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Date: 12/08/11 09:15 AM

50 Responses to The Gingrich Who Stole Christmas

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    December 8, 2011 at 8:44 am
    Link: The Gingrich Who Stole Christmas - You`re a Mean One, Newt Gingrich!
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:20 am
    I was enjoying it until the 1% thing. His child labour policy is dumb enough on its own, no need to re-hash the 99/1 argument.
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    Freyr108 Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:21 am
    I don`t see any problem with taht, hes not saying that every child has to do it, hes jsut saying, if your family needs money, they have the choice to work and make some money.
    In japan those kid have to clean the school for free
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:27 am

    OMG! That was brilliant!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Newt has some great ideas.
    Repeal child labor laws, get rid of minimum wage, drop social security and medicare. Amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens {more like 33 mil!}.

    He`s recreating the 1850 when you had children in sweatshops working 16 hour days 6 days a week. But it`s okay because no one will suffer long. We`ll all die early with no health care, which means we won`t need Old Age pensions like SSI.
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    max5121 Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:31 am
    I do not get it. Whats the problem with employing students? Its not forced and they get payed. Im not saying he is a good person but I don`t see whats wrong with that idea. I would have tried to get a job at school if I had the opportunity.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:34 am
    Whats the problem with employing students?
    I, for one, would not trust a high school student in the office of the school. That kind of access is playing with fire. I also don`t know how many students would want to be the janitors of their own school, and again I wouldn`t trust a student with keys to rooms in the school.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:35 am
    The only point this video trys to pick on is teaching children to work. Honestly he has a point. Its not like our kids are not doing this on their own. think of what it takes to actually complete today`s video games, or the dedication it takes to really make it in school sports. Kids are willing to take up bike routes and even sell dope across the city.

    People are criticizing him because he is willing to highlight something that most people are too afraid to say out loud. instead of teach our kids responsibility, we are teaching them that everything is someone else`s responsibility.

    TBH, the Master janitor/student janitor is one of the best things I have ever heard. If nothing else it would teach kids to once again take care of their schools and maybe respect those that work to take care of it.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:37 am
    "I, for one, would not trust a high school student in the office of the school. That kind of access is playing with fire. I also don`t know how many students would want to be the janitors of their own school, and again I wouldn`t trust a student with keys to rooms in the school."

    Yet you are basing your argument on a lack of supervision or job assignments. Some jobs you dont give to students, that should be common sense. Also, kids and teens learning how to work is making a school what it is, a place to teach. The real world is thus, you will work for your money, so really, stop sheltering our kids.
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    reidcook1000 Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:38 am
    KIDS WORK!?!? That`s unnatural! Come on, I would have loved to have been able to do janitorial work as a student. I needed the cash, and the school would have been a great place for me to work. Plus, maybe if kids know how much of a pain in the ass it is to do janitorial work, they won`t be throwing trash in the halls or clogging toilets with paper towels.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:38 am
    I had a job when I was 14...is that not legal now?

    I expect today`s kids are too soft.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:40 am
    Really patchgrabber? Next time you see that 12 year old pushing a lawnmower up the street trying to make a buck, you walk outside and tell that kid how he doesnt deserve to be making money, and if he does work for someone, its child labor and he should not be getting paid.

    Seriously, children are capable and willing to work. Its the pussy ass parents that havent pulled their children away from the tit long enough to realize the kids been drinking beer the whole time.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:40 am
    Also, kids and teens learning how to work is making a school what it is, a place to teach.

    My high school had a work experience program that counted for credit but had students working at local businesses instead of the school itself. Unnecessary child labour policy is unnecessary.
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    max5121 Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:45 am
    hahaha what a story patchgrabber.
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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:55 am
    I had to do my chores to get my pocketmoney... if doing a little bit more chores got me more pay i possibly would of.
    There is a difference between 1850`s where they took ophans and stuffed them up chimneys or under machines causing quite a lot of deaths, just so they can eat... and giving kids the option to empty some bins to earn some extra money if it`s needed.

    True there would be perants who would wish to force it upon their kids, but then you put laws in place to protect the kids from that happening.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:09 am
    "My high school had a work experience program that counted for credit but had students working at local businesses instead of the school itself. Unnecessary child labour policy is unnecessary.
    "

    How is working at a local business different than working at a school? They are going to empty trash at both, they are going to mop floor at both, they will be a child working at both. You make no ground on your argument. All you have said is, "Its not right for them to work here, so make them work there".

    You sound like the type of person that is blind to reality. No, kids dont mow lawns for money. Nope, we dont send our 10 year olds out to sell some crappy chocolate for highway robbery prices. Seriously, look around you before calling something unnecessary. Honestly you match my point, take the fvucking tit out of your kids mouth and watch them work on their own accord!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:14 am

    "I do not get it. Whats the problem with employing students?"
    Nothing, in high school, but he`s not putting an age cap on it. How about a 10 year old? An 8 year old? He`s proposing we repeal child labor laws. You know these things ALWAYS expand. Start with the school, then let them work anywhere after school "to help out the family" then it`s just put them to work.

    Do NOT repeal child labor laws!
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:33 am
    >>> You know these things ALWAYS expand.<<<

    Yep just like any government program.

    I worked summer picking tomatoes. Learned to show up on time, work hard, and that I did not want to do that the rest of my life. This experience is gone for kids now. Those jobs are taken by migrant workers.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:46 am
    And so the leftists & MSM attacks begin! Who`d have guessed?

    Of course they attacked Obama just as much, eh?

    ...and if you believe THAT one...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:47 am
    In japan those kid have to clean the school for free
    Excellent point @Freyr108! Excellent!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Agreed, working is good for kids. I did the same thing {strawberries} with the child labor laws intact. My Cousin Dougie picked pinto beans. He`s got a farm now and his boy picks pinto beans. All without repealing child labor laws. It is dangerous to remove those protections against abuse of child labor. Gingrich`s concept that poor kids have carreer choices limited to whore, pimp or janitor is flawed.

    So he repeals child labor laws. He`s also proposed repealing minimum wage lows. Now you have 10 year olds working for 1-2 dollars per hour. That`s really gonna help out the family... not as much as an education will!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Japan: kids clean schools....

    I like the Japanese model. Kids clean their own schools as part of their daily schedule. But they don`t make only poor students do it. ALL students work together. All students learn the lessons of work and community service. Great idea.

    You can`t compare it with Gingrich repealing child labor laws.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:01 am
    Oh god damnit. So now they are taking a comment about lessening child labor laws so 12 year olds can do menial jobs like sweep a school, or rake a yard, and twisting them around to say Newt wants to put 10 year olds to work in the fields or some poo?

    drating stupid. I hate politics.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:03 am
    The whole point of Gingrich`s comments, was to lessen the burden on families.

    Also, if I had the opportunity to make a legit wage at 12?! poo I would have been all over it!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:07 am

    AJ - This is Newt Gingrich. In the 1990`s as part of his "Contract With America" he proposed taking all the poor children away from poor parents and raising them in government orphanages to break the cycle of poverty. He quickly stopped proposing that idea after the screaming started, but it gives you insight into his ideas.

    He`s proposed eliminating minimum wage I guess because $7.00 per hour is just too extravagant.
    He wants to drop SSI and Medicare.
    The man`s a lunatic. Can you believe he only wants a couple of kids to work and that no one will abuse the opportunity to put children to work? It would be naive in the excess to think that.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:12 am
    Focus on the things he can actually achieve. He can`t get the wage dropped. He can`t get rid of SSI and Medicare. Instead, look at things like, lowering the legal working age from 14 to 12. That`s doable, and fair, and would help families.

    Also, It isn`t one of the things that`s doable in our society, but I don`t think I`d have a problem with the thing you said about taking welfare babies away from parents who are just using those kids to get a paycheck and putting them into good homes. The problem with it, is you would have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the parent was using the child for welfare.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:18 am
    How is working at a local business different than working at a school? They are going to empty trash at both, they are going to mop floor at both, they will be a child working at both. You make no ground on your argument

    Except for the fact that no one lost their job at these local businesses so that the kids could work. You need to calm down and think before you write. I agree with Gerry, nothing is wrong with high school kids working, I just doubt that they would be willing to for the most part, and I also don`t agree with firing janitors, secretaries, etc. just so students can work, especially when it`s not necessary.

    You sound like the type of person that is blind to reality.

    And you sound like the type of person who misinterprets someone else`s meaning and throws a fit about it.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:26 am



    Because now I`m obligated to do it.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 11:27 am
    And so the leftists & MSM attacks begin! Who`d have guessed?

    Of course they attacked Obama just as much, eh?

    Again? Saying that the left doesn`t criticize Obama is pointless, because the right never criticizes their golden-boys either, yet time and again you bring this up. We get it, you`ve cracked the Da Vinci code and the left won`t criticize their own.

    Yawn.
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    When i was a child the liberals made me (and my entire school) go down to the beach and pickup trash for free.

    My child`s preschool teacher makes the kids clean the classroom. She even lets them vacuum and use glass cleaner.

    Teachers do it: Dawww, thats so cute getting the kids to help!
    Liberals do it: Its for the earth!
    Republican says it: Read comments below
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    Epic @ Tacos. I remember when I was in middle school, I was made to mop the lunchroom at my school by a liberal racist black principal.

    I was being taught a lesson I suppose. The lesson was, WORK IS GOOD FOR YOU!
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    Mimbles Female 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Am I supposed to be outraged by this? I worked in the front office of my school and in the library, and these kids would paid? We had extra curriculars that cleaned the school. I don`t see the difference between what hes saying and what already goes on.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 8, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    When i was a child the liberals made me (and my entire school) go down to the beach and pickup trash for free.

    My elementary school teachers made us do the same in our local park, they disguised it as a treasure hunt, on `Earth Day.
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    Hightech90 Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    Ron Paul 2012, problem solved
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    drat that Hightech. Terrorists would have a field day on our asses, be cause he wouldn`t do poo to them, but he would lock down America and all of our freedoms would be gone.
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    Bottleofrum Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm
    they pulled that earth day bullpoo on me to :(
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    @Tacos4Brkfst: Well said! FTW!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    @ Taco ... the differance is the teachers and `liberals` don`t have to repeal child labor laws to teach the lessons of work and working-together.

    There`s no valid reason to repeal the protective laws to do what Gringrich proposes. He`s just using the poor school kid as a poster child to open the door for child labor.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 4:13 pm



    Clearly, this shows the true nature of the Newt (In Republicanland).
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
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    December 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    Im not saying make sweatshops in america legal. I dont think anyone would suggest that.

    I see nothing wrong with letting 12 year olds come in and stock the shelves at a gas station, scrub some cars at a carwash, mop the gymnasium floors or trim some hedges.

    I used to mow lawns when i was 12.. Had no safety equipment, often the lawns i was mowing nobody would be home at the time. It was pretty dangerous as far as working conditions go come to think of it.

    I crossed the street to help the little market stock their coolers when i was pretty young too. They paid me in soda and candy. Sure was some cheap labor for them. Kinda too bad i couldn`t get minimum wage.

    Beacuse this thread needs some racism too.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 8, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    How about this...there aren`t enough jobs for adults. Why put more workers out there competing for the jobs?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 9, 2011 at 4:47 am
    Gerry: Liberals are perfectly fine with teaching elementary school students about sex, gays, condoms, etc... But they get their panties in a bunch over teaching kids to work ?

    Newt is not advocating work houses for children, like in some Dickens novel, He`s talking about teaching kids the value of working for a living.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    December 9, 2011 at 5:33 am
    @CrakrJak- I`m fine with that as long as it`s done in the middle class and the upper class as well; Those are the kids that most need to learn about honest labor- and perhaps fat old Newt should get off his flabby butt and work as well.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 9, 2011 at 7:10 am

    CJ - Don`t be naive, I think Newt is after exactly that. He uses the `poor student work program` to pitch the idea and by the time you realise your grand child is working in a factory it`s too late.

    Even if St. Newt is only doing good as you suggest, others less scrupulous will take advantage of lax child labor laws and eliminating the minimum wage.

    Maybe this is how Newt will solve the economic problems...cheep child labor.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 9, 2011 at 7:12 am

    @ CaptKangaroo - Nope. It`s only for the poor kids.

    "Class, it`s study period. I want you all to read chapter 5. Everyone except ... you go mop the floor and clean the toilets."
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 9, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    Ooo! @Gerry1`s got his knickers in a knot over this issue! I thought he was "unflappable"!

    ...there aren`t enough jobs for adults
    How about clearing out the 10 MILLION + illegals and thus allowing the market forces to improve wages for currently low-paying jobs? No gov`t interference needed, free markets have worked pretty well since 1776 eh?
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    December 9, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    Cheated on his wife while he was impeaching Clinton for cheating on HIS wife. Serves his cancer-stricken wife the divorce papers while she`s in the hospital. WHY do Republicans even let this creep speak for them, let alone run for president?
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    December 10, 2011 at 7:00 am
    The truth shall set you free!

    Beautiful!
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    Rogan Female 18-29
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    December 12, 2011 at 11:40 am
    HAHAHA great!

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