Lowe`s Pulls Ads From Show About Muslim Americans

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in

The Florida Family Assoc. pushed for the ad"s to be yanked. Is Lowe"s being bigoted or just making a business decision?
There are 87 comments:
Male 5,194
Boo-hoo. Screw `em. I wouldn`t watch a show about Christian families and their pet mythology, or Jews - so what makes the Muslims special?
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Male 2,700
Ungh, Marilyn Manson comes to mind when I realized that during this post that "I hate the haters, Id rape the rapers"
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Male 2,700
"It clearly says to migrate, make babies and outnumber the infedel!"

I had to make a second look at this one. its not just happenening in Europe, its everwhere. Its people creating people. Man thats TERRIBLE.

You see, you take religion out of it, and all you got is racism. This is another point I am trying to make. Religion is the source of hate. Human group bias is a biproduct (read:waste) of religion. Not all religion, just religions that try to hold some locus of control. Any control.

This is why I also say humans have it wrong. They are worshiping the wrong dieties. You see, Satan does nothing, he sits back with his popcorn and watches all the god fighting it out creating misery for all believers. Then offers all non believers a warm place full of sin AND WITHOUT WAR!!!!
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Male 2,700
Let me clarify something. I am not defending Muslims in any way. When I see that religion I see a religion started by a rapist and pedophile. But again for the sake of argument if one group is going to attack another with baseless nonesense, im there to comment on that too.
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Male 2,700
"But face facts: the Prophet Himself told his followers to attack with force ANY who oppose them. If that didn`t work? It clearly says to migrate, make babies and outnumber the infedel! It`s happening in Europe as we speak!
Allah will not be happy until the entire Earth is under Muslim rule. It`s a fact!"

....and Catholicism and Christianity didnt have the same upbringing? If we are going to argue the "Peace and love" that Jesus religions bring knowing their background, should we not also concentrate on the "peace and love" that the muslims are trying?

Now mind you I dont believe either, just putting that out there for the sake of argument.
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Male 2,700
Oh and again using your lines and logic......There are millions of muslims THAT WERE BORN HERE!!!

Guess what, alot of them were born before you were.

So if being born here makes you American, then as I was pointing out before, you need to accept muslims as American.

Or do you not believe your own words?
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Male 40,751
@Steelgrid: lolz, you ARE wound up bro! Even I don`t get THAT worked up over internet ramblings...

But face facts: the Prophet Himself told his followers to attack with force ANY who oppose them. If that didn`t work? It clearly says to migrate, make babies and outnumber the infedel! It`s happening in Europe as we speak!
Allah will not be happy until the entire Earth is under Muslim rule. It`s a fact!
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Male 2,700
"but I was born here, therefore I am an AMERICAN.
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OK bigot, using that exact logic, do you agree with handing out greencards to any Mexican that sneaks over here to have her baby?

If you do not agree, then your whole argument of "I was born here, I am American" is invalid.

Being born here does not make you an American. Being born here gives you a paper that says you are an American citizen.

If nothing else, bigotry is completely unAmerican.

Oh and, dont you dare talk about openmindedness when you are talking about a religious invasion.
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Male 2,700
"I am 100% supportive of any immigrant that wants to come here and make a life for themselves, provided they, 1)learn our language, follow our traditions and customs and adapt to OUR culture. This "

You see...all you have done is highlight how truley ignorant you are. The thing about this country that separates us from the rest of the world is that we do not have one culture. You are blind if you believe that. America is not the melting pot that the status quo makes you believe. We are more like a salad, we are all mixed together, but you still got lettuce, you still got carrots and cucumbers, and each of these has their own color, taste, and texture.

English might be the majority language, but it is not our language. Being a bigot may be accepted in your little backwoods area of this country, but your "culture" does not speak for the rest of us.
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Male 2,700
"Wow, so ALL Jesus based religions are bad...

Doesnt history prove that?

But this isnt about Jesus, its about you, thinking we as a country, is being invaded, BY PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE LIVED IN PEACE WITH FOR QUITE A LONG TIME!!!

We are not at war with Muslims. That is the most ignorant way to view this war. We are at war with a military, a group, a country, just because its full of muslims doesnt mean we are at war with them.

What you do not seem to realize is that not every single member we are fighting is muslim. That may be a majority, maybe even %99.99999 of the majority.

Whats next, another group attacks us some years later.....OH GET THE PEOPLE WITH BLUE EYES OUT!!! RAAAAARGGG!!!!!

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Male 363
Well, like all arguments, no one is willing to see the other persons perspective. I am hoping you are open minded enough to look into what Islam is all about before the America that you knew and know today is not a distant memory for your children and grandchildren....Peace..
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Male 363

I am 100% supportive of any immigrant that wants to come here and make a life for themselves, provided they, 1)learn our language, follow our traditions and customs and adapt to OUR culture. This is what ANY OTHER country in the world would expect and I think we should expect that as well. An No, I am NOT an immigrant, My mother is, and some unknown great great great grandfather probably was, but I was born here, therefore I am an AMERICAN.
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Male 2,700
"I for one want to protect and preserve the AMERICAN way of life and the Nation of Islam wants to destroy it."

The very first thing this country was founded on, the very REASON for invading this land was to avoid religious persecution. So basing your argument on something you are doing makes you no different than what you are arguing against.

I didnt see anyone talking about an "Invasion" when Ali was popular. You are a fair weather American which is the worst type of American to be. Take this country as it was founded or simply you can GTFO. This wasnt our country to begin with.
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Male 363
Steelgrid

So yeah hypocrite, we are being invaded, by the people like you who spread hate in the guise of peace, kinda like Jesus based religions.

Wow, so ALL Jesus based religions are bad...and you dare call me a hate monger? 1st of all, I am NOT religious in the slightest. I do not support, not do I reject ANYONE for their religion. I do however reject ANYONE who wants to force their beliefs on me.

you sir are the epitome of why American`s and Muslims are in this war in the first place. Your bigotted, racist, and incredibly slandorous have no educated quality what-so-ever.

I have researched and educated myself quite a bit on the Qoran and it`s teachings...have you? I doubt it because ANY American who has, knows that this is not a peaceful religion. Sharia Law is Violent, oppressive and anything but free. Maybe you should educate yourself before calling people names...

I am 100% supportive of any immigrant that wants to come here and make
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Male 363
I did not invade a damn thing, neither did my father grandfather and probably not his father...I cannot be blamed for something that happened over 200 years ago. View my statements as bigoted if you will.I for one want to protect and preserve the AMERICAN way of life and the Nation of Islam wants to destroy it...Maybe not this year, or 10 years from now but someday, in the not so distant future, America will fall to the Islamic movement by sheer numbers..If that is what you want, fine..I don`t want that. I want my son to grow up free, with his own mind and thoughts and NOT follow some religious doctrine that dictates his every whim...
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Male 2,700
Damnit i hate it when I get this wound up...........

Really gymcoach, why dont you take your logic and apply it to yourself. Unless you are fully recognized member of a north American Indian tribe, your voice, based on your logic, means nothing. Remember, you are an immigrant too....
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Male 2,700
I mean really, say Muslims didnt exist. Lets say the Church still has control of most of the world decisions...

Lets say we would still be in the dark ages....
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Male 2,700
"We are being invaded. This is DANGEROUS to the American way of life..anyone who believes otherwise should just convert to Islam now because that is exactly where you are headed... "

Gymcoach, you sir are the epitome of why American`s and Muslims are in this war in the first place. Your bigotted, racist, and incredibly slandorous have no educated quality what-so-ever.

You know when American`s said the same shhit that you just did? how about the Early Irish, Or Blacks, or gays... Hey its right after WE INVADED THIS COUNTRY....

So yeah hypocrite, we are being invaded, by the people like you who spread hate in the guise of peace, kinda like Jesus based religions.
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Male 2,700
"To be a Christian you MUST do the things mentioned in those verses: honor God with everything, love others are yourself, say that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead, you are a Christian. "

So believe in my heart that your god practices necromancy and JC is a zombie......

Man I tell you what, im not sure I remember Satan doing something so sacrilegious as witchcraft and raising the dead. Sounds selfish to me really.

"Sacrifice yourself to save my creation from my wrath over rules that I made up and I break everyday. Then I will allow you to suffer during your death, bring you back to life to screw a whore, and then experience death again..."

Yup, you keep on believing that crap...
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Female 4,039
GAH. Why is EVERYthing such a big deal. So ya` don`t like it, don`t go to Lowe`s - it`s not like air and you have no choice but to consume it. It`s just some stupid show. Personally, I have boycotted Skunk Whisperer, becuase I find it ridiculous.
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Male 3,209
@jtrebowski- As a business owner myself, there are plenty of folks and companies that I won`t do business with for various reasons. Some of them seemingly conservative, some of them seemingly liberal. I don`t think of myself as either, and I don`t give a drat if someone thinks I`m furthering a particular `agenda`.
For intance; On the one hand, I`m for same sex marriage and full benefit rights for ALL married people. On the other hand, I feel that if you entered America illegally, you are a criminal and NOT an `undocumented worker`- and therefore have no rights, and should be summarily deported. And frankly, I`m not too particular about WHERE you`re deported to, say China, Afghanistan or anywhere that is cheap to transport criminals that would also make it difficult for them to repeat their trespass here.
On the gripping hand, I think that breeding should be restricted to folks who pass GAMA, EI(with a focus on FFM), and genetic tests- While I think that our leaders(And their sp
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Male 40,751
Apparently: There`s More To It Than Just Lowes
64 other companies pulled their ads too? And the reasons given here are plausable... but I still think ad pulling isn`t the best idea.
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Male 14,331
WOOOOHOOOOO! Leave the apron on it`ll be hot!! :-p
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Female 1,380
@mcgovern that`s not really what I was refering to....but I guess that works....it`s what all the other customers do...you wouldn`t believe the comments you get from customers being a female working at a place like that lol
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Male 5,811
[quote]No need to worry, we have Jack Ryan.[/quote]

Yeah but your new Jack Ryan is Ben Affleck, so, yeah. XD

The whole thing is quite ridiculous though. First, it`s not like it`s saying muslims are better than christians, or anything offensive whatsoever really. So why get your panties in a twist about it fundamentalist americans? Yeesh it`s like any view that contrasts from the christian ideology is inherently evil and out to corrupt honest, never-bad christian folk. I think I watched one or two of these episodes and although I found it boring and ultimately uninformative I wouldn`t go so far as to hate on it for existing.
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Male 14,331
vv This is just a Canadian being bigoted towards Americans.
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Male 2,229
zzzz, American up in arms over Americans, zzzzzz

Wake me up when they go after their Republican traitor and their fascist corporation support system. Then that`ll be something...

This is just Americans being bigoted towards other Americans.
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Male 14,331
I`m going to Home Depot!!! JUGGALETTE`s jugs are going to cater to my needs!!!
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Male 2,033
This is what Lowe`s gets for being stupid enough to support anything to do with religion. Damned if you do and damned if you don`t, you are better of just keeping the drat out of it.
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Male 3,369
@5cats: I agree! :)
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Male 3,369
tommy2x4: Adding on to the double-wide?
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Male 10,855
@5Cats

For once I agree with your sentiment completely
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Male 3,369
@gymcoach29: They can`t follow American laws? Uh...there are millions of Muslims here...don`t you think a lot of them would be in jail now? wow.
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Male 3,477
Lowes is now my only store for building materials.
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Male 363
Islam is NOT just a religion. It is a culture, a lifestyle...a way to define your every existence. I am not saying all Muslims are bad...I am saying, it is impossible to be a good Muslim and an American at the same time. Why? Because the Koran is quite explicit in it`s teachings and you cannot follow the teachings of the Koran AND follow American laws, and traditions at the same time. We are being invaded. This is DANGEROUS to the American way of life..anyone who believes otherwise should just convert to Islam now because that is exactly where you are headed...
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Male 40,751
No worries @Smagboy1, I got yer back!
@jtrebowski: Fair enough, you get bonus points for honesty too!

It seems like Lowes could have continued to advertise on this show and no one would have noticed! It`s really too bad that they let those bullies tell them what to do, they should have told them to drat-off.
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Male 4,431
snack1928, that`s an awfully convenient reading of not only the Bible, but the Koran. I didn`t say anyone wasn`t a Christian. I said that by the effed up logic that you have to follow every word in a holy book, you`re not a Christian. You found a couple of verses to opt out of almost an entire tome of rules (just read Psalms if you want to find a few ignored rules in the NT), yet you act like "true" Muslims have to follow every letter of the Koran?! You act as if they don`t have a convenient Matt. 22:34-40 opt out? That`s an idiot position based on pure ignorance and bigotry and it only takes the slightest bit of reading or discussion with a devout Muslim to figure that out. I`m not ignorant of Christianity. I`ve been steeped in it! My point is that I`m also not ignorant of Islam. I don`t hold Muslims to the impossible standards that Christians don`t even hold themselves to. That`s just basic logic, and if you can`t follow it, don`t go claiming I`m the ignorant one.
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Male 14
well i think its a bullpoo move by lowes. i bet the florida family assoc. is mostly "christian" and think that all muslims are bad, but i got news for them.
not all muslims are bad people and at the same time not all "christians" are good people. I know what could help get the drat over yourselves hmmmmmm maybe "god" should kill us all. would that be the perfect ending to stupidity or what?
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Male 4,902
@jamie76 "bigotry is a clear and present danger to American civil liberties".

No need to worry, we have Jack Ryan.
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Male 734
Lowes will now get my business 100%
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Male 2,344
bigotry is a clear and present danger to American civil liberties.
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Male 1,364
muslims = demands
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Female 109
white people. smh :(
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Male 35
@smagboy1: you showed your ignorance of the Christian religion when you asked dude21862004 if he followed every rule in the Bible an if he followed the Ten Commandments. And since you know everything about him, knew he didn`t. Thus he isn`t a Christian. That is incorrect. Jesus was asked a similar question by the Pharisees. Read Matt. 22:34-40. It says to do two things: honor God with everything you do and love others as yourself. And to be a Christian read Romans 10:9. Those are the things to be a Christian. To be a Muslim you MUST follow the Shari Law. To be a Christian you MUST do the things mentioned in those verses: honor God with everything, love others are yourself, say that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead, you are a Christian.
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Female 1,380
lowe`s is overrated anyways there are other home improvement retailers that can cater to your needs.....
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Male 987
@Gerry1of1:
You never heard of a lesbian uprising or a dyke terrorist.

Or, perhaps, the militant vegetarians?

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Male 987
I know that, for a long time, people have said they would boycott businesses that supported certain TV programs, but this is the first time I have heard of someone boycotting a business because they chose NOT TO advertise on a particular show.

He insists that Lowe`s support his agenda or he will sue them?
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Male 15,832
"You never heard of a lesbian uprising or a dyke terrorist."

I dunno, Gerry. Some of them look pretty scary to me.

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Male 15,832
Why does there have to be a Muslim show in the first place? Who would ever watch it?

Just for the record, I don`t watch Christian shows, either. I have my own ideas on how the Universe works, thank you very much.
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Male 17,511
Looking at the ratings the show was getting, Nov. 20 & Nov. 27, it was right at the bottom of the pile with a dismal 0.5, Re-runs of NCIS did better.

There was no rating at all for it on Dec. 4, Perhaps the show has been canceled, not sure.
Either way, it doesn`t seem to be a big loss for Lowes as far as viewership is concerned.

In case anyone doubts my ratings info. Link
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Male 16
Who the hell watches that crap friggin show anyway?
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Female 1,380
This is going to be good publicity!
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Male 4,431
Viking, how is free speech being in any way limited in this story? You`ve got one group that was allowed to demonstrate their right to free speech and they got Lowe`s to pull advertising from a show. That act pissed off a lot of other people who then demonstrated *their* right to free speech by calling Lowe`s a bunch of xenophobic asshats. Seems we`re all getting to say what we want here. So what`s the issue about free speech?
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Male 1,449
So much for freedom of speach.....
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Male 39,911

Isn`t it obvious?
All this argueing between who`s peacefull..christians or palastinians or muslims.

Obviously lesbians are God`s Chosen People.
You never heard of a lesbian uprising or a dyke terrorist.
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Male 4,431
Thank you for further demonstrating my point to AWESOMEBOT, 5Cats. :-) I didn`t expect backup from you, and I appreciate it. :-)
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Male 7,378
They are free to do as they please, however by choosing sides Lowes is saying they agree with the kooky religious, xenophobes and are fearful of our fellow Americans. Their actions divide us and they need to be prepared for the backlash. You might call it "political correctness". I call it un-American.
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Male 3,369
@Captkangaroo: Not based on religion. Careful...you are perpetuating a stereotype of conservatives. Wouldn`t want to do that, would you?
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Female 1,380
yes yes yes....let`s ALL BOYCOTT LOWES! more savings more doing....that`s the power of the Home Depot....home depot doesn`t discriminate <3
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Male 3,209
I always thought the `American Agenda`, as applied to businesses, was the freedom to do- or not to do- business with whomever they please.
Drat the PC police idiots.
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Male 7,378
It`s a show I`m sure I`d never watch but it makes no difference. In order to be a good American I must boycott Lowes until they reverse themselves or publiclly apologize for bowing to unAmerican asshats.
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Male 3,369
Oh, and @drworm2002: While I do firmly stand by my Liberal beliefs, and the point I was trying to make was genuine, I`m afraid that 5cats is corect in stating I was taking cheap shots. I don`t deny it, but I accomplish my goal. :)
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Male 3,369
@5cats: I can see why, but you`re wrong. I will admit to leading people to that conclusion by omitting quantifiers in my opinions about con repubs, but I do so because I see so much of the same from the other side. It doesn`t make me any better, but at least you saw the point I was trying to make, and I appreciate that. As far as thinking that those stereotypes are true...well, stereotypes exist for a reason, whether it be applied to Liberals, Gays, Hispanics, Rednecks, rich, poor, Republican, Democrat, etc, but I think we`d be able to embrace those stereotypes more readily (and have to be less PC) if we as a society learned not to label entire groups as did the Florida Family Assoc.
oh..and btw...my Dad is a Conservative, and he`s one of the best, brightest, most intelligent, and compassionate person you`d ever meet.
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Male 571
Wow...pretty weak, Lowe`s.

Interesting how religions other than Christianity and Catholicism have somehow become "un-American." All these so-called "patriots" (read: dumb rednecks) seem to have forgotten that this country was founded on the idea of religious freedom.
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Male 40,751
Nice Passage there @SmagBoy1! Right after it is Matthew 5.21-24!

And even better: Matthew 5.28: "But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"

Daaaayyyy-UM!

I`ve had adultery with Brittney Hopper! (Won`t she be surprised!)
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Male 40,751
[quote]a show about Conservative Republicans not showing racism or bullying of gays...etc etc.[/quote]
@drworm2002: What he DID was take a cheap shot. He IMPLIES here that ANY show about "Conservative Republicans" MUST include those things because they`re true about ALL of "them". Including, I suppose, the Gay Repubs, Coloured Repubs & etc.
"See what I did there?" I do indeed: you missed the correct answer: That I know what he did and YOU do not...

[quote]I simply applied the same logic that the Florida Family Association is using by using stereotypes.[/quote]
Possibly, but I firmly believe that YOU think those stereotypes (about Repoubs) are true... thus defeating your own "logic".
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Male 106
I am now a huge supporter of Lowes. You won a life long shopper.
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Male 4,431
And AWESOMEBOT, I`ll read wikipedia all you want if you`ll explain to me these four short verses: Matthew 5:17-20. Or not. Your choice. ;-)
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Male 3,369
5cats:"Yes @jtrebowski: you made some valid points, then tried to "score" with bigoted, hate-driven lies. I think everyone sees that."

I simply applied the same logic that the Florida Family Association is using by using stereotypes.
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Male 4,431
AWESOMEBOT, I`m not sure how my "smarts" are of any consequence here, but, hey, if you have anything constructive or counter to say about what I`ve posted, by all means, go right ahead! I reckon I can take it.
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Female 1,386
I have a lot of opinion on this topic. And sadly, its not going to change the mind of one single religious person and how they feel about those other religious people...and how I feel about both these groups. So whatever I suppose. I wasn`t going to watch this show before all the controversy since I HATE reality show fluff with a passion... not going to change now. *shrug*
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Male 67
@SmagBoy1 I don`t think you are very smart. I also think that you may benefit from a few hours on Wikipedia.

@dude21862004 I think you are spot on. Congratulations on having knowledge of a subject before posting about it.
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Male 662
@5Cats No, what he said was saying we don`t believe in the extremes. What you did there was misunderstand what he said. See what I did there? Instead of just thinking you was an idiot for your misunderstanding, I figured you either misread or didn`t get what he was saying
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Male 40,751
"See what I did there?"
Yes @jtrebowski: you made some valid points, then tried to "score" with bigoted, hate-driven lies. I think everyone sees that.

Funny how they call for a boycott, to protest against a boycott...

This show is just a Cheap Copy Of This Fine Show which I enjoyed watching for 3 years, then got tired of it.
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Male 4,431
As for Lowe`s they made a stupid business decision based on the complaints of a handful of zealots. And they`re going to pay for it big time, by now pissing off a much larger group of just regular joe moderates.
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Male 4,431
dude21862004, do you follow every rule in the Bible? Do you follow every piece of guidance in it? Do you even follow the Ten Commandments? Nope, you don`t. Ergo, by your brilliant reasoning, you`re not a real Christian*, because, if you did follow those rules, not only would you not be peaceful, but you`d be in jail for everything from murder to abuse to theft.

*And, if you`re not a Christian, or don`t claim to be one, just use the logic toward any Joe Christian walking down the street. Point being, Sharia Law is no more or less followed in mainstream Islam than Old Testament rules are followed in mainstream Christianity.
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Male 768
Sharia Law is dangerous and aggressive. It is literally a law that`s intention is to destroy not only other religions, but other cultures as well. They can say they are peaceful Muslims all they want, but if they don`t follow Sharia Law they aren`t Muslims, and if they do they aren`t peaceful.
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Male 2,737
I am totally going to buy whatever I need from Lowes now.And I`m gonna get my family and all my friends and strangers to do the same.

Nah, Homedepot is cheaper. I`ll go there instead.
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Male 39,911

"Advertise with them and we will boycott you"

"Don`t advertise with them and we will boycott you"

If you damned if you do and damned if you don`t then do whatever the frack makes you happy I guess and to hell with everyone else.

Advertise on the JEWISH CHANNEL!
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Male 35
who gives a crap? let the company do what it wants, and if you don`t like what they do, find another company. why do we have to get all political on issues like this?
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Male 2,700
Bigoted. this is what happens when religion sticks its dark nose where it doesnt contribute tax dollars.

This store will no longer receive a single cent from me or my immediate family. What few purchases were planned have been made elsewhere.
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Male 1,793
bigoted... if they let that one bigoted group decied for them then let the boycott begin....
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Male 3,369
It`s a business decision, but a piss-poor one that will come back and bite them in the ass. Real Americans know that the overwhelming majority of Muslims here in the states are just regular peaceful folks. To complain that the show doesn`t show the "bad" Muslims is like being pissed at a show about Mormons not showing Polygamy, or a show about Conservative Republicans not showing racism or bullying of gays...etc etc.
See what I did there?
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Male 14,331
Here`s the problem the show is boooooring! Somehow the duggars do well though.
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Male 341
Home depot doesnt hate.
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Male 1,284
its gonna get ugly in this thread
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Female 8,043
Link: Lowe`s Pulls Ads From Show About Muslim Americans [Rate Link] - The Florida Family Assoc. pushed for the ad`s to be yanked. Is Lowe`s being bigoted or just making a business decision?
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