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129 Responses to Saying Merry Christmas Worse Than Killing Someone

  1. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Link: Saying Merry Christmas Worse Than Killing Someone - According to this muslim scholar. To him I say, ``Go Merry Christmas Yourself!``
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    I wish I could of heard something other than `durkha durkha durkha, Allah, Mohammad, Durkah durkha durkah`, but I didn`t. This man is talking nonsense.
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    BritInvasion Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    belief: he`s allowed one
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    Very interesting, Mr. Fundamentalist Muslim. But riddle me this: Is drinking eggnog worse than having unprotected sex with Snooki from The Jersey Shore?

    Not so smart *now*, are you?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    So just say "Allah Akbar" and smile! No need to get all worked up about it.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    merry christmas mr muslim!
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    This guy, like most people, Christian or not, obviously don`t understand the Liturgical calendar. Everyone knows Christ wasn`t born in the middle of December. It`s just how the church`s calendar is set up. It wouldn`t make sense to have Easter time a week away from Christmas time, in the church or out of the church.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Like any other religion they have every right to say that their "God" is the real "God" but they take it a step further feeling it`s their duty to convert the whole world to Islam and kill anyone who refuses to accept it as the one, true faith. It`s reminiscent of the Catholic`s Crusades in the 11th, 12th & 13th centuries.
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    he is referring to the first commandment for muslims, "God is only 1." and by saying "merry christmas," you are denouncing the first rule of belief, destroying the foundation. In islam, all sins are forgivable but a few, and this is one of them, (association with God).
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    DougSalad Male 13-17
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    he said merry christmas while telling people not to say merry christmas
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    SunnyNphilly Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    F*ck this rag top. Your uncle rapes your wife and she gets stoned. Ya, you have such a great understanding of life.
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    SaintsFan Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    Well, he`s off the Christmas card list.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    To this nincompoop I say not only Merry Christmas but Merry Yule as well. (He`s gotta love that one even more.)
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    This is a totally logical position to take when your religion places zero value on human life.
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    Dick_Head Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    Hey there mister muslim, merry drating christmas. It`s Jesus` birthday you heathen retard.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    he said Merry Christmas 4 times
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    christians say exactly the same thing about islam...that it is a shame, false, their holidays don`t matter.

    the problem you all are having with it is that you do not see your criticism of islam as the same thing.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    DuckBoy87
    you are partially right. Jesus was not born in December but not because the church calendar...

    you need to study a certain roman emperor and pagan history to know why.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    It`s f-ing impossible to avoid hearing `Merry Christmas` so why bother trying? At least half of the 19 Best Secular Songs use the term.

    In Christopher Hitchen`s book, God Is Not Great, he claims that monotheistic religions are expressing a new determination to replace all other religious views. I don`t want to believe him but videos like this make me wonder.
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    shadowmagini Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    http://www.3dbdotcom.com/
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    When meat heads like this start talking, I like to play this song.
  22. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    Merry Christmas from the Middle East CrakrJak. ;)

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    Loxen Female 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    No no no... This dude is doing it all wrong. You want to get Christians mad over Christmas you use this video:
    Stuff you don`t want to know about Xmas.
    I *almost* submitted this link to IAB... but I didn`t want my name attached to it. Its way too flame-baity, and I tend to prefer my trolling subtle.
  24. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    In the muslim religion, faith is primary. This isn`t new.

    I think CrakrJak has taken the FoxNews end of the stick here.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    Baal: I`m going to assume you meant "Merry Christmas" in the good way. :-)
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    trolololol
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    Proof that not only Christians are bat poo crazy.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    I hate Christians AND Muslims. Screw Christmas and all loonies who have a make-believe friend in the sky.
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    den3jlb Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    Let`s send him death threats and blow up his house.

    Oh wait, just remembered that we`re human, not rabid brainwashed animals.
  30. Profile photo of NOCASH
    NOCASH Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    Im with Christopher Hitchens on this one guys.
  31. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Wow... this is great.

    eh hhuuummm

    Merry Christmas to you all.
    And I mean that from the bottom of my scrooglike heart.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    He should replace his turban with a dunce cap. What a maroon.
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    thefatviking Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    OMG, the butthurt levels are off the scale!
  34. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    [quote">This is a totally logical position to take when your religion places zero value on human life.[/quote">

    True, but as akabane has pointed out there is some internal consistency in his position. Shirk? Something like that.

    Yes, shirk

    But I think it`s a misunderstanding of the Christian trinity, which isn`t really a trinity as such. Most of the Muslims I`ve met have a better understanding of it and therefore aren`t bothered by it, particularly when it`s Christians doing it.

    But more importantly:

    IO SATURNALIA!
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:39 pm
    shufer i have to look that one up.

    i think both religions are messed up and should both go. christmas is mostly pegan anyway. and i feel almost the same way - i`m sick of the assumption that everyone is christian, and you get the merry christmas nonsense.

    the beard on him, looks silly, but i guess that`s a normal look. it`s interesting the hand wave he does, i guess that`s a muslim thing- like each culture has their own hand waving gestures...
  36. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    I didn`t catch that last part

    sounded like

    mashalaralakaliamafacktardtraba
  37. Profile photo of i-am-evil
    i-am-evil Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    Merry drating Christmas!
  38. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    Christmas has two parts to it-the Christian part, and the Santa part. EVERYONE can celebrate the Santa part of Christmas, and wishing someone a Merry Christmas, in my opinion, is part of the Santa part, but not the Christian part, of Christmas.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    To be completely fair, only the practicing Catholics should be saying Merry Christmas to one another. As the holiday became VERY profitable to corporations, they started selling Christmas to all religions. Then the saying "Merry Christmas" was being spread to everyone, regardless of their faith, be it, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, etc...

    If you don`t want to celebrate Christmas, then don`t. Just bear in mind: If you celebrate the same Christmas 99% of us celebrate, it is a corporate holiday, not a religious one....so don`t take offense.
  40. Profile photo of hi2pi
    hi2pi Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    well, Merry Christmas to you too.
  41. Profile photo of Smoothjc1
    Smoothjc1 Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    Well I personally Wish ALL the muslims in the world A MerrCHRISTmas.
  42. Profile photo of fps_will
    fps_will Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    I fornicate, drink alcohol and dream of killing people....what now derka derka
  43. Profile photo of dragonlord31
    dragonlord31 Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    go to hell you terrist!
  44. Profile photo of Devlarski
    Devlarski Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    I guess thats fair since I have zero knowledge of the muslim religion either.
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    Devlarski Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    Stuff like this doesn`t even deserve criticism, he obviously doesn`t understand what he talking about.
  46. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    How is this any different than what the conservative Republicans say about Muslims?
  47. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    To be completely fair, only the practicing Catholics should be saying Merry Christmas to one another.

    Why only Catholics and not other Christians? Only Christians, perhaps, but only 1 sect of Christians?
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:36 pm
    you see, there really are truths in sterotypes.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Hey I believe that the Christmas story was all about how an adultress escaped a stoning by lying to a credulous, uneducated husband and even I say merry xmas and a happy overeating and gift getting season to you all.
  50. Profile photo of i-am-evil
    i-am-evil Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:39 pm
    By following his logic, raping and then stoning to death your own daughter would not be as sinful as wishing someone a Merry Christmas. I am happy to see this fledging scholar has his prorities in line.
  51. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 6:39 pm
    @inversegray: Actually, there are times when CrakrJak is not a stereotypical as you think. Posting this video isn`t one of them.
  52. Profile photo of Kegomatix
    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 7:26 pm
    Ohhh religion is so stupid... Why won`t it just stop?
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 7:40 pm
    Me: Well, I`m not a Muslim, so that means I don`t have to abide by your religious laws, so...
    Muslim: NO! It is worse than murder if ANYONE says Merry Christmas! You are an infidel and you are going to hell!

    :|

    What a stupid, stupid, ideology.
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    myrtheus Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 7:44 pm
    Fornicating is bad? Wth? Why is it so good... I am so going to Christmas the hell out of my wife... I am going to deck her halls as I jingle my bells. Also I will call her a ho ho ho.
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    snakecharmer Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 8:08 pm
    Well mind your own Christmas business in your own Christmas country! The mods should change drat to Christmas
  56. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 8:08 pm
    RIP Hitchens. I might buy your book now.
  57. Profile photo of mykunter
    mykunter Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    Uh, what? I couldn`t understand him.

    Have a merry Ramadan... or whatever.
  58. Profile photo of LadyWeasel
    LadyWeasel Female 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 8:50 pm
    But HE just said Merry Christmas, several times. So....
  59. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    "By following his logic, raping and then stoning to death your own daughter would not be as sinful as wishing someone a Merry Christmas."

    Indeed, because unless she has three witnesses to prove it was not consensual, then she is guilty of fornication and the only penalty is stoning.

    "But HE just said Merry Christmas, several times. So...." I think it`s not if he is talking hypothetically. For example if he said in discussion that it is wrong to say that Mohammed liked to suck goat testicles and while forcibly inserting a ripe pink grapefruit up Allah`s unlubricated rectum then he would not be guilty or blasphemy, not even if he giggled a bit while saying it.
  60. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 9:07 pm
    jtrebowski: The problem is that here we don`t have preachers telling people that saying "Happy Ramadan, Happy Hanukkah, or Happy Saturnalia" is worse than murder. Our preachers don`t double as judges with legal authority to have you stoned to death. All preachers here don`t double as politicians/lawyers that sign edicts declaring your fornicating as a `deadly sin` punishable by whipping and/or stoning, with no appeals court, no jurisprudence, no Habeus Corpus, no bail, and you`re guilty until proven innocent.

    Over there the woman is guilty if she is raped unless 4 or 5 male witnesses come forward to say she was raped. Sharia a ludicrous antiquated system of justice that should be abolished worldwide.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    An alien! Woo-hoo, mullah so funny and hip and all.
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    andfrank03 Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 9:31 pm
    Someone doesn`t understand symbolism.

    When did islamic scholars become authoritative figures for christian holidays?

    lol, that is all.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    "Saying Merry Christmas Worse Than Killing Someone"... Says radical Muslim cleric. Those pesky Muslim people! No wait...



    Turns out I agreed with Hitchens long before I even had heard of him. Surely the underlying, deep-seated problem here is with religion, no matter what particular flavour you happened to have been born into.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    Umm, I`m not convinced. He didn`t actually say that saying Merry Christmas is worse than killing someone. He said the belief behind Christmas is, i.e. God being born on December 25th... btw that is blasphemous to Jews and Muslims, equivalent to, say, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is worse than murder for Christians.

    He said you shouldn`t say it because you`re "congratulating" that, but didn`t make the comparison of saying Merry Christmas to murder as the title suggests.
  65. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 10:20 pm
    In before Crakrjak distances himself from radical Christians as "not being REAL Christians", while (usually in the same post) declaring that this guy represents a very typical Muslim view of the Islamic population of the planet. You know, with their rape-victim-stoning, terrorist-supporting, suicide-bombing, stone-age ways. All the while never having ever even visited a Muslim country.

    In 3...2...1...
  66. Profile photo of VirtualParty
    VirtualParty Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    drat THIS GUY
  67. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 17, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    The concept we have to respect all cultures is bull schitt.
    I acknowledge their culture but "respect"... no.

    As Carkr pointed out a woman is guilty and there can be no excuse for premairital sex...not even if it`s force on her against her will. Put her in jail, then when she`s out the family will do an honor killing. I`m supposed to "respect" this culture? No way.

    In Pakistan, a blind woman was convited of premarital sex. She had been raped but because whe was blind she could`nt identify her attacker. She got 10 years in a Pakistani prison. In Iraq, a brother killed his 19 year old sister because see had been raped by their brother. He then ran into the street shouting he had restored honor to their family.

    I`m not real sympathetic to the arab or islamic culture.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    December 17, 2011 at 10:45 pm
    "Muslim scholar" - Candidate for the world`s best oxymoron. (Unless "religious scholar" takes the blue ribbon.)
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    December 17, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    "The problem is that here we don`t have preachers telling people that saying `Happy Ramadan, Happy Hanukkah, or Happy Saturnalia` is worse than murder."

    No, that is not a problem. No right minded person would think that blaspheming is worse than murder.

    Reality check: if your imaginary friend`s rule book says your imaginary friend`s feelings are more important than real people, real families, that the metaphysical supersedes tangible, self-evident morals, then your rule book`s moral compass is duff.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    December 17, 2011 at 11:54 pm
    religion is drating stupid... period
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 11:54 pm
    I am just plain too tired to get in on this thread.....

    Muslim Bigot is a Muslim Bigot....
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    December 17, 2011 at 11:56 pm
    OK, just one...

    "All preachers here don`t double as politicians/lawyers that sign edicts declaring your fornicating as a `deadly sin` punishable by whipping and/or stoning, with no appeals court, no jurisprudence, no Habeus Corpus, no bail, and you`re guilty until proven innocent.
    "

    You mean..."anymore" right??
  73. Profile photo of Neagle
    Neagle Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2011 at 12:11 am
    I`m betting this guy never has had , or ever will have, consensual sex with anyone.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2011 at 2:54 am
    You`re nuts too.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 5:09 am
    He`s no more bigoted than any other Christian or Jew I have listened to.
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    annelieswm Female 13-17
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    December 18, 2011 at 5:23 am
    `Muslim scholar` pshhht. He clearly has never listened to an Islamic teaching in his life. Muslims believe in Jesus, they just believe he was a teacher, not the son of God. I wouldn`t tell a student it would be better to kill someone than wish their teacher a happy birthday...
  77. Profile photo of LilyLily
    LilyLily Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 5:37 am
    Like has been said, the views of one radical idiot do not represent the majority. Most/all of those of the Muslim faith that I have met have been great people.

    You have to think of the environment that raises these types of people though. I recommend reading The Rugmaker if you ever get a chance. these children are often taught by family and beyond that warped, extremest `religion` is the only truth. Often kids are drafted/forced into militant groups (sometimes terrorist groups) because their parents believe this, and fed the same garbage, and they believe it. Many are physically harmed. And they are raised that this is normal and ok and it`s the way the world should be because some book, that they cannot read themselves due to being mostly illiterate, says so.

    It`s hard to explain. You really have to go there and see it to understand. Kids are raised that this is ok, that they should kill. The woman who is raped is raised to believe she deserves death. It`s horrible
  78. Profile photo of LilyLily
    LilyLily Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 5:44 am
    The key to breaking this cycle? Better care, laws, and education. Set up schools, make it compulsory for kids to stay to say, 16. Children that are educated can read and seek information and THINK for themselves instead of blindly following what they are told. The problem is these issues within these countries are seen as acceptable, even morally right (Eg, honour killings). Educate people so they can make their own distinctions between right and wrong. As someone studying teaching and having seen this first hand, it really works. And personally (not statistically) people from 2nd and 3rd world countries are, in my experience, much less likely to be bias or bigoted (That goes for any nationality or religion, by the way) when they have had access to a good, solid education.

    Knowledge is power!

    Of course, laws protecting children and preventing killings etc would also help, but no one would be willing to pass them. Educating people though means that maybe the next gene
  79. Profile photo of EgalM
    EgalM Male 30-39
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    December 18, 2011 at 6:41 am
    I`m actually starting to feel bad for these types of people. They have been lied to and mislead, and it`s really a shame.
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    andybme Male 50-59
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    December 18, 2011 at 6:41 am
    Every time I see these freaks in their muslime garb ranting about their religion I get a headache. Make that every time I see them period. One big headache.
  81. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2011 at 6:53 am
    @LilyLily

    Radical Islam is stronger than education. Heck, even dilute Christianity can`t generally be broken with education. It`s deep cultural conditioning and indoctrination.
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    LilyLily Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 7:23 am
    @Draculya Their is a lot of truth to that of course, but educating the up and coming generation is one of the best ways to combat it. While respecting religion and culture, yes, but not tolerating these atrocities against others. It`s going to be a long, multigenerational thing to change the mindset of a country, and it has to be voluntary. Education, of course, to broaden minds does do wonders. Increases in standards of living also, so children can actually go to school instead of being put to work, or worse, handed over to militant organisations.

    Half the problem IS the education itself. Oh boy. One school I saw solely taught the Qur`an (And while religious education is nothing I have anything against, this was bizzare) the teacher was barley literate, and would take `examples`, in one directly telling these (Pakistani) children that they should hate and kill Indians. For those that don`t know there is old animosity between the two, but this is like telling nations-
  83. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    December 18, 2011 at 7:24 am
    @CrakrJak: You are applying what radical fundementalists do "over there" to mainstream Christians over here. That doesn`t work.

    Oh...and just how do you plan to abolish sharia world-wide?
  84. Profile photo of LilyLily
    LilyLily Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 7:29 am
    - to kill each other if they ever got the opportunity for something that happened before their birth. In short, these kids were raised with the old vendetta and never questioned it because they didn`t have any other experiences or readings or thoughts to make comparisons and decide for themselves. It was terrible to watch.

    By the time I left most of the female children above 12 were pulled from the `school` (I use that term loosely) for marriage, half the boys coerced into joining the militaria (Some even willingly, thinking it was their duty. Brainwashing at it`s finest) and the other half to work.

    Basicly, these children know nothing else. They are raised to think this way. They therefore cannot make educated decisions. I asked one boy why he was wanted to join a militant organisation, he did not know why. He would be expected to kill people, and people like me (European decent) would be his targets.-
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    LilyLily Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 7:34 am
    I asked him about it. He would have been happy to gun me down if ordered, even though we were friends, and thats in his own words.

    And these children, raised this way to think in these rigid ways, will eventually grow up to take adult positions in society, have their own children, and raise them the same. The cycle repeats endlessly. But, nip that in the bud by EDUCATING children about the world, about peace and respecting others and giving them skills for jobs and to decide for themselves? You create a freer thinking generation, and every subsequent one, being less suppressed by their parents, is even more free thinking.

    It`s all about educating these children that they have a CHOICE and that what they do hurts others. Obviously this would need to be supplemented by laws to protect children from harm amongst other things, but it can be done.
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    Qystein Male 18-29
    159 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 7:44 am
    We don`t call it for "Christmas"(translated to "kristmesse") in Norway. We celebrate "Jul" from the old norse word "jol / jólablót". That were the old norse tradition of celebrating mid-vinter. Celebrated with a meat-feast and gifts with close friends and family.
    So most of you people, do actually celebrate "jul" not christmas..
    So have a "good jul" everyone :)
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    Pandabee Female 40-49
    857 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 7:48 am
    LilyLily you should met my MIL, she can`t understand why education is important...why? because she didn`t have a good education and it never did her any harm. Education is absolutely the most important gift that you can give a child. I always tell my DD to question everything (including me) and don`t care if you think it sounds stupid.
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    LilyLily Female 18-29
    90 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 7:51 am
    Qystein

    We`ve always done Yule or Jul in my family. Well, in living memory anyway, my great grandma is nearly 100 and it`s always been Jul/Yule as long as she can remember. Her mother and grandmother did/celebrated the same, or so she tells me anyway. We exchange gifts, and eat and drink waaaaay too much. It`s always a good time, and tends to go on for a few weeks!
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    Qystein Male 18-29
    159 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 7:53 am
    @LilyLily That is just fantastic! :D
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    LilyLily Female 18-29
    90 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 7:58 am
    Pandabee You MIL (I`m going on an assumption here) was fortunate to be bought up in a freethinking country? Education is not just schools, it`s the environment we are immersed in throughout our lives. She may not have a formal education, but no doubt she has picked up knowledge that varies and conflicts (which is a good thing, it makes us think!) throughout her life.

    But, in a very linear, very culturally and religiously bound minded country, those opportunities for learning are scarce, and someone like her, without access to formal schooling an books and the like, would be terribly badly off.

    So, tell her from me, while she may not have benefited directly from an education herself, she has benefited indirectly, but immensely, because everyone around her has one! the best example is doctors! While SHE may not have an education, their education benefits her.
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    LilyLily Female 18-29
    90 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Cont- Pandabee -

    And, your DD is very lucky you have that opinion! Good on you for giving her the tools to think and grow as a person! I really love to hear things like this!



    -----

    Judging by the walls of texts I`m writing I`m sure you all know how passionate I am about good education by now. that said, disregard the irony in my terrible spelling/grammar/etc, English is not my first language!
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    LilyLily Female 18-29
    90 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 8:06 am
    Qystein We are in Australia though, so the whole Winter aspect of it is lost. Either way, it`s a good time to gather everyone together!
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 8:20 am
    So my favorite group released a Christmas song (all the artists in the company they work for released songs on an album). The song was basically a "thank you santa" song, nothing religious in it. So I went to the comments of the mv on youtube and saw a muslim girl spamming the page with how bad the singers are for making a christmas song, how she`s mad at them, how they`re trying to convert her, and how her religion doesn`t let her listen to the song and she wants to hear the song so they`re being racist (her religion being stupid = artists being racist apparently). Even muslims commented to her telling her to just not listen to it if she didn`t like it, it was just a santa song and no one`s trying to convert her. Most of the singers in the song are christians (I think only 1 is an atheist) so obviously they`d sing a song about a holiday they actually celebrate.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    December 18, 2011 at 8:26 am
    Forgot to conclude what I just wrote. So basically, you`ll get crazies like this. But there were far more Muslim`s telling her to stop being an idiot than Muslim`s agreeing with her. On the other end of the spectrum, there were obnoxious comments from Christians saying "this should be a thank you Jesus song instead of santa" -_-;
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
    878 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 8:30 am
    The commies had one thing right - they banned all religion.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 8:47 am
    Davy: In before davymid distances himself from radical Atheists as "not being REAL Atheists", while (usually in the same post) declaring that this kid represents a very typical Christian view of the Christian population of the planet. You know, with their fag-hating, terrorist-bombing of abortion clinics, funeral protesting, stone-age ways. All the while knowing damn well better because he HAS visited Christian nations.

    In 3...2...1...
  97. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 8:55 am
    jtrebowski: How is this any different than what the conservative Republicans say about Muslims?

    You are applying what radical fundementalists do "over there" to mainstream Christians over here. That doesn`t work.

    You applied what conservative Republicans (arguably mostly Christian) do here to what mainstream Muslims do over there.

    Maybe you should take your own advice in vice versa sometimes, before you come after me.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 9:08 am
    This guy is obviously at the extreme end. I know plenty of Mulsims who wish people a merry Christmas. I know plenty of non-Muslims who say Eid Mubarak to Muslims during Eid. I know Christians and Muslims who wish Jews Happy Hanukkah. I wish people merry Christmas even though I`m an atheist.
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    azhellboy82 Male 30-39
    8 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 9:19 am
    i hope a x-mas tree falls on him and he`s slowly crushed while staring a budwiser ordiment
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
    3696 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 10:09 am
    All I`m going to say is that when someone comes through my till and wishes me a Merry Christmas, or a Happy Hanukkah I take it for exactly what it means.

    I wish you well over the next few weeks. It`s almost just like saying Bonjour instead of Hellom it still means the same thing it`s just a different language instead of a different religion. I`m not a christian, do I get offended when someone says God Bless you? No, because they`re simply wishing me well, and even if I don`t believe, I appreciate the sentiment. People need to calm their tits!
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    akabane Male 18-29
    1093 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 11:07 am
    i dont know why people talking about honor killings in islam. it is in the quran that it is forbidden, look up chapter 81 verse 8 to 9 "and when the girl-child buried alive shall be asked: `for what offense was she killed?`" The arabs had this honor killings during the pre islamic period, and this verse came saying to stop. now it is back, for some bizarre reason, and it is completely wrong. we call this ignorance, or "jahl" in arabic.
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    akabane Male 18-29
    1093 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 11:12 am
    One more thing, the first 2 commandments of the ten commandments for jews and christians is that "God is One," and "Do not make an image or likeness of what is in heavens above." There is a reason why they are first, and "though shalt not murder" is sixth. In these religions, they have a higher priority than others. In islam, disobeying your parents is worst than adultery and murder. Is that wrong too?
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
    2674 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 11:35 am
    "Is that wrong too?"
    Yep o_o
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    pigsnout5 Female 18-29
    546 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 11:36 am
    i like. its HAPPY F*CKING HOLIDAYS, dammit!
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    Shaunoli Male 30-39
    64 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 11:40 am
    I get what this guy is saying. Saying Merry Christmas is acknowledging that God was born on this date in history, through Jesus Christ. and by saying merry Christmas you are agreeing with this FACT that Jesus was God. Which these people do not believe.

    It would be like saying Joe Smoo is God.We celebrate this day as his birth. If you refuse to acknowledge it, or return my token greeting about this being the day we celebrate as his birth, then your an idiot.
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    azhellboy82 Male 30-39
    8 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    too bad this is america bitches so suck a fat yule log!!! Merry Christmas to you all!!! you have the right to be offended and i have a right to offend you!! this video would have been a lot better if someone but 223. thru his skull mid sentence
  107. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    akabane: In these religions, they have a higher priority than others.

    Not in Christianity, Sin is sin, one is not worse than another or better, that`s a recent secularist revision. In the law we do separate crimes as to the `severity` of the offense (misdemeanors, felonies, and capital crimes), such is not the case in the bible.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
  109. Profile photo of akabane
    akabane Male 18-29
    1093 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    @crakrjak, so if sin is sin, then stealing is equivalent to killing which is equivalent to fornication which is equivalent to cheating on a test and so on. So there is no such thing as minor and major sins? Does that mean if someone wrongs, then the punishment is always death? Thats much more extreme than what this guy is saying dont you think?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    Oh wait I mean Merry f**king Christmas!!!!!
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    ReBoot Male 18-29
    233 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    the wadge of sin is death
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    schecter4 Male 18-29
    31 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 6:04 pm
    Actually.. he does take it to an extreme but look at it from his point of view. It`s offensive to him for a muslim to say it to a christian because he feels it is condoning the propagation of a false religion. That is his right. I think it might be an extreme take on things, but more power to him. He feels it`s a sin.

    Follow question though: How many people in here feel that saying praise allah as a nonbeliever of islam is inherently wrong and cheapens the true meaning for those who actually believe it?
    Same concept in the long run. He just takes it to an extreme.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 6:28 pm
    such is not the case in the bible.
    One can find open admissions of insanity anywhere! Anywhere on the internet that is.

    If I committed a little naughty mass murder, I`m sure I`d be forgiven lickedy split if I asked for it. What`s the penance for that? 10 minutes of kneeling? Seems an easy way to justify things...
  114. Profile photo of ReBoot
    ReBoot Male 18-29
    233 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 7:28 pm
    LazyMe484 the bible condones mass murder
    that`s basically all of the old testament lol
    the promised land was not empty when the Isrealites got there
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    December 18, 2011 at 10:42 pm


    He done goofed.
  116. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 12:20 am
    akabane: Your mixing human law and God`s view of sin, the two are separate things. Only God can judge our souls, Humans do commit crimes and, if caught, can be convicted. Humans can get it wrong, God won`t.

    So no, you`re trying to equate sin with crime, which in fact many sins are not `crimes` in the eyes of the law. Humans can judge your earthly body and you may be innocent or you might get away with a sinful crime here on earth, but God will judge your sin later.

    Thankfully God loved us so much that he offered his son, Jesus Christ, as payment for all of mankind`s debt of sins, so that we wouldn`t have to face his eternal punishment.
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    LuckyDave Male 18-29
    675 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 12:27 am
    I couldn`t even watch the whole thing; once he got to the "Congratulations on your false religion" part, I had to stop. Islam is as false as it gets. Not to mention Christmas was a pagan holiday at first, but was adapted to -represent- the birth of Jesus Christ, not God. This is one of those self important pricks in Islam that believes that everyone needs to be a Muslim, or wage holy war on them until they are, or are all killed. Society as a whole would be far better off without the Middle East. With as much trouble as the place causes, its oil and its people becoming a void of land or life would be beneficial to humanity. These people were pretty slick, getting weapons to fight freedom wars, and later turn said weapons on everyone. We never should have given them the weapons, as they`ve proven themselves too violent and unstable to be responsible with them.
  118. Profile photo of akabane
    akabane Male 18-29
    1093 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 2:50 am
    @crakrjak

    so if im mixing God`s law and human law together, then you are telling me that there is no punishment for those who sin on earth. for example, in the OT, the punishment for adultry was stoning, and we know the story of Jesus (pbuh) and the prostitute where he said "whomever is sinless, cast the first stone." but how about someone who murders, steals, and/or blaspheme? There is no punishment for them on Earth?
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    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 7:21 am
    Suck thousands of dicks and this is what you get.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 10:15 am
    "Thankfully God loved us so much that he offered his son, Jesus Christ, as payment for all of mankind`s debt of sins, so that we wouldn`t have to face his eternal punishment."

    Ok I gotta say, you stupid f.uck. Do you REALLY believe that. So your god, made his rules, then sacrificed his son, to save his creation, that was breaking his rules, from his wrath?

    How the hell does that make sense? Where in any kind of logical meaning does that even work?!? Thats like killing your own child and accepting that as payment so that you dont beat the dog that shhits on the floor.

    If that is truely what you believe, then your god is evil. That is not love. If he loved his creation, he would sacrifice himself, but NOOOOOO!!!!!

    Seriously dude, do you even listen to this poot that you say?
  121. Profile photo of Steelgrid
    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 10:19 am
    ....and really, what is god`s "eternal punishment?"

    Dont you mean that god makes like any other human and passes the responsibility to someone else? What is he punishing for? Rules that man made up? Does satan punish or does god? Do you even know? If Jesus saves us from sin, then why is there a hell? Do you even know? What is there some sins that Jesus` body wasnt good enough to cover?

    Seriously dude, listen to your own oral-defecation and understand it. Under your own words, God is evil, he deal out the punishment.
  122. Profile photo of Steelgrid
    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 10:21 am
    Really your "god" has broken all of his rules. Cmon he murder nearly the entire population of humans. He raped so he could have a son. He worshiped his own son as a savior (ie:worshiping a false god).

    I mean really, you put your faith into something who`s intentions are no better than the presidents who start wars....
  123. Profile photo of Steelgrid
    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 10:24 am
    "Not in Christianity, Sin is sin, one is not worse than another or better, that`s a recent secularist revision. In the law we do separate crimes as to the `severity` of the offense (misdemeanors, felonies, and capital crimes), such is not the case in the bible.
    Not in Christianity, Sin is sin, one is not worse than another or better, that`s a recent secularist revision. In the law we do separate crimes as to the `severity` of the offense (misdemeanors, felonies, and capital crimes), such is not the case in the bible.
    "

    Really? Then why do we need a hell? Why do you put the fear of Satan into people if by your argument, he doesnt exist? If jesus saved from sin, then that means ALL sin, so no one goes to hell.....

    Seriously Crackr, every time you try to defend yourself, you show the truly uneducated side of Jesus religions.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
    2927 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    lets see someone putting a gun to my head and blowing my brains out or someone wishing me merry Christmas. ill take the Christmas greeting. even if i was Buddhist or Jewish or even Hindu.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
    2927 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    as the great foamy would say "tis the season to shut the f*ck up! and stop being such whiney lil bitch!"
  126. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    December 19, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    Steelgrid: You don`t understand and don`t want to, so I`m not going to waste my time explaining it yet again.

    Especially to a troll, such as yourself, that can`t type a paragraph without using profane insults and vapid disrespect.
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    VascoV Male 30-39
    56 posts
    December 20, 2011 at 5:58 am
    Scholar? that`s a pretty big word for a superstition organizer
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    December 20, 2011 at 10:53 pm
    If this guy really thinks saying "Merry Christmas" is worse than killing someone, well, all I have to say is, "Merry Christmas, @$$hole!"

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