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70 Responses to 10 Reasons Gay Marriage Is Wrong

  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    January 29, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Link: 10 Reasons Gay Marriage Is Wrong - The 10 most frequently used reasons in argument and debate against gay marriage.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
    4348 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 11:48 am
    to the point.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32813 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 11:49 am
    Meh, at least it`s quick.
    When the majority want it, it will happen. Trying to ram it down others` throats isn`t going to help the cause, eh?
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Meh post. While I agree that gays should have the right to get married, the counter-arguments presented here weren`t particularly funny or helpful--and did just about nothing in the way of refuting anything.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 11:57 am
    Here`s the way I see it: government sponsorship of marriage is wrong. To me, that`s the real issue. As a government, we should not EVER discriminate. If we`re going to give tax breaks and other benefits to one couple or one orientation, why not other couples of other orientations? To not do so is discrimination, plain and simple. As such, government should either acknowledge gay unions/marriages, or, un-acknowledge hetero ones. I don`t give a rip what the church defines marriage as. I don`t go to church. Church people can marry their toaster for all I care. But, I don`t want our laws discriminating against any group of people based on race, religion, gender, nationality or sexual orientation. To allow that is not only hypocrisy, it`s a stain on our society.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 11:58 am
    Heh heh...I can`t wait to see the responses from the angry conservatives.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 11:58 am
    Gay marriage is wrong because according to the Bible a marriage is simply a property exchange between a father and his son-in-law. Now how the hell are you supposed to know who owns who in a same-sex partnership!? It`s madness.
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    SaintsFan Male 30-39
    256 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    I-A-B has officially gone from a fun, entertaining website to a politically, agenda laden one. So sad.....
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    I was raised in a gay hating home. My father would constantly make comments about how disgusting and unnatural it is. That way of thinking found its way into my head, and stuck for a while. Then I got a little older, and gained some common sense. Now I don`t care, it literally means nothing to me that gays want to marry. Yay for being me!
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    smaus Male 30-39
    715 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    I wish they would just let them do it so I don`t have to hear about it anymore, why do people feel they need a contract to show love anyhow...
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    Thdot Male 30-39
    658 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    Oh who cares. Let the queermos marry already.
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    @xiquiripat

    Bahahahahahah.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    January 29, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Seriously, the person who made this couldn`t find the credits for the music so the put N/A? What a tard.
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    RdDan Male 30-39
    759 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    When i was 14 i had a heated debate with a maths teacher who insisted that gay marriage was wrong.
    He said that marriage was a christian religious ceremony and that god would not allow gays to marry.

    I replied that marriage had been around a lot longer than the poxy little religion he followed and there is evidence that the original religion of our dear little Albion was a lot more progressive towards same sex couples.

    I got detention.

    He got flat tyres.
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
    459 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    feh...
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    i wish we just made all marriage illegal...pay your own taxes and if you wanna have a dude in a robe say you`re this or that and wear a piece of metal, well thats your own damn business.
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    tatripp Male 18-29
    1196 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    I`m pretty sure that every IMB staffer is gay because these are the only videos i see on this site.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    This is stupid... i thought people who argue such a controversial topic would be more educated or argue with a better point. Hanging around tall people, seriously tall isnt a choice, its genetic. Gay is not genetic its a choice, if it was genetic you wouldnt be born.
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    jteachey1 Male 18-29
    122 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Fatninja. Dumbass.
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    lol @ tatripp
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Older than the internet.
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    AL3X_hehe Male 18-29
    27 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    If people don`t like gay marriage, blame the straight people, those are the ones that keep having all the gay children
  23. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    This is stupid... i thought people who argue such a controversial topic would be more educated or argue with a better point. Hanging around tall people, seriously tall isnt a choice, its genetic. Gay is not genetic its a choice, if it was genetic you wouldnt be born.

    Are you trolling or are you genuinely not aware that the last sentence of your paragraph contradicts the first sentence?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 3:48 pm
    there is evidence that the original religion of our dear little Albion was a lot more progressive towards same sex couples.

    I wasn`t aware that there was any evidence of the original religion of this part of the world and I am aware that there is abundant evidence that back then it wasn`t one place and therefore probably didn`t have one religion.

    I am interest in what evidence you`re claiming concerning the religion(s) on this island ~12,000 years ago. That`s assuming you`re taking the repopulation after the last ice age as the original inhabitants. "original" could go back more than half a million years.
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    gothmo Female 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 3:59 pm
    @jteachey1

    agreed >>; someone missed the point.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    January 29, 2012 at 4:11 pm
    im not against gay marriage, but i am against people pushing their views onto others.
  27. Profile photo of CynicalGamer
    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
    450 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    I don`t really give a crap who marries who but this video sucked.
    Arguing against whether or not being gay is natural against the use of air conditioners? WTF? Being gay is not natural. The one true reason for us being what we are is procreation. If we were all gay we would die out. That goes against nature (again I don`t care who marries who I am just pointing out the obvious).
    Then they compare being tall to conversion. You can`t make someone tall but you can convince someone to become (or try) being gay.
    The arguments used in this video are just so stupid that it doesn`t work at being serious, fails at being funny, and is just wasting my time.
    And now that I watched the whole thing I think I might be gay....OH CRAP! AAAAAaaargh!
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    bluevayero Male 18-29
    226 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    i guess its just a good trolling effort. too stupid to be true :P
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    blackcatseye Female 30-39
    685 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    WTF? I don`t even have to watch this, #1 is already wrong, and there is also evidence that the CURRENT religion of "Albion" IS a lot more progressive to same sex marriage, or just maybe being a dratING GROWN-UP country! FFS America! If a guy has a physical aversion to poontang and wants to stick his rooster up some other guy`s poo hole, IT`S GENETIC! GROW UP!
  30. Profile photo of wake_n_bake
    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
    663 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 5:49 pm
    @blackcatseye, you really need to watch the video if you`re going to bother to comment, it`s actually in support of gay marriage. Dummy.
  31. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    Being gay is not natural. The one true reason for us being what we are is procreation. If we were all gay we would die out. That goes against nature (again I don`t care who marries who I am just pointing out the obvious).

    Your argument relies on an obviously false assumption, namely that some people being gay is the same as all people being gay.

    If all people were gay, that might cause humanity to die out. Probably not even then, because people would realise that they`d have to do something to ensure humanity continued. But it`s a completely irrelevant idea anyway. 100% homosexuality isn`t the issue. It`s not the same thing as a small minority being homosexual.

    If you class only things directly related to reproduction as natural, then almost everything about humanity is unnatural. Thought is unnatural. Language is unnatural. Etc, etc.

    The entire "natural" argument is dumb anyway, but the way you`re doing it is very dum
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    CynicalGamer

    so you are saying that someone could convince you to be or try being gay????

    no you say...well you must be the only person exempt from your logic then otherwise you would be bound by it as well.

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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    January 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    Angilion
    Male, 40-49, Europe
    7982 Posts

    PURE WIN!
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 9:44 pm
    "The one true reason for us being what we are is procreation. If we were all gay we would die out. That goes against nature (again I don`t care who marries who I am just pointing out the obvious). "

    Something doesn`t have to apply to every single person for it to be natural. For example, I`m sure you`d say it`s natural for me to be female, I was born this way. But you`re not female. And if everyone in the world was born female, we`d die out. That statement is more true for females than it is for gay people. Because gay people aren`t infertile, they can and do have kids. If there were so many gay people that people were afraid of our species dying out, you can bet there`d be some kind of movement where male gay couples and female gay couples would choose to have sex with each other for the sake of continuing the species. But overall, it`s irrelevant, since something doesn`t have to apply to everyone for it to be natural.
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    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
    1110 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm
    Religion = bias political motivations.
  36. Profile photo of CynicalGamer
    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
    450 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 10:58 pm
    @Angilion

    You are incorrect. Whether or not I am talking about all or some of a population the fact remains that being gay can not result in procreation. Thus it could be determined that it is unnatural.
    You are layering your own ignorance or misunderstanding onto my statements and then calling me dumb (Argumentum ad Hominem) so there is no reason to continue a logical discussion with you. Thanks for your time.
  37. Profile photo of CynicalGamer
    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
    450 posts
    January 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    @LillianDulci

    I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the meaning of what is natural (including me). Natural can me of nature such as trees or the environment. It can be a state of being i.e. it is natural for humans to flock together into communities. It is also an apsect of the self i.e. it is a natural drive of all creatures to procreate and carry on the species. Because it can be determined so many different ways there is a lot of confusion.
    You are comparing my use of our desire to carry on our race which is a fluctuating variable considering who you ask versus you being a female which is a static state of being that can not be changed. Apples to oranges.
    @jamie76 I was joking at the end of my post. I thought that would be apparent.

    Guys I am all for a good discussion on this as it is a very important topic but we have to be adult about it.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    January 29, 2012 at 11:08 pm
    When i was 14 i had a heated debate with a maths teacher who insisted that gay marriage was wrong.

    He said that marriage was a christian religious ceremony and that god would not allow gays to marry.

    I replied that marriage had been around a lot longer than the poxy little religion he followed and there is evidence that the original religion of our dear little Albion was a lot more progressive towards same sex couples.

    I got detention.

    He got flat tyres.
    Epic.

    I`m pretty sure that every IMB staffer is gay because these are the only videos i see on this site
    I don`t think any current IMB staffer (sic: it`s IAB) is gay, as far as I know. We`re what you would call "progressive". As in, making making progress, going forward etc. Never quite understood why that was a problem for some people.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    January 29, 2012 at 11:10 pm
    "Trying to ram it down others` throats isn`t going to help the cause, eh?"

    I don`t get the whole "ramming it down our throats complaint", usually exclaimed by straight homophobic white men. I guess because gay people don`t hide anymore it seems that way to theseignorant people. But guess what. Change only happens when people are confronted with injustice. Do you really think oppressed people are going to get rights standing around quietly hoping it will happen? Obviously, you are a white man who has never experienced any kind of discrimination.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    January 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm
    To those of you saying being gay is "unnatural" because everyone is supposed to procreate. Ever think that having a certain percentage of people be gay is a sort of natural population control? How long would our resources last if every single person on earth pumped out kids as fast as they could (like the Duggers)? If it`s not natural, why are there gay animals? It`s all so stupid.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    January 30, 2012 at 12:05 am
    "im not against gay marriage, but i am against people pushing their views onto others."

    Well then you have a lot of thinking to do about why you are still a Christian.
  42. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 30, 2012 at 1:21 am
    You are incorrect. Whether or not I am talking about all or some of a population the fact remains that being gay can not result in procreation.

    That is true but irrelevant. I was replying to this line of argument that you made:

    If we were all gay we would die out. That goes against nature (again I don`t care who marries who I am just pointing out the obvious).

    So I am correct and you need to read your own posts.
  43. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 30, 2012 at 1:28 am
    lauriloo:

    You are factually wrong and it seems very likely that you are merely reflecting your own prejudices.

    If you really think there`s no middle ground between hiding/"standing around quietly hoping it will happen" and ramming it down people`s throats, you`re mad.

    The main question is what do you really want - rights or fights?

    To use your own "logic", you are obviously a hyper-aggressive loutish woman spoiling for a fight who has no idea what discrimination is because she`s never experienced any.

    Does that work for you? Or do you think it`s an unfair summary that denies any possibility of anything other than opposite extremes? You know, like you`re doing.
  44. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 30, 2012 at 1:34 am
    Guys I am all for a good discussion on this as it is a very important topic but we have to be adult about it.

    Then drop your ludicrous and irrelevant "natural" argument, which you don`t even pretend to apply consistently. That`s not part of a good discussion. It`s just a false appeal to authority, no different to people saying that homosexuality is a sin forbidden by their god. They use their god as their authority, you use nature...and you`re all just attaching superhuman authority to your own opinions.

    Or stop using the computer you`re using to post here, because that`s unnatural.
  45. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    January 30, 2012 at 1:40 am
    You are layering your own ignorance or misunderstanding onto my statements and then calling me dumb (Argumentum ad Hominem) so there is no reason to continue a logical discussion with you. Thanks for your time.

    I didn`t say you were dumb. I said the line of argument you`re using is dumb and the way you`re using it is very dumb. Which it is - you`re using an irrelevant argument in an inconsistent way. Which is probably why you haven`t even tried to support it - you know it isn`t supportable.

    I`d also like to know why you`re using language, since according to your own argument the only true reason for anyone`s existence is procreation and everything else is unnatural. You don`t need language to procreate. You certainly don`t need a computer. So why are you using your unnatural computer to connect to an unnatural network to write unnatural language?
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 5:45 am
    I could defend the natural part with evolution or Christianity. However, who ever feels differently would disagree, regardless of how right I may or may not be. So there is no point in saying anything about it, because unless it`s a positive statement, I`ll just get chewed out for it. So much for everyone being entitled to their own opinion.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 5:52 am
    OK, this I will say. There is no homosexuality in the animal world. A dog will hump anything including your leg, doesn`t make it a legsexual. If you provide that dog a female, it will hump it. Animals do not make sexual choices like we do, they don`t wake up one day and choose to be homosexual.

    Were not animals, we do make choices, please stop comparing us together.

    I once saw a male dog humping a male dog, than a female came up and started humping the second male making a train. It was funny, but I can tell you 100% they did not know what they were doing.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 6:57 am
    You are layering your own ignorance or misunderstanding onto my statements and then calling me dumb (Argumentum ad Hominem) so there is no reason to continue a logical discussion with you.

    Well this demonstrates a clear ignorance of what ad hominem actually is. Just because someone calls you dumb doesn`t mean it`s ad hominem. Angillion used rational arguments to argue his point, then called you dumb. If it were ad hominem, he would have to have used "you are dumb" AS HIS ARGUMENT. Learn you some knowledge because you ARE dumb (and that`s not ad hominem either).
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 7:33 am
    Hmmm... no mention of the act of inserting one`s penis inside another man`s rectum. Interesting how the pro-gay crowd never seems to want to talk about what being gay actually entails. Just sayin`...
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 8:10 am
    EgalM says; "There is no homosexuality in the animal world."

    I`m sorry mate but that isn`t quite true. There are a vast array of documented cases of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom. In rat, deer, dolphin, whale, beetle, and a vast array of other mammal, bird, insect and even reptile populations, homosexuality is very present.
    While more on the bisexual side, do some reading on the sexual behavior of Bonobo Chimpanzees.

    Being gay isn`t a choice. Only the most masochistic person would choose to be the subject of such hate, disgust, and rampant discrimination that many gay people encounter.
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    Intaresting Male 18-29
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    January 30, 2012 at 8:22 am
    Hey, buttsex is great! You should probably try it before you condemn it!
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    January 30, 2012 at 9:39 am
    What exactly would you like to discuss w/ us avatar?



    Is there anything in particular that you`d like to tell us about yourself? We`re all ears...
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    January 30, 2012 at 9:48 am
    These are innane arguements full of logical fallacies and misrepresentations.
  54. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 10:43 am
    Well this demonstrates a clear ignorance of what ad hominem actually is. Just because someone calls you dumb doesn`t mean it`s ad hominem. Angillion used rational arguments to argue his point, then called you dumb. If it were ad hominem, he would have to have used "you are dumb" AS HIS ARGUMENT. Learn you some knowledge because you ARE dumb (and that`s not ad hominem either).

    I agree with your point about what is and what isn`t ad hominem, but I`ll also add that CynicalGamer`s claim was false - I did not call them dumb. I called the argument they were making dumb, which is a very different thing (and which, obviously, can`t possibly be ad hominem).
  55. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 10:52 am
    EgalM says; "There is no homosexuality in the animal world."

    I`m sorry mate but that isn`t quite true. There are a vast array of documented cases of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom.

    Right...but EqalM didn`t say that there is no homosexual behaviour in the animal world. You`re talking about different things.

    The modern human concept labelled "homosexuality" is absent in other animals, but that`s inevitable because it`s defined in human terms and humans are significantly different to other animals. We have a different type of mind. Much of what we do doesn`t happen with other animals.

    EqalM went on to point out another explanation for homosexual behaviour in other animals - opportunity. Dogs are the best known example - they`ll hump anything when they feel like humping, but they will choose a dog of the other sex if that option is available. Sex for dominance also occurs in other animals.
  56. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 10:55 am
    So while you`re right that homosexual behaviour is quite common in many other animal species, homosexuality as the term is applied to humans is not.

    But I reject the whole argument anyway. Humans are different to all other animals in some ways and so the comparison is deeply flawed. It`s also part of the "natural" argument, which is a false appeal to authority applied ludicrously inconsistently and is therefore utterly meaningless. It`s an argument used by people who don`t have an argument and are hoping no-one will notice.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    January 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    I`ve been sipping my tea and musing a bit, and having done so... well here`s my nugget o` wisdom for the day.

    When a man can be completely comfortable around gay people, when he doesn`t need to posture and display aggression toward those he believes are beneath him/a threat to him; when he can be courageously vulnerable and sweet, gentle and kind,--in short when he is utterly confident in his own Masculinity- there is nothing sexier than that.

    Just a little food for thought from chick world straight guys...
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    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 9:26 pm
    @patchgrabber

    You are citing one instance of my exchange with "it" while I am talking about the responses as a whole. They have been just shy of abusive and attacking from the beginning. Using key words to put me in a specific light despite my attempts at legitimate discourse. So yes the term applies. It is more an attack on the person than the issue.
    This whole thing has turned into nothing more than a few people trying to bully their opinion onto others and assuming they are correct because they are the most abrasive and "loud."
  59. Profile photo of CynicalGamer
    CynicalGamer Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    Just thought I should point out to you braniacs who have been going out of your way to prove that I was incorrect when I supposedly said "ad hominem" when if you scroll down you will actually see what I typed was "Argumentum ad Hominem."
    Now go fire up wikipedia and learn a little something.
  60. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    Just thought I should point out to you braniacs who have been going out of your way to prove that I was incorrect when I supposedly said "ad hominem" when if you scroll down you will actually see what I typed was "Argumentum ad Hominem."
    Now go fire up wikipedia and learn a little something.

    I could read Latin 30 years ago, thank you. Besides, it`s a common phrase in modern English.

    `ad hominem` is the usual shortening because that`s the key point of the phrase.

    And you`re trying to distract attention from the fact that what you claimed I wrote was not what I actually wrote and it wasn`t ad hominem.

    Well, that didn`t work.
  61. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    January 30, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    You are citing one instance of my exchange with "it" while I am talking about the responses as a whole. They have been just shy of abusive and attacking from the beginning.

    The argument you were making deserves abuse and attack:

    It`s irrelevant to everything.

    You`re applying it in a way which is wildly inconsistent.

    Then there`s the cherry on the cake - your bizarre scenario of everyone being homosexual. That has no relevance to reality.

    You might or might not be intelligent and/or well educated.

    Your argument is dumb. Very dumb. Amusingly dumb. It deserves to be derided, in case anyone is fooled into thinking it makes any sense.
  62. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    January 31, 2012 at 6:17 am
    So yes the term applies. It is more an attack on the person than the issue.

    Um...no. Maybe you need to read wiki, because if you did you might see that there were rational arguments to the issue, but since apparently his derisive comment is all you noticed, then went and cried ad hominem because you had nothing of note to say.

    you will actually see what I typed was "Argumentum ad Hominem."
    Now go fire up wikipedia and learn a little something.

    Red herring.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2012 at 8:12 am
    America still to far behind
  64. Profile photo of Sonsglow
    Sonsglow Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    This is *not* an issue of America being far behind. It`s an issue of the whole world oppressing homosexuals. There are only 9 countries that have legalized marriage equality worldwide (technically 10, but you can`t count South Africa as it is only legal on paper; in practice, homosexuals are routinely raped and murdered there). There are, however, 6 US states wherein marriage equality has been established - 7 if you include DC. What I`m saying is that marriage equality in the United States would almost double the current availability of it worldwide. Even at that, it would still leave about 93% of the world`s population with inequality in regard to the issue of marriage.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
    663 posts
    January 31, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    "When a man can be completely comfortable around gay people, when he doesn`t need to posture and display aggression toward those he believes are beneath him/a threat to him; when he can be courageously vulnerable and sweet, gentle and kind,--in short when he is utterly confident in his own Masculinity- there is nothing sexier than that."

    This has nothing to do with someones comfort about their sexuality. This is just your own fantasy of a man. Men tend to "posture themselves" and act aggressively because we`re male, and that`s what most of us do.

    If I`m being a dick to someone and not acting "gentle and kind", chances are it`s because they just said something stupid or are wearing a tapout shirt, not because I`m uncomfortable with whether or not I`m attracted to another man.

    Seems like just about 99% of women are attracted to that macho poo too.
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    HiEv Male 40-49
    621 posts
    January 31, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    @CynicalGamer: "Arguing against whether or not being gay is natural against the use of air conditioners? WTF? Being gay is not natural."

    A) "Gay is not natural": False. Examples of homosexual behavior are found in nature, ergo, gay *is* natural. (see here)

    B) Underlying assumption "Natural is good": False. Anthrax, asbestos, and most gamma ray bursts are natural, but they can kill you dead.

    C) Underlying assumption "Not-natural stuff is bad": False. Air conditioning, eyeglasses, etc., on the other hand, are not natural, but *are* good.

    B & C are both part of what is known as the "naturalistic fallacy".

    Anyways, I think we should go back to the original definition of marriage in the Bible, when it was between one man and one or more women. ;-) (Genesis
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    February 1, 2012 at 2:03 am
    @8BitHero, you look like something I`d wipe my ass with.
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    Wendypants Female 30-39
    2420 posts
    February 5, 2012 at 8:43 am
    I know I`m really late in replying to all these posts but I have to post something at EgalM!! Read the book "A natural history of sex"... in it you find out about a variety of lemmings/moles. There are only female ones; there have only ever been female ones! How do they procreate, you ask? They take turns pretending to be males; the lemming/mole in the female role spontaneously gets pregnant. Yup, how`s that for your immaculate conception?
    So shut the drat up about how it`s unnatural and wrong; if god didn`t want homosexuality in his world, why is it everywhere?
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    Wendypants Female 30-39
    2420 posts
    February 5, 2012 at 8:44 am
    Sorry, I have forgotten the name of the author but it was a very interesting read!
    And that post was also for people who insist that homosexuality interrupts procreation.
    :)
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    February 8, 2012 at 5:57 am
    I`m so bored of this topic too.

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