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36 Responses to Christine O`Donnell Likes Mitt Romney Because…

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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Link: Christine O`Donnell Likes Mitt Romney Because... - `He`s been consistent since he changed his mind.`
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    RPossum Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    She is consistently an idiot. I like that in my idiots.
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    January 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    I like my idiots to have a background in being a witch....
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    I`ve been following these campaigns for a good 20 years, but I have to admit that
    Barbara Walter`s response to Cain`s hypothetical State Department nod was one of the best moments I have seen...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    This is why Americans are stupid.

    Do you really want a candidate that is so stiff-necked he never changes his opinion? Of course not.

    But if any politician changes his mind he`s acused of "Flip Flopping" on the issues.

    Can win for losing.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    January 3, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    "Do you really want a candidate that is so stiff-necked he never changes his opinion? Of course not. "

    Yes and no. Some issues are very important to people when voting for someone. They want someone who shares their views and very often feel betrayed when the person is elected and changes their mind.

    I hope that elected officials (as well as the rest of us) can learn, evolve, and change their mind if need be, but in politics it can be tough.

    There is something to be said for consistency, but I prefer not to have `blind` consistency.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    *shudder*
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    "Do you really want a candidate that is so stiff-necked he never changes his opinion? Of course not."

    You don`t want one that supports whatever he thinks most other people support just to get votes either.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 3, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    "You don`t want one that supports whatever he thinks most other people support just to get votes either. " Well, let`s face it, they don`t represent us. They just say what they need to to get elected.

    But in a perfect world, or at least the US of 40 years ago, I would prefer a candidate that formed an opinion on the most current information, but not so stuborn that he couldn`t take a new viewpoint if new information warrented it.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    I`d like to conduct an I-A-B poll at this time. 1 for the first option, 2 for the second. How many of you vote for candidates because they stand firm to their convictions, regardless of whether or not they collide with yours on occasion, or because (in all honesty) they flip-flop in synchronicity with the changing tides of public (i.e., constituent) opinion? I have a hard time deciding what makes for a better leader under a democratic republic.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    @Gerry1of1: I`ve been thinking quite a bit about the "Flip-Flop" bullet that so many candidates seem to carry in their arsenal and are so quick to load and fire at the very hint of an opponent changing his/her mind. As sad at is sounds, many the impression of changing one`s mind on an issue does produce some doubt in the minds of many since "stalwart views" plays a key function in most Americans` equation of "leadership." However (and Romney must know this) if those flip-flops are towards the direction a certain voter pool wants, they are very much willing to let it go. Conservative voters in November will vote for him a) despite his having supported Universal Healthcare due to his citing some strange revelation about his change in what amounts to a core philosophical leaning, and b) because of intense vitriole for Obama. Romney is smart. He`s playing the game very well.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    January 3, 2012 at 7:06 pm
    @suicism: (2) I want a politician that listens to the people. However, Romney and the rest of the Republicans, flip-floppers or not, are only listening to the 1% and those that think that the 1% aren`t shipping jobs overseas.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    9pm central update on the Caucus. Santorum 25%. Paul 23%. Romney 19%.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    Thanks for the feedback jtrebowski.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    evanbartlett, I`d take it that you`re leaning toward 1?
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    January 3, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    I wanna face drate her.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Suicism: good question. I guess you have two end-members. End-member 1 is so pig-headed and firm in his/her convictions that they CAN push their own personal crusade too far, even in the face of changing public opinion (which as you point out, is the very constituents they represent). End-member 2 on the other hand can be a wishy-washy flip-flopper who will do anything to garner votes, and at the end of the day is not the candidate that you voted for (based on their political convictions) two months into their term because they`re constantly pandering to public opinion. So like most things in life, I believe that the true answer lies somewhere between the two end-members.

    And to answer the question, I`d lean towards 1.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    Holy balls. At time of posting, there are fewer than 150 votes between Santorum and Romney, with 93% counted. 5 minutes ago it was less than 50 between them. Ron Paul 3rd, the others settling well into a lower tier.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:06 pm
    Thanks for pointing out the two extremes of the scenario because I think that best illustrates the dichotomy, davymid. Of course we must not judge anybody, especially a leader, who comes to an alternative conclusion about something based on careful thought and possibly powerful epiphany, but I guess I just illustrated the perfect balance there didn`t I - not wishy-washy but steadfast in their commitment for the right reasons. I too would lean toward a Type 1 with these qualities, though that still leaves us with the rhetorical question of what it means to represent one`s constituency!

    I guess it`s up to us to decide that.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    @ evanbartlett - I agree
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 10:50 pm
    LOL Santorum wins Iowa, but Paul claims victory. Does it even matter anymore?

    He (Paul) came in 3rd by the way.

    drat Mitt Romney. That is all.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    I like Gingrich, but here`s the deal. Ron Paul will not win New Hampshire. Romney will win that by default. Gingrich will win South Carolina. Santorum will be either second or third in both of those. Then, the real test will be Florida. That is a southern state, so guess what. Gingrich. Once again, Santorum will be in the top 3. He will be the nominee. Paul is too crazy for the normal folks, and Romney is too liberal. Santorum will be the nominee, and if Paul runs third party, he is doing this country a disservice.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    "I would prefer a candidate that formed an opinion on the most current information, but not so stuborn that he couldn`t take a new viewpoint if new information warrented it"

    I don`t disagree with you there Gerry. But with Romney I just get the sense that there`s no underlying core of opinions or a coherent worldview that is his. Every other candidate has one. Paul, Santorum, Huntsman, Obama. But Romney doesn`t seem to have very much of a distinct ideological foundation beyond what fits into his Republican abacus of victory. And without that core how can we predict what he will really do in the White House when he no longer has to craft himself to us? He`s an arch-pragmatist who takes up and abandons positions following a carefully calculated formulation. Paul is in many ways his complete opposite. He`s perhaps too ideological and won`t hesitate voice extremely unpopular opinions if they follow logically from his worldview. Romney wouldn`t do something so inexpedient.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2012 at 11:39 pm
    No matter who wins the caucauses, there`ll be 8 years of Obama. Mark my words.

    People aren`t as stupid as Republicans think they are. And, unfortunately, each one of them has a vote.

    Let`s see what happens.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    January 4, 2012 at 3:34 am
    strange species the republicans, in a normal world they would extinct.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2012 at 4:18 am
    What Pierre? Go back and read that again.

    4 more years of Obama would = screwed. I`m not sure Liberal would want that either. After 8 years of Obama, everyone would vote Republican. Every single elected official would be republican in 2016.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2012 at 6:21 am
    4 more years of Obama would = screwed. I`m not sure Liberal would want that either. After 8 years of Obama, everyone would vote Republican. Every single elected official would be republican in 2016.


    Funny, I said the same thing about George Bush right before his second term. Here`s the problem: none of the Republican candidates are really all that noteworthy. It usually takes a lot to oust the incumbent; people usually prefer the devil they know to the one they don`t.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2012 at 6:39 am
    This is true Patch.

    I`m beginning to think they all just suck.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2012 at 7:19 am
    I`m beginning to think they all just suck.

    Preach, brotha, preach.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 4, 2012 at 7:51 am

    It it too late to vote for Hillary?
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2012 at 9:18 am
    This nomination process is going extremely well. For Barack Obama, that is.

    The only candidate who carries a minimum level of reliability is Ron Paul - but he has a political point of entry that I don`t think can ever reach adequate consensus in USA. If Paul is serious about cutting away aid to Israel, he will never stand a chance facing Congress. Which is sad, because truth is that these are the types of political decisions that has to be made in this time of crisis. A country in a serious recession cannot uphold expensive international colony- like institutions like Israel, and at the same time pay down debts effectively.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    January 4, 2012 at 9:26 am
    @Student_Law

    Then there`s a pesky question of what exactly people want out of Ron Paul. There are plenty of people who agree with him 90%+ of the time but that group could be fragmented into priorities or things they DON`T want him to do. I for one don`t want him taking away birth right citizenship which is what he advocates.
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    Porkchop275 Male 18-29
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    January 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    Why are these people allowed to run for public office?
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    Grumpdock Male 13-17
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    January 4, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Sounds stupid, but the editor cut out the rest of her sentence.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2012 at 3:51 am
    CNN is just putting us on.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2013 at 3:27 pm
    Porkchop275

    "Why are these people allowed to run for public office?"

    A lot of Americans don`t want to vote for someone they think is "elite" or significantly smarter than them. They want to vote for someone they can relate to.

    That is how we ended up with Bush twice.

    It is also the reason Mitt Romney had to constantly wear jeans and his famous checkered shirt and Obama had to go bowling.

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