:48 am
    way to troll iab! that got the juices flowing.

    well said musuko, i`m a scot, knife crime seems a cultural thing to us unfortunately...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:51 am
    what is wrong with your society if arming yourself with a lethal weapon is a sensible precaution when going for a drive to buy groceries?

    Would the same logic apply to someone who owns a sword or Bow and arrows considering those too were created for the same purpose.
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    HalfSandwich Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 11:58 am
    @Musuko42:

    Here in the US we have a 3000km lightly protected border to our south and about 8000km of coastline on the lower 48. It is absolutely impossible from stopping guns and all other sorts of illegal things from entering the country. While most Americans are decent people, and the majority of the country is very nice, I don`t think there is one neighborhood that can realistically say drugs and violence have not affected it. That includes all classes and ethnicities.

    While I own guns but don`t carry, I will always defend anyone who does so legally. Again, unless you were military, I would assume you have had little or no weapon experience. Me, I`ve been around guns since I was 6. I have no fear of them because I respect them and understand them. I know how to handle them and I know when a person with a gun is responsible or someone to avoid. It`s just another tool.
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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Nice mount. Nothing wrong here, at least in my state a where vehicle is considered an extension of your home. The owner has the same legal responsibility to obey the law as he/she does at home.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    what is wrong with your society if arming yourself with a lethal weapon is a sensible precaution when going for a drive to buy groceries?


    Would the same logic apply to someone who owns a sword or Bow and arrows considering those too were created for the same purpose.

    ----
    No, because we don`t use them against each other on a semi regular basis here... Don`t believe me, check the stats for people killed in US by firearms vs people killed in Europe by bows and arrows and swords...
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    leesah Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    I live in IL, the only state where you can`t conceal carry and the only state where going 24 hours without a single murder reported makes national headlines. Gun control. Thumbs up.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    @McGovern1981

    "Would the same logic apply to someone who owns a sword or Bow and arrows considering those too were created for the same purpose."

    If they owned them for the purpose of self-defence, yes.

    Can you describe to me another reason, other than self-defence, why this gun would be fitted to this car in this way?

    @HalfSandwich

    I don`t contest everything you describe, and agree that there is a distinct need for self-defence in many areas of your country. I`m sure the same applies to areas in my country.

    My point is that the existence of this need is a bad thing that would be better off remedied.

    You`re correct that I have no first-hand experience with guns. But I also have no first-hand experience with pneumatic drills. I neither need nor fear guns in exactly the same way I neither need nor fear the drills.

    And I would really rather not need a gun at all, then to need and have one.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    January 27, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    While I fully support a person`s right to have a gun I just don`t understand why anyone would want to. But then again I live in a really safe town.
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    swoop408 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    That`s pretty cool actually. Where I live, that would be useful.
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    fancythat Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Wow - that`s a sweet cassette deck. Did that come standard or did you have to upgrade to that?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    He has a pistol between his legs... zing!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    I live in IL, the only state where you can`t conceal carry and the only state where going 24 hours without a single murder reported makes national headlines. Gun control. Thumbs up.

    Wouldn`t that be showing that law has accomplished nothing? Criminals don`t obey laws.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Yeah McGovern - I think she was being sarcastic but to be fair, IL isn`t the only state by far.
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm
    Yea because it`s the legal gun owners who go through background checks and fill out tons of paperwork that everyone needs to worry about, rather than the thug who buys it off the street or gets it from a coke deal.
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    Ru1n Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    I actually have one of these in my vehicle--made by Texas Custom Holsters, ironically enough.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    thats funny, i just install a louder horn.

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    mcssls Female 70 & Over
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    January 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    and the problem is what?
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    I jumped into the passenger seat of the wrong car once while in a hurry - glad it wasn`t this one...
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    Justmebaby Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 4:07 pm
    Hopefully he gets some good use out of it.
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    Mister_C Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    Once again, I`m glad I live in England!
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    Somedood Male 30-39
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    January 27, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    Aw don`t be scared of the gun, Europeans.
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    eovogt Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    Still wonder why people feel the need to carry these around D:
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    Quik2TheStab Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    Guns are cool, but so are black people, and you can`t own them anymore.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    January 27, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    @Quik2TheStab
    You sir, win the internet.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 7:48 pm
    I am so glad I have the right to carry a firearm, just in case I find myself in a situation where I am forced to choose between a murderous thug or my family.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 8:00 pm
    Why do you even need a gun? The car itself is a very dangerous weapon. That`s why people get so damn upset. It`s like this: "You cut me off and almost killed me by making me run off the road! I`LL KILL YOU!" We`re so stupidly defensive we assume everyone who sucks at driving is trying to kill us.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    Kegomatix, the murderous thug will have a gun himself because guns are far too easy to get in this country. If guns weren`t so damn available you wouldn`t have as many murderous things you need to defend yourself from.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    January 27, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    January 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
    I`m moving to Vermont, where it`s all good.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    January 28, 2012 at 4:57 am
    @ Mister C I`m glad you do too.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    January 28, 2012 at 5:09 am
    Guns are about context. Here in the UK guns are relatively rare and I would prefer them to be even more rare so I favour strict gun control. If I moved to the US or, say, South Africa, one of my first acts would be to find a reputable gun dealer and ask for advice and training.

    I would prefer to live unarmed in an unarmed society, but in an armed society I would want to be armed and competent. And I`d make very sure my children were trained in gun safety.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    January 28, 2012 at 5:10 am
    Rawrg, and that`s how it is supposed to be A**hole. And it should be difficult for outlaws to get guns.
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    mykunter Male 40-49
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    January 28, 2012 at 5:10 am
    Why are we to assume the owner of this vehicle is psycho and/or nuts?
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    January 28, 2012 at 6:39 am
    @sarahofborg

    Well I guess since they are so easy to obtain for criminals I would much rather have a weapon against a thug who does have a gun than not. Your argument means nothing, there are already too many guns in country. Criminals will always get them, so why make it more difficult for good guys to get them?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 28, 2012 at 8:27 am
    DrProfessor-"If a cop pulled you over and saw this"

    That is why when the officer walks up, you make no sudden moves, and you hand him your registration, license and concealed carry permit.

    I`ve been pulled over several times. Having a gun in the truck has never been an issue.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 28, 2012 at 8:29 am
    msieg007-"pretty surefire way to get yourself immediately arrested"

    Why? It`s not illegal. You inform the officer that you have a gun in the vehicle (after showing your permit). At best the officer will say, "Thank you for informing me." Worst I ever had happen was the officer said, "Can you step out of the vehicle so I can secure the weapon for both of our`s safety?" I said yes, told him where it was and informed him "It has a full clip and one in the pipe". He retrieved it, removed the clip and cleared the one in the pipe and layed them all on the front seat.

    After he checked to make sure everything was Kosher with my load, he re-inserted the clip, jacked the slide to put one in the pipe, removed the clip to add the round he had removed from the pipe earlier, re-inserted the clip, then handed me the gun to replace in my console.

    He complimented me on my choice of a Ruger.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 28, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Musuko42-"what is wrong with your society if arming yourself with a lethal weapon is a sensible precaution."

    The same thing that`s wrong with every society that ever existed...it contains humans.

    Mister_C-"Once again, I`m glad I live in England!"

    BOO!

    SarahofBorg-"Why do you even need a gun? The car itself is a very dangerous weapon."

    Because most carjackings do not take place while you`re doing 70 on the interstate.

    SarahofBorg-"If guns weren`t so damn available you wouldn`t have as many murderous things you need to defend yourself from."

    So, exactly how long have you been out of touch with reality? So really thing that a 98lb woman vs. a 350lb violent rapist is the fair fight?

    Which way would you rather face a rapist?


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    button_guy Male 18-29
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    January 28, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    Don`t ever visit Alaska then. Everybody has one.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    January 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    agree with MeGrendel. in arkansas, showing insurance papers, license, car registration, and concealed carry permit is easy and relatively no-fuss. that is, unless you happen to act like a smart-ass, in which case you deserve what you get.
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    Xerasia Female 18-29
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    January 28, 2012 at 9:26 pm
    why is everyone commenting on getting pulled over? bah! any good cop should be expecting a possible weapon whenever they pull someone over. at least that one was in plain view.
  71. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 3:13 am
    @MeGrendel

    "Which way would you rather face a rapist?"

    Unless the woman already has her gun out and ready, she`s not going to get one up on the rapist hiding in the bushes with his gun already out and trained on her the moment he jumps out.

    Well, unless she has superhuman speed and is able to reach into her bag, pull out the gun and point it at the rapist before he pulls his trigger.

    If criminals are able to get hold of a percentage of the guns available, reducing the number of guns available might help.

    That`s why criminals in America commonly carry guns, and criminals in Britain commonly don`t. They carry knives. But you can run from a knife. You can`t run from a gun.
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    January 29, 2012 at 5:29 am
    Musuko42, that is the stupidest statement I have seen yet. You would much rather be stabbed repeatedly, and totally defenseless, but you go ahead and die the way you want to.
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    Tekinette Male 30-39
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    January 29, 2012 at 7:45 am
    People that think guns are helping obviously never went to Europe. Guns only make people more paranoid and living in fear which is a pretty sad way of life really. Might aswell wear a bulletproof vest all day long and live in a bunker if that`s your vision of a safe & sane society...
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 8:48 am
    @botfly

    "You would much rather be stabbed repeatedly, and totally defenseless, but you go ahead and die the way you want to."

    I would much rather face an attacker with a knife than an attacker with a gun.

    Knife: can outrun, can outfight.
    Gun: the moment it is pointed at me I have no options and cannot move, even if I have a gun myself.

    Would you like to explain to me how a woman in a dark park with a gun carried in her purse, with the safety on, is going to be able to resist a rapist who jumps out with his gun ready, loaded, and aimed right at her? Exactly what benefit to her is the gun in this scenario?

    All you end up with is one raped woman and one rapist now armed with TWO guns.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    January 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    I keep a gun because I refuse to explicitly trust my Goddamned Government, do you?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 6:41 am
    Musuko42-"she`s not going to get one up on the rapist hiding in the bushes"

    But she MAY have it out and ready for the rapist she notices following her down the hall to her apartment door. Or the rapist in the bushes may not have a gun.

    Why do you want to take away her options based on the one scenario you can come up with where it might not work while there are many more scenarios where it will?

    In your mind, a woman who has been strangled to death is morally superior to a woman standing over her dead attacker because of your fear that the bad guy `might` obtain another weapon.

    That just demonstrates your bias and ignorance.

    For your education:
    Tulsa Woman Shoots Two Would-Be Rapists
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 6:48 am
    @Tekinette

    That statement shows the stupidity of gun control nazis. There are countries in Europe that allow people to posses firearms and they`re doing just fine. Try to think beyond what your kings and queens tell you whats best for you.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2012 at 12:50 am
    @McGovern1981

    "Try to think beyond what your kings and queens tell you whats best for you."

    *facepalm*
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2012 at 12:57 am
    @MeGrendel

    I find it hard to imagine a scenario where the victim`s chances are better off with both participants armed with weapons capable of wounding and killing at range, than when neither are thus armed.

    If you have a situation where it is easy for the victim to arm themselves thusly, the attacker is also able to easily arm themselves in the same way.

    "But she MAY have it out and ready for the rapist she notices following her down the hall to her apartment door."

    It was her alertness, not her gun, that saved the would-be victim in this scenario. If the gun were not available to her, she would have had other actions open to her, thanks to that alertness.

    In the link you provided, it doesn`t mention the attackers having guns. Do you think she would still be the victor in that event if they had a gun to her head? What stopped the criminals being armed? Gun ownership restrictions maybe? Do we know?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 31, 2012 at 8:40 am
    Musuko42-"I find it hard to imagine a scenario where the victim`s chances are better off with both participants armed with weapons "

    So, because `YOU` can`t see an upside IN THAT PARTICULAR scenario that you go to great pains to limit the circumstances to, she would NEVER find a gun handy?

    Again, you demonstrate your ignorance (which is now bordering on stupidity).

    What about a scenario where the woman is outnumbered, yet is able to defend herself. You know, LIKE THE LINK I PROVIDED? That is a perfect example AGAINST your position, but you still seem to think her raped and dead is a better outcome than letting her protect herself.

    Here`s another: A woman who was raped in her Cape Girardeau, Mo., home last weekend shot and fatally wounded the atta
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    January 31, 2012 at 8:48 am
    Musuko42-"It was her alertness, not her gun, that saved the would-be victim in this scenario."

    Sorry, but now you`ve gone straight from `ignorant` to `idiot`.

    An `alert` woman trapped in a corner with gun has more options than an `alert` woman without.

    Musuko42-"I find it hard to imagine a scenario where"

    You have a hard time imagining any scenario that does not support your bias and ignronce.

    There are scenarios where a gun will not be of any help.

    There are scenariors where a gun will be.

    A person comfortable with a gun has more options in the latter.

    Just as I`m in hundreds of scenarios every day where I do not need a fire extinguisher. In fact, there is only once this year where I was happy to have one. But I have it available at all times. And the lady in the Civic with a fuel leak was very glad I did.
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    calicass83 Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2012 at 10:13 am
    Making anti-gun laws will NOT deter the criminal who has his mind set on committing criminal acts - he will ALWAYS find a way to commit them. Now, take away the ability for people to defend themselves and you`ve got major problems.
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