A 2002 Prediction Speech By Ron Paul

Submitted by: madest 5 years ago in

Ron Paul is the Nostradamus of politics apparently.
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Male 303
The department of education was created in 1979. Before that the states had control of education.

Wouldn`t be that big of a deal to do it again.

Social Security is a ponzy scheme. It spends more than it takes in. It needs to be fixed, or better yet, done away with. I am in my 20s and have no illusions that I will be getting back what I "give" in social security now. The math doesn`t work. My dollars are supporting senior citizens now, I will not have the same luxury when I am old.

A social program is not nobel when it is forced.
A government cannot be compassionate, only people can.

Inevitably, government employees and politicians benefit from the money they took from the people moreso than the people themselves.
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Male 5,811
[quote]When you have a limb infected with a flesh eating fungus, you don`t put antibacterial cream on it; you chop the thing off with a sharp a blade as possible.[/quote]

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Male 35
Fifth, I believe in a system where everyone can choose how to support the less fortunate. For example, I would choose to support the poor by giving the taxes taken from me to my small church which supports and supplies a small food bank across the parking lot. My church also recently built a hospital on an island off of Uganda on Lake Victoria and supports a orphanage of 250 kids on that same island. I believe dollar for dollar my church is doing more good than my government ever dreamed of. I also regularly donate to an orphan in Indonesia. I know I could be doing more in my own country to help the poor, but I have seen the conditions of the poor in Africa and some Asian countries, and our "poor" are rich compared to most of those I have seen over seas. Sixth, while a large majority of our poor got that way through some type of horrible circumstance, we do, as a country, enable many to remain poor.
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Male 35
@Madest: Firstly, I don`t watch Fox news, really, I don`t watch much news at all, it`s all biased one way or another, I try to pick up headlines here and there, check out AP every now and then, but other than that, it`s a waste of time. Second, you got me on the facts, assuming of course your sources are correct, I don`t really have to time to research it all my-self. Third, I was going mostly with logic. A system where a previous generation relying on the taxes of the next generation is not, in and of itself, self-supporting. You would need some type of sliding scale as you mentioned to make it work. Even with that, the tax rates could get so out of control as to make the system fail through protest of high taxes. Fourth, I don`t really know if I know Christ, I think I do, and I try to get closer to who he is every day. Some days I feel that I fail, others I feel that I succeed. The point is, I do the best that I can. Fifth....
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Male 25,416
meh...
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Male 689
i really like Ron Paul but there are a few things i just cant get behind, the introduction of the fair tax and getting rid of the department of education. on top of that 90% of stuff he wants to do would never make it past either house. i think he fails to realize the president doesn`t have dictator like power. but i will agree that he is the only candidate that wants actual change but so did Obama and look what that got him. the only way to start the process is to get corporate influence out of Washington. we need a separation of corporation and government.
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Male 3,364
Ok, folks. As a few on this thread have mentioned, Ron Paul tends to be rather vague in this video. i think he`s vague overall. He puts forth ideas that appeal to people that want real change right now, but in many cases, fails to address how he`d get past the hurdles that face all politicians (congressional opposition, lobbyists, etc) and how said changes will affect people So, I`m asking RP supporters to answer two questions with specifics:
1)RP says if a company destroys my land or well water with fracking, all I have to do is sue the company. How am I supposed to compete against well-connected powerful corporate attorneys?
2) If we remove our troops from S. Korea, what happens if N.Korea decides to lob a few missiles onto Seoul?
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Male 7,378
Democrats social issues = Equality, Healthcare, Social Security. Republican social issues = Hate immigrants and gays, no abortion, repeal healthcare and end social security so we can afford war with Iran... Your choice.
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Male 1,399
The Democrats won`t fix it, and the Republican establishment won`t fix it.

People will ignore, deride and deny the truth of Dr. Paul`s predictions, even when they are taking place right in front of their eyes.

Ron Paul is really the only choice to try to reverse the incredible damage done by the statists and the warhawks.
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Male 3,364
@scuzoid: I wish you were right, because Republicans really were`nt big on the social issues until the evangelical right hijacked the party. (I think it was right before Reagan got elected) Unfortunately, the Tea Party (not the original Ron Paul version, but the current one that now has considerable influence in the house and senate) is again making those issues a priority, and has succeeded in doing so. Not only is that one reason that this election years crop of candidates look like such clowns, its also why Ron Paul is considered unelectable. Also consider that for all of ideas that Paul has, he would find that once in the WH, implementing them will be a lot more difficult than he thinks. (as Obama found out.) Not only will he have the senate and congress to deal with, he will also have advisors to tangle with, and of course special interest groups and lobbyists vying for attention.
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Male 1,268
@jtre

You`re right. Then again, I`m a straight white blue collar male. Social policy has never been something I`ve voted on, and I suspect it`ll all be far from the forefront during this election.
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Male 646
Wow, he seems so young... :-)

Most of his predictions are like most predictions: too vague or obvious.
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Male 3,364
@Scuzoid: "White Obama"? Um..no. Check out Romney`s positions on abortion and gay rights. Also consider that Romney is being courted and funded by social conservatives who, thanks to the Citizens United decision, he is now beholden to, and we have a possible SCOTUS nomination coming up. No way should we risk the possibilty of having another con on the supreme court. That alone should be the reason to re-elect Obama.
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Male 1,268
Is that a critic madest? That doesn`t even seem like you`re actually annoyed by this difference they currently share.
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Male 7,378
Scuzoid, Obamas not trying to control what people do with their bodies. Mitt Romney says that states should decide who gets a condom. It`s Romney so I`m sure they probably had a free condom program in Massachusetts.
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Male 1,268
I don`t get it. White Obama has no catch phrase for you to cling to Queen? Same policy bro, so why the disgust?
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Female 2,228



Now hear this, this dude is the candidate for 2012, this dude and his wooden mannerisms, eerily perfect family and fluency in the revered ancient tongue of Pandering, there is no alternative. (Not that Paul would`ve been a good one, mind you).
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Male 7,378
Stand4Christ, If you knew anything about history, not just the talking points FoxNews programs into you. You`d know that populations booms and busts have happened throughout history and social security has adjusted with the times by taxing contributors on a sliding scale. Of the 157 million workers with earnings in Social Security in 2010, 6% had earnings that equaled or exceeded the maximum amount subject to taxes, compared with 3% when the program began and a peak of 36% in 1965. About 84% of earnings in covered employment were taxable in 2010, compared with 92% in 1937.
If you really stood for Christ you would support programs that help the less fortunate. I`m of the impression that if Christ knew you, he`d think you were a dick.
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Male 186
Broad - vague.
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Male 2,440
[quote]@Pooptart19
Music is "Time" by Hans Zimmer[/quote]
I know. That was the joke. It`s from "Inception." :)
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Male 38
I have been the army for 2 1/2 years my vote is for Ron Paul.
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Male 621
Wow. Amazingly, the one prediction he made that I noticed was obviously wrong, that we`d pull out of Afghanistan, was made by *overestimating* the ability and/or intelligence of the US. Sadly, we`re not even _that_ good.

It always amazes me that people with generally accurate insights like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are marginalized and derided by the US media.
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Male 219
anyone who doesn`t think social security/welfare is good thinks that social security/welfare is only for black people

stop being racist
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Male 11
@Pooptart19
Music is "Time" by Hans Zimmer
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Male 35
Dear Madest,
Disregarding the discussion on the Nanny State, I would like to address the subject of your directive to self-educate.
I believe you need to simply use common sense to see the error in your opinion. Social Security and Medicare are NOT self sustaining. The current working generation pays for the previous working generation`s program. How exactly is that self sustaining? In order for that to continue to work, there would always have to be more money being put into the programs than there is going out, and we are hitting the threshold where that will no longer exist. Every new deal program put into place all those years ago is fundamentally flawed, and will eventually fail.
Your logic is flawed sir. I would suggest educating yourself.
Ron Paul for President. Who wouldn`t want a modern day Nostradamus running the country? I say if both left and right extremes don`t like the guy, then he must be doing something right.
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Male 219
"ok so now we know he`s a psychic. i dare ya to predict the next 10 years Ron Paul...my guess...YOU WON`T BE IN OFFICE!"

man you really must be psychic, terms are only 4 years and you can only be president for 2

lol women
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Male 3,364
"I am a mental health therapist"

Yeah? I`ll bet either you or the company you work for has benefitted from some sort of government grant or loan. Maybe you prescribe medication....how confident would your patients be if you prescribed medication that hasn`t been approved by the FDA? I know they`re not perfect, but if you think pharma companies don`t consider profit to be a higher priority over safety, you`re out of your mind. Getting sued is just the price of doing business in the corporate world.
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Male 3,364
"here is a hint, it wasn`t thousand f gov programs and offices telling us how to live, where to live, what to do, taking our freedom away and dictating everything we say, think and do in life."

I.....have.....to.....go. Must..make...din-ner.
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Male 7,378
[quote]I would rather live freer and more on my own than as an adult to rely on a NANNY STATE government that thinks it needs to control me for my own good.[/quote] -----------
That term nanny state is offensive. I may not be the biggest fan of our budget crisis but the people on social security and medicare didn`t cause our financial situation. Social Security and medicare have been around for 50+ years and are self sustaining programs. You drink the kool-aide of right wing talkers without checking to see if they`re truthful. Educate yourself.
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Male 3,364
Jamie: Not everyone is as fortunate as we are. Many, through no fault of their own (medical bills, etc) need a safety net, and it`s because of that net, have bounced back from a fate that could`ve been much worse. you guys scream and howl about all the "freedoms" you`ve lost, but fail to provide which ones. I suppose one could bring up the "Patriot" Act,(which i`m against) but one can only imagine the backlash had we not done anything, and then got attacked again.
Also, lets consider his ideas of doing away with agencies like the EPA and the FDA. Do you really think those agencies haven`t protected us in any way?
Lastly, you may be right that S. Korea can defend itself, but I feel that our prescence there is a deterrent to the NK`s trying to attack them.
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Male 2,345
wow...you people have been so acustom to sucking the tit of the federal gov for so long you forgot how this country started and what made it great.

here is a hint, it wasn`t thousand f gov programs and offices telling us how to live, where to live, what to do, taking our freedom away and dictating everything we say, think and do in life.

that is what we have now.

I would rather live freer and more on my own than as an adult to rely on a NANNY STATE government that thinks it needs to control me for my own good.

I am a mental health therapist, generally considered to be a compassaionate profession but one thing my years of being in this field have taught me is how much learned helplessness we are getting from our nanny state gov.

we will be greece soon...research that if you fail to understand what that means.
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Male 2,422
"I betcha the North Koreans would LOVE to see this guy in the WH....no more American troops protecting S. Korea!"

The South Koreans can protect themselves. They`ve grown prosperous hiding under our security umbrella for the last 60 years. Now it`s time for them to provide for their own security. That`s not the same thing as saying we should abandon them or no longer be allies.
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Male 10,855
[quote]I betcha the North Koreans would LOVE to see this guy in the WH....no more American troops protecting S. Korea![/quote]

The good news is they REALLY don`t need our protection.
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Male 10,855
He`s not a god-prophet just a very smart guy.
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Male 2,345
Ron Paul...for those of us that understand what PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY MEANS. I am smart to decide how to live my life, research companies before I buy from them and to figure out how much security I need without giving up my freedom to do it.

you think his ideas are too simple???? really? this world is only as complicated as our misguided attempts at controlling have made it...we can undo that and make our country richer and stronger.

we spend trillions a year on our military and for what????? we are not in a world war, we have no real viable threats, not a single country or even multiple countries out there could stand a chance in a direct war with us and couldn`t even if our bases were shut down world wide.

we need those trillions we spend on war back in the tax payers pocket, funding better schools and building a better country NOW.

we cannot build a better world by holding it at gun point like we are now...

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Male 7,611
Nothing like Nostradamus, there is no mystery or "encoding" in what he said.
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Male 4
hmmm 8-)
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Male 3,364
I betcha the North Koreans would LOVE to see this guy in the WH....no more American troops protecting S. Korea!
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Male 3,364
@trig45: Pass total campaign finance reform, have all elections publicly funded, and get "Citizens United" overturned, and you get a whole lot less corruption. His ideas are appealing, but far too simplistic and child-like in for the complicated world we live in. He also has a "you`re on your own, folks!" attitude when it come to protecting citizens from corporate abuses that just downright scares the hell out of me. He says that if some corporation pollutes my property, I can just sue them. Yeah, right....like I can fight an army of expensive well-connected corporate attourneys. Puh-leeze!
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Male 73
I feel that one thing that makes people so afraid of Ron Paul is their inherent fear of change. For that is exactly what he represents; a shift in the paradigm of power. And that terrifies so many of us. What will we do without the succor and aid of our federal government?
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Female 546
ok so now we know he`s a psychic. i dare ya to predict the next 10 years Ron Paul...my guess...YOU WON`T BE IN OFFICE!
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Male 10,440
Sounds bleak.
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Male 73
@jtrebowski the only way to fix the corruption in our government is to tear it down. When you have a limb infected with a flesh eating fungus, you don`t put antibacterial cream on it; you chop the thing off with a sharp a blade as possible.
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Male 2,440
Coulda sworn I`ve heard this music in a dream.
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Male 3,364
Most of those predictions are hardly surprising, and we`re also made by political pundits. (mostly on the left) However, it is surprising to hear a politician make them. I`d like him if he didn`t have such a "let`s kick the house of cards and see how where they fall" attitude about changing the way we do things in this country.
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Male 286
mind is blown.
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Male 145
yay ron raul, i hope ya`ll from south carolina are getting out the vote.
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Male 2,034
I wonder what he thinks about December 21?
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Male 7,378
Link: A 2002 Prediction Speech By Ron Paul [Rate Link] - Ron Paul is the Nostradamus of politics apparently.
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