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Date: 12/05/11 12:15 PM

24 Responses to What Google And Facebook Are Hiding From You

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
    18410 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    Link: What Google And Facebook Are Hiding From You - Eli Pariser discusses how Google and Facebook filter what you see and have access to.Tin foil hat or legit concern?
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
    677 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 12:40 pm
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    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    EVERYBODY, use Ghostery... I get so called "pure search", not personalized search. I was trying to SEO one site, the other admins didn`t see the problem as their searches showed that page at the top and wondered why there was a lot of complaints that the page is not searchable.. I`ve been 6 months (or more) without google analytics and my search results are radically different. I like it..

    For ex, in this very page, there are 8 trackers that monitor your browsing at this moment:
    - Comscore Beacon
    - DemandMedia
    - DemDex
    - Double Click (evil)
    - Facebook Connect (very evil)
    - Google Analytics (very evil)
    - Optimizely
    - Twitter Button (evil)

    Those marked evil are the large ones we need to worry about, they are selling this info and using them freely without your consent.

    Install Ghostery, Adblock+ and NoScript. Not only do they enhace privacy, they actually makes your browsing faster...
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    iceblack Male 18-29
    551 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 1:38 pm
    How is this remotely "hidden"?
    If you didn`t know this you live under a rock, are
    stupid, or you just click "Agree" without even reading

    It`s your OWN fault for agreeing with their policy,
    which is totally legal and fair because they are
    PRIVATE organizations and have the right to do what ever
    they want with it

    God, sometimes I hate people who think they can force
    organizations to do what ever they want. The client is
    not always right, and even if it is, it`s not their right
    do demand ANYTHING, that`s just nice words
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    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    In your world view, organizations (say corporations as that just what they are, a business) can do anything they want and you have only two options: use it or not. Like we have no right to even remotely critizise these non-living entities..

    And since you say that it is our fault of agreeing with their policy, i think my previous comment was all about NOT agreeing with their policy. Services they provide are great but normal user will never know that they are being monitored so deeply. I didn`t agree on anything when i first visited for ex I-A-B and still my actions were monitored... Where`s the agreement that i can sign here? Or where is this information when you search with Google? The correct analoque would be to buy food that has no ingredients listed....

    Not that I-A-B is evil, every site uses these tools...

    The point is, we trust these organizations and they abuse that trust.
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    neromondomor Male 18-29
    6 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    Very good
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    uatme Male 18-29
    1068 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 2:17 pm
    Its hard to consume a jacket that was not tailored to me...
  8. Profile photo of iceblack
    iceblack Male 18-29
    551 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Here`s Google`s Privacy Policy, and here`s the Terms of Service page. It says that, by simply using their services, you are subject to their policy (Which, by very definition, they DO NOT have to ask you to agree with, it`s your responsability to read it before).

    Here`s IAB Privacy Policy, which you are also subject to by registering and using any service on the page.

    Yes, we do have the right to "criticize" any org., but we do not have a SAY in it. See the difference?

    And yeah, you are right, we trust them... We shouldn`t. That`s our fault
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    iceblack Male 18-29
    551 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    I don`t think I need to tell you to "READ" at least the
    basic info, for example, what kind of info these sites
    collect and for what purposes... It`s very clear and
    it takes a little patience and intelligence to find
    it, so don`t come at me if you don`t even try first
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    birdz Female 18-29
    77 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    Thanks for the link to Ghostery! It has me back in a tinfoil hat mode, lol. (I`m being watched... EvErYwHeRe...)
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    Title wrong, they aren`t HIDING anything from you. They are showing you what is more relevant to you. How dare they take very broad search terms and show you things related to what you have looked at elsewhere.

    All you have to drating do is use more than ONE word in your search and the personalization becomes that much less.
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    Purpleraisin Male 13-17
    6 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Ghostery ftw =D
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    Sonsglow Male 18-29
    201 posts
    December 5, 2011 at 9:36 pm
    How about, the reason that people know, and subsequently care, more about the Kardashians than about issues pertinent to real life is BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE THEIR IGNORANCE. The reason I am hard pressed to name more than a dozen actors/actresses in favor of hoarding obscene amounts of statistics and information on the degradation of the world is BECAUSE I CHOOSE THE MISERY OF BEING INFORMED. Choice. Plain and simple. This is not "big brother" it is not a conspiracy - put poo about the Oscars or Justin Bieber on my Facebook or Google and it will come with a guarantee of me not paying it any attention. Put an article about Greece leaving the Eurozone on the Facebook or Google of the average TMZ viewer and it will likewise come with a guarantee of getting ignored. This is why some people buy Cosmo, some buy Scientific American, some Playboy, some Nintendo Power, and so on and so forth: it`s because people choose and act - the pretentious finger-point at "control" isn`t al
  14. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14455 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 12:00 am
    All those people that you don`t agree with on IAB? They`re not trolls; they are the differing viewpoint, the perspective that you`d lose if you surrounded yourself with people you agreed with.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14455 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 12:16 am
    Thansk @ CreamK!

    I run AdBlock and it has made a major improvement on how fast IAB runs. I even got rid of most of the annoying parts of the interface while still having a full featured experience on it.

    Ghostly found these trackers on this page:
    * Comscore Beacon
    * Demand Media
    * DemDex
    * DoubleClick
    * Google Analytics
    * Optimizely

    I think twitter button and facebook warnings don`t pop because I blocked those elements in IAB with AdBlock.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2738 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 1:14 am
    Sort of like the moderators on IAB.
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    Sifu Male 18-29
    5 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 6:03 am
    Hm i am searching always for porn and when i write something else in the google i dont get porn related sites :( what should i do to correct this ?
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    Pandabee Female 40-49
    857 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 6:06 am
    There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see.

    I am quoting Leonardo Da Vinci, as I fall into the second group and I can`t think of a better way to put it. I need to be pointed in new directions that I would not have thought of, it may not be a conspiracy, but it makes my world a lot grayer.
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    Thetas Male 18-29
    1540 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 9:45 am
    This isn`t a tinfoil hat sort of thing. I dislike being shown stuff based on what a computer thinks I want, and it has been pretty obvious about it.

    The other thing I hate is after I research, say, what keyboard I want to buy and then buy it, then I-A-B shows me ads for keyboards for a week or two after.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 9:51 am
    Install Ghostery, Adblock+ and NoScript. Not only do they enhace privacy, they actually makes your browsing faster...

    Hmm...what do Ghostery and Adblock+ do that NoScript doesn`t?

    On a related note, do you now how to configure Firefox 8 to delete ordinary cookies on exit but retain Flash cookies/LSOs? I`d rather have it that way and use Better Privacy to delete Flash stuff because BP has a whitelist and I want to keep LSOs for games I play.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 10:16 am
    @iceblack- no one is insinuating that it isn`t legal and fair. They are saying that it`s not the right thing for the future of the internet. They are doing this for all the right reasons, they just have the wrong idea.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10445 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 10:40 am
    I will have to look into putting google back on it`s leash... after exams.
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    savagemonkey Male 18-29
    21 posts
    December 6, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    Well... if you were actually clicking on those links of opposing ideas, wouldn`t they keep showing up? I respond more often to people who post things I don`t agree with, and my google and facebook both seem pretty balanced. Maybe just don`t TALK about wanting your ideas challenged and getting a balanced intake, but DO it. Nobody makes you put the cigarette or the extra piece of pizza down. You have to do it yourself.
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    slbtiger Female 30-39
    105 posts
    December 7, 2011 at 3:49 am
    savagemonkey you are missing the point. Those opposing view links are not showing up on the screen. We do not have the choice to click on them or not.

    These are legitimate concerns about our online future, not conspiracy theories.

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